Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insanious
So this was pretty much the most useless first day of a mafia game ever... no one talked about anything, and now day 2 is just like day 1 but we are down 6 people now... we going to start the almost obligatory "talk about lynching inactives, which then gives people something to analyze to actually start the thread off?" Or are we just going to continue to use random.org to find which targets we should lynch? Just wondering.
I do not like this post - you sound like a tryhard, a despairing one at that. I especially do not like being told what I think, nor do I find it pleasent you'd subtle accuse the town of incompetence, and then try to formulate it into an innocent question. No townie would do this, not Day 1, 2, 10, or 20.
Vote: Insanious
Thanks for the lead though, power role or scum that you are.
01-01-2011, 00:11
Captain Blackadder
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insanious
So this was pretty much the most useless first day of a mafia game ever... no one talked about anything, and now day 2 is just like day 1 but we are down 6 people now... we going to start the almost obligatory "talk about lynching inactives, which then gives people something to analyze to actually start the thread off?" Or are we just going to continue to use random.org to find which targets we should lynch? Just wondering.
If that is how you feel then begin by stating some views who do you find suspicious? Ask some questions, do something, do not just snipe from the sidelines.
01-01-2011, 00:21
Greyblades
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Aw man dead on the first day? Hrmph, put me down for replacements.
01-01-2011, 00:22
woad&fangs
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
vote: Insanious At least give us a vote before you start disparaging our methods. A random day one is hardly a thorn in the IGFH and GH side.
01-01-2011, 00:26
Nightbringer
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insanious
So this was pretty much the most useless first day of a mafia game ever... no one talked about anything, and now day 2 is just like day 1 but we are down 6 people now... we going to start the almost obligatory "talk about lynching inactives, which then gives people something to analyze to actually start the thread off?" Or are we just going to continue to use random.org to find which targets we should lynch? Just wondering.
Um, since when is the first day ever very useful? Honestly, there was a lot more of value than there usually is yesterday. This post strikes me very strangely. However, I am going to reserve judgement for later, when there are more posts to look at. For the time being though, lets post a nice clean vote:abstain
01-01-2011, 00:41
Insanious
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
I do not like this post - you sound like a tryhard, a despairing one at that. I especially do not like being told what I think, nor do I find it pleasent you'd subtle accuse the town of incompetence, and then try to formulate it into an innocent question. No townie would do this, not Day 1, 2, 10, or 20.
Vote: Insanious
Thanks for the lead though, power role or scum that you are.
Um.... I didn't tell you what to think in any way shape or form, where did you get that from my post? Nor did I accuse anyone of incompetence, I was just saying that no one was posting. Its really hard to find scum when all you have to go on is a post with "Vote player XXX". We had 3 pages of "/in" posts, 7 pages of voting, and ~1 page of day/night posts... there has been nothing to talk about or analyze.
Unless of course you have a talking point we can start on... or a good way to analyze 1st day voting to find scum...
01-01-2011, 01:04
Motep
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Maybe we should go after those who wanted so badly that tie? It does not take much to figure that a tie would lead to both being dead, and any other result would still be good for the baddies.
Who honestly thought one would survive? I shoudl have voted earlier....Warman....I am sorry I could not save you. :shame:
01-01-2011, 01:15
Sasaki Kojiro
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
unvote, vote:motep
01-01-2011, 01:23
Motep
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
unvote, vote:motep
I am truly honoured.
:bow:
01-01-2011, 01:48
Romanic
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Motep
Maybe we should go after those who wanted so badly that tie? It does not take much to figure that a tie would lead to both being dead, and any other result would still be good for the baddies.
Who honestly thought one would survive? I shoudl have voted earlier....Warman....I am sorry I could not save you. :shame:
Tsk, what are you talking about? Ties are usually resolved one way or another. I don't remember a game where all the tied players would die, so you can count me in those who "honestly thought one would survive".
Looking at the running tallies, it was rarely tied during the day. In fact after one player reached 5 votes, the tally was exactly tied 3 times and the way votes were going, I have doubts that any of them were created on purpose, except Glenn who was very specific on the matter.
Besides, how do you propose to find those "who wanted so badly a tie"?
01-01-2011, 01:50
PershsNhpios
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Well that seems absolutely disastrous... Aurora 242 is marked down as a "Survivalist", but one would think she is a very powerful pro-town role - if she isn't of course, we can't complain! I am just surprised to be still alive (See Active Contributor in the Glossary).
I don't think there is any point in lynching Insanious just over his annoyance at how hopeless the town is in the first few rounds. His attitude reminds me of a pure townie who is disgruntled by the lack of options.
