I kept pressing refresh actually instead of going to sleep:grin:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
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I kept pressing refresh actually instead of going to sleep:grin:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
YES!, that was a dramatic read! Nice write up. I really didn't know what the second read was going to bring. Enjoyed it very much and an excellent win.
Congrats on your win. I hope when the Mongols come they will bring more battles like this one
well i have 1.0 but if i dont play any battles does it make a difference? it seems like nongeneral avatars dont do much but pass edicts as electors and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
if i have any choice, can i be in austria, and like a priest, diplomat, merchant? i want to live a while if theres no one else waiting to get in
You're very welcome to join the House of Austria as an Elector gibsonsg91921. We have had a lot of experience with avatarless players in the past, so that should be no problem. If you consider Austrias mercantile focus you can always choose to take a merchant as your avatar. Be advised though, that he could be driven out of business quite easily.
Either way I would be glad to have you on port as one more member of the happy Austrian family. Just look at Northnovas and AussieGiant, they're doing a pretty good job without havin an avatar!
The History is now updated with the latest events. If you want any events added, and I'm always looking for suggestions, let me know.
When I was reviewing recent events, I found it funny that Ulrich Hummel is now the Count of the town he exterminated. I'm sure there was much celebration in Metz when they learned who their new master was. :whip:
You go you good thing Econ!!
Kipper smoked, would you like tea and scones with those? :laugh4:
And the 100% ratio continues gentlemen!! I was truely surprised Econ pulled that one out of his trousers.
Fantastic write up also.
I wonder how much more dramtic we can make this game?:yes:
alright, ill be a merchant elector of austria. whats my name and am i the eigth elector, ninth, etc?
Well I took the challenge and fought econ's battle. First two waves were surprisingly easy and they routed very quickly. Almost too quickly for my taste. After running them down, I noticed that wave 3 was idling on a hill and doing nothing:
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I waited a few minutes and then sent off my captain-general turkopoles to try and lure them down. It worked to some extent but each time they'd stop again. I'm suspecting its the attacking passive AI culprit bug coupled with "I have siege equip so I will stand and wait for you" AI decision. As you can see in the next screen, they go dangerously close to my lines but after taking a few shots retreated back into a valley.
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Since my turkopoles lost about 50 men luring them, I didn't want to risk losing the captain general and sent my pavise crossbows forward to shoot down his cav, hoping that would entice him. As you can see it didn't...
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Well I got bored once the timer started running down and decided to stop shooting them and rush them with all I got instead. Almost the moment the lines touched, they mass routed. Chased nearly all of them down and got a clear victory:
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Egypt also ended up accepting my ransom of ~13k
Do you mean that Thorn is currently under seige?Quote:
[OOC: Dutch_guy is having computer problems, so Thorn would have to be an autoresolve.]
I know DG was thinking of making me count of Thorn but haven't seen him in a couple of days now (mostlikely due to those problems).
Great being count of a seiged city :furious3:
Second Chancellor's report is up. Overknight, Henry's taken a pop at Duke Otto but it is all in character, of course. ~:grouphug:
One general point: I will be posting annual savegames; people are free to PM me in character with a request if they want their avatar to be doing something he's not. This is particularly true for commanders of Household Armies. There are lots of tricky strategic decisions that may arise and to keep things moving, I will not be consulting people about them unless they are nail-biting. However, I will listen to approaches made to me and do my utmost to accomodate player's wishes for their avatars.
gibsonsg91921, welcome to the PBM. I strongly recommend patching M2TW. Firstly, the patch vastly improves your solo games (the passive AI bug, and the shield bug were both game killers for me). Secondly, I don't think you will be able to load our savegames if you don't patch. You don't have to load them, but you will get more out of the PBM if you do - for example, you can give suggestions about your avatars movement. If you want an Austrian merchant, I will allocate to you Maximillian von Tyrolia - he is the highest acumen of the 3 merchants (and 3 priests) that are to be sent on a trade mission. You get to choose where to send the mission - to deepest Africa or to North Egypt? I think the former would be more fun and also may have less rapacious merchants to buy you out.
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I think you are the 5th Elector of Austria, although that title is redundant - we are just going to call you Maximillian von Tyrolia. Or (Mad?) Max II for short.
