Capo de Tutti Capi - II [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by rules

A mafia family may, during each “night” phase, make one killing for every two made gangsters or sanctioned wise guys.

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the town claim is quite plausible, damned Caius has claimed to have participated as half of a two person sanctioned kill on BSR already, and possibly other kills (Made Caius of the Cunnio could explain some things), the list of townies circulated that pm was according to bit I found quoted

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Caius; Ironside; KukriKhan; Leet Eriksson; norwegian nerd; Proletariat; shlin28; Twilightblade

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Kage I think you would understand that orders can work even if they have surplus participants. So that only needs one other wg with Caius to have sent order and the whole lot to have been approved by Craterus for the kill to have worked.

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Originally Posted by scottishranger

I have been Kag, and I know you have absolutely no reason to trust me, none at all. But I know that I sent in orders to kill Shlin, and I know Gibson did to. We have no idea how Shlin survived, no idea(though it appears to me to be some red text luck)

Why would we kill EF? Why would I even want the town win? I have been mafied aligned this entire time, even as a townie. I need the mafia to win.

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All i know is that you are a backstabber. backstabbing one, is just as easy as backstabbing another. From our talk from yesterday, i sensed right away that you had predetermined even before talking with me to turn against me and your pall gibsons just avoided me. Your DON fossed Craterus and next Gibsons votes me. I wonder what made you choose Cunnios over us,while we have been cooperating with you for half of the game, while Cunnio was lurking.My honest opinion is that either you or Gibsons or both are townie traitors.

Now... who did kill EF? :sneaky:

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Originally Posted by scottishranger

blah blah blah blah blah

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You killed your Don. :mean:

I did not kill EF

Honestly, the only reason I went with Craterus is because he talked to me first. When I was talking with you, I genuinely felt like going to your side. I really did, I just did not want to betray Craterus, and I still dont.

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

Now... who did kill EF? :sneaky:

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I lead the thingie.

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Originally Posted by Makanyane

the town claim is quite plausible, damned Caius has claimed to have participated as half of a two person sanctioned kill on BSR already, and possibly other kills (Made Caius of the Cunnio could explain some things), the list of townies circulated that pm was according to bit I found quoted




Kage I think you would understand that orders can work even if they have surplus participants. So that only needs one other wg with Caius to have sent order and the whole lot to have been approved by Craterus for the kill to have worked.

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Made Caius of the Cunnio could explain some things

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Im not Made.

Caius you have also established in this thread that you lie a lot when it suits you ... your responses are not likely to be believed

I'm protown, I have been protown , I will be protown, no matter if TP or Crate invite me to their family.-

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

You know what? I don't even care who wins anymore. I just want to watch this thing go on longer.

Seriously, the last ten pages or so are an example of human psychology at its finest. :yes:

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I agree.

And I must say, as I already said to Kage, that when you have a certain percentage of gullible people among the townies, you can expect a similar percentage of gullible people among the mafia. :laugh4:
That is if the choice is actually somewhat random and the amount of people in both groups as high as in this game.

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Seriously, the last ten pages or so are an example of human psychology at its finest

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Thats related to the history of mafia.

A serious aside:

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Quote wherein poster swore by a higher power, since edited in original post. -- SF

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Please don't do this guys. There are some people in this world who value oaths/swearing to something. This shouldn't be used in mafia, where part of the game is to decieve.

I am speaking the truth, I would not do that unless I was serious Myrddrall.

I will edit it out if you want me to.

It's ok, I know you are telling the truth, but I'd appreciate it if you used different language. I have been telling the truth, but nobody believes me. Deception is part of mafia. If people swear to things and they are telling the truth, then the town has the ultimate trump card; everybody swears to be a townie and the mafia are stuck.

If the mafia then swear to be townies, people are swearing to things which are not true. That's not good imo. I know there are people out there who will break their word on a whim, but I'm not one of them and I'd like to play mafia without having to swear to anything please. It also defeats the whole point of the game.

