Anybody enjoying Game of Thrones? (HBO TV series)

The Mummers (and Hoat) should have played a role in season 2, I was wondering how they were going to handle Jamie's "transformation". Switching to Locke probably means they are going all in on the Boltons, Jamie and Brienne can still have their adventures without introducing the concept of mercs to the story line.

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Jamie and Brienne can still have their adventures without introducing the concept of mercs to the story line.

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Yeah. I was looking forward to the lisp though.

Kingthlayer!

And we have another trailer.
This time with some footage of who appears to be Daario Naharis, although it seems he won't have a beard in the show.
There's also some bit Joarh Mormont sword action, which is always welcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4XS...layer_embedded

So, thoughts on the premier? I really liked it. Not much action but still, a great start to the season.

I thought it was a little underwhelming. I had no real problems with it, but it was just low key setup.

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I thought it was a little underwhelming. I had no real problems with it, but it was just low key setup.

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This.
But then I'm sure it's going to get better.

Found the scene where Davos Seaworth is picked up by the boat a little touching. Probably because of the excellent background music. The bits with Joffery, Cersei and Margery were nice too. Kind of unusual to see Joffery not being a :daisy:.

That short scene with Bolton and Karstark might be a lead-in to both Jamie's storyline and the season 3 climax (slight change from the books but still acceptable). And it's always nice to see Barristan back in the show.

And season 4 is definitely a go.

What I'm looking forward the most, in this season, is the reaction to the RW, by the tv audience, unaware of it :P

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What I'm looking forward the most, in this season, is the reaction to the RW, by the tv audience, unaware of it :P

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It's not going to be anywhere close to the reaction when Sean lost his bean. Robb's story arc has never been as much in focus as that of the other Starks. In fact had it not been for Oona Chaplin it would've been the most boring part of the show.

Now that I think on it a bit, I think you're right. Which is funny, because the show has given him greater attention than the books do.

I didn't think it was underwhelming at all. The past two seasons started out slow and get intense by the fifth episodes.

really enjoyed season one, but with season two found myself watching more to see how much and what has changed from the books. they're very good show, and if taken without having read the books, would be fantastic. just can't bring myself to ignore the changes and end up being too distracted to enjoy them as much as should. a situation that will only worsen with each additional season.

Now that last episode, *that* was good TV.

Agreed ^^

I'm really liking the new actors aswell, Olenna was awesome.

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It's not going to be anywhere close to the reaction when Sean lost his bean. Robb's story arc has never been as much in focus as that of the other Starks. In fact had it not been for Oona Chaplin it would've been the most boring part of the show.

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I disagree, because

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it's not just Robb getting whacked, it's his entire army and his mother. So far, TV-only viewers have only seen solo-deaths of main characters. A wholesale massacre of one of the dominant factions of the entire series will blow their minds. Not to mention the only remaining faction in Westeros that the audience is largely sympathetic towards.

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I disagree, because....

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Unfortunately, the scenes with Robb have been terribly boring though, even with Oona Chaplin, but I do agree....

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With what you said about the downfall of one of the most sympathetic factions. Game of Thrones does that that whole vibe about it, it destroys factions and makes others look better, and creates new ones. Before we know it, we will be supporting the King from Beyond the Wall.

I haven't watched since series 2, as tv generally bores me, but I don't quite get this Oona Chapman character. Has the tv series totally done away with Tywin's role in Robb getting married? I guess that was just inferred in the books, rather than stated outright, but anything that takes away from the awesome of Tywin is bad.

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I haven't watched since series 2, as tv generally bores me, but I don't quite get this Oona Chapman character. Has the tv series totally done away with Tywin's role in Robb getting married? I guess that was just inferred in the books, rather than stated outright, but anything that takes away from the awesome of Tywin is bad.

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Chaplin, the hot granddaughter of Charlie Chaplin.
I'm pretty sure that even in the show Tywin Lannister will get due credit for the Red Wedding. That said they do seem have done away with the Westerlings all together, which is a pity because they've been mentioned even in A Dance with the Dragons. However considering that the TV series will generally follow the story of the books, we can probably infer that they won't have a big part to play in the future (in the books I mean).