[b]PS: Parnakes - I did not get a reply from you to my PM and so am taking silence to mean consent. Elberhard is still heading to the east; he can switch to travel home with Jonas if silence does not mean consent!
excellent
i am dying to patch it as soon as possible, however my its my moms computer (lol) and she is wary of the necessities of a 650 mb patch that may take hours to download.
Maximillian von Tyrolia, 5th Elector of Austria - nice ring to it
Hey Econ or someone else.I havent yet patched my game to 1.02 and could someone tell me where the fleet carrying Jonas Von Mahren currently is?I would need this information to write a little story.:yes:
Hi Kagemusha: in 1202 Jonas's fleet blockaded the Venetian port of Rhodes. In 1204, it is off south Greece. I am wondering whether to send the Austrian fleet of 5 ships to escort you in - there are Venetian ships in the area. But the Austrian fleet is waiting for the merchant expedition next turn, so I am inclined not to do so. If Jonas is forced to make landfall in non-German land, it might add to the fun.
PS: If Warluster or Stuperman can turn around a quick battle, they should post here.
Thanks Econ21.Maybe we should indeed throw Jonas into hostile territory so he could try his luck to go through it or die trying.If you can ship him to safe area i dont mind but going through hostile territory could become intresting.:smash:
WHat save is it? Is it the 1200-end one?Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
Thanks for the PM, Warluster: contact me again when you have installed 1.2 and I will upload a new savegame for you.
If Stuperman logs on, just to say Gerhard Steffen is still besieging Corsica, but I have now got cold feet about him assaulting it. It is guarded by three DFKs and a general, but the BHA has no DFKs (hence the bit about needing to upgrade our Household Armies). I am inclined to starve it out until the BHAs reinforcements of DFKs arrive, as personally I would not like to fight DFKs in a town with just spearmen. However, I will defer to the Overknight and/or Stuperman on that. They can check the save to assess the situation for themselves.
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/1206-1.zip
I had to jump to 1206 to try to get Warluster his battle (I moved him into contact with some rebels in 1204 without realising that could exhaust his movement points and stop him attacking). I will post a report for 1204 asap.
EDIT: Time moves on: it's 1208 now.
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/1208-1.zip
If Warluster can successfully patch his game, fight the battle and upload a save before 4pm Sunday UK time, then I'll accept it. Otherwise I will keep playing and pass him the save when I've done all I can in 1208.
FURTHER EDIT: There's a potential problem with my playing further ahead than where we are in character. For the purposes of public debate, let's keep it at the end of 1202. Things people learn from the savegames and in character PMs should be kept private for now. We should have a period of grieving for Max before moving on. I'll try to keep the Chancellor reports and savegames more in sync from now on, it's just that weekends are my big chance to play.
Between Econ and OK the pace has been brisk to say the least.
I certainly can't keep up :no:
Sorry, AussieGiant. There's a potential problem with my playing further ahead than where we are in character. For the purposes of public debate, let's keep it at the end of 1202 (which is what you have a Chancellor's report for). Things from later dates that people learn from the savegames and from in character PMs should be kept private for now. We should have a period of grieving for Max before moving on. I'll try to keep the Chancellor reports and savegames more in sync from now on, it's just that weekends are my big chance to play so I want to crack on.
My personal preference is that reigns should only last a week or two (when Tincow and I played pre-WotS PBMs, we'd often get through a reign in a weekend) Now with the WotS style PBM such a rate of progress is clearly impossible if you get masses of battles like Overknight had. So far, in all of 1200, 1202, 1204 and 1206, I think there's only been a total of four battles. Henry the Peaceful shall be my epitath.
It's not too much of a problem Econ. I just suddenly realised I was having time space distorted discussions :)
It 2:00 in the morning mate...you really are "cracking on". And me replying to you is no excuse. I'm in South Korea so it's 10am on Sunday morning ;-)
I certainly prefer the brisk level of progress and it seems the lack of battles is the determining factor. I get the impression your 3 way body slam of the Egyptians has clearly taken the wind out of them. I really did not think you were going to come out of that alive...you put yourself in the thick of it repeatedly!! I liked it!!
No, it's not - I'm being cautious. Thorn is too important to lose, but putting the FHA there is not very good from the point of view of defending the bulk of our Eastern frontier from the Poles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
I have left you with a strong garrison - what Tincow said he would need to hold Adana against all comers (minus two archers). I will beef it up if there is any sign of the Poles approaching. They seem to be milling around Krakow though.