Sorry if this is just me being sensitive. Lying is part of mafia, I have no problem lying a lot as a mafioso, but when it comes to swearing :no:

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Originally Posted by Myrddraal

Sorry if this is just me being sensitive. Lying is part of mafia, I have no problem lying a lot as a mafioso, but when it comes to swearing :no:

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This has been brought up in previous games and I believe that a majority of the players agree with you, Myrddraal.

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Originally Posted by Myrddraal

Sorry if this is just me being sensitive. Lying is part of mafia, I have no problem lying a lot as a mafioso, but when it comes to swearing :no:

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Replace his words with daisies. That's what Banquo does when people swear, isn't it?

The is the Kingdom of Mafia, not the War and Politics one...

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA!

What the fudge? I'm gone just one schoolday and I'm accused of killing EF, by Kagemusha, the one who's responsible? Geez!

Scotty and I tried to kill Shlin. If I'm lying, Lothar and the Illuminati can take turns slapping Peter as I request several more.

I may be dead but this has become very entertaining.... Go town.

...So is it day or night?

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24. Pretend like you don't have time to pay attention when you're really just lurking scum.

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Is a bit late CA......

(about another 8 hours of night to go I think - hope the townies aren't sleeping too secure in their beds...:devilish: )

I actually don't have time. I started University last week.

With two hours left, I lack PMs from a majority of players....

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

With two hours left, I lack PMs from a majority of players....

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Group 1: codeword: Flamingo

The ploy of the Cunnios has been beautiful. All throughout the game, they have used the mafia to kill the town, and have used the town to kill the Cunnio's mafia rivals.

They infiltrated the town, and passed on the information they gathered about townies with roles to their mafia rivals, who then killed these townies for them. Simultanously, they had infiltrated the town’s vigilante groups, and have killed their mafia rivals throughout the game together with the town.

They ran absolutely no risk. Their kills on their mafia rivals were accounted for to the town as vig hits. And they were also hidden from the other families because they were town vig kills.
And at the same time, their complete and utter absence of kills as a family was accounted for to their mafia rivals by their infiltration efforts.

So both the town and the mafia, throughout the game, have thought that the Cunnios were working with them.

Meanwhile, the Cunnios ran absolutely no risk at all. They did not even need to make a single kill as a family until yesterday. They left all the killing to the town and the other families. Even as we speak, the Cunnios have infiltrators in both the town and in Kagemusha’s family's associates .

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Originally Posted by Makanyane

( hope the townies aren't sleeping too secure in their beds...:devilish: )

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The town is dead. Just three players left, who can't kill.

The Cunnios have used both the town and the mafia families. We have all been equally duped. The families don’t share in a mafia win through the Cunnio win, they share in defeat to the Cunnios together with the town.

The Cunnios are not even pretending anymore that they are or have been playing for a common mafia victory. They revealed themselves yesterday, by openly lynching a rival don. The town thought it was fun, but we were played just as much as the Cunnios mafia rivals. :wall:

We have one last chance of stopping them, if all the non-Cunnios team up. But I fear it is too late for that.



Oh, and there is yet hope for the mafia! you can eat yourself free!
Sicilian Mafioso too Fat for Prison

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An accused Mafioso has been told he must serve the rest of his sentence at home because he is too fat for Italian jails.

Salvatore Ferranti, who weighs 33 stone (210 kg), was allowed to go home after spending six months in four Italian prisons, his lawyer said.

Guards said they constantly needed to help the 36-year-old get dressed and undressed, move about and go to the bathroomGuards said they constantly needed to help the 36-year-old get dressed and undressed, move about and go to the bathroom.

They added that there was no bed big enough for him and that he could not get through the bathroom doors.

Ferranti is accused of being a member of the Mafia clan once headed by Salvatore Lo Piccolo, the "boss of bosses", who was arrested last November.

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

The town is dead. Just three players left, who can't kill.

The Cunnios have used both the town and the mafia families. We have all been equally duped. The families don’t share in a mafia win through the Cunnio win, they share in defeat to the Cunnios together with the town.