I'm not talking about the Red Wedding, I mean that through her mother Tywin was behind Jeyne marrying Robb. Perhaps I just read more into it than was really there, but I'm pretty sure something in a later book strongly implied Tywin was behind the whole thing, to turn the Freys against Robb.

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I'm not talking about the Red Wedding, I mean that through her mother Tywin was behind Jeyne marrying Robb. Perhaps I just read more into it than was really there, but I'm pretty sure something in a later book strongly implied Tywin was behind the whole thing, to turn the Freys against Robb.

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It was never my impression that that marriage was engineered by anyone other than Jeyne and Robb. If there were later implications of Tywin having a hand in it, I completely missed them.

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It was never my impression that that marriage was engineered by anyone other than Jeyne and Robb. If there were later implications of Tywin having a hand in it, I completely missed them.

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Tywin used the opportunity. Jeyne's mother was a strong Lannister supporter and wrote to him upon it, she was against the union for reasons, and Tywin encouraged her to let them go through with it, offering coin, and told her to give her daughter moonbrew, to make sure there was no reproduction. Jeyne mentions her mother giving her a brew to help in fertility (it was the opposite).

So Jeyne's mother played a big part in promoting the relationship and marriage, and making sure no child was born.

Do people notice that even Shae seems to play a larger (and a less 'evil' role) in the show.

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Makes me feel she won't end up betraying Tyrion like the books, but will be killed on Tywin's orders. She's probably going to provide Tyrion the motivation Tysha provides in the books.

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Do people notice that even Shae seems to play a larger (and a less 'evil' role) in the show.

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Makes me feel she won't end up betraying Tyrion like the books, but will be killed on Tywin's orders. She's probably going to provide Tyrion the motivation Tysha provides in the books.

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I don't think that's how it's going to go at all. I think

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It will stick largely to the book, in part because the betrayal will be even more of a dagger to the heart for viewers. She'll testify against him at his trial, and then she'll end up in bed with Tywin and share the same fate. That scene will also be the end of Season 4.

Also the truth about Tysha is something that will make the viewers even more sympathetic toward Tyrion.

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I don't think that's how it's going to go at all. I think

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It will stick largely to the book, in part because the betrayal will be even more of a dagger to the heart for viewers. She'll testify against him at his trial, and then she'll end up in bed with Tywin and share the same fate. That scene will also be the end of Season 4.

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But she seems so concerned about Sansa. Something which is quite a deviation from the book, wherein if I remember rightly, she actually tells Tyrion that she thinks Sansa is stupid and dull. (Or something to this effect)

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Also the truth about Tysha is something that will make the viewers even more sympathetic toward Tyrion.

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I can wager a lot on the fact that Tysha's story will never be introduced separately now. They've had plenty of Tyrion-Tywin scenes, where they talk about Tyrion's hobbies and activities, the most recent one in the second episode of this season. They can't just have Jamie bring it up out of nowhere without any preamble, or it'll be too confusing. So yeah. I still think Shae is going to be a more sympathetic character in the show.

That said I would've liked had they stuck to the book's version.

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Revealing the hypocrisy of Tywin Lannister was an awesome move. I loved that chapter, despite all the :daisy:

This is why I don't watch tv. :laugh4:

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This is why I don't watch tv. :laugh4:

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Hey hey hey now. Don't blame TV. I'm quite capable to wasting my time discussing other stuff to no end. Video games for instance. :tongue:

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But she seems so concerned about Sansa. Something which is quite a deviation from the book, wherein if I remember rightly, she actually tells Tyrion that she thinks Sansa is stupid and dull. (Or something to this effect)

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That's true, but the fact is that they chose to make Shae a main character in the show, almost certainly to allow us to see Tyrion's private side. In the books that is largely accomplished with his internal monologues, which don't adapt well to television. So, we get more Shae to allow us a better look at Tyrion. As a result, there also needs to be some reason for Shae to be there. Putting her in her book role (the kitchen) would have been largely pointless and contributed nothing to the show. By making her Sansa's maid, she actually starts fulfilling a needed role in multiple areas. It's efficient and it works.