I'd like to point something out to new players if I may - something that might be obvious but which I didn't know about 'til after Capo II.
In the forum, when you look at the thread titles, if you click on the number of replies for that thread you will be given a list of all participants and the number of posts they have made in the thread.
By clicking on this number, you will be taken to a list comprising all posts that player made in order, start to finish.
This can be an invaluable tool of analysis.
And looking at that list this morning, one of the players I am liking least, and certainly one of the least helpful is
Vote: Rebel Jeb
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Separate edit:
FoS: A possible link between Motep and Romanic.
01-01-2011, 01:56
Motep
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
In the forum, when you look at the thread titles, if you click on the number of replies for that thread you will be given a list of all participants and the number of posts they have made in the thread.
I was trying to remember how to do that....I cannot believe I forgot something so simple. So beautiful.
And by "who desired a tie", I meant those who were actively trying to get one. Clarity...maybe not my strong point this evening.
If ties have been settled without both dying in the past, forgive my error. I have little previous experience guiding me here, and that which does guide me is far from fresh.
I accept your suspicion, but all I have to give in return in fudge. Voting you would be no good right now, and as far as my suspicions go, I will hunt back in the past over yonder to the left.
EDIT #2: This will be a moment waiting. Errands on new years eve...such a pity.
01-01-2011, 02:02
Romanic
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Separate edit:
FoS: A possible link between Motep and Romanic.
Why are you raising that possibility?
01-01-2011, 02:06
robbiecon
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
I had a strange feeling I'd be killed off last night.oh well.
01-01-2011, 02:11
Reenk Roink
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Well that was a short experiment... Finding out that I was just a townie was even more disappointing than being killed on the first night. :sad:
01-01-2011, 02:16
PershsNhpios
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
Why are you raising that possibility?
Because it's possible.
Why, is it true?
01-01-2011, 02:22
classical_hero
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
I'd like to point something out to new players if I may - something that might be obvious but which I didn't know about 'til after Capo II.
In the forum, when you look at the thread titles, if you click on the number of replies for that thread you will be given a list of all participants and the number of posts they have made in the thread.
By clicking on this number, you will be taken to a list comprising all posts that player made in order, start to finish.
This can be an invaluable tool of analysis.
Thanks for that pro-tip. I had a feeling there was a feature like that.
01-01-2011, 02:26
Romanic
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Because it's possible.
Why, is it true?
No. Is this a trick question? I doubt anyone would answer yes in this case, mason or scum.
Are you evading my question on purpose? I'd still like to hear why you came up with this idea and why you chose to bring this up in the game thread.
01-01-2011, 02:29
Frozen In Ice
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Vote: Glenn Your last post doesn't sit right with me. Not the part that classical_hero qouted above, that was actually very helpful, but the rest of it. You seem to be trying very hard to appear as a helpful townie, and that "possible Motep-Romanic" link is part of it. It seems like a very fragile connection to base suspicions off of and to me it comes off as trying really hard to appear townie. Not to mention you said you already trusted Double A on day 1, that also seemed off.
01-01-2011, 02:37
Beskar
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Alright, I will be straight to the point.
I have received a private message from some-one claiming to be an investigator. I will be extremely unimpressed if this information is false and I will out the investigator straight away. Apparently they struck one of the scum last night in an investigation and they don't want to risk exposing themselves to everybody for the obvious reasons.
They have stated they investigated TinCow and received the result of him being "Corrupted Cloud Strife" and being one of the killers last night.
Vote: TinCow
Being honest, this is too important to ignore and I suggest lynching him asap.
01-01-2011, 02:44
Insanious
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
They have stated they investigated TinCow and received the result of him being "Corrupted Cloud Strife" and being one of the killers last night.
Vote: TinCow
I don't know if I believe this "Investigator":
1st killer = Samus
2nd killer = Seems to me like Pikachu, but no idea... there's only one episode with a blue eye'd pikachu... well a Mewtwo controlled Pikachu...
3rd killer = Someone with red eyes, and kills with cold
4th killer = Dark Samus
Cloud Strife is neither: Tiny and uses lightning, nor does cloud kill with cold...
Either:
1) Inverstigator is fibbing
2) Investigation result is wrong
3) Corrupted Cloud Strife kills by freezing people and is from Kid Icarus' LP
4) Corrupted Cloud Strike is tiny and kills people with lightning
To me, just doesn't seem to fit any of the 4 killers last night, might just be me.