The Cunnios are not even pretending anymore that they are or have been playing for a common mafia victory. They revealed themselves yesterday, by openly lynching a rival don. The town thought it was fun, but we were played just as much as the Cunnios mafia rivals. :wall:

We have one last chance of stopping them, if all the non-Cunnios team up. But I fear it is too late for that.



Oh, and there is yet hope for the mafia! you can eat yourself free!
Sicilian Mafioso too Fat for Prison

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If the town is dead indeed, you sure make loud noise praising Cunnios and trying to get others to attack them.:inquisitive:

Sorry Kage, call me a broken record, but...the Cunnio's betrayed your trust, backstabbed you, and openly lynched you. Why you are rooting for their win at the expense of your family and allies is beyond me. ~:confused:

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Sorry Kage, call me a broken record, but...the Cunnio's betrayed your trust, backstabbed you, and openly lynched you. Why you are rooting for their win at the expense of your family and allies is beyond me. ~:confused:

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You, of all players, certainly have some sympathy for backstabbers and traitors, hmmm?

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Sorry Kage, call me a broken record, but...the Cunnio's betrayed your trust, backstabbed you, and openly lynched you. Why you are rooting for their win at the expense of your family and allies is beyond me. ~:confused:

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Im rooting for mafia victory. But if it makes you happy, my mission to have that, could be highly unlike to be successful. We will probably see lot of backstabbing and other activities, so the crowd can be happy to have their drama. But in the other context, it seems majority of players have already gone inactive. Maybe my lynching and braking my streak of being undefeated mafioso was enough of climax for some people. But thats what you get by valuating the situation the wrong way:clown:

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Originally Posted by Andres

You, of all players, certainly have some sympathy for backstabbers and traitors, hmmm?

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You were brutally betrayed by me, Andres. Now do as mafia in this game does and cheer for your betrayer! :smash:

More seriously:
We have all been betrayed by the Cunnios. Town and mafia alike. The betrayal did not start yesterday with the Cunnio murder of Elite Ferret and Kage's lynch. The Cunnios have played both the town and the mafia throughout the game. They win, without firing a single shot as a family until n13. :wall:

Who do you think was in those town wiseguy groups? Some half of the members of them turned out to be Cunnios. They have been killing mafiosi all throughout the game. That's why the town was never suspicious of them. And that is why the town was so confident that there would be no common mafia victory. :book:

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Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

You were brutally betrayed by me, Andres. Now do as mafia in this game does and cheer for your betrayer! :smash:

More seriously:
We have all been betrayed by the Cunnios. Town and mafia alike. The betrayal did not start yesterday with the Cunnio murder of Elite Ferret and Kage's lynch. The Cunnios have played both the town and the mafia throughout the game. They win, without firing a single shot as a family until n13. :wall:

Who do you think was in those town wiseguy groups? Some half of the members of them turned out to be Cunnios. They have been killing mafiosi all throughout the game. That's why the town was never suspicious of them. And that is why the town was so confident that there would be no common mafia victory. :book:

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Yeah lets go out all and kill the Cunnios! Then the remaining mafia should probably just kill themselves for the heck of it. Lets first see what your wiseguys will do tonight.

~:mecry: ~:mecry: ~:mecry:

Bugger, when I said Saturday that we would see a lot of crying mafiosi before this was all over, I had hoped that they would all team up against the backstabbing mafia family once they found out which one it was. :embarassed:

Apparently, not. Apparently, the scenario that Elite Ferret is the one don in the history of mafia who is somehow excluded from knowing who his family members are, or the scenario that EF was killed by his two mades simply for the heck of it, is more convincing than the scenario that the family who lynched a don and betrayed the truce is the one responsible for all this. :wall:

(Was Sasaki behind all of this? Who else can not only come up with a beautiful double-layered double-cross of both the town and four families at the same time, and execute it with military precision and discipline, AND be devious enough to convince those he betrayed or even had lynched that they should root for the people who just killed them. Sasaki was not a member of your family yet, was he, Kage? I think it is no mere coincidence that he has *ahem* joined the Cunnios now, tonight.)

