I think Jan can get the county but he just can't govern it while King. Conrad had Nuremburg. :yes:
Plus, Econ already put it up on the Chancellor thread. ^^
*edit*
I don't think Jan should get the extra influence though. It should be at 4, not 5.
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I think Jan can get the county but he just can't govern it while King. Conrad had Nuremburg. :yes:
Plus, Econ already put it up on the Chancellor thread. ^^
*edit*
I don't think Jan should get the extra influence though. It should be at 4, not 5.
Don't give up on Outremer unless you want to. It has as much of a role to play in the coming events as each of the Duchies. If everyone wants to go back to the Reich, that's fine, but if they want to stay there will be plenty of options open to them as well.
Oh one way or another Jan is staying. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
I figured this was a "plot point". If it is, it should be fun. If it isn't, and all of Outremer gets gifted, I have ideas of things for Jan to do so it should still be fun. :2thumbsup:
The last few years have lead to an increase in traffic in the Diet and Story threads, which is great. However this increases the chances that I will miss something that is worthy of the history. If you write a story, send me a link to make sure it's referenced. If you feel there's an exchange in the Diet worthy of inclusion, let me know, preferably with a beginning post number.
I want to make sure the history does a good job of chronicling the cataclysm, but I'm going to need everyone's help to do so.
Thanks.
In a similar vein, I'm trying to give everyone a character bio on the Wiki but it's taking a while and I won't be able to keep up with all the events. If everyone chipped in, as is ideal, we can make a really killer page.
Here's the page so far. As you can see, we still have a lot of work to do.
GH that Wiki is such a cool idea. I see the work that needs to be done . I will see what I can contribute.
I've got the save, and I guess I'm about to find out how much of the riech is still German.
ok, apparently I took the wrong save., who uploaded 1306-5?
PrivateerKev uploaded the latest save, 1306-5, he had a fight against the Turks near Edessa.
What's wrong with the save?
Nothing, I took 1306-4
Battle fought and won.
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1306-6.zip
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/...tm_b1b24f3.jpg
Interesting map:
http://img35.picoodle.com/img/img35/...gm_3a9325f.jpg
Taking the save.
Just autoresolve it. The game quit just as I'd won the battle. I don't know what's going wrong.
Running any additional mods perhaps?
Btw, you still need to post in the Swabian thread...if you want to that is
It looks like everyone has fought, or tried to fight, their battles except Xdeathfire. I'll take back the save in a few hours and start making remaining moves for 1306. PM me if you have any special instructions for the year.
Gibson: Please PM me a screenshot of where you want Peter to be by the end of 1306.
econ:
Xdeathfire left the PBM, so he didn't fight his battle. You need someone to do it though?
Also, is the screenshot to show where we want a character to be or where we possibly can move him within that year? :grin2:
He told me in a PM he might want to fight the battle - if he doesn't, we have made arrangements to handle it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
It's to show his intended destination; from that, I'll infer their movement path. At some point, Peter's army and his pursuers' paths may cross and I'll work out if, and where, they do.Quote:
Also, is the screenshot to show where we want a character to be or where we possibly can move him within that year?
alright it should be neat. if we cross paths there should be a story or confrontation before we go straight to open war. make sure tancred is nearby (or not...)
That said, how would such a confrontation play out - two characters, Hans and Péter, crossing each others path?
Some sort of MP battle, or something else entirely ?
:balloon2:
i am curious of that as well. i dont think peter would want to go to battle unless positively necessary - he truly doesnt want dead germans. that would defeat his purpose.
We can decide what to do when if Peter's pursuers catch him when and if it happens. But be assured it won't automatically be a battle - I'll give both sides a chance to reach a diplomatic solution.
Gibson: please can you load up a save, move Peter and then send me a screenshot of where he should be at the end of this turn? I will then move him and his pursuers according to instructions.
EDIT: Note to all - I am taking back the save and making moves for 1306. I will post any further battles later today.
i sent u ur PM.
What was wrong with Kotr 1306-5? If you guys skipped it, thats fine, because I only moved and didn't fight the battle, but I needed to know so I can pm Econ with Jan's moves.
Also, if something is wrong with it, I need to know so I can see if it is on my end. I am patched up with no other mods so I should be fine. Can we try a little harder before we go skipping people's uploads? If I had fought a 2 hour battle, I would be kind of pissed off right now.