BTW: if anyone is scared of being undersiege tell me - I know from solo experience you can be trapped and it would doom your character. I can avoid such duty if people like, but it woud be useful to have a human rather than an autoresolve to defend key points like Acre, Adana and Thorn.
You're being a bit cautious aren't you Econ, a few deaths keeps the realism up doesn't it?:whip:Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
@Econ, since I don't have the game close to me it's hard to look at it now, but can't the FHA control that rivercrossing that leads to Thorn, I believe that was the only way in for the Poles. Sides if they attack they excommunicate themselves.
Stig, the FHA was controlling the river crossing to Thorn, but that only defends Thorn - it leaves Breslau and every other settlement in the eastern Reich open to Polish incursions. I think it is better to use the FHA for a mobile defence of our lone Eastern border and rely on the walls of Thorn to protect that salient. This is the kind of issue we should really discuss in character.
I have not heard from Warluster so I am assuming he has not managed to patch to 1.2; he can stand down for now. I've uploaded a new savegame for Factionheir to fight.
Battle is done :)
I was just about finished with inserting all links to pictures for my battle report when my IE decided to crash...lost all links except for 2 and get to re-upload to imageshack all over... argh.
@FH, you should use firefox.
I just got the patch from my GF last night and am now updated. Cool that I'm on corsica, kicking some Milanese ass. Does the patch make it easier or harder for spearmen to fight DFK's? If it looks like a battle that will cripple the BHA, I'm inclined to starve them out.
Once we have Ajaccio (sp) should we onvert it to a city, I'm thinking that if it is a castle that can make DFK's we shouldn't, at least not right away.
Just going over the Diet and govener reports, UI'll prolly have more to add in a bit.
Heh, we were discussing something like this for the last Diet in our Duchy thread, but never got round the proposing it I guessQuote:
This is the kind of issue we should really discuss in character.
Naw. Wasn't really IE's fault but mine, because I was too lazy to update Flash on my new rig. Seems the currently installed flash version is quite outdated and causes IE to crash each time it tries to display some flash based ads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuperman
No real difference - they both have large shields, IIRC, so fixing the shield bug just means the kill rates are slower.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuperman
If I were playing this solo, I would starve them out. I just find DFKs in cities scarey. But I play solo in a rather slow, lazy way. You do have pavise crossbowmen and cavalry, so you might be able to pull off some clever assault tactics to win.
If the enemy are forced to sally you would murder them off course.
At the moment, I am holding until your own DFKs join you. Feel free to PM me whenever you want to strike. (You can just download the latest saves to see the situation).
I'm thinking he wouldn't have too many problems if he were to breach the enemy gate and then shoot the knights (if they decide to stand behind it) with his crossbows to lure them out or make them retreat to town square. He can then encircle the enemy in the square by sending spears from all sides or lure them out of the square by shooting them with xbows while having every street exit blocked with a unit to surround them.
Just a quick reply that I fixed the computer problems, I will be able to fight again. Without the game crashing on me every other minute.
:balloon2:
Alright, the Chancellor's report is now pretty much up to date with the latest savegame. In the latter, we are just starting 1208 and factionheir has broken the Turkish siege of Adana.
econ, you can go attack Rheims once excom threat is over, but i probably cant fight the battle today if one comes up
No worries - I think we have another 3 or 4 turns before the Papal mission expires. But we can start to maneouvre towards Rheims - it might provoke a French reaction; there are several large armies near Paris. I don't know about you, but I always prefer defensive battles.
Absolutely great coop story Econ21 and GH!:bow:
if von hummel is the prince of antioch, who is the king of outremer?
Yes Econ and while your handing them out, I'd like to be the Duke of something out there. It seems titles fall of trees out east. :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921
That is a very apposite question. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921
There's an out of character spoiler answer below (again, in character you all don't know nothin).
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On another matter: Warluster, do PM me when you get patched to 1.2. I can't hold up the PBM waiting for that, so I am autoresolving your battles against rebels. One function of your Imperial army was to hoover up all the little rebels etc while the Household Armies are busy conquering stuff. (Somehow I thought when we created the Household Armies it was supposed to be the other way round, but anyway... :inquisitive:) That function does not work well if you can't do the battles.