This is main thread post #



“It is a time of great light
And a great darkness
Can't you feel the present
Of its phenomenon
In an atmosphere supreme
Forces dwells in dominancy
The essence of its spirit is evil
As a curse upon thy name
Midnight is the shepherd of mysterious powers
And moving shadows in the corner of the eye
Moon's blazing intuition
Contains what death require”
-- Limbonic



Summary, Night Fourteen


Joe Monks stood at the railing of the boardwalk, gazing out across the moonlit sea. He crushed his cigarette, dropping it into the sand below. A slow, patient exhale sent the soft smoke twirling in the moonlight. He waited, enjoying the night.

The first crossbow bolt took him in the middle of the back. Tonight, there was no armor between Joe and fate and the bolt punched deep into him. Joe staggered, but held himself from falling. His exhale was sharper this time, and pained, but he did not cry out or scream. He just straightened and continued to gaze out past the breakers and into the Atlantic.

The second bolt struck higher, punching through Monk’s right scapula and into the lung. This one brought him to his knees. He remained silent throughout, still gazing out across the dark sea, his breathing shallower and shallower until, at last, that too stopped. He crumpled softly to the boardwalk.

Two dark figures glided up behind him. Neither spoke. One knelt to leave a brief note: “Cosi sempre a traditori.” Both figures paused over the body, lingering just one short moment, and then faded back into the shadowed streets of Fatlington.


Leet Erikson was nervous. Things had not gone quite as…expected…lately. He peered between the blinds of his front window, scanning the street in front of his house. Then he spotted the shrouded figure in the shadows between two of the bungalows across the little street. He could just make out the shape of a crossbow and the glint of something metal as the figure turned.

Leet spun away from the window just before the bolt went through the glass where he’d been standing, peering through the parted Venetian blinds. He quickly brought up his shotgun and moved out through the front door.

<<He can’t reload in time,> thought Leet, <<and a shotty trumps his stupid bow!>>

Leet charged into the street quickly pumping a round of shot into the corner post behind which the crossbowman had taken refuge. He racked another round into the barrel and paused to take a better shot.

Leet wore his armored vest, but the shot that struck him from the left had been designed for tougher armor. The .55 round from the Boys ATR struck just above his left hip on a downward angle, effortlessly punching through the body armor, Leet’s abdomen, his right pelvis, and, finally deforming, exited in a huge, torn wound at his right hip – taking the joint with it. Leet dropped his weapon and collapsed in the street, screaming in agony at the unbelievable pain from the wound.

The crossbowman walked forward carefully, just in case Leet somehow managed to grab his weapon. Though instantly lethal, the crossbow bolt was almost an act of mercy.


Caius and Shlin28 were sitting at the bar at the Hotel Abbatoir. Both had gone back to their apartments at first, but just couldn’t relax. Without any consultation, both found themselves at the bar, so they shared a table. The last couple of weeks had been a constant strain and they decided that, all-in-all, a few boilermakers weren’t going to hurt anything.

Just after Shlin left, a tall masked figure in a high-collared black frock coat, sleeves embroidered with stylized gold dragons and pins on either collar point swept into the bar. He held the long hafted blade of the ashenderi with practiced ease.

“Shall we dance, Caius!” The blade whirled, a silver whispered circle of death that evoked screams from some at the bar – and sent most of the patrons backing away from Caius’ table.

“No, thanks," said Caius. He’d barely flinched as the blade whirled over his head and now just paused to sip his beer.

“Don’t know the steps, shadow-spawn? I’d be happy to teach you…”

“So cut my head off, then, Tee-Bee. Frankly, I’m just a bit tired of all this crap.”

Twilightblade stopped spinning his ashenderi and rested it. Looking at Caius with a look of disappointment and frustration.

“It’s no darn fun if you won’t play along,” said 'blade.

“No doubt.”

Caius kicked the chair Shlin had been using out a bit from the table, making space.