Edit: just changed "dark cloud strife" to "corrupted cloud strife"
01-01-2011, 02:49
Beskar
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insanious
1) Inverstigator is fibbing
2) Investigation result is wrong
3) Dark Cloud Strife kills by freezing people and is from Kid Icarus' LP
4) Dark Cloud Strike is tiny and kills people with lightning
Being honest, I doubt the investigator would have been stupid enough to lie to me, because if TinCow gets lynched and isn't 'Corrupted Cloud Strife', I would list their name in the post right after Chaotix's write-up. Not only that, they would probably receive an angry worded private message from TinCow himself and I would be extremely unimpressed.
Plus this isn't simply a random person requesting this from me, I trust this person enough to do this in the first place, because I would inform them to do it themselves otherwise.
However, there is the obvious alternative, where you are trying to defend your scum buddy...
01-01-2011, 02:58
Skooma Addict
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Alright, I will be straight to the point.
I have received a private message from some-one claiming to be an investigator. I will be extremely unimpressed if this information is false and I will out the investigator straight away. Apparently they struck one of the scum last night in an investigation and they don't want to risk exposing themselves to everybody for the obvious reasons.
They have stated they investigated TinCow and received the result of him being "Corrupted Cloud Strife" and being one of the killers last night.
Vote: TinCow
Being honest, this is too important to ignore and I suggest lynching him asap.
I'll bite, ol' Beskie.
Vote: TinCow
01-01-2011, 02:58
autolycus
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Vote:TinCow
It seems like this is a win-win situation. If TinCow is Corrupted Cloud Strife, we've almost certainly taken down a scum. If he isn't, we've identified a false prophet.
01-01-2011, 03:00
johnhughthom
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Vote: TinCow
01-01-2011, 03:02
PershsNhpios
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Frozen In Ice, why must suspicions be based on anything strong or obvious? I believe that is what votes are for.
My suspicions could be verily placed upon anyone or anything I please to suspect, if it appears suspicious to me.
I like the way Romanic and Motep are reacting, it is jaw-droppingly suspicious.
Romanic and Motep sitting in a tree K-I-L-L-I-N-G, all T-O-W-N-I-Es.
But note that I haven't voted for them yet.
01-01-2011, 03:02
Insanious
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Alrighty then, I'll bite
Vote:TinCow
01-01-2011, 03:04
classical_hero
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
I like Auto's analysis of the situtation, so with that logic it seems best to vote:Tincow
01-01-2011, 03:06
PershsNhpios
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Unvote; Vote: Insanious
One silly move too many Insanious; just what are you playing at?
I'm not convinced at all Beskar, you're just "being honest", I know - but this is inclined to have me doubting you.
01-01-2011, 03:08
TinCow
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Ugh out of town and posting on phone. No time to defend myself at length due to nye party. Investigator is lying. Last night I was investigating. As proof, my result was that sasaki is Rundas, GF survivalist. He can confirm this.
01-01-2011, 03:11
Insanious
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Unvote; Vote: Insanious
One silly move too many Insanious; just what are you playing at?
I'm not convinced at all Beskar, you're just "being honest", I know - but this is inclined to have me doubting you.
I am genuinely confused as to how I look scummy, can you please clarify? What specifically in my posts make me look like I am a RED?
01-01-2011, 03:11
Romanic
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Not sure what to make of Insanious' analysis of who were the killers and why it cannot be this Corrupted Cloud Strife. Maybe I should read more on the characters we've seen so far.
@Beskar: Are you sure your source said that TinCow was one of the 4 killers from last night? I'm thinking that maybe he wasn't.
This stuff reminds me of a game on CFC where I was scanned on Day 1 as a threat to the nation, but I was innocent and the scanner was in fact, a bad scanner, getting wrong results, and I was lynched outright (Mars Attack! on CFC).
Anyway, I've never been big on coming out early when a scum is scanned. There's information to get from a known scum, looking at his posts and his votes, and I wish our scanner would have waited to see his 2nd result, simply on the possibility that his scans are not reliable.
Anyway, such a claim is too strong to ignore, so...
vote: TinCow
01-01-2011, 03:13
PershsNhpios
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Unvote; Vote: Rebel Jeb Sorry Insanious, my vote may have been unfounded - I need to reread this new escapade of Beskar's.
Apologies!
01-01-2011, 03:14
Death is yonder
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
This is indeed a situation where it is too good to pass over should the information be true.
Vote: Tincow
However, I cautiously note the eagerness in lynching the investigator should he be wrong. The current situation reminds me wayy too much of Star Wars Mafia where in a similar case, Tincow was "exposed" by an investigator who wrongly interpreted his results, and after that, got lynched himself [Rebel Jeb].
