I understand DC. Following the graffiti was a foolish thing to do and I realize it now. Hence I stopped my attack on Husar once I realized how foolish it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Hagen
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I understand DC. Following the graffiti was a foolish thing to do and I realize it now. Hence I stopped my attack on Husar once I realized how foolish it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Hagen
Zero Votes So Far:
Divine Wind, Dutch Guy
No Active Votes:
Husar [No L, DNV, No L], Ituralde [No L, DNV, No L]
Limited Active Voting:
JimBob [No L, Reenk, DNV], Kommodus [No L, Abs, Moody], Peasant Phil [DNV, DNV, Ichigo], Seamus [Abs, Reenk, No L], Sir Moody [Prole, Abs, Abs]
--Commentary:
DivWin and Dutch are prone to stretches like this, gets them wogged from time to time. Could be a cover, but if so its a plausible one.
The oddest thing about Husar and Ituralde is the exact parallel of their votes. Bloc voting is not safe mafia behavior (and hence mitigates against their guilt), but with Disco taking on the details of the kills to minimize accidental clues, it might not be as risky.
Seamus and Kommodus are usually more active in their votes, though when they do abstain/no lynch, it is in the early game before their analytical styles start turning up data relationships. Continuing in this vein, by either, would be suspicious. JimBob is usually pretty active in voting, so this is unusual for him, though Phil's missing a couple of votes is not out of character for him (he also tends to lurk a bit in the first round or two because he's been a murder victim early on in games too often).
Moody is indeed out of character. Abstain votes are a regular tool for him, but not during those phases when he's actively in the discussion or posting frequently. However, having just GM'ed his own game, his style may be evolving -- a plausible point.
Ichigo's defense when under pressure last round is suspect. The tone of his posts and his readiness to counter-punch in different directions with different posts are symptoms of a active role under pressure. Some of the dead have asked us to lay off of him though, so it is possible that we're wasting time and barking up the wrong tree.
RE: Graffiti
We are going to have to dig into this a bit more. Whatever the cost in confusion, approximately half of the messages will be intended to assist the town in its hunt. Sasaki is a crafty fellow, and he is setting this up as a prime link -- and is fully capable of editing out any other clues to force us into his games designed framework. So let's start some lit-crit efforts.
How wrong you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Hi there people.
I am on PDA for the rest of the weekend.
Needless to say, my chat participation will be limited.
So let's get this started I guess. The No from Sasaki was caused by me. I am the soothsayer.
I received the following PM by Sasaki before the first round:
Then I sent this PM to him during this night phase, the entailing question has been answered above by Sasaki.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
So this means that the short messages were written by the Masons indeed. This is not the exact result I had hoped for, because those messages can be easily forged by the Mafia in the future. Still It's something to go on and should let us forget some of the confusion caused by them. Unlike Sigurd I'm not of the oppinion that the source of the messages was clear so this was the most useful question I could think of.Quote:
Originally Posted by PM
I already pointed at the possibility in my last thread and to be frank, I was getting more and more afraid of being killed by the Mafia, which would have rendered me useless.
I'm sure that conclusion will help the town as we know have a clearer link to the masons and they should be able to communicate better with us.
Have a good night and see you tomorrow!
A very interesting turn of events.
Ituralde's reveal does seem genuine to me - he is confirming what I suspected and it looks a lot like Sasaki's Detective PMs to me from previous games. Also, there has been no challenge of his reveal so by default it looks like he's the real thing.
I do wish he had asked a better question; all this does is give us the names of a few innocents (I will not repeat them here in case the mafia are thick or haven't cracked the code yet).
With this information, I do have a couple of suspects but will wait for the kills to post anything.
Alas, what a waste of your question. :no:
Don Corleone was returnig home from work one evening, when suddenly a large man with long blonde hair and a red beard leaped out from behind a tree holding a large club. SMACK! With one heavy blow to the head, the lights went out…
…when he came to, he quickly realized two things. First, he couldn’t move. Second, he was moving. He was stapped to a raft that was floating down the river outside of town. As he tried to collect his wits, he realized he was headed straight for a…
…WATERFALL! Moments later, the raft went over the edge. Yeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhh! screamed Don as the raft plummeted over a hundred feet. If he was going to die, this was a a really fun way to go!