“’blade, why don’t you sit down, shut up, and let me buy you a drink,” said Caius, filling a shotglass from the bottle of Wild Turkey he and Shlin had been working on.

Twilightblade took a long look at Caius, then he put down his beloved Ashenderi, sat quietly down and picked up the glass. Both raised their shotglasses in a silent toast. Neither spoke, but just sat quietly together, easing their tensions – at least for the night – in a mellowed ethanol haze.

Both had splitting heads when Fermanagh’s police collected everybody for their required attendance at the morning meeting.


Morning Meeting, Day Fifteen


Fermanagh looked at the much-dwindled committee.

“We’re pretty certain that a new crime family has begun operating. There have been 3 crossbow-related deaths in two nights. I’m afraid it isn’t a good sign.”

He paused, not sure what to make of the listless expressions on the faces of some of the committee and entirely unsure what to make of the stares of the others.

“I’m afraid our follow-on investigations have produced some disturbing results. TinCow was confirmed to be a WiseGuy, but we were unable to establish a clear connection to one of the crime families. We can’t be certain he was opposed to the town. Both JimBob and Brave Sir Robin were townies. We have some indications that both may have been involved in the attacks, but rumors suggest they were targeting the mafia. Some of the rumors said the same thing about TinCow.”

“Let me add that we’re pretty certain that Glenn, JimBob, and Rob_the_Celt were all in some kind of secret society. There are simply too many coincidences in the paraphanelia they had etc. for them not to have had some connection. I’m sorry I can’t add anything more.”

“Thanks, commissioner,” said Craterus. “I’ll remind you all that today we select a Director as well as vote for whomever we think is guilty of these continuing crimes…”



OOC

1. Day Fifteen lynch voting and director selection commences as of now. Votes are due to me no later than 0800 EDT tomorrow, 3/14/8 (1200 GMT).

2. Current List of Players:

Still Alive: (11) Caius, CountArach, Craterus, gibsonsg91921, Proletariat, Sasaki Kojiro, scottishranger, shlin28, TruePraetorian, Twilightblade, Xehh II.

Attacked: (37) Andres (N2, N3), Beefy187 (N1), Brave Sir Robin (N7), Caius (N3, N14), Charge (N9), Craterus (N6), Crazed Rabbit (N6), Cowhead418 (N2), Elite Ferret (N10, N12, N13), Evil_Maniac from Mars (N3), GeneralHankerchief (N2, N3), Glenn (N1, N2), Ichigo (N9), Kagemusha (N6), Proletariat (N4, N4, N5, N6, N7, N8, N9), Sasaki Kojiro (N5, N7), shlin28 (N13), taka (N2), Tran (N5, N7, N8), TinCow (N7), Twilightblade (N4, N5), Xdeathfire (N1)

Murdered: (38) Drisos (N1), Lord Winter (N2), Beefy187 (N3), Glenn (N3), Pannonian (N3), taka (N3), The Stranger (N3), Zorg (N3), GeneralHankerchief (N4), Kommodus (N4), Moros (N4), Xiahou (N4), Chimpyang (N5), Kamikhaan (N5), Motep (N5), Rythmic, (N5), woad&fangs (N5), ajaxfetish (N6), FactionHeir (N6), Lt. Pinard (N6), Louis VI the Fat (N6), Husar (N7), NorthNovas (N7), Makanyane (N8), Sarathos (N8), Tran (N8), Haudegen (N9), Cowhead418 (N10), Ichigo (N10), LittleGrizzly (N10), Myrddraal (N11), Warluster (N11), Brave Sir Robin (N12), Elite Ferret (N13), Ironside (N13), norwegian nerd (N13), Joe Monks (N14), Leet Erikson (N14).

Killed During an Attack: (1) Evil_Maniac from Mars (N8).

Lynched: (14) pevergreen (D2), Hannibalbarca (D3), Tiberius of the Drake (D3), Omanes Alexandrapolites (D4), Andres (D5), Xdeathfire (D6), Dutch_guy (D7), Sigurd Fafnesbane (D8), Hiji (D9), Crazed Rabbit (D10), Charge (D11), TinCow (D12), Kukrikhan (D13), Kagemusha (D14).