*edit*
nevermind. ^_^
hey PK - u really are gracious and such as Jan. not as authoritative as salier, but hey - give it time
Ok after re-reading the OOC thread, and injecting myself with coffee, it seems that SM did not skip my save. My apologies. :bow:
gibson: thank you! I like what your doing with Peter too.
Jan and Conrad definitely conceive of the role of King differently. But to be fair, they had to deal with entirely different situations and obstacles.
yeah. peter is kind of a tragic hero in a way lol. jan is misunderstood and well-meaning, but not many like him
A lot of people don't like him because he has positioned himself against their "secret" agenda... ;)
Secret agendas? In this game?
*Kevin sees a little red dot on his chest*Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamur
Umm... nevermind, I seem to be mistaken... There are NO secret agendas going on in this game.
move along.
there is nothing to see here.
*the dot disappears*
well, peter's agenda was supposed to be secret. but how can you hide a missing household army?
well, taking a well traveled road was probably not the most subtle move you could have made. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921
It would have taken longer but you could have hopped from forest to forest and hid.
But, with the inevitable pursuit that would be on your trail, taking the roads in order to go faster was probably the best thing you could do.
Easy, just go missing. Oh wait, you did. :laugh4:
Probably if you had split your units into smaller patrols it would have been less obvious.
eh, econ's chancellor report saying my army had gone missing was a big clue. and i didnt pick the path, thats the chancellor's job
Armies are big organizations requiring lots of communications and logistics. Losing contact with an army would have been fairly easy for the Chancellor and Duke to notice.
As to the army path, you had to balance speed and subtlety. You could have gone sneakier but you would have been slower. Though you only had a limited time frame so speed was of the essence. I think you did the best you could with the situation you had. You went fast but we found out your intentions quicker.
Making a whole army mutiny, then taking them hundreds of miles to attack the capital of a major ally was never going to be an easy job. But you rolled the dice and took your chances. Either way, it has made for an awesome story in my opinion. :2thumbsup:
@gibson, just because you ask the Chancellor for an OOC favor doesn't mean it's going to be granted in the exact way you envisioned. Sucks, but he has a larger story to worry about.
It's a shame Matthias stormed out, looks like I'm missing a humdinger in the Diet.
@FH, your avatar's post in the Diet states that the Kaiser gave something to Bavaria in the begining of the term. But that was a mistake as the land, Cagliari, is already given away, to the Sicilians for peace I think, which is what TC's avatar was moaning about everytime... :P
I think Hans meant Ajacio which the Kaiser gave Bavaria for how Gerhard voted at the Ducal council during the Succession Dispute.
Econ did you actually adopt Karl because I would love to have him as my next avatar (if Dieter gets killed soon enough lol)
he held his cursor over the "decline" option when he took the picture. Plus, since Swabia has one spare avatar, he said he wouldn't accept another for Swabia.
Sorry, I was tempted but as I've just killed off two spare Swabia avatars and we have another, I could not justify it to myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob_the_great
I am shooting for one spare avatar per House, but the computer seems very keen on giving Hans more adoptees.
edit - deleted
I wonder if we should accept them and then kill them, just to get the "heir mechanics" to move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ
Yes, the thought had entered my mind. I'd be interested to hear what Factionheir has to say on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Thats true, it would lock out his last two "slots" for kids.
Adoptees for MotH/adoptions usually go from left to right, although with exceptions: I.e. Dassel doesn't seem to be getting any currently, nor does Elberhard or Hümmel.
Its not really linked to age either, as I sometimes get adoption offers to someone who just came of age for instance.
As for further Swabians, I don't think more are necessary as we already got a spare. Although of course not accepting might block out adoptions for other houses while Hans is alive possibly, but we don't seem to have a shortage currently to justify several rounds of adoptions + kill offs.
Regarding adoptions for Hans in particular, I'm not too certain whether it makes a difference or not. He's already in his 50s and not married and chances that he gets married are rather slim. Of course we could force marry him to a princess (does Siegfried reward loyalty?), but even then he'd only have a random amount of years (he'll he 59 or 60 by the time one comes of age) to produce any offspring. Of course I did have characters live to 68, but that tends to be the exception.
But for the moment I'd say no more adoptions.
siegfried wont be repaying your loyalty when im through with u, FH
Have Peter turn around and pursue Hans instead then :laugh4:
(;P)
Oh he better... :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
:beam:
Now I'm freak'n confused. Why did GeneralHankercheif randomly become pope!?!?!?
