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I would like to remind everyone that the mafia can both switch thier votes at the last second and gain easy victory, if we go for sasaki in force now sasaki will be lynched and we have a much better townie to scum ratio to finish the game with.... one player with a late vote is alot less worrying than two...
Yes, the mathematics is simple. THIS LYNCH must get a mafioso or its over.
If the sentiment is that Sasaki is the one, then both townies and our neutral MUST vote for him. Any vote that does not feature all four Non-Sasaki votes as Votes on Sasaki can be turned.
If you're not sure its Sasaki, you still must settle on one name and vote heavy. Any divided vote is a loss on vote manipulation near the close of the round at 4am EDT.
I PM'd pevergreen asking for a suicide as I felt I couldn't fulfill my obligations in this game. He denied it, saying he didn't want to suicide anyone that late in the game.Quote:
Lord Winter and/or pevergreen:
Can you please clear up this whole suicide issue?
Vote: Sasski
It's obvious that he is the remaining grunt. Therefore by lynching him we get an extra round and more importantly an extra night kill to knock off more suspects.
Will do a read through and try to build a through case on El Diablo.
Screw it, let's roll the dice.
Unvote: Sasaki
Vote: El Diablo
Tie vote, 'khaan has the deciding vote.
Consider it night anyway.
For the record, I determined that El Diablo was our likely Godfather several hours ago. I just didn't say anything in the thread/change my vote until the last second in case Sasaki tried to do some more last-second manipulation.
Let's just hope that khaan follows through now.
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
For the record, I determined that El Diablo was our likely Godfather several hours ago. I just didn't say anything in the thread/change my vote until the last second in case Sasaki tried to do some more last-second manipulation.
Let's just hope that khaan follows through now.
So because we have now tied and noone has died this means the scum kill off a player tonight we have 2 bad guys and 2 other guys left next day round... the lynch is tied (or a non bad guy dies) and victory is the scums in the next round...
Is this right ?
Ohh hang on... when it says 'khaan has the deciding vote he means 'khaan picks who we lynch right ?
So as long as 'khaan picks right we can still win right...?
Intresting that GH saved sasaki at the last second... wouldn't you say...
Yup. Its night phase, but he still has to lynch.Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzlyOhh hang on... when it says 'khaan has the deciding vote he means 'khaan picks who we lynch right ?
Oh goody. I was able to grab a few winks of sleep and get to see the lynch out anyways! :applause:
Unvote: GeneralHankerchief
and...
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:Vote: Sasaki Kojiro
Lol!
I could actually feel the tension opening that series of spoilers...
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:Thank you for making the right choice!!
The finals days had come...the voting had come to a standstill, two seemingly opposite groups, with one voter in the middle.
'khaan cast his deciding vote on Sasaki Kojiro
pevergreen bound and gagged Sasaki and dragged him away.
Come morning, would more of them lay dead, or would the threat to the town be removed?
Alive:
GeneralHankerchief
Lord Winter
serierkhaan
El Diablo
Dead:
Publius Aelius Hadrianus
A Very Super Market
Jolt
taka
Polemists
gaelic cowboy
Alexander the Pretty Good
CountArach
Psychonaut
YLC
Captain Blackadder
greyblades
shlin28
Andres
Reenk Roink
Sigurd
Seamus
Askthepizzaguy
Diana Abnoba
boudica
LittleGrizzly
Lynched:
Beefy187
F.C is the bees knees
777ares777
Ituralde
yoyoma1910
White Eyes
Factionheir
Sasaki Kojiro
It is now Night 9. Orders please.
First why wasn't' GH killed a long time ago?
Second, you do realize that khaan probably needs to die for a town victory? Unless pever says so otherwise.
Sasaki was a good choice, but GH should have been killed before Atpg. :wall:
I'm pulling for Lord Winter and El Diablo though, if they win as Mafia, great job! :2thumbsup:
Eh, not too pleased about the choice khaan made. All that's going to happen is that the game'll be extended.
:driver:
btw:
:coffeenews:Quote:
This determination, read by Oswald in the morning paper, caused him to soak said paper in his morning coffee,
Well I guess it isn't too obvious...I'm the only one I've seen use that emoticon though.