You know Econ....apart from not being able to get a reaction out of you...:laugh4: ...I'm going to have to read up a bit on your character.
You're Kaiser dude, is starting to worry me, in just the slightest ways.
You have what is arguably a lovers tiff with Otto, you start speaking to your dead father through a magician, you seem to be gaining momentum on a healthy dose of a "Power Trip", and...well you seem to becoming mentally unhinged.
Are you alright over there big fella?
Ouch, it looks like a lot has happened recently.
Heh, that's what a pagan magician combined with a dynamic father will do to you. :laugh4:
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Good point GH, still, he is calling the shots at the moment, and I never like it when a nutter is in-charge.
I'm certainly missing out on a lot of back door intrigue that's for sure.
Just when you think you know where things are going the plot takes another twist!
History is up to date, I hope that helps people with catching up.
AG, "lover's tiff"? Hmmmm, wrong forum.
I think too many of the nobles are drinking from lead cups if you know what I mean. . .
Come on OK...:laugh4:...you too are making a storm out of a tea cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
Sit down, have a beer and talk about it like two world beaters and I'm sure you can get back to the serious issues at hand...like who's going to be King of Outremer :2thumbsup:
From the smallest acorn a mighty Oak may grow. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
Seems the avatars closest to dying tend to have the best stories :D
hopefully the mongols will be extremely aggressive this game so we can see some pretty awesome battles in the east
I have yet to witness that in any of my gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by Xdeathfire
We can only hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xdeathfire
Of course there are huge number of ways IC that may cause confrontation :laugh4:
Nothing like the Kaiser giving you a direct Imperial order to compel some craziness.
I hope that wasn't my bottle of wine I gave you as a gift OK!!?? :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
LOL!! I never would have believed that was one way of using it...if it was.
After everyone reads the current situation...can someone call Ground Control...because, Rome...we have a problem!!
would the Diet impeach Kaiser Henry if he tries to be King of Outremer and take Jerusalem for himself?
Hah, they only wish. The great thing about being Kaiser is that nobody can take the office away from you.
I don't necessarily see a legal case for impeachment either. Sure, what Henry might do isn't really nice, but as we have learned on numerous occasions, Kaisers really don't care for nice. They'll do whatever they please so long as it's legal.
Perhaps if the Kaisers keep thinking that, they'll stroll into the Diet one day to find an amendment turning the whole thing into the HRR... the Holy Roman Republic.
I assume if that happens the faction leader would take on the role of the German equivalent of Princeps Senatus?
Just a note to say I have updated the playlist table with the new avatars. We now have six spare (sorry, Austria - they are 5 Franconians and one 50 year old Swabian).
I'm inclined to leave them as resurrection vessels for elderlycylonscharacters, although I would prefer a more even division across the houses. Otherwise in 20 turns time Dutch_guy and the House of Franconia may be like the old woman and the shoe.
Ituralde and Kagemusha - I think it is time to start working on the in character switch of the von Mahren line to Austria. If it helps any, Jonas has landed in Northern Greece alone with only his bodyguards and is moving to rendezvous with Duke Leopold who is crossing the border form Ragusa, en route to Thessalonica. I am not sure if you want to take Jonas to Thessalonica - I'd be inclined to leave him to guard Austria (given you are bypassing the closer Venetian settlement) but it's your collective call. I could not get a young von Mahren on the Thessalonica expedition in time, although I am working on it.
I think you are taking some OOC stuff and fiddling it into character. The recent stories posted are all confidential and only those involved know about them, no other. As such, a sudden call for impeachment of the chancellor is more than questionable.Quote:
Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921
whoops sorry, i didnt realize that the stories were secrets. :sweatdrop:
Once the excom threat is over I think the Swabian army is going to just go berserk in France either sacking or killing every city until another excom threat pops up. Due to the fact that the kaiser and chancellor is in the levant, maybe there could be some power struggle here going on.
Who's going to lead this "beserking" action? :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xdeathfire
You'll need someone appropriately nuts to do that? :2thumbsup:
Just a question.
The Swabian edict mentions one province being taken, unless the French send a 1000+ army over the border or a family member of some standing. Has that happened? Sorry I'm away from my PC so I can't see.