...but it was not to be, as the pool at the bottom of the water was deep. Don came up spluttering, no longer tied to the raft. He was alive! Or so he thought, until he felt a painful bite, then another ad another…
…PIRANAS! Don started swimming as fast as he could towards the shore. The fish were ferocious, but so was his will to live, and soon he stood, dripping and bleeding, on the shore. I’m alive! he said to no one in particular. He started walking back towards down. After a few steps he heard a sharp CLICK beneath his feet. One second later, a network of dozens of land mines exploded, blowing him to smithereens.
***
Divine Wind was also found dead in his house, it appears he has committed seppuku.
Killed (6):
Caius Flaminius
Kagemusha
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Warluster
Masy
Don Corleone
Lynched(1):
Reenk Roink
Suicide(1):
Divine Wind
Alive: (19):
discovery1
GeneralHankerchief
Proletariat
Dutch_Guy
Jimbob
Seamus Fermanagh
Xiahou
AggonyDuck
Sir Moody
Peasant Phill
Ituralde
Husar
doc_bean
Kommodus
Sir Boo
Ultrawar
Al Khalifah
Ignoramus
Ichigo
Begin voting.
Vote:GH
For reasons stated before.
Ok, GH has some explaining to do.
Here's the chatroom screenie for those who weren't there:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Lenin was the name discovery1 was using in the chat... it would seem they were having a little conversation on the side there. :stare:
vote:GH
Vote: General Hankerchief. I should have known would be one of the mafia.
I'm not sure that's allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
My reasoning for voting GH is as follows:
Disco was PMing someone yesterday so I went back and looked at all the people online during that time. It was between GH and Jimbob so I watched Disco for a while. Then went back and looked at the online users and Jimbob was gone so it was down to GH was the only one left so right after Disco finished PMing I went and looked at GH's profile. Not a minute later GH's profile showed him PMing. Once I found out he was finished I went back and watched Disco's profile. A few minutes later Disco was PMing again. Hence the reasoning for my vote.
It's ok. Unlike pm's, chatlogs can't be faked, because there are witnesses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
I cleared it before posting. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Interestingly, the same phenomenon occurred later as well, except this time it was:I also grabbed a screenie of that, but am too lazy to crop/upload/post it atm, but I will if it becomes necessary to do so.Quote:
*** GH has signed off IRC (Quit: Ichigo)
I assume this means Ichigo and GH were also chatting. Can anyone explain why that message shows up in chat? Regardless, my vote stays.
And what time exactly was this Csar? I do believe Ignoramus should be able to explain me PMing, or yourself for that matter, if I remeber the time correctly.
Yesterday 4:35 around that time. You can't expect me to remember exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by discovery1
Why does it matter unless your trying to defend your own mafioso Disco? You screwed yourself by posting that.
I can actually, since I sent you a PM around that same time. You and Ignoramus, and Hepcat but he's not playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
I was wrong and editted my post to show that. It was around the time I posted thisQuote:
Originally Posted by discovery1
Well now looking at the evidence posted by Xiahou and Ichigo. I do indeed believe that GH is a mafia so therfore...
Vote: GeneralHankerchief
Vote:GeneralHankerchief
My first prediction seems right..
Looking at the evidence posted by Xiahou as I can't believe Ichigo for various reasons. GH is guilty.
vote:GeneralH
for chatting in private rooms :inquisitive:
I must say that kill/message wise, this has been an interesting night. Only one successful kill and no messages from either the masons or the mafia. So I bet that the masons have managed to stop yet another murder attempt. So how come there was no message from the masons this time? Maybe the masons don't have such an easy access to information as we had previously thought.
Anyway to my vote. GH is definately looking guilty and that's definately enough for me.
Vote: GH
To add to what has been said, remember this?