It's all sarcasm, although I will gladly accept the position if you wish. :laugh4:
Here is the origination of the joke:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=614Quote:
Originally Posted by Elberhard
Pope/Kaiser Dietrich, you still haven't answered my question on what flavor lotion to use on your feet. :D
i do like the lotion joke. funny stuff
thank you. :bow:
"It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again."
You guys know that HRE Emperors were more or less elected, right? (in real)
I thought that's why we picked them>?
Yeah it's just that some people say that the Kaiser was appointed by god, while in real he was almost always choosen by a couple of Electors and with that named King of the Romans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuperman
Let's turn the page onto 1310. The Chancellor's report for 1308 is up.
There seem to be almost no battles this turn, just one minor one for Ignoramus:
Count Hummel:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
If you still have technical problems, let me know me and I'll autoresolve.
However, the pursuit of Peter's rebel force has come to ahead. I need orders from Factionheir, Gibson and Cecil within 24 hours. I also need advice from Becker/Arnold on what to do about Bucharest. It is surely going to blow this turn - probably better to get the militia to bug out back to Bran.
Here's the save:
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1308-1.zip
People should pass by the Throne room in about 24 hours time, when we will resolve the Peter issue and see if there are any defensive battles.
Econ, why did you not allow Stig's avatar to break the siege of Thorn, that should be a defensive battle and will not incurred the wrath of the Pope, right? Or is that part of the story plot?
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Originally Posted by econ21
Jan has 10 Piety and believes in "divine right to rule". Yes, I the player know that Emperors were elected in the HRE. But, Jan has a different view of things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
The computer picks an heir. Jan believes that is the Pope saying that God picked that person to be heir. You can quibble all you want that Jan's view is not rational but it is not meant to be rational.
^_^
As we say, the will of the game is the will of god.
Ansehelm is not in Thorn, he himself is outside itQuote:
Originally Posted by StoneCold
FYI, for Factionheir. I checked my KOTRfix install and it seems I patched the wrong M2TW installation. I have fixed it now. I've got 4 different M2TW installs on my computer now and it's a bit confusing.
Stig, so attacking an enemy stack on our land is still an aggression?
Regarding Thorn, I loaded up the savegame. The rest is in a spoiler.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
All right - Stig, if you want to, Ansehelm can attack the Polish army beseiging Thorn.
:help: I get back and find that Wolgang has the plague?
Will fight my battle tomorrow morning, if I fight it ofcourse, those Poles seemed strong last turn
Sorry about that. :embarassed: It happened after he occupied Bruges.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
Does anyone know what the consequences of carrying the plague are? I guess he can infect any settlements he enters? What is the prognosis for the character?
Most of the time he survives, either take him out of the city or place him in an already infected city with major health bonuses
Plague usually lasts for 4-6 turns.
It doesn't make a difference whether he stays inside town or not, but if he re-enters, he'll also reinfect. I usually leave em inside a town as even though their illness lasts longer than a garrison's, they do not keep infecting people, so are completely safe. I suppose that's good in a way too since he needs to keep PO at Bruges.
With Peter's capture, is there the possibility of a trial a la Publius Laevinus?
cool! i want to be memorable lol
Stig: what are you going to do about the battle at Thorn? Do you intend to fight it now or should do you intend to fight a defensive battle at the end of the turn (in real life, tomorrow)?
I was just about thinking of loading MTW2 ~D
OK, good luck. I'm assuming Ignoramus is not going to fight his battle, so when you load up the save I will finish the turn. It's going to be a significant one, BTW.
Very clever hiding place, TinCow. Are we going to see some exciting fireworks in the Diet? Or is this all underground activity? Poor Siegfried, in either case!
Easy win, I didn't even use the reinforcements, they arrived at the moment the battle was over:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
btw, how on earth is Peter captured? Edmund Becker is not even close to him
save:
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1308-2.rar
In the save you have, they have not moved since 1306 as I needed their march orders for 1308 first. Once I had the orders, it was clear Becker could make the interception. (If you set Peter to head for Constantinople, you will see that Becker can catch him.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
In that case Gibson gave wrong orders, as he's uncatchable at at points on the mapQuote:
Originally Posted by econ21
:laugh4:
I was pushing on that pleasure palace construction for a reason. It's the same reason I transferred the Bavarian capital to Florence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamur