Why do you think he's innocent?Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
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Why do you think he's innocent?Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
Cause there buddies Sasaki. Going around killing the Villagers. Aren't you doc? Don't lie to me I know the truth.:whip:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
It Is A Warning To The Mafia!!! Here Is Your Chance To Kill The detective!!
Okay, I will help the mafia!
Vote: theRTWGuru
You can't do that you have to vote BG or DW RTWG. I don't know what your trying to pull but I doubt it will work. I think you may need :help:Quote:
Originally Posted by theRTWGuru
I have already admitted that my argument against DW was not water tight, but he's the one I suspect at this time, and hence I voted for him. I did not really expect many others to agree, (indeed, it works better for the town if everyone voices their own opinions), but I think it is important to suspect people, because if we all act super-nice to one another then that works to the mafias advantage. It's entirely possible that DW is innocent, but I recognized something which was suspicious to me, and thats how I voted. If no-one else felt the same, then he wouldn't be at risk of a lynch. On the other hand, some of those who voted for DW could well be the in mafia (bandwagon strategy), and likewise those who voted for Banquo's Ghost...Quote:
I don't see any logic at all in the case against divine wind...Masy seemed to accuse him mainly of joking around.
I don't think he would have inserted the reference and then pointed it out himself. Gut feeling I guess. It's pretty much the same as when I sided with Kage (iirc ?) against you when you both claimed to be the detective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Wow, you haven't played many mafia games before haven't you ?Quote:
Originally Posted by theRTWGuru
If they kill you at night, the village gains nothing. If they don't kill you, you have a good chance of getting hanged. If you claim to be the detective later, there's a good chance no one will believe you anymore.
Also, you have to vote for Divine Wind or Banquo's Ghost
Giving a red herring like Wanax or the hat with grapes is only useful if they actually point to a particular player. But you can’t drag such herrings out of thin air. The herring planter must have had knowledge of the Wanax or Wanaka and the connection with grapes beforehand.
BG could be such a knowledgeable player given his profession.
Are there any other players that could have had this knowledge? Any researchers for any of the mods in this game?
It could also very well be just a mafia trying to write a little story and the hat with grapes or wanax is part of that story. The second kill description indicates this. It could also be the invention of GH.
Devine Wind is claiming to have no time playing mafia… personally I would just jump on that bandwagon to help him not get fired in his new job.
Vote: Devine Wind
Just curious, is this rule a joke? Tons of people in this thread have based their entire arguments off of previous games.Quote:
Originally Posted by GH
Anyway, to get a vote in while I'm near a computer, Vote: Divine Wind
I just can't decide.:juggle2: I had pretty much made up my mind to follow Masy's lead, but now he himself is showing some doubt. Sasaki is adamant -- and has lodged 3 successive votes for BG. I guess I'll follow that lead.
Vote: Banquo's Ghost
I hope its on target....
Hmm... this is a tricky piece of evidence to figure out. I would still say that the fact he pulled that out simply because of the grape reference is very unusual. However, something strikes me about this not being something a mafioso would do. Also, I accused him before. I now believe Banquo's Ghost is innocent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Vote: Abstain
I think they're both innocent, and I'm finding it really hard to make a decision.
Vote: Divine Wind
BG adds more to discussion. Hypocritical reason, I know.
Voting over.
Stand by for the execution.
(anyone by any chance know what page the last status list was on?)
I make it 9-7 banquo.
Chief of Police Beirut yawned. Although the voting period had only taken the standard few hours, for some strange reason it seemed like days. Nevertheless, the voting had ended and the tie had been broken.
Banquo's Ghost had been chosen to get the chainsaw in the runoff vote. Somewhat reluctantly, Beirut called him up to the execution platform. Banquo groaned and deliberately did everything very slowly. After about a minute of this dawdling, he was finally pushed up to the platform by some angry villagers, led by Sasaki Kojiro.
"Banquo's Ghost, you have hereby been found guilty of murder and conspiracy to commit murder by the good people of the Frontroom. Your fate is sealed, but have you anything to say before you are executed?"
A sad look crossed Banquo's face. "No," he said simply.
Wow. The crowd certainly wasn't expecting that. He struck most of the villagers as the type to launch into a soliloquy at this time, but Banquo was done talking.
Beirut whispered something into his ear, and Banquo just shrugged. Sighing, the Chief of Police addressed the crowd once again.
"Here we execute another member of the Frontroom. Let's hope for all our sakes that he was a mafioso." Beirut looked like he wanted to say more, but didn't. Instead, he took out the chainsaw and quickly decapitated the condemned.
"Okay, that's all folks. Go home."
Here is the voting total for Round 2a:
Banquo's Ghost: 9 (discovery1, Divine Wind, Sasaki Kojiro, AggonyDuck, Csar, Reenk Roink, Husar, Destroyer of Hope, Seamus Fermanagh) :skull:
Divine Wind: 7 (Masy, Kommodus, Dutch_guy, doc_bean, Sigurd Fafnesbane, Proletariat, Craterus)
Abstained: 3 (Silver Rusher, Zalmoxis, theRTWGuru)
Didn't vote: 8 (Kagemusha, Don Corleone, Xiahou, Crazed Rabbit, Ignoramus, Drisos, Banquo's Ghost, God's Grace)
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Still alive: (26)
Seamus Fermanagh
Kagemusha
Craterus
Xiahou
Silver Rusher
Don Corleone
AggonyDuck
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
Proletariat
Csar
Reenk Roink
Sasaki Kojiro
Destroyer of Hope
Kommodus
Zalmoxis
Dutch_guy
Divine Wind
Sigurd Fafnesbane
doc_bean
Husar
Masy
discovery1
Drisos
theRTWGuru
God's Grace
Killed:
UltraWar
Sir Moody
Pannonian
Evil_Maniac From Mars
Executed:
Hepcat
Banquo's Ghost
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Prole: I guess. That was a rule I kept from the older games. It's kind of moot now.
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Hi guys,
Sorry I disappeared without a word like that. I went to my parents' house for the whole Thanksgiving week, and their internet provider wouldn't let me access the Forums for some reason. 'Just go to the library', one might say, right? Well, the problem is the 'house' I'm speaking of is my parents' lake house up in central Maine. Nearest town was 20 miles away, on back roads. So, I'll try to read up, catch up, and if there's anything I can offer, I'll share where I can. Thanks for your patience.
Kills will be up a little late (a couple of hours) today. Apologies.
Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. Save for the "click" noise being made every few seconds from one house.
Sasaki Kojiro was responsible for this noise. He had been making it all night, ever since he went back to his house after the extended execution meeting in the town square.
After a hard day’s work of talking so much in the villagers’ meetings so that no one else could get a word in, Sasaki went to his favorite recreational activity: taking pictures of himself. Sasaki wanted to be a model, and was set upon his goal, no matter that no agency had ever got back to him concerning his photographs.
So enamored in himself, he was blissfully unaware of the fact that his door was open and a shadowy figure was standing behind him.
When Sasaki ran out of film, the figure handed him a camera from behind: “Here, use this.”
Sasaki, still enamored in himself, did not realize the peculiarity of the situation, absentmindedly thanked the figure.
He had already snapped one photo by the time he realized what was wrong with this scenario. By then it was too late. Sasaki’s eyeballs had already disintegrated, and the deadly flash of the sabotaged camera was spreading to his brain.
“IDIOTIC FOOL!” the figure boomed, “YOU WILL NOT EVEN GET TO HAVE THE HONOUR OF GLIMPSING THE WANAX EATING HIS SACRED GRAPES BEFORE YOU DIE! SO HATEFUL WAS YOUR PATHETIC SPECULATION AND VAIN DISCOURSE CONCERNING HIM.”
Sasaki was beginning to lose vital functions, but the flash was slow acting, and so he suffered great pain as the Wanax continued: “IN FACT, EVEN THE WANAX IS UNCERTAIN CONCERNING WHY YOU ADDRESSED HIM INCORRECTLY AS “Wenax.”
“WAS IT AN INTENTIONAL INSULT OR ARE YOU JUST THAT STUPID?”
The voice of the Wanax calmed down: “Either way, your brain will serve you no longer.”
Sasaki was found dead in his home, lying among his many photos and mountains of film canisters and oddly enough, not one but dozens of the business cards found on the other murder sites. His face retained its natural colour, and was indistinguishable from when he was alive, except for the fact that his eye sockets were missing the eyeballs, and his skull was hollow. Nothing remained, not even ash.
Meanwhile, theRTWGuru was watching some old gangster movie. This was the fifth one he had seen since the killing began, which was odd since this was only the second day that he knew about the kills.
Guru wasn't sure about what he'd get out of all of these movies; perhaps there was a secret message in the films detailing how to defeat the mafia? As the movie finished, he still no ideas.
"Perhaps I need a more well-known movie to unlock this secret," he said to himself. "Now, what to pick... Aha! What better key than the one gangster movie everybody knows!" Smiling, Guru popped in The Godfather, pen, notepad, and popcorn handy.
As time passed by, he became more engrossed in the movie and the popcorn than the notes. You couldn't blame him; The Godfather was an excellent film! His favorite part was coming up. The tollbooth scene where Sonny died. Guru couldn't wait.
What he really liked best were the sound effects. He loved the sound of the many tommy guns firing, and breaking the class of poor Sonny's car.
--Hey - waitaminute! That breaking glass sounded real!--
Guru dismissed it as paranoia and began to settle back in. Sadly, however, he was dead wrong about the paranoia. The mafioso entered his house through the window, perfectly timed with the breaking windshield in the movie.
The mafioso was rewarded for his stealthiness by a totally unsuspecting Guru. He paused, aimed his gun, and double-tapped Guru behind the left ear. Certainly a much cleaner job than the massacre going on in the movie.
After checking to make sure Guru was dead, he removed one eyelid (that stupid Chief of Police had gotten it wrong - it was an eyelid, not an eye), and pinned a note to the corpse.
It simply read "John 16:24".
Later that day, Chief of Police Beirut gathered the remaining villagers in the town square. He was looking grimmer than ever.
"Gentlemen," he began, "the mafia have struck again. We must send them a message saying that WE - ARE - VIGILANT! Henceforth, the person with the most votes will be stoned to death. Obviously you are all invited to participate. Now get voting!"
Note to Sasaki: I'll tell you who to warn after the game ends. :hide: :tongue:
Vote: Ignoramus
Unvote: Ignoramus
Vote: God's Grace
Killing Sasaki was a stupid thing to do. Everyone knows (atleast everyone that has played mafia games for a while) that he gets more annoying after he dies :P Who ever did it was either a noob to the game or haven't played the game for a while. I don't think someone who has been playing the games lately would kill Sasaki it really a pointless thing to do. GG hasn't really played a Mafia game since GH's Mafia III.
Second point John 16:24 is obviously a quote from the bible. Now unlike other clues that have been posted this would have been hard to find the quote unless you know the bible pretty well. I don't know about alot of you but I don't read the bible alot and I don't know any lines from it. GG is a Christian a devoted one at that. That's not just coming from the name.
Killing Sasaki was foolish- he won't go away and we know now that he is innocent.
Could the Bible reference be a red herring, though? I don't think even The Spartan would post such an obvious reference to himself.
John 16:
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We need to decide if there are any relevant clues in there. GH has put clues in before.Quote:
Beirut whispered something into his ear, and Banquo just shrugged. Sighing, the Chief of Police addressed the crowd once again.
"Here we execute another member of the Frontroom. Let's hope for all our sakes that he was a mafioso." Beirut looked like he wanted to say more, but didn't. Instead, he took out the chainsaw and quickly decapitated the condemned.
Crazed Rabbit
You have to remember that every other clue up too now has been called a red herring. He could use that as an alibi. Why would he use something that would link to himself? He thinks that no one will think anything of it and just call it a red herring. I still have to point that someone with Bible knowledge would be the only one able to find a quote that would be logical in such an occasion. If it is a red herring then the mafia probably wasted alot of time searching for something that would make sense in such a situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
Hmmm...
In the name of Wanax I ask for the true identity of the the mafia to be revealed.
I think that this is a red herring. I think this is an attempt to frame GG. With a name such as his, it would be the height of insanity for him to do that. I am a Christian too, and I wouldn't post verses from the Bible in my kills if I was one of the mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Already answered. I find it hilarious that you went after the Wanax but the bible quote is a red herring.:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
I suspect Csar. Look at how his comments below don't make sense.
And then:Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
If it was so obvious, why post it? Here Csar indirectly points the finger rather lamely at GG. Saying that whoever did it was a noob or hadn't played in a while, and then nonchantly stating that GG hasn't played for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Csar would have killed UltraWar, because he knew that UltraWar was a good player. Then in the voting that followed, Csar followed Sasaki's lead almost every time.
What has happened is that Csar made Sasaki think that he was innocent and then killed him. He could not have killed Sasaki straight away, otherwise everyone would have suspected him. Thus he waits a few rounds, avoids suspicion, and then strikes.
Interesting theory on Csar, and he did post a vote rather quickly following Sasaki's demise.:inquisitive:
Still, voting that quickly is usually a bad idea for mafiosi, no?
And is the quotation a simple link to Grace, a ruse to frame him, or a "reverse stupid" ploy meant to throw us off the scent (the original use of red herring by the way).
Too early to decide yet....I think you're going a bit quick Csar. Why?
Voting analysis will follow shortly, now that we have three votes and some reductions in suspects.
You don't mean three "active votes," correct? Because so far only Csar has voted, if I'm not mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Here it is:
Persistent “inactive” voters (No votes/abstains)
All 3 votes: [note, the runoff is counted separately, even though there have been only two lynchings]
Don Corleone = 3 no votes (see earlier post)
Drisos = no vote, abstain, no vote
Inactive on 2 of 3 votes:
Craterus = no vote, abstain, Divine Wind
Crazed Rabbit = Reenk, abstain, no vote
Dutch Guy = abstain, no vote, Divine Wind
God’s Grace = no vote, Divine Wind, no vote
Kagemusha = Xiahou, no vote, no vote
Silver Rusher = no vote, Proletariat, abstain
Zalmoxis = no vote, Ignoramus, abstain
Observations:
* Sasaki (murdered night #3) is the only person to have voted for Banquo three times.
* Two people voted to lynch Divine Wind in the runoff after abstaining (Craterus) or not voting (Dutch Guy) in the primary vote.
* One person abstained in the primary and then voted for Banquo in the runoff (Roink)
* God’s Grace and Xiahou did not vote in the runoff after picking Divine Wind in the primary
Holy hell, that was an awesome death. Almost...spiteful.
Anyway, I was going to go after Kagemusha, Zalmoxis and Disco this round.
I'm suspious of Sigurd. If you noticed after the bandwagon on Banquo started Sigurd tryed to start a bandwagon on sasski, as if to try to save Banquo. Wouldn't this be a good mafia tactic? Start an bandwagon on a player who has always drawn fire from the crowd. Therefore:
Vote Sigurd
If I'm so suspicious Ignoramus why didn't you vote for me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
1.When did I say it was obvious Ignoramus? Huh when.
2.Who else would kill Sasaki? Most likely not a veteran of the last few games. If you kill Sasaki then you prove him innocent it's better for him to be alive so he could be used as a scapegoat at a later time.
3.Why would I kill an innocent villager that thought I was innocent? That could be a useful tool in the long run that would be a stupid thing to do.
I would not kill Sasaki ever in a mafia game for reasons I've already stated.
I don't know what your trying to pull Ignoramus but I've got my eye on you.
I was around and I had my suspicions if that makes me guilty then kill me off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Sad me and Sasaki have 50 posts. The closest person to us is Seamus with 25.
Ok I can think of 4 possible scenarios from these kills:
1) Spite. Banquo was mafia and they are getting back at me, they killed theRTWguru because he was insulting their intelligence.
2) They think I was the detective because of my persistance in pursuing Banquo
3) They are foolish and believed theRTWGuru and thought that killing me would be helpful
4) They are intelligent players and trying to appear foolish
All interesting options. I tend to think it's 3 or maybe a combination of 3&4. Honestly though, were I mafia I don't see how I could see my way clear to target Sasaki... many people don't give full weight to his comments because he may be mafia- now he has been shown innocent by his death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
It seems probable that they really thought RTWGuru was the detective and then decided to kill Sasaki since they believed he was shown innocent and therefore lynchproof. If this is a "reverse stupid", it's a very daring one. :yes:
It's possible they believed I trusted them and thus wasn't dangerous as a confirmed innocent. However I trust nobody...
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Originally Posted by Kagemusha
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Originally Posted by Kagemusha
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Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Ok, those are the set of quotes from this game. Now, comparison to Mafia 1 in which Kagemusha was a mafioso:Quote:
Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
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Originally Posted by Kagemusha
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Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Ironic that you have choosen to pursue lurkers, Kage, while you yourself only have 4 posts. Note that he has posted in other forums since then so he's lurking on purpose.
Kage was also a mafioso in age of darkness and you can see the same type of posting there. It is possible I suppose that you just happen to have the same posting style when you are innocent. But you have been lurking something fierce...trying to avoid attention?
Nope im here.Maybe i havent been so active becouse i have no role in this game.Or then i may just have been occupied with other things. I aimed the lurkers in the first rounds to get them in the game. Sasaki i wouldnt have killed you becouse you are so suspicious all together.~;) But its someone who has been playing active in the last rounds,since mostly the mafia just cant keep their mouth shut since they are enthusiastic about their role. So i vote Destroyer of Hope
Are you serious? How exactly has destroyer of hope been active?
He came out of nowhere and voted Sigurd riding on your innocence. If i would be mafioso i would do what necessary to connect myself to you in positive way now that you are proven innocent. This game is pretty much about intuition,becouse there is hardly any real evidence.Just hunches. If i would be Mafia you would have seen me posting atleast in almost every round,becouse lurking like you sayed raises suspicion and i wouldnt want to do that now would i?:no:
Yeah, but since you think mafia would be active if you didn't want to seem like a mafioso you would lurk.
There are always two sides in the coin. Only thing i can suggest to you is to try to step in my shoes and try to consider would have i played the game like the Mafia has? I cant prove my innocence you only have to trust your intuition.This time im not Mafia.~:wave:
Well those kills were unexpected ...
I think someone is trying to frame Csar by killing Sasaki, or Csar really did it, what other possible reason is there for killing Sasaki ????.
But killing RTWguru ? that's very odd, do we have any complete noobs in this game ? Is someone just trying to act like one ?
Well, if this was an effort to "silence" Sasaki, then the mafia is going :oops:
Can anyone think of anything guaranteed to increase his participation more?
Not getting any clear read from the voting pattern yet, though posting the list of inactives seems to have spurred some renewed voting participation.
Unblinking eyes, obscure scripture, ancient king references and this peculiar hat with grapes, I don’t know what to make of it all.
Are we still dealing with two Mafiosi? I believe so. Obviously the unblinking eye/bible quoting Mafioso is religiously inspired, whether to plant suspicion or telling a story.
As I told the people in the chat, that scripture reference is not a common verse, and involves a certain degree of training to dig out. The unblinking eye, the symbol of God or the creator, the symbol of seeing ultimate truths missed by mere mortals suggests that we are involved in some kind of story here; a story that could point to Reeink Roink. If it is only a false clue we are berry picking.
My first thought when reading Sasaki’s murder was; who would use bold letters like that and use variations of the word stupid? My first thought was Silver Rusher, but he wouldn’t kill off Sasaki this early.
I am wondering who would kill Sasaki this early. I could only come up with myself if I were mafia. It is a bold move to declare Sasaki as an innocent and only an experienced mafia would make such a daring move to see if he/she could win anyway.
Also, the original text used the word retard (clue from chat), I guess this is an American swear word? This leads me to think that the Mafioso is either British or from Europe. To us Euros the use of Idiot would be far worse than retard as idiot is a severe form of retardation. i.e. the greatest degree of mental handicap.
GH is helping the religious Mafioso in the kill descriptions ref. EMFM and the Vorgon poetry, theRTWGuru and the Godfather film. Did he plant the scripture reference as well? I believe he did.
So who is this pantomime Mafioso that needs GH to write his kills and who is this Extrovert Mafioso with the ambiguous sexual orientation (Grapes in the hat? Come on!!)??
Vote: Drisos
For now…
Can you confirm how much of the kills are written by you GH?
vote: God's Grace
The biblical stuff is pretty specific as has been pointed out. I'd see him killing Sasaki, and killing RTWGuru just to be sure.
Hm... couple of comments.
Guru's killer appears to have constructed the kill in such a way as to point to one of the following players:
1. Don Corleone
2. Silver Rusher
3. God's Grace
The reference to The Godfather could point to DC or Silver, while the reference to the Bible could point to DC or GG. (It could actually point to anyone who knows much about the Bible, including Crazed Rabbit, Xiahou, Kommodus, etc, but I think the above three are the primary targets.) Either the mafioso is trying to frame one of the above players, or he is trying to hide in plain sight. Based on past experience, I'd say the first option is more likely.
So who would try a frame-up like that? I think that either way we're dealing with an intelligent mafia team this time. I'm going to go with:
Vote: Crazed Rabbit
Hm... I actually have another suspect, but I'd like to wait for one more set of kills before I name him. Evidence is too scant right now, but after the next set of kills there will be more of it.
Well, if you're going to argue like that, you'd be a more logical choice Kommodus. Especially since you've been known to do the story thing.
About the vorgon poetry and the Godfather reference, GH told us in the chat that they were his constructs.
[edit]: I didn't know CR was a bible thumper... I know RR is... and who is this God's Grace again?
Formally the spartan. If he was mafia GH would undoubtedly write the entries because his english isn't good enough.
Reenkmaistro is a "bible thumper"? :inquisitive: :no:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
Can you show him where?
That destroys any credibility you had Sig, and it is quite suspicious you are making such a big deal of it...
Vote: Sigurd Fafnesbane
Edit: Actually, Destroyer of Hope is even more suspicious... He does come out of nowhere and vote for Sig. A known lurker...
Vote: Destroyer of Hope
Still, Sig, I want to know why you think me a "bible thumper"?
Too many suspicious people here...or am I just paranoid?
That's a little quicker to the draw than usual Reenk.
Hmm... If I vote for someone, I'm suspicious. If I abstain courteously, I'm suspicious. If I don't vote, I'm suspicous... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I considered voting for Kommodus too, or Seamus if he was trying to beat Kommodus' system. But then God's grace seemed like the safer bet for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
If I am not totally mistaken, I have seen your posts in some of the religious threads. And you do come over as a Christian apologist. Whether you 'know' your Bible (not in a biblical sense :sweatdrop: ) or not, I am merely guessing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
I do object when people try to use one anecdote or incident to smear entire religions and their followers (usually happens with Islam, but also Christianity) a certain way (this thread is a perfect example).
Anyway, it may be helpful to look at past posting on religion (this thread is good) to note people more likely to give away clues (like Silver searching the Monestary and EB forums for Thracian history buffs).
No. You're suspicious when you act different than usually. That hasty vote on Destro is quite out of character.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
I'm not sure I see the point in voting someone based on a kill that GH may have written. I also don't get the point about having to be a bible buff. I never held a bible in my life and I can go all Job 4:8 Leviticus 23:13 what have you. Or just flip it open to a random page and take that.Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
That bible stuff may be specific, but it is also easily googled. Anyone with a limited amount of bible knowledge or with a somewhat large imagination and time on his hands would be able to come up with something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
Now Killing Sasaki was a strange move, don't quite see the reasoning behind that one - as it has been stated before, a now proven innocent Sasaki will keep on participating on his usual level.
Now on the Killing of RTW Guru...well, it seems he did get the (probably unwanted) attention he was looking for - but to what end ?
He not only gave the mafia a reason to kill someone whom left little to go on, posting wise, but also removed a (self proclaimed) detective. That is, if we give RTW guru the benefit of the doubt on that one. Which I don't by the way.
In short, I find the kill's to be misleading, at best - I have rarely seen such a blatent framing move since AggonyDuck's succesful one by the mafia in game one.
Now, needless to say, it can be seen from the entirely different side. This could be done, on purpose, by a fairly experienced player. A dubble-bluff if you will.
Taking the latter into account, it is hard to vote. I'm tempted to vote Doc bean, he eagerly bought the frame (if it is one) stating it would be safer to vote for God's Grace and that said, I would not be surprised if he'd try to appear stupid just to fool us all. PLus, this isn't quite the posting style an experienced player like Doc would use to post his vote/accusation.
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vote: God's Grace
The biblical stuff is pretty specific as has been pointed out. I'd see him killing Sasaki, and killing RTWGuru just to be sure.
No vote yet, I'll vote based on the reactions I get.
EDIT: It seems I should learn to type faster, Sasaki beat me to some of the above ~:(
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Hasty?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Does not compute...
You usually wait for convincing evidence. There isn't any on Destro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
So, watcha think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
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Originally Posted by Zalmoxis
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I'd forgotten this game was going on, sorry. I'll try to be more active, so I'm gonna read back on everything that's happened so far.
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Alright, I had breakfast, and then read the whole thing carefully. So far, I'm still not sure. Divine Wind seemed a good candidate as a mafioso, but it's more likely that he doesn't have enough time to get fully involved with the game. Proletariat seems to be in the same situation, but if so she should start voting and accusing based on logical claims.
I thought I'd have to post an Abstain, but I remebered someone mentioning something that connected Craterus to wanax, so I went back to that page. I've read that post and those succeding it. Since the author of that post was not fully and thoroughly scutinized to be proven innocent I'm gonna say it was him.
Vote: Ignoramus
Hmm. You lurk until Seamus calls you on it. Then you drop a filler post excuses re-reading blah blah. I point this out so you have to make a follow up post, which jumps on a wagon because he "isn't proven innocent. Then you abstain in the revote.Quote:
Can't decide even after reading Sasaki's argument..
Vote: Abstain
You're the most suspicious kind of lurker, the kind who responds just enough only when prodded.
au contraireQuote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
DoH is exhibiting the same pattern of activity that he did in a game where he was mafia (and I correctly voted for him :wink:). Besides, if you read previous posts of mine, you will see that I am becoming wary of abstaining (courteously [:bow:]) due to the very reason that weak excuses for lynching are thrown against me. However, as you delightfully show, weak excuses need not be preceeded with abstention.
Vote: Destroyer of Hope
Well, I'm Catholic, but not extremely well versed in the bible. I would also not portray my mafia 'character' as a Christian.
The whole reference is probably a diversion - I don't think a Christian person would portray a Christian as evil. That is going off what I would do, though.
I'm confused right now. They killed Sasaki- proving him innocent, and they killed Guru, a relative newcomer.
So are they foolish, spiteful, or trying to appear foolish?
Crazed Rabbit
Thanks for summing up for me, Sasaki!:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Vote: Zalmoxis
:idea2: Isn't that redundant?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
...sorry, couldn't resist. Sr. Mary Tate would probably be upset with me for that. :laugh4:
Confirming some of the stuff I put in the kills:
Everything in the kills is mostly stuff put in by the mafia, but as previously mentioned, the Vogon thing and the Godfather scene were put in by me.
And the same pattern as every game he was innocent in. Your excuse for changing pattern may be genuine or it may not...that remains to be seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
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Originally Posted by doc_bean
Hmmm HMMMMM :guitarist:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
I vote with my gut, I said that before :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
Unless there really is a way to logically deduce who the mafia is, and I don't see that possible here yet. I've voiced my other suspicions so i don't know why you'd think I was trying to start a bandwagon (or whatever you thought I was doing).
Well if you were mafia you would be trying to start a bandwagon.
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Hmmm HMMMMQuote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
I'm having alot of fun doing this.
Unvote:GG
Vote:Ignoramus
Should have done that a long time ago.:guitarist:
Doc, can you confirm that you are voting for GG? I think I saw it quoted but I'm not sure.
Vote: Zalmoxis
For erratic behavior.
I think it's pretty clear that the biblical angle is an attempted frame-up, but I wouldn't want to guess who's behind it just yet.
Here's another one. Drisos, you're acting very strangely.
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Originally Posted by Drisos
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Exciting! Another chance to get my first run as mafia... I just hope I come out of the hat for once.
Only one in game post:Quote:
is that meant to me? what are you talking about?
Which contributes nothing. Not your usual behavior. What's up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Drisos
Why yes.Quote:
Isn't that redundant?
I see the suspicious eye has turned towards Zalmoxis, for good reason, it would seem. Lurking and then popping up only briefly...
Vote:Zalmoxis
Crazed Rabbit