If beefy was meant to protect Sasaki and didn't, then I guess we have no choice really:
Vote: Beefy
however, why did we use Sasaki as bait?
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If beefy was meant to protect Sasaki and didn't, then I guess we have no choice really:
Vote: Beefy
however, why did we use Sasaki as bait?
Looks like the write-up was edited as well. Hence the confusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by shlin28
I am sure it said:
“Comrades, it appears that Azathoth was a counter-revolutionary, there are still more among us, as both Winston Hughes and Sasaki Kojiro were murdered in their sleep last night”
and it was changed to:
“Comrades, it appears that even if Azathoth was a counter-revolutionary, that there are still more among us, as both Winston Hughes and Sasaki Kojiro were murdered in their sleep last night”
The vandals struck again? GH must be behind this! :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Late by 1 hour..
Came back drunk yesterday :wall:
Lynch me.
I am not privy to the decision making behind it, but I would assume it was because Sasaki was one of the leading defenders of beefy last day phase.Quote:
Originally Posted by taka
Just because beefy missed his defence doesn't mean you should jump on and lynch him. For that reason, I should have been lynched the first day (I was inactive and didn't follow my order).
You all claim you want equality, but you're too eager to welcome a brutal mob rule into this revolution! Comrades, this makes us no better than the capitalist pigs; we're trampling over each other in a bid to remain alive!
Vote: No lynch
I'm pretty sure it had not been changed (in this regard at the very least). I first read the write up about 10 minutes after it was posted, and saw read the current version, minus the bit about the KMT recruiting a player. After I took a shower and came back to post, the write-up remain the same (except now it has the KMT bit).Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Vote: Beefy
I could've sent in my orders yesterday night...
I'm not happy with my self that I didn't.. And for that a player died..
Vote: Beefy
Vote: Beefy
The self vote says all.
Vote: Comrade Beefy, unless we hear something that makes a better choice. Beefy, even if you are truthful, drunken dereliction of duty is no way to serve the revolution.
Lazyness and drinking are against the revolutionary masses! It is the peasants who work hard to toil the fields and do not have the luxury to dissipate in wine or other assorted pleasures. If the example does not come from above, how can we exhort the people to sacrifice themselves for the revolution? For this breach of strictness you are condemned to death.
Vote: Beefy
I think no lynch and abstain votes aren't allowed, or was that just Subo being facetious?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
vote: Beefy.
Vote: Beefy
Why did we let Beefy live again?
Oh, right, because Sasaki asked us to.
And now Sasaki is dead because Beefy didn't protect him.
Brilliant.
There is simply no way we can afford giving the benefit of doubt in this situation. Beefy is now acting in the only way he possibly could in order to possibly prolong his survival, and we should not risk falling for it. If Beefy speaks true, it is a shame on his name alone. If he speaks false, it is an even greater shame. Either way we have no choice.
vote: Beefy
Maybe they wanted to test Sasaki's loyalty. I doubt a counter-revolutionary coward or a Japanese spy would be eager to risk himself that way. That is my guess, if Sasaki was aware of it. (Was he?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
I suppose Beefy has to die; there's no other way to be sure the mistake actually was one.
vote: Beefy
Hang Beefy, I'm saving something up that I think will surprise you lot. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Vote: beefy. Why? Because really, is there anyone else to vote for?
hmm, pm message tracking isn't working anymore is it?
Vote Beefy
It is clear that Beefy is not a loyal communist or he is a lying communist either way he must be destroyed for the good of the revolution.
Vote: Beefy
He seems ashamed, so I would be surprised if he was actually mafia. In any case, a suicidal townie is a bad townie.
At what hour was the pm to beefy telling him to protect me sent? Did he reply?
vote: abstain
While Beefy looks extremely guilty, I'm keeping my vote off of him in case someone PMs GH with a much better lynch.
Abstains are invalid, I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
Oh fine, not like this bandwagon's gonna get turned around anyway, even if there was a reason for it.
unvote, vote: Beefy
Vote: Beefy
While necessary, it seems almost a shame. This vote will never tell us anything later on. Oh well, omelettes and eggs....
At 10:52 my time (I think I setted my time zone on GMT+9), I recieved a pm from GH to protect Sasaki.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
However I left my grandmas house around 8:20 as I had a meeting of a uni event starting at 11 AM.
From 11AM till 7PM I was at Uni, doing the event. And from 7 till 11:20 I was drinking.
Came back home around 12ish, so I could've easily sent a pm to Subo, and until I had a shower I was planning to.
But I completely forgot.
As I am clearly going to be a towns distraction, lynch me now. Or i'll protect/ die tonight.
Again, my apologies for this complete failure.
I'm not even in this game.
Vote: Beefy
:laugh4:
I wouldn't be so glum. A couple votes this round have tweaked my gut, in a few rounds I can see some potential cases opening up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
vote: Beefy
Apart from the conversion thing, it wasn't :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
That is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
You have to manually check it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I feel like washing my hands of this vote - it borders on ridiculous.
Announcement: If I need volunteers for night activities, don't contact me - I'll contact you. This will allow you to keep your groups and form cliques, etc., but I do ask that you keep me updated on what's happening. Thanks.
Vote: Beefy
Well, it seems like there isn't much of a choice.
vote: Beefy
Evidently there is no other possible lynch than beefy, so I will:
Vote: Beefy
However, I am very curious with GH's intention to use Sasaki as the possible victim. Is this blatant retaliation for his, as he himself put it, "contribution to a player that for the moment, I could temporarily trust": AKA Azathoth :inquisitive:
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
well, let us see if we sucessfully lynch beefy, maybe we'll got some peaceful night after this... two murders and one attempted murders are just too much.
Beefy lynch is awful, as were the votes on him yesterday and the attempt to murder him last night. Anyone who seems gleeful today is mafia.
I'm not so sure. Although I disagree with the lynch, Beefy's ability is a bit tit for tat - it buys a power role another night at best, but doesn't prove anything other then the mafia taking the role claim seriously. Still, why try to kill Beefy so early? Wasting game assets early is extremely bad play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Bodyguard is a standard role. It's a weak version of the doctor. It's useful for getting the cop one more night. I think we've had at least one game here where that would have clinched it for the town.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
I've already given my thoughts on the Beefy situation, but I'll ask once again so that I know it's a bad idea: why all the Beefy hate, comrades?
Yes, true, although there is no reason the Doctor shouldn't already be protecting the role claim until the claimiant is properly investigated, which we have the capability of doing so in this game. I'm not arguing that Beefy was useless, rather just odd fluff - that didn't need to be squandered so early. Had Beefy been able to kill his attacker, then I'd be all pitchforks and torches on those who voted for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
No, it's not awful. Beefy made a claim yesterday to save his life. For better or for worse he offered to prove his claim; and for better or for worse our leadership took him up on the offer. He then failed to follow through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
It may have been a simple mistake. I'd go so far as to say it probably was a simple mistake, just on the odds alone. But I can't be sure. If Beefy is a reactionary or a Japanese imperialist, he could have had every reason in the world to buy himself just one more night. The KMT, for instance, recruited last night.
We've been promised no investigations in this game besides those that take several days to complete. If we don't lynch Beefy, then what? Risk yet another life tonight on the chance he follows through this time? Forget the whole idea and wait three days for investigation results to come back? Hope some killer takes him off our hands for us? We have to lynch him.
I felt you deserved something like that, given the *ahem* special quality of your epic EPYCs, and also because you appear to have been whacked early on quite a lot recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
EDIT: Phase ends in approximately 30 mins.
Are you referring to today's voters or yesterday's? I think yesterday's may deserve pitchforks regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Write-Up shall commence in one hour.
Man, I missed the voting phase again. Sorry about that, maybe it still counts. Vote: Beefy.
For worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
He had every reason to claim something other than suicidal bodyguard.Quote:
It may have been a simple mistake. I'd go so far as to say it probably was a simple mistake, just on the odds alone. But I can't be sure. If Beefy is a reactionary or a Japanese imperialist, he could have had every reason in the world to buy himself just one more night. The KMT, for instance, recruited last night.
Nope. Let him live. Have him protect people. Maybe he stops a mafia kill. Rethink it later when more of the setup is known.Quote:
We've been promised no investigations in this game besides those that take several days to complete. If we don't lynch Beefy, then what? Risk yet another life tonight on the chance he follows through this time? Forget the whole idea and wait three days for investigation results to come back? Hope some killer takes him off our hands for us? We have to lynch him.
I might have gone that way myself if it had been my decision to make, but it's too late now (speaking metaphorically, not about the day being over). He agreed to prove himself in this fashion; he didn't follow through.
As for claim -- meh. I claimed Bomb once, as mafia, and won. Not every mafia claim is well thought out, especially on day one; not every suicidal claim actually winds up in death; and not every suicidal player is bad for the team he's attached to. Unless you know what the KMT/Japanese roles and restrictions are, you don't know whether Beefy's move made sense or not
By dinner time, the Communists had has ascended to a reasonable height, and were starting to enter real mountainous territory. They set up camp on a hillside, from which they could see for a great distance back from whence they had came. They could all see Daozhen in the distance, with a silky black line rising from the houses that been burned down by johnhughthom.
It was obvious who the lynch candidate was. Beefy187 had played chicken with the leadership of PEXDET, and a man had died because of it. The one dissenting vote was lodged out of habit more than anything else, and Beefy187 completely accepted his fate.
As the sleeping areas were being established, GeneralHankerchief and the other officers gave long speeches about why Beefy187 should engage in serious self-criticism due to his betrayal of the party, Communism and the Chinese Nation. Hearing this long tirade of crimes, Beefy said nothing; although his expression couldn’t have been uglier if he’d been chewing a wasp.
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The Socialists gathered around the small hillock with their noodles to watch their Chairman draw the accusations to a close, and prepare for the execution of Beefy.
“…And thus, to summarise, your crimes are as follows. Failure to defend Communist, attacking Communist, failure to die defending Communist, speaking Japanese, conducting anti-people activities, spreading dissent and refusing to admit that you are a Rightist.” announced GeneralHankerchief
Beefy kept his head bowed and said nothing.
GeneralHankerchief turned to his Special Operative “Do you want to do the “honours”, Yaseikhaan?”
Yaseikhaan nodded, and drew his officer allocated Thompson Machine Gun out, and loaded it with a drum from inside his coat. He took aim at the silent Beefy, and fired off several rounds.
The Chairman sniffed and nodded again.
“That was for the best. But, fellow Communists, I urge you to be more careful tonight, as we still have no idea if any of our, erm, candidates are the Counter-Revolutionaries we claimed them to be. They may still walk, and kill, among us.”
This phase shall end in 23 hours, as 21:00 deadlines are a more Subotan-friendly time. I'll post the tally tomorrow.
Tally
Beefy187 - 25 - CDF, Cute Wolf, Romanic, Yaseikhaan, taka, Beefy187, ACIN, Pinman, Seamus, Jolt, Secura, Chaotix, Niklas, Renata, WEW, Blackadder, landlubber, AA, Psycho, miotas, YLC, John, autolycus, DIY, Joooray (I'll count Jooray as his vote made no difference to the outcome, and it serves more as a "I'm here" more than anything else)
Yaseikhaan - 1 - Shlin28
The Bad List - 6 - Thermal Mercury, AVSM, wishazu, splitpersonality, TheFlax, M3YUZ
The Bad List is a list of those who are consistently not voting in thread. Please change your behaviour, or face the consequences :sneaky:
Alive players: 36/40
ACIN
ArpeggiateTHIS
autolycus
AVSM
Beskar
Captain Blackadder
Chaotix
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
Death is yonder
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
landlubber
M3YUZ
Methos
miotas
Nictel
Niklas
Pinman
Psychonau
Renata
Romanic
Seamus Fermanagh
Secura
shlin28
Sigurd
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
taka
TheFlax
Thermal Mercury
wideyedwanderer
Wishazu
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Lynched players 1/40
Azathoth
Beefy187
Killed Players 2/40
Winston Hughes
Sasaki Kojiro
"Psst! Hey! Listen!“
"What? “ Beskar poked his head inside taka’s tent. He was clearly not amused.
“I need to use the toilet, really bad! I must have undercooked my noodles...” said taka. taka did a little jig to show just how desperate he was.
Beskar rolled his eyes. “Fine, I’ll guard you on your way there.”
taka gave a quiet cheer and scrambled out of the tent onto the side of the moonlit mountain.
Beskar peered into the gloom.
“Where is the designated Lavatory Pit? I don’t remember building one…”
“Look! There’s a sign there, it must be over here” said taka
They walked to a forested area of the outskirts of the camp, quite a bit further away than usual. The hole could be seen behind a tree, obstructed from the view of the tents. For privacy reasons, of course.
“At last!” cried taka, and he hurried over to the small hole to do whatever business you might do is such a designated Pit.
“Pssss….”
Beskar awkwardly turned to the side and focused his entire attention on a bush even deeper into the forest. Looking closer he realized that there was some kind of hair snagged on the bush. Thinking that it might be a delicious rabbit, Beskar eagerly approached.
“BOO!” roared the bush.
Beskar screamed.
“Agggh! What the-”
The bush rustled and revealed that there had been a man crouching behind it, and that the hair which had been snagged in the bush was his long and messy beard, which now had pieces of bush snagged in it.
“Why hello, Beskar” said the Hairy Man. “It is such a wonderful night to be taking care of…business, yes?”
The Hairy Man stood up and motioned towards taka, who was blissfully unaware of the Hairy Man’s business and happily going about his business.
“But what is my business, you must be asking? I’ll tell you what it is, Beskar. It is Chinese business. No, I’m not a Jap or a Kuomintang or anything silly like that, Beskar, so you can relax.”
Beskar didn’t relax.
“For you see, my business is a very special, niche business. My work helps everyone, regardless of class, dialect, whatever. But the funny thing is Beskar, hehe, is that the Chinese, hoohaha, don’t even know that I’m doing their business for them, hahaha! Isn’t that so funny Beskar? Isn’t it FUNNY?”
The Hairy Man was now bent over with laughter, with huge guffaws erupting from the bearded maelstrom that was his face. Beskar was now stricken with terror, and he ran backwards to where taka was still sitting on the Pit. taka had by now noticed the Hairy Man and looked concerned.
“Tsssssss….”
“How are you still doing that? Come on, we’ve got to get away from him now!”
“But I’ve finished. I’m not doing anything, Beskar…” taka said.
They both slowly looked inside the pit, where the hissing continued unabated and tiny sparks could be seen flitting around amongst the brown.
“taka, I think we need to-”
With a massive KA-BLOOEY, Beskar and taka were both instantly killed by the bomb which had been planted inside the pit dug by the Hairy Man. After the explosion’s echo finally dissipated and the remains of taka’s protection group ran over to see what remained of their charge, a booming laugh could be heard from within the forest.
***
“Good evening Chaotix.”
Chaotix woke up with a start to find a big, big man looming over his bedding, and staring him right in the eye.
“I’m here to make sure that you don’t do anything stupid during the night. You wouldn’t be planning on doing anything stupid, would you?”
Chaotix shook his head furiously.
“Good, I love understandings. They make everything so much easier. I trust you will also understand my colleague coming in here and rummaging around in your things and loads of books, yes?”
Chaotix nodded, again, furiously.
The intruder smiled and turned to the entry flap.
“Hey, you’re late.”
A second man entered and reached inside his long coat to take it off.
“I’m so sorry. Let me make it up to you”
Instantly, he pulled a pistol from inside his coat, and smashed into the side of the big man’s head. He went down with a sharp crack and a short croak. Chaotix pulled his bedding up around him fearfully.
The attacker smiled and stared down at Chaotix. He frowned slightly
“What was that you called me?”
“Huh? I don’t even know who you are so how-“ stammered Chaotix
The attacked put a finger to his lips “No, shh. You do know who I am. Because you lot called we something a few days ago. The “Wide Eyed Nippo”. That was it. The Wide Eyed Nippo. Hehe. How droll.”
Chaotix, not knowing what to do, just mumbled
“But”, continued the Japanese, “It’s not fair that I get all the compliments. And it would be rude of me to flatter someone with sweet-nothings that clearly aren’t true. So, I’m going to do you a favour, Chaotix. I’m going to make you Wide Eyed.”
The Japanese cocked his pistol and aimed it straight at Chaotix’s head
“I’m going to make you so Wide Eyed I’ll be able to fit my fist through your face!” snarled the Nippo, as Chaotix let out a terrified scream, moments before the Japanese Officer hollowed out Chaotix’s skull.
***
“Comrades, we were attacked again last night”
GeneralHankerchief stared out across the remaining Communists. They were starting to get few in number, and you could see their self awareness of this grim fact in their eyes.
“I know it’s hard, fellow Maoists, but we must struggle on. Only by continuing to fight can we beat the counter-revolutionaries. To disperse and give up allows them to pick us off, one by one. But together, we, the microcosm of the Chinese people, are strong enough united to fight off the Revisionists in grisly combat. And it is such unity that we must tighten!”
The Communists all nodded glumly, and set off, deeper into the mountains. The altitude was really starting to rise by this point, and snow could be seen further up the mountain trail.
Alive players: 33/40
ACIN
ArpeggiateTHIS
autolycus
AVSM
Captain Blackadder
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
Death is yonder
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
landlubber
M3YUZ
Methos
miotas
Nictel
Niklas
Pinman
Psychonau
Renata
Romanic
Seamus Fermanagh
Secura
shlin28
Sigurd
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
TheFlax
Thermal Mercury
wideyedwanderer
Wishazu
Yaseikhaan
YLC
Lynched players 2/40
Azathoth
Beefy187
Killed Players 5/40
Winston Hughes
Sasaki Kojiro
taka
Beskar
Chaotix
Kill Johnhughthom, he was the one with the fire bombs from the previous night.
big FOS at CDF, Double A and Psychonaut for failing in their protection orders.
Hmm... if we are a microcosm of society, then the unholy quartet who twist the words of our glorious elected leader must be representing the landlords!