At the same time, that doesn't change who Shae is. She's still just a prostitute who's mainly concerned with her own state of affairs. The show has made her a bit deeper and more 'human' but that was natural because she's getting a lot more involving in the show than she got in the book. The fact remains that

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Tyrion is still going to go on trial, and Shae is going to have to make a choice. That choice will be whether to support a man who is on trial for the murder of the King (his own nephew). That man's own family wants to see him dead, and they're ruling the kingdom. While Shae might like Tyrion, I don't think it's going to be too difficult to demonstrate why she chooses to testify against him. Her future with him was essentially over at that point anyway, and she's got to look out for number one. After that, there's no reason to change anything about the rest of her storyline.

It's also one of the most dramatic moments in the entire book series. I really can't see them doing anything that would alter it, particularly since it gives HBO what they love most: tits and violence.

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I can wager a lot on the fact that Tysha's story will never be introduced separately now. They've had plenty of Tyrion-Tywin scenes, where they talk about Tyrion's hobbies and activities, the most recent one in the second episode of this season. They can't just have Jamie bring it up out of nowhere without any preamble, or it'll be too confusing.

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The Tysha story was told in season 1. The drinking game scene with Tyrion, Bronn, and Shae. I'm guessing the Tyrion-Tywin-Shae storyline is going to pan out just like the books.

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It was never my impression that that marriage was engineered by anyone other than Jeyne and Robb. If there were later implications of Tywin having a hand in it, I completely missed them.

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The theory is that the show will tell the story that it was engineered even though the books don't have that. It makes the RW into more of a betrayal, and cements Tywin as one of the Big Bads. Simpler, more emotional, than the books - sells better on TV.

It would be the one TV change that I'd be really disappointed in, because I'm still a Stark partisan and need Jeyne to be pregnant with Robb's son so the North can rally around him. As ridiculously unlikely an counter to the themes of the book that is...

The third episode has been by far the best one this season, even up to the grisly last scene. Tyrion bits were awesome as always, specially where he places his chair. And we learn of Pod's hidden talent :laugh4:
Somethings I did not get;

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Firstly Theon's story. Who's got him? Where's Ramsey Bolton? Second, where's Melisandre going? Also IMO Stannis appears a little too crazed.

Other than that, I really wish they start splitting characters and don't try to focus on so many story arcs at the same time. Reintroducing everyone together was OK, but now they should really start splitting characters by episodes. I think it'll be better if you see a character for only a few episodes but at greater length, rather than seeing them every episode for 3 minutes.

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The third episode has been by far the best one this season, even up to the grisly last scene. Tyrion bits were awesome as always, specially where he places his chair. And we learn of Pod's hidden talent :laugh4:
Somethings I did not get;

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Firstly Theon's story. Who's got him? Where's Ramsey Bolton? Second, where's Melisandre going? Also IMO Stannis appears a little too crazed.

Other than that, I really wish they start splitting characters and don't try to focus on so many story arcs at the same time. Reintroducing everyone together was OK, but now they should really start splitting characters by episodes. I think it'll be better if you see a character for only a few episodes but at greater length, rather than seeing them every episode for 3 minutes.

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ye this episode seems to be deviating by quite alot :S i think the one who killed all the men who tried to rape theon was ramsey, seeing as the man who he killed called him bastard. i think they found theons path in the books too cruel so theyll change it. Also is the one who cut of jaimes hand vargo hoat? because he seemed far to northerer to me.

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Yes, I also think the guy who freed/saved Theon was Ramsey. The only thing they can do with Theon for both this season and next season is have Ramsey torture/mess with him to a severe degree, so they need to stretch that out as much as possible. I'm positive that they're just showing Ramsey 'befriending' Theon and then turning on him just for laughs and then to break him further. It's not that much of a deviation since Ramsey did basically do just that, but in Book 2. Since they completely skipped that plotline in Season 2, it's fair for them to put a bit of it into Season 3/4.

Re: Vargo Hoat, I think they've completely written out all of the Brave Companions and are substituting Bolton and his men for them. While I liked Hoat, I'm okay with that change. There are so many characters already that the show has difficulty keeping track of them all. Adding yet another random mercenary company just after they finally introduced the Brotherhood would have had a lot of viewers scratching their heads. Jamie still saved Brienne from getting raped and he still lost his hand. So, the show didn't skip any of the necessary plot points. It doesn't really matter who does that stuff, as long as it's done. Given the prominence of the Bear song, I expect we'll also get the bear pit fight as well, so it's all looking good for that story to me.

Yup Brave Companions have been written out. I linked an article to that on the last page.
As for the bear fight;

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It's going to be there. There's a second long bit in one of the trailers where in Brienne appears to be in rags fighting something in a pit

I think I'm almost as lost as someone who's never read the books because of the aggregate deviations from the books (with which individually I've had no real issues).

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Second, where's Melisandre going?

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She spoke of king's blood, so probably went to find Edric or some other bastard. Maybe the show will make up a story with Gendry?

As for the other changes, I was ok with them. Books are always available ^^

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There are so many characters already that the show has difficulty keeping track of them all.

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Seems to be the case...

Such a shame not hearing "Kingthlayer!" though :D

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Other than that, I really wish they start splitting characters and don't try to focus on so many story arcs at the same time. Reintroducing everyone together was OK, but now they should really start splitting characters by episodes. I think it'll be better if you see a character for only a few episodes but at greater length, rather than seeing them every episode for 3 minutes.

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Agreed, I'm kinda tired of how protracted Dany's story is...
Like in season 2, where it took the whole season for something like 2 chapters. But I guess they have too keep everyone in, to please the respective fans and don't lose audience...

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shes going to get edric, i think in the books edric was on dragonstone already but the probably skipped that last season. i thought it was davos who redeemed himself and saved edric from getting burned.

Ofc that's the "real" story :P

I doubt they are going to introduce Edric and all his story, just for a 5 mins scene...
Probably will pick up a random bastard, who survived Cersei's assassinations (still if this is the case, having her departure scene feels unnecessary to me, could've just get on with the main scene with Davos)...
That's why I think they might end up mixing the story with Gendry. It will get Arya & Co, near the sea to get the storyline of the Hound and the voyage to Braavos...

We'll just have to watch ^^

It's going to be a shame when Tyrion, Bronn, and Pod get split up. Great chemistry, especially Tyrion and Bronn, like an old married couple. I bet the actors are having a blast together. :yes:

Found the summary for episode number 8 (The Bear and the Maiden Fair);

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It appears Mel will meet Gendry;

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Dany exchanges gifts with a slave lord outside of Yunkai. As Sansa frets about her prospects, Shae chafes at Tyrion's new situation. Tywin counsels the king, and Melisandre reveals a secret to Gendry. Brienne faces a formidable foe in Harrenhal.

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Also found out that the title for the next episode is And Now His Watch is Ended;

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Considering where the story is, I'm guessing this means next episode is the last we'll see of Jeor Monmont. And somehow despite all the deaths the show has seen up till now, after Ned Stark, this'll be the most saddening one. Specially since the awesomeness of the Old Bear has only risen after his dialogue in episode number 2.
Tarly, I forbid you to die!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0BD-CFVZ1w

Reminded me of Bane in TDKR.

I think he was one of the people who got *less* sympathetic from the books. He got more "screen time" in the books, and at least in this season he's mostly just running about and being harsh but fair.

Holy hell that was amazing.

When Dany was speaking in Valyrian, hell that whole scene, gave me chills.

Fantastic episode, cant wait until next week!

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Khaleesi! Khaleesi FTW! :whip:
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I knew Khaleesi wouldn't let me down, I just knew it! :2thumbsup:

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The nonexistent hitting on the decrepit :laugh4:

https://i245.photobucket.com/albums/...h16m32s191.jpg


"Dracarys!"