Removed from Play: (15) Fahad I (D4), Killfr3nzy (D4), x-dANGEr (D4), Sapi (N4), Warmaster Horus (N5), Rob_the_Celt (N5), molonthegreat (N5), johnhughthom (D8), Alexander the Pretty Good (N9), Big King Sanctaphrax (N9), Roadkill (N9), Caeser the III (N11), Draco Leman (N11), JimBob (N12), Jubal_Barca (N12).

I guess my guys decided to just die. Im sure Craterus the worm feels high and mighty now.Also the townie infiltrators that killed their Don ,could you now please lynch Craterus, so the town cant start celebrating.

Select: Craterus I know I can't vote, but can I select? If not, let me know.

I'll ignore the jibes till the endgame...

*yawn* vote:craterus

GAH!!! sorry Kage, I told my guys not to vote for you but they don't seem to be Tataglias anymore, I was killed by Craterus I'm sure of it. For example that last kill with crossbows left an Italian phrase at the end just like my kill had.

Oh and the 'Italian Destiny' family leave a Spanish phrase so I'm not sure why they are called that :clown:

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Originally Posted by Craterus

Select: Craterus I know I can't vote, but can I select? If not, let me know.

I'll ignore the jibes till the endgame...

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Well whether you will be betrayed or if the town gave you the victory, it doesnt chance much what i think of you.

Bwahahahahaha! :laugh4:

Ah well, sorry, gotta catch a train... ~D

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Originally Posted by Elite Ferret

GAH!!! sorry Kage, I told my guys not to vote for you but they don't seem to be Tataglias anymore, I was killed by Craterus I'm sure of it. For example that last kill with crossbows left an Italian phrase at the end just like my kill had.

Oh and the 'Italian Destiny' family leave a Spanish phrase so I'm not sure why they are called that :clown:

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Sorry. I'm afraid that's my fault. I haven't yet studied either Spanish or Italian enough to consistently differentiate them, and Italian seemed more likely in a mafia setting. I started calling your family that after my death on N6 and the name stuck.

Ajax

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Cosi sempre a traditori

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Casi siempre un traidor? tradicion?

Its not Spanish, its italian.

And the Craterus mafia killed EF. They told me.

So what does that sentence say in English?

not sure about the last word, but it can mean almost always a traitor or tradition.

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Originally Posted by Caius

Casi siempre un traidor? tradicion?

Its not Spanish, its italian.

And the Craterus mafia killed EF. They told me.

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I was talking about the sig of my family not Craterus's and yes I know he killed me and he should kill you too you damn traitor :skull:

I think i have found the limits of being cold hearted scum. I suggest to remaining Barzini to vote for Craterus today. Screw the mafia victory, i cant watch him killing you one by one, while you die as loyal men.:bow:

So if we lynch Craterus, what happens?

Have the Barzini remnants elected a new Don? CA and Sasaki are all that remain of the Barzini family, right?

CR

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he should kill you too you damn traitor

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He won't.

Kage, just so you know: Plan A was to leave the remaining Barzini alone. I PM'd your family asking if they were planning to go for a mafia victory or a family war. The PMs I received suggested the the former. I was hardly going to take risks at this stage.

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Originally Posted by Craterus

Kage, just so you know: Plan A was to leave the remaining Barzini alone. I PM'd your family asking if they were planning to go for a mafia victory or a family war. The PMs I received suggested the the former. I was hardly going to take risks at this stage.

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I dont need your excuses. While our family will die anyway, its better to hang you then die leaving you alive. Lets see if your beloved town will save you now.

Vote Craterus

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Select:Craterus

I have done a promise, and I won't break it.

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Originally Posted by Craterus

Kage, just so you know: Plan A was to leave the remaining Barzini alone. I PM'd your family asking if they were planning to go for a mafia victory or a family war. The PMs I received suggested the the former. I was hardly going to take risks at this stage.

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And you didn't think it was risky to start picking off the remaining Barzinis, a move which would obviously antagonize the survivors and cause them to vote for you? :dizzy2:

I agree with Kage. Lynch Craterus and make the once-seemingly-impossible townie victory a reality! :2thumbsup:

All in all, its just another kick in the balls.

This is to Caius: :furious3: :furious3: :furious3: :furious3: :furious3:

Talking of not breaking promises... take a look at the one who you're electing right now... :shame:

Inbelievable.. :wall:

so, it's

Craterus+TruePraetorian+Xehh
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Sasaki+CountArach
vs.
Prole+shlin

and a number of doubtfull people.. t'blade, gibson, caius, scottish. it will depend on them who wins I guess..

I should congratulate Craterus or getting the game to the point that now apparently neither the town nor the mafia care who wins - so long as its not him :laugh4:


Drisos - I think most promises Caius makes he does with fingers crossed - so he can say they don't count!

I know, but it had to sound TOO realistic. Its a sacrifice we all have to do.

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Originally Posted by Kommodus

And you didn't think it was risky to start picking off the remaining Barzinis, a move which would obviously antagonize the survivors and cause them to vote for you? :dizzy2:

I agree with Kage. Lynch Craterus and make the once-seemingly-impossible townie victory a reality! :2thumbsup:

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You wish, we still won't win, unless there's some really weirdo stuff going on that I've missed. With that said, lynching Craterus isn't exactly the worst move the town can make and taking down 3 mafia dons from that position will certainly feel like a victory, atleast for me.

Lynch, lynch, lynch. :bounce: :smash:

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- I think most promises Caius makes he does with fingers crossed - so he can say they don't count

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Wrong.

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Originally Posted by Caius

Wrong.

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Are you afraid of your master?:laugh4: Did he promise you to leave you alive?

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Originally Posted by Ironside

You wish, we still won't win, unless there's some really weirdo stuff going on that I've missed. With that said, lynching Craterus isn't exactly the worst move the town can make and taking down 3 mafia dons from that position will certainly feel like a victory, atleast for me.

Lynch, lynch, lynch. :bounce: :smash:

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I think thats a victory as well :2thumbsup:

And Caius, just vote Craterus already, its not like you will suddenly die when you vote him :no:

Indeed. Have the big bosses killed after all will feel like victory. :2thumbsup: :skull:

Btw, Caius, think of it. If you lynch Craterus, how is he going to do anything? He'll be dead, ya know..:idea2:

Well then,

Vote: CA
Select: Craterus

Good game all. I dont know why people keep expecting gibs and scott to turn on us...one of them is a made and i think the other is now too. So its impossible...there are all 5 of us. We kept our word, and did not kill any townies. So, thank you Caius. And people, we didnt kill EF!! Im saying it now and have said it the entire time..we did not do it.

Hey, just a polite request, on behalf of the host and other players who might find it helpful:

I just wondered if you all could stop the 'Crate's a traitor/coward' for a few minutes and keep a tally.

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Originally Posted by Louis

(Was Sasaki behind all of this? Who else can not only come up with a beautiful double-layered double-cross of both the town and four families at the same time, and execute it with military precision and discipline, AND be devious enough to convince those he betrayed or even had lynched that they should root for the people who just killed them. Sasaki was not a member of your family yet, was he, Kage? I think it is no mere coincidence that he has *ahem* joined the Cunnios now, tonight.)

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:laugh4:

I'm not behind anything. The respective dons make the decisions. I teamed up with the Barzini's because I wanted to make sure the townies got weakened enough. After that it's not too big a deal what happens. Two families will team up against another, that was guaranteed by the numbers. The dons and those who can become dons are the targets, I'm neither. There's really nothing to control. If gibson and scottish had wanted to win the game yesterday they could have, by joining the barzinis. If they want to win the game today by joining the cunnios they can. If they want to win tomorrow by forming a new family and lynching craterus they can. That's all the game comes down to at this point. Only the dons are forced to win with their own family. I'm just going to sit and see what happens, and then join the winning family.