That was posted right after round 1, when the only graffiti message was from the mafia - as we now know thanks to the soothsayer. Trying to build some credibility for your team's false clues, eh General? :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I've still got my eye on Sir Moody, but you were also on my short list of suspects, buddy. Though nice job trying to match your past behavior. :yes:
Vote: GeneralHankerchief
Okay, so the mafia wants a fight? Well, bring it on. Since they can't kill me (this is the second time they've tried, with no luck) they're forced to lynch me in order to take me out of the game. Well, it's not going to be that easy, guys.
So, after barely surviving a lynch vote in the first round, I receive this PM around the same time the one kill is posted:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
And then, I received this when the one kill was posted last night:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I think, by the one kill last night, the mafia realized that they had stumbled upon an unkillable role, so they put Plan B in action. I must say, it's working rather splendidly. I mean, you get the classic bandwagon-followers, Ignoramus and AggonyDuck, who have done nothing this game but vote with the crowd, against me, so that's two. You get the mafia of course, Ichigo and Xiahou against me (that screenshot is clearly doctored, did you see the weird area around Quit:Lenin?), and their boss, Disco, is even stepping in to defend me. And by the way, that whole PM thing is a load of crap. Does Ichigo have any evidence? Any screenshots? No, he just says "I saw GH PMing, lynch him!" It's working marvelously, you sheep. Congratulations. World-class effort, guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
And let me guess. After I die the mafia are going to go to one kill per round so that the guys who voted for me (even those that did nothing but bandwagon) will pat themselves on the back and go "good job, we got ourselves a bad guy lynched."
So yeah, vote for me if you want. I, however, will finish the job that Ichigo tried to do on me twice and that I almost did on him last round before Sigurd stupidly convinced me to do so otherwise.
VOTE: ICHIGO
I don't really know what to think about Xiahou's screenshot. The quite message can be typed in whenever you quit and can be set in certain programs to a standard message in Trillian it's a link to the Trillian homepage by default but that doesn't mean you had a private conversation with the Trillian homepage, does it? Maybe some programs write the priivate conversations in there but we should verify that instead of just assuming it.
Now there is disco jumping in to defend GH somehow. While that would usually make me vote for GH I just took the emergency brake since the mafia tries to make certain people look suspicious with the graffity already. That means disco might jump to aid GH only to get him lynched.
The problem is that disco in his almighty evil position can play with us and we gain nothing at all from it. The chatlog doesn't convince me yet, I want to hear what GH has to say before I do anything.
Very, very interesting.
Food for thought, that *GH's reveal I mean !*
The reveal looks real, but it does come at a time where a reveal usually is the only way out. Plus, the descriptions in the PM's fit your writing style better than they do Sasaki's, plus you do have it in you to forge such PM's. It wouldn't be the first fake reveal now would it.
As said, we should think about it - but to change votes with little thought isn't good either !
:balloon2:
a'right
unvote:GeneralH
vote:Csar
Not buying it this time, GH. :no:
As he has repeatedly said (and as experience makes clear), Sasaki is not much of a writer. I highly doubt he'd send you PMs like that just to tell you that you were attacked when he barely ever even writes a kill/lynch story.
Um, no. :inquisitive: After examining it closely, it looks legit to me. If it's fake that's one heck of a forgery.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Even if the chat log, my method's predictions, and various other pieces of evidence weren't convincing, your fabricated defense rubber-stamps it. My vote stands.
I was wondering why you took so long to defend yourself, but now I know why.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I'm sure you've had this planned out from the beginning. Why would the mafia try to kill you twice in a row if you didn't die the first time? That would be dumb and they'de know that you had some special role that couldn't be killed.
Your contradicting yourself GH. If I attacked you during the second round then how is it possible that I attacked you again in the third? Your evidence has many holes in it. I guess because you weren't ready to false reveal this early. Come back when everything from your reveal is in order then maybe you'll have a chance.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAQuote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
You attempted to kill me in the SECOND round, and then again in the FOURTH round.
4-2=2
Dear god, Disco must be killing himself right now. He picked a mafioso that repeatedly goes after the same person even without little success (ever heard of a doctor, buddy?) and can't even do math.
Oh, and by the way, Kommodus, how do we know that you're not just fudging that list? It would be mighty easy to just pretend that someone is guilty, especially if you consider someone a threat.
Kung fu master? while sasaki has been known to make strange roles up in the past i think that one is way too out there and it doesnt disprove the other mounting facts - General H is also a fine choice for a mafia henchman since he is arguably the most experianced player here
Vote General Hankerchief
time will tell but im as sure as i can be hes a mafia
I know there is no doctor in this game. My bad with the math I didn't go back and count the rounds. Though there's one flaw in everything in that PM. Disco is the one that writes and sends in the PMs to Sasaki.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
You seem sure of yourself with that evidence, don't you? I know why! Because you suggest to Disco who a good target would be! You probably think I got protected by a doctor or you got blocked by a Thief, decided to take a round off, and then persuade Disco to try your luck again!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Your wrong with that one if I couldn't kill you the first time I wouldn't go after you again. Also look back at that last post I edited some of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Well, we don't know that, do we? That's just the thing with saying "no, I would have done it this way" AFTER it happens. It's a bit late, isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Also:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
How can you possibly be sure? MAFIOSO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
The evidence seems to be piling up against both Ichigo and GH. At the moment it seems to be one word against another so I propose we take action against both players. I say that this round we lynch GH and next round we lynch Ichigo. Its the only way we can be sure that we have got a Mafia at the present time.
Ichigo?
How do you know there is know doctor in the game?
And how do you know that Disco sends in the pms?
No everyone else doesn't know except for me, you and your mafioso buddies.I can't. It would just seem so stupid if Sasaki did something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Just something that I doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Boo
If you look at the last two kills. The orange haired and orange bearded person is an obvious referral to himself. I just put two and two together.
Killing me would be a bad thing for the town since I have an ability that will surely help the town.
"Well, what's the ability?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
"I can't tell you."
"Why not?"
"Because it would be bad for the town if I told you."
"Then why should we believe you?"
"Because I have an ability to help the town."
:laugh4: At least I told everyone my ability. What's the matter, Ichigo? Can't think of a good role quickly enough?
So Kage why aren't you posting? Your usually more active. You hiding something?
Oh, nice dodge. Are you even going to bother answering me now?
EDIT: Waitaminute, Kage is dead! He bought it in the first round! :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
Im here reading.Thank you for asking Ichigo. My personal opinion based on the the conversation is to lynch Ichigo now and prepare to lynch GH if plausible.:bow:
Whenever someone is protected and the mafia try to kill them I get a PM telling who was protected and who the mafia member was that tried to kill them.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Forgot about that Kage. Sorry.
:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Uh-huh.
And tell me, where are the PMs? Apparently, it takes some time to produce them, especially when you have to write them from scratch.
lol, you should know GH, now guys as i said before LYNCH GH THIS ROUDN THEN ICHIGO NEXT!Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Then we are bound to get a mafia...
Why copy the PM when I could just take a screenshot of it?Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Nice try. Keep writing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Shades of Sasaki v Kagemusha!
Vote: Ichigo
Note, I subscribe to Boo's suggestion of a paired offing as the safe ploy, I'd just do it in the other order.
Ichigo:
Your earlier disjointed defense is now augmented by a choppy reveal, done in bits and pieces. This is often a sign of FABRICATION rather than reluctance.
You made a good point about "why would I try twice were I mafia" but again it was choppy -- silly rounds error -- and given the track record of doctors who do not protect one target throughout, not an absolute defense anyway.
General:
Just how in heavens name do you believably fake such chat logs? If you can demo this for me, then the game is over as Ichigo, Xiahou, and Kommodus become rapid lynch bait -- that log is the central piece of voodoo agin you.
Your reveal is smoothly done -- but that would be true of you in either case -- and I do believe Sasaki would put such a role in play. The weakness is Ichigo being named in the aftermath of the 2nd attack. I have trouble buying it.
My gut leans toward Ichigo being "dirty," but the wagon against you is impressive and you haven't demonstrated the problems with the central evidence against you.
For now, Boo's choice -- one pro-town role for one mafia -- seems safest as it more or less guarantees us only one murder per night among other things.
heheheQuote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Like I've said the entire game I have no role.
You know he won't tell, and only a mafioso 'd try and make him. That is, if he has a role of any kind of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Oh wait, it seems he did explain the supposed role.
:balloon2:Quote:
Whenever someone is protected and the mafia try to kill them I get a PM telling who was protected and who the mafia member was that tried to kill them.
Removed.
I have reconsidered and persuaded to chance my mind.I suggest to vote GH.
:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Well... it seems you got caught there GH.
nah... they will be forced to do only write one kill since we got you.Quote:
And let me guess. After I die the mafia are going to go to one kill per round so that the guys who voted for me (even those that did nothing but bandwagon) will pat themselves on the back and go "good job, we got ourselves a bad guy lynched."
And the one kill this round was not because of your made up role.
It will not enter the Hall of Fame...
Let’s say I orchestrated a little trap this night, setting up the mafia to attempt attacking a player. This player was protected by a role which has the ability to protect one player a night.
I see the mafia went straight into this trap by attacking this player.
This puts your reveal in a bad light GH, hence I am certain you’re lying.
And I was there in the chat with Xiahou as you can see in his transcript. I too saw the untimely quit.
It seems you had bad luck GH… I have tried to recreate that quit of yours.. and I was able to only ONCE..
That was when I was logged in via Firefox and had two conversations going with another client of mine.
It seems killing Kage and voting 3rd on a bandwagon is a CURSE.
Also when I asked Disco about the one kill in the chat.. He obviously hadn’t read Sasaki’s post and was quite upset.. Lot’s of swearing and the like.
It seems to me that you are one of Disco’s mafia. If you are then I am inclined to think that he has followed a rather obvious choosing. If the mafia hadn’t killed Don I would have put him on the list of possible mafia along with Kommodus and Seamus.
Kommodus seems too eager to survive. Husar proposed a brilliant move in one of his earlier posts, but was shot down quite abruptly by Kommodus and that sounded desperate in my ears.
Players that are too eager to survive have a role. The only advantage a living townie has over a dead townie is the ability to vote. A townie should have no problem giving his life to the good cause. This good cause is to ensure Mafia failure.
Why do it in the other order? GH's PM is obviously fake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
I'm sorry for not joining up all my defensive posts into one big one my bad.:sweatdrop: As you can see I'm not going to post the PM from Sasaki because that would put at risk the player I know is innocent plus a couple other ones.
GH also tried to tell me why it said PMing at that moment that I said earlier, but I see he hasn't used that as an excuse.
Just to prove that chatlogs can indeed be doctored.
Here is the exact same screenshot as Xiahou took. Aside from one difference. See if you can spot it.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Lynch Ichigo. Then Xiahou.
So desperate your attempt. It still doesn't help the fact that none of your PM's would match any Sasaki would write.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Now that's speculation. That doesn't match proof. Proof being that chatlogs can easily be doctored.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Ah go look back at kills that Sasaki has written as well as any PM's for roles he's given out. He never goes into much detail your PM's don't match his writing style.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
You must've put alot of effort into that. Too bad we have witnesses to the chatlog. :yes:
edit: I had wondered if we were making too much of the chat message, but it's quite clear you're mafia now.
I'm sorry, that argument holds no water. Sasaki can and has written before, he just doesn't do it very often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Examine his Shimazu 1530 campaign AAR:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=67768
And also, Gotta Have More Mafia. He attempted to write stories for that and it looked pretty good in the first round before he abandoned it.
Now, compare that to the types of kills that Sigurd sent in as Chinese Godfather:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Actually, the only kill that really had meat on it was mine, but it was still nothing compared to what Sasaki wrote for the first round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
You're out of arguments, dude.
Not really. Just because he did doesn't mean he does it anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Evidence:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...7&postcount=44
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=108
That's his most recent game besides this one. If he doesn't put that much effort into expanding his kills then why would he do it to a PM to just one person. Highly unlikely.
Just got caught up after a few busy days. Surprised GH was undone in such a bizarre way, but that chat screen shot and his reaction to it is damning.
Vote:GH
Long time no see Prole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proletariat
I bellieve it is obvious who the mafia is now, GH has dug himself into a bigger and bigger hole, before i bellieved we would have to lynch them both but now the evidence against GH is simply endless... We must ask a few simple questions?
Why is GH so determined to incriminate Ichigo?
Why does GH protest to the length that his argument with Ichigo spanned more than one page?
Why diddnt he reveal sooner if he could only be killed at night? - It would have given the townies an unkillable INOCENT person which is a big advantage however the role is obvously fake...
Because Sasaki told me he was mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Boo
Because I don't want to be lynched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Boo
Because I didn't want the mafia to try to get me lynched. Better they just kept trying to kill me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Boo
(on pda)
@GH: hahahahahahaha
You are so full of it.
Alright playes, take this from an confirmed innocent player:
I was there in the chat with Xiahou. I am the spammer in that screenshot called Dragonslayer.
I too called out the obvious in that chat wheb GH got an untimely quit. he obviously had a private conversation going with Lenin who was Disco.
why deny it GH? you could just given an explanation of why you had that conversation.
now you pull the 'I never had that conversation, it must be doctored' card.
Damned if we got one of the mafia this round.
Sigurd
SIGURD! WHAT DOES YOUR WIFE SAY ABOUT YoU POSTING WHILE OUT!?
A lot has been happening and unfortunately no new graffiti, rendering my question somewhat useless. I'm still glad I did it though. It was my first role and it really makes you itchy the first time you have one. I really was afraid of being lynched and then biting my own ass, because I didn't use my ability.
Mhm... I'm gonna go with GH this round. Maybe Ichigo next, although I have some information that makes him an unlikely Mafia.
Vote: General Hankerchief
While I am inclined to believe you there are two things that make me wonder:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
1. You are quite keen on mentioning your confirmed innocence IMO, makes me wonder whether you had some role to help the mafia and got killed nonetheless(maybe an evil plan to lead the town astray, mafia can't kill mafia but maybe they can kill the corrupt politician or so?)?
2. GH has proven that screenshots can be edited, especially text on a mono-coloured background, if he hadn't done it, I'd have tried it myself.
Besides that, I have never seen such quit messages where the name of someone else is shown, makes me very sceptical.
In the hope to show up in Seamus' statistics again and maybe even in Kommodus' calculation, I am going to
Vote: Abstain
I want something that makes sense to me to base my vote on, almost all the Evidence" I have seen here, no matter by which side, could just as well be created.:wall:
I have received a request to extend voting. Voting temporarily extended, I'll give a more concrete figure once I have some more information.
After going through all the evidence again, closely examining the individual posting styles and comparing them to posts dating back all the way to 1846 I came to the following conclusion based on our current chat session:
Unvote: Abstain
Vote: discovery1
Excellent choice Husar.
Vote:Discovery1
In other news:
Sigurd using the 'OMG YOU ARE DEFENDING YOURSELF JUST LIKE A MAFIA WOULD' line of reasoning in the chat:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Damn this looks bad. Maybe I will post a better one latter. In any case, trust no one. Even your greatest champions, even in death, may in truth want to only save you so they can sell you into slavery.
Edit: How do I post spoilers?
spoilers added--Sasaki
In the background you can see Hankerchief64 in the recent buddies. I love how your bringing your own mafioso down.Quote:
Originally Posted by discovery1
You said the EXACT same thing in the chat Csar. You gotta work on your originality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
I copy and pasted it into the chat.Quote:
Originally Posted by discovery1
Weak dude weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Anyway.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_%...%29#Variations
So Sasaki, did you include a cult?Quote:
Cult Leaders can recruit at night instead of kill; therefore they act as an independent faction from both the Innocents and Mafia, usually with the ability to talk at night.
I can't say.Quote:
Originally Posted by discovery1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
You don't say.
Thanks for the spoilers.
Do you think disco would post a screenshot here that gave away his mafioso?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
This way he could subtly make us lynch GH especially because you directly jump on it. IMO this gives GH a bit more credibility, he could just chat with disco for another reason, mafia games are not the sole thing in life people can chat about.
But since I can't really know and there is no real evidence either way, my vote stays.