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Khaleesi :bow:

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Khaleesi and the Unsullied

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PS: Please markup the spoilers from the books as well; not that you haven't been doing so, just a reminder ~;)
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She's looking extra saucy in that scene. :yes:

I don't really get the Theon scenes. I guess they don't want to essentially shelve the character for a couple of seasons, but the alternative just doesn't make sense. Theon was Eddard Stark's ward for what, 7-9 years? In all that time he wouldn't have traveled to Deepwood Motte or the Dreadfort on visits to Stark bannermen? It just seems a little forced, and there are lots of other storylines that could be taking the minutes. We should only be seeing bits and pieces of Theon (pun intended).

My guess on the Jaime/RW replacement storyline

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Bolton will know that Locke has Jaime, and uses that knowledge to turn Karstark against Robb by promising Jaime to him for the RW betrayal. I'm guessing Karstark gets killed during the RW (maybe by the Greatjon) instead of Robb beheading him for the killing of the Lannister prisoners. Bolton then releases Jaime (and I assume Brienne) afterwards to Tywin.

Best episode this season. They're really setting the bar high. Every scene was full of win. Specially Tywin's scene with Cersei. He really puts her in her place.
And Mormont goes out like a boss.

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Lifts Rast up single handed and nearly strangles him before succumbing.

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That and Varys' reaction was perhaps one of the funniest bits in all the episodes till date. :yes:

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My guess on the Jaime/RW replacement storyline

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Bolton will know that Locke has Jaime, and uses that knowledge to turn Karstark against Robb by promising Jaime to him for the RW betrayal. I'm guessing Karstark gets killed during the RW (maybe by the Greatjon) instead of Robb beheading him for the killing of the Lannister prisoners. Bolton then releases Jaime (and I assume Brienne) afterwards to Tywin.

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They showed the young Lannisters last episode....doesn't Karstark kill them?

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They showed the young Lannisters last episode....doesn't Karstark kill them?

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Yes, but he killed them more or less right after Catelyn let Jaime go. Karstark has been somewhat civil up to this point, which is what leads me to believe Bolton will turn him with Jaime as leverage. In the end, it might even be Bolton that kills Karstark, as he knows he needs Jaime alive to get into Tywin's favor.

The Queen of Thorns has not disappointed, great casting.

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Yes, but he killed them more or less right after Catelyn let Jaime go. Karstark has been somewhat civil up to this point, which is what leads me to believe Bolton will turn him with Jaime as leverage. In the end, it might even be Bolton that kills Karstark, as he knows he needs Jaime alive to get into Tywin's favor.

The Queen of Thorns has not disappointed, great casting.

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Rob has to be the one who wields the sword when Karstark is given a death sentence for killing the young Lannisters….that’s how its done in the North. It would be too big of a departure for it to go any other way. But I like your theory on Bolton’s involvement, takes the behind the scenes scheming with Tywin all the way thru the various story arcs

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Rob has to be the one who wields the sword when Karstark is given a death sentence for killing the young Lannisters….that’s how its done in the North. It would be too big of a departure for it to go any other way. But I like your theory on Bolton’s involvement, takes the behind the scenes scheming with Tywin all the way thru the various story arcs

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I think they reworked the plot to avoid that altogether. I'm thinking the Karstark story arc was too minor for the show, at this late date there would be no point in Karstark killing the Lannisters and getting justice from Robb. Jaime was freed 7 episodes ago, and it would take too many scenes to get Rickard on the block. Why not just roll it all into the RW plot, with the same consequences (dead Karstark, Robb with a wolf's head, a freed Jaime, and Bolton becoming the cunning Warden of the North)? The RW is episode 9, they have only just introduced Edmure and still need to set him up the bomb.

I think they might just not even address the Karstark side plot. Isn't the only consequence in the books that Robb loses the Karstark soldiers and they later on decide to side against Stannis/the North? It's a revealing sideplot, but it's still largely self-contained.

As for the show, Karstark Prime is just one of the half-dozen salty Northern Lords who say Ominous Things to Robb, like the Greatjon.

EDIT: also jumping on the "best episode so far" bandwagon.

Okay I am a bit lost with all the names (I recognise them by look rather than name)

Before I do start writing anything I want to check the rules we are using for spoilers, spoilers are only for things in the books whereas information from the latest episode released in America is okay?

Loved the latest episode, that Queen of thorns (I assume) is quite an entertaining character, loving her daughter's manipulation as well.

I've spent the past two weeks catching up, and now I'm finally current. I can't believe I've waiting so long to get into this show.

Sunday's episode was intense, and almost seemed like a late season episode. I hate having to wait for new episodes now.

Welcome to the forum Spoonska :2thumbsup:

I am going to assume we can post without spoiler on latest American episodes, if required please edit to put the spoilers in.

Couldn't believe when they cut off his hand, fair play to the big girl though she seems to have some genuine care for him (or perhaps just repayment for the suffering he saved her from) unless she really is that committed to her mission.

Looking forward to seeing what happens with the big soldier guy with the scarred face (I should probably learn some names at some point, they mostly seem to slip from my mind when the show isn't on) fights.

I am very interested in the religious woman who is advising the one potential leader, seems so confident and assured of herself.

Absolutely loving the dragon queen, she seems to have it all, beauty, morality (well in comparison to most others) bravery and she isn't stupid either (from what I can tell so far)

Very much looking forward to seeing her armies and dragons in action.

I'm usually not a fan of TV shows and the like, I never had the determination to go right through the end, but I have to say Game of Thrones gripped me big time. Even if I know what's happening beforehand (read... no, devoured! the books).

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Oh my that was simply an excellent episode, this season has been a blast so far and I imagine will only get better!

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The Karstark execution scene gave me chills, very, very well done!

Jaime's scene in the tub was also a high point of the episode, they really casted him well.

And I stand corrected. :stwshame:

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Aye, and what a scene it was. I still have chills when I think of it. And the music just went so well with it.

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Didn't like the

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duel at the opening of the episode. It was modern day gibberish, strangled by too quick sequencing.

The rest was a blast :2thumbsup:
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Didn't like the

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duel at the opening of the episode. It was modern day gibberish, strangled by too quick sequencing.

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In all fairness, it's probably pretty difficult to film a sword fight, in a dark cave, with a sword and shield on fire and lots of people about.

Lots of good stuff. Robb's slow but inevitable descent, Shireen and Davos, Tywin putting his kids in their place, and of course the bath scene. Probably wins the award for the highest number of main characters showing their rear ends in a given episode.

igrids rearview was the best.

tub scene was very good, but not for the rearviews. i forgot that jaime was actually likeable.

I was pretty disappointed in the lack of Greyjoy storyline in this week's episode. Other than that, I'm in agreeance with everyone else. Absolutely spectacular episode.

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Welcome to the forum Spoonska

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You know nothing Jon Snow........he knows how to use his tongue :yes:

I loved last nights episode. The comedic beats had me almost in tears. Olenna is quickly becoming one of my favorite characters.

Yup, the conversation between Olenna and Tywin I think was one of the best of the series. And Littlefinger's speech about the ladder of chaos... left me in chills.

And Im really sad that Ros is gone, I liked her.

Here is the exchange between Littlefinger and Varys in case anyone is curious. And, I wonder how Theon would take Ros's death ? Their moment in s1 when she leaves for King's Landing is one of my favorites.

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Varys: A thousand blades, taken from the hands of Aegon's fallen enemies, forged in the fiery breaths of Balerion the Dread.

Littlefinger: There aren't a thousand blades, there aren't even two hundred. I've counted.

Varys: Ha, I'm sure you have. Ugly, old thing.

Littlefinger: Yet it has a certain appeal.

Varys: The Lysa Arryn of chairs. Shame you have to settle for your second choice.

Littlefinger: Early days, my friends. It is flattering, really. You feeling such DREAD at the prospect of me getting me what I want.

Varys: Thwarting you has never been my primary ambition, I promise you...although who doesn't like to see their friends fail now and then?

Littlefinger: You're so right. For instance, when I thwarted your plan to give Sansa Stark to the Tyrells. If I'm going to be honest, I did feel an unmistakable sense of enjoyment. But your confidant, the one who fed you information about my plans, the one you swore to protect...you didn't bring her any enjoyment. And she didn't bring me any enjoyment. She was a bad investment on my part. Luckily, I have a friend who wants to try something new...something daring...and he was so grateful to me for providing this "fresh experience"....

Varys: I did what I did for the good of the realm--

Littlefinger: The "realm"? Do you know what the "realm" is? It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies: a story we agreed to tell each other over and over till we forget that it's a lie.

Varys: What do we have left once we've abandoned the lie? Chaos, a gaping pit waiting to swallow us all?

Littlefinger: Chaos...isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many that try to climb it fail, never get to try it again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb. They refuse, they cling to the realm for the gods, for love...illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

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Whoever culls that vermin, that inbred abomination, will have my gratitude. That will be the ultimate catharsis, oh yes! :whip:

Welcome indeed Sponska :bow:
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Littlefinger's speech about the ladder of chaos
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Probably my favourite part of the episode!

Sattlite is Forbidden in our country (Iran)!! :soapbox:
and when its forbidden we cant have cards to unlock the scramble TVs !!!!
Damn to This ISLAMIC Regime !!!!

You cant watch it online?

Just watched episode number 6. And I do agree. I felt goosebumps during Littlefinger's speech. And during the scene between Thoros, Beric and Melisandre.
The scene between Olenna and Tywin was awesome. I almost thought Olenna would win. And Cersei and Tyrion sharing sorrows. Cersei isn't all that bad honestly. Just stupid. And finally Jon and Ygritte atop the wall, that last scene does not seem to even be from ASoIaF series. The scenery looks more suited to a CS Lewis book or maybe something from JRR Tolkien. All that light and happiness. :tongue:

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I don't know if they meant it, but the sunlight and the beautiful landscape far away in stark contrast with the dark cloud above. It's so similar to how their story ends. They never reach the sunlight of their life together.

What I cannot puzzle out is what Melisandre says to Arya. Those might be clues into books that have not come.

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Brown eyes. Blue eyes. Green eyes.

The scene between Olenna and Tywin was awesome. I almost thought Olenna would win.

I got that feeling as well, thought he may have finally met his match. The man does seem all powerful, nobody but nobody says no to Tywin.

I just wonder how he would deal with himself... probably end in a fight.

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Brown eyes. Blue eyes. Green eyes.

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I think it just means Ayra is eventually going to be killing lots of people. ~D

When Selyse called one of the bottled babies Edric, I figured they were going to merge in Gendry to that story arc. Not too much ground-breaking action in ep6, but it's necessary to breathe after the previous 2 and prep for the next big events.

Tonights episode was a bit underwhelming, especially the scene with Jamie, Brienne, and the bear.

Nice episode, GRRM's writing brought some of the characters back to life, showed their motives and their flaws like in the books. Just a necessary filler and a set up for what's to come.

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Yup. The only scene of note was Tywin and Joffery. Been waiting for that one since a while.

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We could arrange to have you carried

Full of win. :laugh4: Even Tywin is smiling after that.
Also enjoying the Jon-Ygritte chemistry. Too bad about the future.

i cant remember theon getting castrated in the books...

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i cant remember theon getting castrated in the books...

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It's not explicitly stated in the books, but there are a lot of hints dropped about it. Before tonight's episode it was something that was debated by readers. Considering that episode was written by Martin, I think we can accept it as canon.

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i was thinking, i know its milking it a bit or alot, but wouldnt it be awesome if they made a movie about Roberts Rebellion :P

burning of the starks, battle at the trident, battle of the bells, jaime killing the mad king, the three against seven at the tower... so many epic scenes!

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Tonights episode was a bit underwhelming, especially the scene with Jamie, Brienne, and the bear.

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Of course this scene would have been 10x better with Hoat and the gang, but we can't have it all.

I think Hodor doesn't get enough credit. Perhaps it's just among my friends, but I was talking about GoT Saturday night, and everyone was kind of making fun of his character As if he was a joke. Albeit he is a little slow, and can only say one word; but every time he delivers his "Hodor" it's done with perfection. He says everything in that "Hodor". It was even echoed last night with Osha.

Also not sure what it was, but last night episode flew by for me. I thought it was top notch for the most part...The whole bear pit wasn't pulled off well, I agree with what everyone else is saying.