Hi gibsonsg91921,
As FactionHeir metions. The only stuff that is public are the Diet proceedings and the Chancellor reports.
Unless you have PM'd people IC then there is no way of you knowing what is going on. You can try and get yourself in the story but then you'd have to approach the players who are collaborating on the story.
You might want to edit your Diet post and change it.
I did amend it a little, with Maximillian's aide saying it is not a threat of impeachment, but rather a warning. Also, i said i was worried about the character of the Kaiser his association with Dusan Kolar, but never mentioned specific things that i would only know out of character.
just thought i'd mix things up, keep it interesting.
Just curious, I see the last save is 1202. Are we a little further ahead? I know there were some battles to be fought but with all the story development I didn't know where we stood time wise. Just thinking if any suitors coming up for the lovely Meckil.
btw, who is the 50 year old swabian? Is he the one Hans adopted?
Well the excom threat is over and seeing as how there might be some argument and dissension in the middle east where many of the empire's top generals are, I might go take the Swabian army for a tour around France and start staking out what I like
hey i think we should help our portuguese allies as a token of our good will in their war against the moors.
great way to spread catholicism and our influence to the east
Iberian Expeditionary Force!
I hate witches, 5 -command star (warts, cursed, and two about being sick) traits in 4-ish turns an and the inquisitor on Corsica hasen't wacked the witch yet.
The worst part is that Gerhard now has a net -moral effect on his men :no:
I think the BHA needs a new commander. :(
Have you been reading the Chancellor's annual reports? The latest one is forQuote:
Originally Posted by Northnovas
12101208 and has a savegame for the start of 1210 that people can inspect to see what's going on:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=147
Oops I put that Chancellor's report for 1208, I've made the change.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
History should be up to date again. Of course this was easier to do when I was the prime mover. :laugh4:
My bad - the report is for 1208; the savegame for the start of 1210.Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
Ahh. . .I have repositioned the report at the end of 1208. Would this be the best placement?Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
That's fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
I confess I've been a bit confused about the timing of things in the game. I've generally written reports after my turn, but before the AIs. The reason is that it leaves some tension about what is going to happen yet.
I just realised last night, however, that what the AI does after my turn is still in the same year. So my reports are strange mid-turn hybrids: reporting what the AI did in year before, but what I have done this year. Blame the IGO-UGO game system for this quirk.
The 50 year old Swabian is Judda's husband. Don't know if he'll be good for anything as he's going to die quite soon.
Stuperman, witches hurt. Especially the high magic ones. Worse on islands as then they tend to be right next to you. The triggers check at the start of our turn whether the witch is on a field next to you or not and has a moderate chance of giving you some bad trait. Inquisitors are reluctant to hit anything that they have a low chance against (i.e. their piety isn't high) so if their piety is a few points lower than the witch's magic, they won't hit her - especially after 1.02 which lowers the base chance and per point chance inquisitors have to burn things.
I know, but I was reluctant to turn him down as my impression from earlier OOC exchanges was that if we accepted Judda's husband, we were more likely to find one for Meckil. (Am I the only one who keeps wanting to call her Merkel, as in the German Chancellor? Or am I just off on one of my idiosyncratic "Manfred" misnomers?)Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
Probably the latter econ. Maybe you know someone who actually is called Manfred? :p
I know why you accepted the husband. Was just pointing it out to whoever it was asking about it on the previous page.
I just saw your topic at the citadel btw. Maybe Stuperman wants to do a ... "witch hunt"?
Yes, I was looking at the other location where the saves were going and then realized I did download 1210 just didn't extract. Waiting in anticipation and forgetting they are 2 year turns. Also just reading the last story thread adds another distraction. I am waiting for the next plot twist more then looking for the next save. Another good read and cooperative story development.:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
OK and Econ fantastic stuff!! :2thumbsup:
Apologies while I go and ready the thermonuclear warheads...I think I need to get a few warmed up...I can feel a couple a heatseeking posts coming up :whip:
Someone let me know when this deranged madness in the east is common knowledge. I'm getting some shiet organised to end this Kaiser virus that seems to be genetic!
Otto might have confided in people back home, just in case he did not come back from his meeting with Henry. But it would be mainly rumours and fears. All that people know is that Henry is besieging Jerusalem and has a pagan magician in his retinue.Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
Otto's meeting with Henry has not concluded yet.