Colorado passes Gun Control Laws

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Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

Never understood why people are so afraid of other who think differently than them. So small minded.

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I'm pretty open minded, but at some point, after you've developed your opinion and it is well outside of the prevailing opinion, it becomes very taxing to re-litigate for years. You only live once, why argue with people forever?

Has it resulted in some different opinions? Yes, that is generally what constant exposure does. In fact, I seek out cultural differences on a regular basis. The flip side is, I will occasionally find cultures that I love and cultures that irritate me.

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Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg

I'm pretty open minded, but at some point, after you've developed your opinion and it is well outside of the prevailing opinion, it becomes very taxing to re-litigate for years. You only live once, why argue with people forever?

Has it resulted in some different opinions? Yes, that is generally what constant exposure does. In fact, I seek out cultural differences on a regular basis. The flip side is, I will occasionally find cultures that I love and cultures that irritate me.

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So you are tired of feeling as if you may be wrong, thus you want to YOLO and stick to whatever half cocked ideas you currently hold. If you are a day over 38 I will kick myself in the butt but if not than you are the pathetic man I imagine you to be.

I know Kingwood.

It's your run of the mill upper middle class white neighborhood in the middle of the Houston metro.

Those people are right up your alley Tuff, and you know it. I'm not saying there is anything inherently wrong with being those things but the prevailing culture there is certainly one that distrusts governments and propagates American myths, no matter what state they are from.

I don't mean to badmouth you or attack you personally but don't play Kingwood off like some bastion of Northern Liberalism, that would be a lie.

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Originally Posted by Strike For The South

I know Kingwood.

It's your run of the mill upper middle class white neighborhood in the middle of the Houston metro.

Those people are right up your alley Tuff, and you know it. I'm not saying there is anything inherently wrong with being those things but the prevailing culture there is certainly one that distrusts governments and propagates American myths, no matter what state they are from.

I don't mean to badmouth you or attack you personally but don't play Kingwood off like some bastion of Northern Liberalism, that would be a lie.

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The street I lived on was all Airline Executives from the Northeast. I was 10 years old, I didn't get out of that Cul-de-sac much. Half of my friends are Irish, the other half were born all over the world - Afghanistan, Ecuador, Poland, Greece, Mexico, China. Kingwood with a bit more selection is right up my alley. The only people I don't get along with, long term, are American White Liberals. I like everyone else and get along with everyone else.

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So you are tired of feeling as if you may be wrong, thus you want to YOLO and stick to whatever half cocked ideas you currently hold. If you are a day over 38 I will kick myself in the butt but if not than you are the pathetic man I imagine you to be.

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At some point you need to make a decision. Either change ideals or change locales. I've had enough years here to realize that I'd rather change locales.

"if not, then you..."

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Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg

At some point you need to make a decision.

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No, you don't.

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No, you don't.

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Of course you do. This is how the migration of peoples has traditionally worked. People have some stress at point a, which leads them to develop the requesit amount of impetus in order to move somewhere else. Fortunately, my stressors are political and income related and not caused by famine, brutal government repression or a westward expanding Hun.

You must make the choice to stay or go. Fight, flight, or go weak in the knees and be overcome by an external pressure. Sometimes this pressure is a good thing, other times it is not so good. Many people were content with government repression of faith and thought in England during the 16th century. They stayed in England in large number. Those who left, ostracized, came to the New World in large number. The ideologies of the new world have largely eaten the lunch of the old world. That's not implied, but to break the hold of a poisonous culture you can leave it and start the multi-generational process.

So you're in favor of Mexicans who don't want to stay in the oppressive, adverse environment that is their current home and decide to move to the USA due to stressors that are political and income related? If everybody agreed to that, you wouldn't even need border controls, think of the money that would save. Do you applaud all Mexican immigrants for breaking the hold of their poisonous culture?

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Originally Posted by Husar

So you're in favor of Mexicans who don't want to stay in the oppressive, adverse environment that is their current home and decide to move to the USA due to stressors that are political and income related? If everybody agreed to that, you wouldn't even need border controls, think of the money that would save. Do you applaud all Mexican immigrants for breaking the hold of their poisonous culture?

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In a way, yes. I understand and empathize with people who cross the border illegally. In order to prevent bloodshed between citizens and immigrants, we have orderly
transitions and immigration policy. I am in favor of relaxing the restrictions of who and how many can come here, somewhat.

The USA restrictions are pretty tough. I have a Brazilian friend (female) who is engaged to an American (white) and they visit each other often and regularly. He works as a Firefighter and she is a talented Artist who earns 52,000+ easily per year (52k was based on side projects I know prices of..). So she has a big bunch of savings built up and her art is international, and always in supply (and got demand), the reason is her fiancée, and if she got her Green Card they were moving in together.

So job, house, money, everything is all in working order with a good logical reason to move there. They first met as he is interested in art and a novice artist himself, he came to view some work which she did, they exchanged emails, got talking, ended up falling for eachother and all that lot. Spent long periods of time together, still madly in love and stuff...

and yup, the Border Control rejected her application.

Seemed so illogical.

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Of course you do. This is how the migration of peoples has traditionally worked. People have some stress at point a, which leads them to develop the requesit amount of impetus in order to move somewhere else. Fortunately, my stressors are political and income related and not caused by famine, brutal government repression or a westward expanding Hun.

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It is not stressful to live with people who think differently than you unless you are a pig headed dip****. You are just a zealot.

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Many people were content with government repression of faith and thought in England during the 16th century. They stayed in England in large number. Those who left, ostracized, came to the New World in large number. The ideologies of the new world have largely eaten the lunch of the old world. That's not implied, but to break the hold of a poisonous culture you can leave it and start the multi-generational process.

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Everything about this paragraph is highly idealized or blatantly wrong. As soon as the first pilgrims landed in North America the first one to go against the flow suffered the same persecution as the whole in England. In reality it was never the difference in religion that made people leave England, but the absence of power. And that's all you want. Is to put yourself in a better position of power so you can dictate your zealous beliefs towards others. There is no stress in your life but the imagined stress of living as commoner with no say over other people. You are the opposite of what the US claims to be about.

I certainly am a zealot about some things. Your argument is to stay and change. I reject that argument. I firmly hold many of my beliefs and have never liked NY in the balance of like to dislike. I will try somewhere else. If wanting political influence is un-american, tell that to the millions who fight tooth and nail for it everyday. Nothing wrong with a bit of zealotry. In almost no areas do I tell people how they must live, as long as they are'nt killing people. Some have a brand of politics that does just that. I reject it.

zeal

[zeel]
nounfervor for a person, cause, or object; eager desire or endeavor; enthusiastic diligence; ardor

Nothing wrong with zeal, if you've got the energy. Passion isn't unamerican. If you mean that I am irrational or someone consumed improperly with zeal, I would disagree.

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Originally Posted by Lemur

And nobody pays any attention to the 3rd Amendment, which is just sad.

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It took me a while to remember, but some people actually do care about the 3rd Amendment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engblom_v._Carey

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Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg

You must make the choice to stay or go. Fight, flight, or go weak in the knees and be overcome by an external pressure. Sometimes this pressure is a good thing, other times it is not so good. Many people were content with government repression of faith and thought in England during the 16th century. They stayed in England in large number. Those who left, ostracized, came to the New World in large number. The ideologies of the new world have largely eaten the lunch of the old world. That's not implied, but to break the hold of a poisonous culture you can leave it and start the multi-generational process.

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Christianity
The Latin alphabet
English, Spanish, Portuguese, French

I just chose the most minor things. The entire western hemisphere is basically Europe-lite.