Tally:

Crate 2(Sasaki - shlin)
CA 1(TP)

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Originally Posted by TruePraetorian

Well then,

Vote: CA
Select: Craterus

Good game all. I dont know why people keep expecting gibs and scott to turn on us...one of them is a made and i think the other is now too. So its impossible...there are all 5 of us. We kept our word, and did not kill any townies. So, thank you Caius. And people, we didnt kill EF!! Im saying it now and have said it the entire time..we did not do it.

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You should have killed EF if you had the chance. I figured the town would take care of that for us.

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I'm just going to sit and see what happens, and then join the winning family.

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Do you love winning, right? Thats not good, Sasaki, if you are with the Barzinis, then stick with them. Talking about me being a traitor...

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Originally Posted by Caius

Do you love winning, right? Thats not good, Sasaki, if you are with the Barzinis, then stick with them. Talking about me being a traitor...

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If there were barzini's left I would stick with them, even though I was only a member for 1 round out of 12 or so. Before that I just passed on information and tried to get townies lynched.

I think everyone should band together and lynch Sasaki just to deny him victory.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

I think everyone should band together and lynch Sasaki just to deny him victory.

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I got tincow lynched for you didn't I? Gosh, wheres the gratitude? :tongue3:

Yeah, but had you waited a round there would most likely have been the satisfaction of me personally getting him lynched.

YOU DENIED ME THAT SATISFACTION! YOU MUST PAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! :tongue:

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

I got tincow lynched for you didn't I? Gosh, wheres the gratitude? :tongue3:

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Err, I lynched tincow with that last minute votechagne.

Vote:Sasaki

Vote: CA
Select:Craterus

Crate 2(Sasaki - shlin)
CA 2(TP, Scott)

unvote

Scottish and gibson, you disappoint me, but so be it :bow:

Im dissapointed with the living mafia. I thought they were like Andres described them, but I find a bunch of scared people who will join forces, forgetting their own families to join the winning people...so they can be seen as winners, but they are cowards in the very deep.

If I were mafia I would be revenging those who planed the death for my family. And the guys who killed them too. Anyway, it wont matter, you win, right?

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Originally Posted by Caius

Im dissapointed with the living mafia. I thought they were like Andres described them, but I find a bunch of scared people who will join forces, forgetting their own families to join the winning people...so they can be seen as winners, but they are cowards in the very deep.

If I were mafia I would be revenging those who planed the death for my family. And the guys who killed them too. Anyway, it wont matter, you win, right?

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Thus spake the mafia betraying townie who's now voting for the remaining mafia Don as director again. Could someone go back through the thread and try and work out which side Caius thinks he should be on.... I suspect he's been on so many he can't remember himself now :laugh4:

*hint* if Seamus asks you who you are signed up for I don't think you can just say "the winning side"

EDIT: oops I missed a few layers of description, townie betraying, mafia betraying townie who's now voting for the remaining mafia Don as director again.

This was my last game of mafia. When i loose my temper over an game in internet. Like i did in the chat few minutes a go.Its not good anymore. I apologize if i have insulted someone.Thanks for this epic everybody.And fun games to the people who can stomach these games of deception, it seems i cant so its better for me to quit playing these.Thanks.:bow:

From the way I read the rules, it's easy for Craterus to deal with the driftwood who contributed little to their victory, but who may be useful in the last turn or two. Dons have to approve a person's inclusion in the family. Craterus can simply refuse to send that PM to Seamus, going so far as to fake one to the necessary people if they ask for it. If the Cunnio win, they should get the credit for themselves, not share it with people who shift sides every turn simply for bonus points. People like TP deserve massive credit for their work in this game and it would be unfair to give an equal amount of credit to those who have been Cunnio for 1 to 2 turns.

Craterus: Do your loyal family members a favor and reserve the winning points for them, even if you have to lie to the others in order to do so.