Non Vote Edit: I am curious however, as to why specifically Beskar was pmed. Why indeed? Out of all the number of people alive, and after the first night to boot (so its unlikely that said investigator scanned Beskar first).
01-01-2011, 03:15
pevergreen
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Well that was a short experiment... Finding out that I was just a townie was even more disappointing than being killed on the first night. :sad:
I swear, whoever killed Reenk will face my wrath! KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Ugh out of town and posting on phone. No time to defend myself at length due to nye party. Investigator is lying. Last night I was investigating. As proof, my result was that sasaki is Rundas, GF survivalist. He can confirm this.
Pending response from Sasaki -
Vote: TinCow
01-01-2011, 03:15
Beskar
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Ugh out of town and posting on phone. No time to defend myself at length due to nye party. Investigator is lying. Last night I was investigating. As proof, my result was that sasaki is Rundas, GF survivalist. He can confirm this.
Is your night action the only thing you are denying? Because being honest, being called 'Corrupted Cloud Strife' doesn't look very Hero or GF-like.
I rather test this by fire, if the investigator is lying, they will be dead, and if you are lying.. well.. my apologises, better safe than sorry. Either way, a mafia/scum will be getting the chop. The investigator currently has more credibility at the moment, due to the fact they were specific in their result, that you are 'Corrupted Cloud Strife' and they put themselves at a big risk by requesting me to reveal this information on their behalf, as I would be first on the bandwagon for lynching them if they lied.
01-01-2011, 03:22
Beskar
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
I got more information from the Investigator.
They were only assuming that TinCow was one of last night's killers and apologises if this was incorrect, but he has revealed further information on his result.
"Corrupted Cloud Strife is a member of a faction called the Phazon"
So looks like we have a faction/group for who Corrupted Cloud Strife is working for or belong too.
Edit:
From the wikia link:
Quote:
Phazon is a highly radioactive, mutagenic, and semi-sentient substance
Quote:
Scans of dead troopers on the G.F.S. Valhalla also seem to indicate that Phazon found impaling troopers is absorbing the corpses and turning them into Phazon.
Quote:
However, bioforms with prolonged Phazon exposure that do not die are horribly mutated. Exposure to Phazon radiation destroys brain cells and cognitive thought in sentient beings, yet it also sees a gain of muscle mass and other beneficial abilities. Phazon exposure, while destroying the mind, makes beings hunger for more Phazon. In turn, corrupted beings also have a natural instinct to protect Phazon and its source
Either the investigator knows a lot of meteroid to be able to pull something convincing, or this is a legitimate result and demonstrates the effort and thought Choatix put in the game.
01-01-2011, 03:22
PershsNhpios
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Nonsense, Beskar, there are many more possiilities than that.
This isn't the first time an "if I'm wrong, you can all just lynch me" excuse has come up. Your investigator could be your invincible boss, or he could be an innocent townie which you intend to frame, or he could be non-existent.
I know this is too logical for most to comprehend, but maye we should suspend ALL votes on TinCow until we hear from Sasaki, since it is easier to get everyone to place a vote than it is to have them unvote. Bandwagons tend to be irreversible when it comes to one-post wonders such as pevergreen, classical_hero, Skooma Addict and johnhughtom.
01-01-2011, 03:24
Seon
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
We have Cloud Strife on our freaking ship?....
Can this be any crazier?
01-01-2011, 03:31
classical_hero
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Ugh out of town and posting on phone. No time to defend myself at length due to nye party. Investigator is lying. Last night I was investigating. As proof, my result was that sasaki is Rundas, GF survivalist. He can confirm this.
That might be true, but it does not make you innocent.
01-01-2011, 03:32
pevergreen
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Bandwagons tend to be irreversible when it comes to one-post wonders such as pevergreen, classical_hero, Skooma Addict and johnhughtom.
Unvote, Vote: Glenn
Stick that up your one post wonder.
01-01-2011, 03:34
Romanic
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Frozen In Ice, why must suspicions be based on anything strong or obvious? I believe that is what votes are for.
My suspicions could be verily placed upon anyone or anything I please to suspect, if it appears suspicious to me.
I like the way Romanic and Motep are reacting, it is jaw-droppingly suspicious.
Romanic and Motep sitting in a tree K-I-L-L-I-N-G, all T-O-W-N-I-Es.
But note that I haven't voted for them yet.
:laugh4:
If someone's acting suspiciously, it's you. Twice you have thrown suspicions at me and twice you have ignored my request to know why I look suspicious to you. Throwing suspicions without backing up your claim is anti-town. It just looks like a scum trying to raise suspicion on someone without a good reason (cause let's face it, scum never have a good reason).
Also saying that someone is very scummy, and not vote for them, is even more anti-town. In this case you are saying that there's a connection between Motep and I, and that were are killing townies. All this without backing up your claim.
And I'm really not in your face because you are accusing me, this kind of behavior is clearly not helpful. My vote is not on you because there's a better candidate, but I'm not done with you.
And I won't bring up the fact that you wrote something along the lines of "I'm soooo Townie, but go figure the mafia let me live, wow!!!" (oh wait, I just brought it up).
01-01-2011, 03:34
Beskar
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Just been referred to another wikia page, Dark Samus.
Quote:
Dark Samus (ダークサムス DaakuSamusu, Samus Oscura in Spanish) is a being of Phazon taking on the form of Samus Aran. She made a brief cameo appearance in the secret ending of Metroid Prime, was a central character in Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, and was the main antagonist in Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.
Looks like he is part of the Dark Samus team.
01-01-2011, 03:42
Beskar
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
On another note, TinCow's result could be correct and he could still be mafia.
It isn't a first time a mafia team has got an investigator. See ATPG's Starwars game (Psychonaut), Netherworld 2 (Sigurd), Shadowfort (Psychonaut), etc
Trial by fire is definitely a way to go.
01-01-2011, 03:44
Diamondeye
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
While I'm going to go with Beskar's early (too early?) hit and vote:Tincow, I think there is some sort of reason to what Glenn says; even if we end up lynching TinCow, we should try and use this round to accumulate info on other players as well.
I'm going to actually click those links and make up an educated opinion when it's not 3:45 AM and I'm not drunk. So far, my vote's where it's ought to be.
01-01-2011, 03:48
Beefy187
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Why kill Reenk on the first night?
01-01-2011, 03:50
Romanic
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Ugh out of town and posting on phone. No time to defend myself at length due to nye party. Investigator is lying. Last night I was investigating. As proof, my result was that sasaki is Rundas, GF survivalist. He can confirm this.
This is hardly proof enough that you are a Town scanner. Scum can have access to investigative results on their own, and we've seen them use this information to claim scanner, in previous games. Lylat Wars come to mind when Pinman claimed having scanned TheFlax.
Since you're ready to claim your ability (scanner), now I'd like to hear you claim a name. Your counterclaim would have held more weight in my eyes if you gave up your complete role (name and ability), but let's see which name you will come up with.
01-01-2011, 04:02
pevergreen
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefy187
Why kill Reenk on the first night?
I concur beefy. WHHYYYYYYY.
01-01-2011, 04:18
Greyblades
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Sigh nevermind. sorry.
01-01-2011, 04:27
pevergreen
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
I think I should probably inform you lot that I was
-Dead players can participate, but may NOT vote or reveal previous night actions or sensitive information they knew before their death.
I take that to mean, no reveal after death.
Edit it out G-blades?
01-01-2011, 04:50
classical_hero
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Bandwagons tend to be irreversible when it comes to one-post wonders such as pevergreen, classical_hero, Skooma Addict and johnhughtom.
It is often a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't. I was being accused of being scum since a being a bit too active, or that's how i saw it from Winston, even if it was just first day follies and now you are saying that I am a one post wonder. What if this bandwagon is correct? If it is correct then fos:Glenn since he is attacking a bandwagon based on good evidence so far. If we are correct, you look extremely suspicious.
01-01-2011, 04:50
Choxorn
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Death is yonder
However, I cautiously note the eagerness in lynching the investigator should he be wrong. The current situation reminds me wayy too much of Star Wars Mafia where in a similar case, Tincow was "exposed" by an investigator who wrongly interpreted his results, and after that, got lynched himself [Rebel Jeb].
Jeb was Night-killed, not lynched.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greyblades
Aw man dead on the first day? Hrmph, put me down for replacements.
This.
Of course I'm dead by Day 2 in two seperate large mafia games, the other being Earthling's game on CFC.
To whoever killed me: If you are in that game, then I swear to whatever deities exist in this multiverse, I will find you, shoot you with a cannon and feed you to a space monster.
01-01-2011, 04:52
Secura
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Having seen Beskar discussing this while at his home today (Happy New Year to you all, by the way), I can vouch for how serious he was about this accusation and how strongly he trusted his source.
As previous posters have stated, being an investigator and providing a result backed up by another player doesn't always mean you're town; I remember Psychonaut having a potential recruit scanning ability as the Turkish Spymaster in Shadow Fort, for example. It's entirely possibly that Beskar's source has accurately scanned a similar role in TinCow, who could be able to scan for potential Phazon recruits.
As such, vote: TinCow
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Originally Posted by pevergreen
I concur beefy. WHHYYYYYYY.
I said something similar to Beskar; it's rare that Reenk signs up for games these days, it's a shame that he finds a game interesting and commits to it only to die early... reminds me of Sigurd's Star Wars game where Husar was killed on the first night during his first game back in the saddle after a very long hiatus. >.<
01-01-2011, 05:07
Frozen In Ice
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
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Originally Posted by TinCow
Ugh out of town and posting on phone. No time to defend myself at length due to nye party. Investigator is lying. Last night I was investigating. As proof, my result was that sasaki is Rundas, GF survivalist. He can confirm this.
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Originally Posted by Psychonaut
Out of town posting fromphone. Yes vote forguy who had no internet acess for most week. Veryw well played chaotiz.
A trend among mafia perhaps?:clown:
01-01-2011, 05:11
Sasaki Kojiro
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
I'm rundas, gf survivalist.
Have you guys learned nothing from past games? Keep the wagon small enough to be reversible pending discussion. We need a better idea of the setup.
3 investigators so far implies that they are fairly nerfed.
01-01-2011, 05:11
Sasaki Kojiro
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
fos:frozeninice
01-01-2011, 05:44
Yaropolk
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Vote: Beskar Beskie - why did the investigator say he randomly trusted you on N1? If I was in his shoes, I would wait until N2 to clear you before revealing.
Other folks: you don't have to vote for Beskie, but listen to what Sasaki said above and keep the band wagon small enough to change it should new info arise.
01-01-2011, 06:01
PershsNhpios
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
There we have it - news from the horses mouth.
This doesn't prove Beskar guilty by any means but I think it certainly disproves the legitimacy of a bandwagon on TinCow, although he should remain in the limelight until he returns to state his defence which I'm sure he will soon enough.
classical_hero, you may not be a one-post wonder, but you must admit that my comment prevented you from becoming one.
I don't know about Motep, but Romanic certainly seems to have his knickers in a knotty.
The idea of having a detective or any pro-town role reveal his full role on the second day can only favour the mafia, unless the detective states otherwise.
Romanic just isn't making sense, his suggestions are just villainous.
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
fos:Beskar - Given the worst case scenario, that is he is scum and we follow him, we lose three days. Day one for tincow. Day two for whoever "revealed" tincow. And day three for beskar. Three days of relative safety for the rest of his crew to run amok in the night and kill us all. But this is the worst case scenario, mind. fos:Tincow - best case scenario. Another thing to bear in mind. fos:Glenn - herding us away from tincow and towards me and romanic. Could be scum herd? And the "detective" is working through a second party, so he is not actually in direct danger if he exists.
I advise caution, but note that good bandwagons would be just as reversible as bad ones, and easier for a concentrated effort by a synchronized party.
also: fos:seon - he posted a picture of a small blue-eyed thing....is this normal for him?
01-01-2011, 06:23
Seon
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
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Originally Posted by Motep
fos:seon - he posted a picture of a small blue-eyed thing....is this normal for him?
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
unvote, vote:Seon
Nothing to say, but in a good mood about the way the day is playing out. Let's lynch this guy.
01-01-2011, 06:30
Romanic
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
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Originally Posted by Glenn
The idea of having a detective or any pro-town role reveal his full role on the second day can only favour the mafia, unless the detective states otherwise.
Romanic just isn't making sense, his suggestions are just villainous.
Giving his name would validate his claim by giving us more information to analyze it. At this point he needs all the help he can get, if he really is a Town scanner. I don't see what's vilainous in my idea since as it is, TinCow is going to be lynched and we will now his name.
Also, if TinCow is not mafia, then the mafia know he's probably telling the truth about being a Town scanner, and theywill likely try to kill him asap, so I really do not see how the mafia will profit more from knowing his name. Please explain to me how the mafia would profit from this new information? I just don't see it.
I'm not sure if I should expect an answer here. You keep avoiding me. :laugh4:
And if I am so vilainous, why don't you stick your vote on me instead of.... er.... Rebel Jeb because, quoting yourself, he's "one of the least helpful players". That certainly does not look as scummy as how you describe me.
Put your money where your mouth is. For all I know you're a scum trying to raise suspicions on other players without actually committing yourself.
unvote; vote: Glenn
While reducing the bandwagon on TinCow to keep it manageable. I'm just a multitasker, I surprise myself.
01-01-2011, 06:30
Motep
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
I am very tired, and have not diligently read past post #343. I just have a few points to make that I will likely forget if I don't say them now.
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Originally Posted by YLC
I do not like this post - you sound like a tryhard, a despairing one at that. I especially do not like being told what I think, nor do I find it pleasent you'd subtle accuse the town of incompetence, and then try to formulate it into an innocent question. No townie would do this, not Day 1, 2, 10, or 20.
Vote: Insanious
Thanks for the lead though, power role or scum that you are.
I have done this as a townie before (and got lynched). I'm not defending him, this is just for the record.
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Originally Posted by Frozen In Ice
Vote: Glenn Your last post doesn't sit right with me. Not the part that classical_hero qouted above, that was actually very helpful, but the rest of it. You seem to be trying very hard to appear as a helpful townie, and that "possible Motep-Romanic" link is part of it. It seems like a very fragile connection to base suspicions off of and to me it comes off as trying really hard to appear townie. Not to mention you said you already trusted Double A on day 1, that also seemed off.
That does seem off, why would someone trust anyone on day one?
Unless... of course! We're scum buddies! It all makes sense now.
Finally, I must say, while I disapprove of bandwagons, it's day two, and I don't really see any other options turning up. For now, though, I shall vote: abstain, just in case I can't get on for whatever reason. Good night, and happy new year.
01-01-2011, 06:42
Beskar
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
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Originally Posted by Glenn
This doesn't prove Beskar guilty by any means but I think it certainly disproves the legitimacy of a bandwagon on TinCow, although he should remain in the limelight until he returns to state his defence which I'm sure he will soon enough.
No, it doesn't disapprove of any legitimacy. Don't have to be sore because whoever gave me this information, spoke to me, opposed to yourself (who is definitely shown to be 'trustworthy'). At the current rate, my actions have so far proven that I am in fact one of the best people to have revealed to.
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fos:Beskar - Given the worst case scenario, that is he is scum and we follow him, we lose three days. Day one for tincow. Day two for whoever "revealed" tincow. And day three for beskar. Three days of relative safety for the rest of his crew to run amok in the night and kill us all. But this is the worst case scenario, mind.
Should be rephrased as "dumbest case scenario". If I was a mafia or wanted to assist any 'mafia partners', I wouldn't walk into the limelight of a game on day two.
01-01-2011, 06:45
Motep
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
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Originally Posted by Beskar
No, it doesn't disapprove of any legitimacy.
Should be rephrased as "dumbest case scenario". If I was a mafia or wanted to assist any 'mafia partners', I wouldn't walk into the limelight of a game on day two.
So dumb it might work?
(although I do agree, it seems pretty stupid, unless there are plans to move quite quickly.)
01-01-2011, 06:52
Beskar
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
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Originally Posted by Motep
So dumb it might work?
(although I do agree, it seems pretty stupid, unless there are plans to move quite quickly.)
It wouldn't work, if I was a mafia, my death would be a big early game blow to the team. On the otherhand, this is exactly why the information from the investigator should be tested by fire. No point running around like headless chickens when you can deliver a severe and game-changing blow against the mafia.
The information given to me which I also posted in this topic, looks entirely legitimate. This is why I agreed to this in the first place. Revealing TinCow might mean my own death at the mafia tonight, but hey, 1 mafia down. :beam:
01-01-2011, 06:56
Motep
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Unless you are minor role being fed by mafia spy and tincow is important for other people....
maybe I am just being paranoid..
01-01-2011, 07:13
PershsNhpios
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Romanic, darling, I haven't voted for you because I haven't found you to be suspicious enough.
If you can get a player to talk, you can have them revealing all sorts of clues about themselves. You're a competent mafia player if you are a villain, but at this time I don't think you are, and I think Motep is even less suspicious. But both of you have very flawed reasoning. If TinCow is a detective, the surest way to kill him besides lynching him is to put him as much in the public eye as possible - which is what you're trying to do. Don't please.
Sasaki, why did you vote for Seon? That was surely the least satisfying post you have made today.
Double A, rest assured that I never trusted you - I said that you were not worthy of being lynched and that was because you seemed least suspicious to me at the time. Trust was never mentioned.
01-01-2011, 07:15
Motep
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
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Originally Posted by Glenn
Romanic, darling, I haven't voted for you because I haven't found you to be suspicious enough.
If you can get a player to talk, you can have them revealing all sorts of clues about themselves. You're a competent mafia player if you are a villain, but at this time I don't think you are, and I think Motep is even less suspicious. But both of you have very flawed reasoning. If TinCow is a detective, the surest way to kill him besides lynching him is to put him as much in the public eye as possible - which is what you're trying to do. Don't please.
Sasaki, why did you vote for Seon? That was surely the least satisfying post you have made today.
Double A, rest assured that I never trusted you - I said that you were not worthy of being lynched and that was because you seemed least suspicious to me at the time. Trust was never mentioned.
Who ever thought tincow was a detective? Besides, I think it would pretty hard at this point to remove him from people's minds.
01-01-2011, 07:17
Seon
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
[Sasaki, why did you vote for Seon? That was surely the least satisfying post you have made today.
Why was it unsatisfying?
It's the second day, so you might as well lynch a raccoon.
01-01-2011, 07:23
PershsNhpios
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
No use in making it worse, Motep.
Here's a hint, look at TinCow's post - you may find a hidden confession (false or not) as to what his role is.
Seon, it was unsatisfying because I don't see the reason for it besides your annoying pictures. (Remember ATPG in the first CoV game? Jesus that was annoying, and he was the mayor of the town so to speak!)
01-01-2011, 07:32
Motep
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
forgetting is bad....
edit: as in, forgetting that stuff he said
01-01-2011, 07:36
thefluffyone93
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
This entire conversation is too confusing for me to understand right now, so Vote: Abstain
until I do make sense of it all.
Unless someone wants to sum up this entire argument in a few sentences?
Oh, and HAPPEH NEW YEAR!
01-01-2011, 07:47
Motep
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
I said something, romanic supported me, and glen suspected us both. Those two went on tangent against each other, and I ate some chicken and enjoyed the show.
01-01-2011, 07:50
Romanic
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Romanic, darling, I haven't voted for you because I haven't found you to be suspicious enough.
If you can get a player to talk, you can have them revealing all sorts of clues about themselves. You're a competent mafia player if you are a villain, but at this time I don't think you are, and I think Motep is even less suspicious.
"Romanic darling"???? Don't say that again, you'll put bizarre thoughts in Beskar's head. :laugh4:
I am having difficulties understanding how you evaluate who's suspicious enough to get a vote, and who's not. Your reason to vote for Rebel Jeb was:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
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Originally Posted by Glenn
And looking at that list this morning, one of the players I am liking least, and certainly one of the least helpful is
Vote: Rebel Jeb
And here's some of the things some wrote about me:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
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Originally Posted by Glenn
FoS: A possible link between Motep and Romanic.
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Originally Posted by Glenn
I like the way Romanic and Motep are reacting, it is jaw-droppingly suspicious.
Romanic and Motep sitting in a tree K-I-L-L-I-N-G, all T-O-W-N-I-Es.
But note that I haven't voted for them yet.
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Originally Posted by Glenn
I don't know about Motep, but Romanic certainly seems to have his knickers in a knotty.
The idea of having a detective or any pro-town role reveal his full role on the second day can only favour the mafia, unless the detective states otherwise.
Romanic just isn't making sense, his suggestions are just villainous.
Based on these posts, I should be above Rebel Jeb in your suspect list, unless your are purposely giving false impressions in the game thread.
Contradictions and spreading unfounded suspicions does not look townish to me.
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Originally Posted by Glenn
[...]
But both of you have very flawed reasoning. If TinCow is a detective, the surest way to kill him besides lynching him is to put him as much in the public eye as possible - which is what you're trying to do. Don't please.
I don't know if we're reading the same stuff here, but TinCow is already under a big spotlight and it can hardly get bigger. He claimed investigate powers, and has 10 votes on him: I don't see how he would avoid being attacked by the mafia in the next days, if he not lynched today. Revealing more about his role, or not, won't change this fact (but it might stop his lynch and maybe put us on the right track).
01-01-2011, 08:03
Romanic
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Motep
I said something, romanic supported me, and glen suspected us both. Those two went on tangent against each other, and I ate some chicken and enjoyed the show.
"romanic supported me".
Now that's a good one! I pointed out that your idea, of voting for people who wanted a tie, wasn't a good suggestion and Glenn pointed out a possible link between us.
Sorry to bust your bubble, but I ain't supporting you in any way.
01-01-2011, 08:04
thefluffyone93
Re: [Council of Villains] A State of Corruption [In play]
Ah, thank you.....I think.
Is there still an insane amount of votes for Tincow?
Last I saw, it was around 9 votes.