DIE!!!
Vote: autolycus
Regarding the write-up, the first killer could be the 'crazy' killer from last night phase (having 2 different serial killers would be unlikely methinks), whilst the second is obviously Japanese. The KMT group either lost someone (beefy), or is in hiding/using an undetectable ability. This write-up doesn't tell us much, so it would be better to use voting records from last day phase, which er, would not be that productive either, thanks to the uber-bandwagon.
:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Actually that is decent reasoning, except for the fact I had petrol bombs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Vote: AVSM
What is this super market you speak of? Bah, I denounce this market as a hive for the wretched capitalists to take shelter in! We must obliterate it, and continue on our journey to proletariat justice!
You saw him eating a spicy meatball?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
Vote: ArpeggiateTHIS
Huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cultured Drizzt fan
So why did you fail in your protection orders, CDF?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cultured Drizzt fan
I like how you skipped that and gave a nonsense reply to something else.
I didn't. Mine were in right beside yours beskar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
If you didn't fail, then why weren't you in the write-up and why are me and taka dead?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cultured Drizzt fan
So you obviously failed somewhere.
How come Beskar was picked off from the rest of you then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cultured Drizzt fan
It seems like taka was attacked and Beskar died as the only person keeping an eye on him.
Perhaps everybody did send their orders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Subotan
Thanks for the heads-up about any future readers going to think I look stupid. :tongue:Quote:
Last edited by Subotan; Today at 21:46.
*shrug* I have no idea how it happened. I sent in orders, thats all I know. The rest of the group was mentioned slightly. Its possible Beskar just got unlucky in a dice roll for whether the protection hurt him, or maybe its one of the SK's ability. I honestly don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
Anyway, kill Johnhughthom, he is the one with bombs and hasn't accounted for these yet.
Heh, that was just to add the list of the dead and alive players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
What are you trying to pull, shlin? Each day thus far, you've voted for one of our Chairman's appointed officers... for what reason and to what end do you maintain this stance? It stands out from a mile off as scummy and deliberately WIFOM-laden.Quote:
Originally Posted by shlin28
vote: shlin28
Lol x 100. My orders were sent, on time and correct. I think it is due to the way Double A worded his PM:Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
He used mentioned as reference to the PM receivers, instead of stating their names.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
But, then again a protection group works with 3 members, anymore is back-up, so perhaps the killer bypasses protection? A bomb can't reall be protected against can it? My guess is the random.org gods picked Beskar to die.
And we should vote Sigurd. Gut says so, so it must be done.
vote: Sigurd
I REALLY don't think Subo would take my orders that literal. I mean... really? Who would? You'd have to be a robot to take them that literal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychonaut
The rules state you need to specifically mention each person in the group Double A.
My sister listens to this, which is the only reason why I know this song. Also the glitter freaks me out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
So... Wideyedwander is Japanese?
I can't even think of a reply to that.
A vote for AVSM is a bad vote. He hasn't posted in this game and will likely be on Subotan's Bad List soon (whatever that means). I'm expecting a replacement or a WOG, so why would we waste a lynch on him?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS
I suggest you reconsider.
Agreed. What's your point shlin? You're the only one who didn't vote for Beefy on the last round. Here's your votes so far:Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
Day 2: ACIN
Day 3: khaan
Day 4: autolycus
Day 5-6: Seamus and possibly GH.
Predetermined targets, nice and convenient. Then what? Are you going to start the loop again? Are you hoping his behavior won't be suspicious?
Doesn't work like that. vote: shlin28
Gah, this round hurt.
A shame he didn't die instead then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychonaut
So Subo, were my orders valid or not?
Cause if they were, I don't know WHAT went wrong, maybe the killer is super awesome. If they weren't, either the killer is good, or there's an infiltrator in the group. There could have been two if mine were good, but that's highly unlikely.
I agree with Psychonaut, the attack on Beskar/taka means that the killer is able to kill through protection, and also kill one of the guardians on the way. This ability must have a limited number of uses otherwise it would be too powerful (and would also render comrade protection pointless).
If we agree with the above, then it means the killer knew that Beskar would be protected. I don't see him wasting his ability unless he was sure to go through protection and get two kills from it.
I heard whispers that Beskar was not a vanilla townie, and that's reason enough to attack him. This info circulating around, plus GH telling a lot of people who would be protected means that Beskar was a very nice target to someone able to kill 2 while going through protection.
So far I'm not happy with the GH administration, it seems that information is circulating around too much. It's time to limit the chit-chat to a need-to-know basis.
taka was attacked, Beskar was part of the protection group.