Also, this was supposed to be the ending of the Andres kill:
But it got changed because Andres was joey...Quote:
He had just began to think it was his lucky day when he was roughly dragged from the carriage and across the grass to edge of the cliff. He attempted to struggle but was completely outmatched. Held by Oswald out over the edge of the cliff, with his feet dangling over the empty air and, far below, the rocky seashore and pounding surf, he looked into his attacker's eyes for the slightest hint of mercy, but found only mirth.
Returning to the carriage, Oswald found the girl sitting with her hands over her eyes, frightened by the roughness with which Andres had been dragged away.
"What did you do with him?", she asked.
"I let him go".
"I let him know" ~:confused: what was that supposed to mean pever?
You may have seen the movie it referenced. Couple other literature references as well.
And pizza, your google-fu let you down this game...
Commando :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki KojiroYou may have seen the movie it referenced.
WARNING! - LINK TO VIDEO WITH SOME BAD LANGUAGE
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Ooooh, a suspenseful ending. Loved the video link Andres. :yes:
Have we stuffed up?
Why is Sasaki not a named character in the lynch write up?
BTW GH is the other mafia. I know that now.
GH gave himself away when he went after WE well, not really since nobody jumped after him. :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by El DiabloBTW GH is the other mafia. I know that now.
No kidding:no:....but Seamus didn't conclude that one of the FIRST two people he sent his results, in case he was killed was a Godafather....and then as I thought, GH used me as a scapegoat with his grunt, Sasaki pushing for my lynch....Lucky break for GH....:shame:Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk RoinkGH gave himself away when he went after WE well, not really since nobody jumped after him. :wall:
I also thought that he was a Godfather, when he didn't respond to my PM about Sasaki being a grunt.....Looks like he threw his "Mike fingers" buddy under the bus.....thought he went out to quiet:inquisitive:(no "I am innocent it's just GH being paranoid....or I am a townie".....:smash::smash:
Thing is, he wasnt meant to be named...
So it was all suspenseful and everyone was going "Did we get him? :O:O:O:O"
hmmm....no.....Sasaki was guilty....RULE NO.2:grin2:Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreenThing is, he wasnt meant to be named...
So it was all suspenseful and everyone was going "Did we get him? :O:O:O:O"
Well, uh, I was innocent all along!Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreenThing is, he wasnt meant to be named...
So it was all suspenseful and everyone was going "Did we get him? :O:O:O:O"
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:think that ship has sailed...
The remaining members of Inishmore slept lightly, not knowing if it was all over or if they still had some time left.
They gathered in the morning and waited. All except GeneralHankerchief turned up.
When they looked around, he had been pinned to his front door with arrows, shot from a longbow. The longbow was left in the kitchen.
All knew this was the last chance they had.
Alive:
Lord Winter
serierkhaan
El Diablo
Dead:
Publius Aelius Hadrianus
A Very Super Market
Jolt
taka
Polemists
gaelic cowboy
Alexander the Pretty Good
CountArach
Psychonaut
YLC
Captain Blackadder
greyblades
shlin28
Andres
Reenk Roink
Sigurd
Seamus
Askthepizzaguy
Diana Abnoba
boudica
LittleGrizzly
GeneralHankerchief
Lynched:
Beefy187
F.C is the bees knees
777ares777
Ituralde
yoyoma1910
White Eyes
Factionheir
Sasaki Kojiro
It is now Day 10. It is the final day. One remains among you who has the power to kill, remove him for victory.
(Im posting this now, as Im going out soon.)
Vote: El Diablo
GH is a very strange kill, he was second on my suspect list.
More to come latter.
Also, the fact that we are still playing confirms that Sasski was a grunt, as we had two mafiosos last time.
hmmm.....didn't the Welsh come up with the long bow first...???:book: but then Khaan would not have thrown Sasaki under the bus then....:shrug: Lord Winter or El Diablo.....which one????:inquisitive:Quote:
The longbow was left in the kitchen.
Edit:After thinking about it....only El Diablo stands out....I can't find anything too heavy on Khaan or Lord Winter:shrug: ~:cheers: to whoever wins....:bow:
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 254
04-04-2009 10:35 AM ET (US)
Hmm I understand what you're saying. But the dramatic peak of the game was the round boudica got lynched. Every game has a peak, and after that it always goes downhill. Capo II the round kukri got lynched, settlement when jolt was lynched and iffo killed, GF3 when it was decided that the dead would vote. That ship has sailed.
As it is, you're suggesting that GH and I argue for khaan's lynch without somehow revealing anything.
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pevergreen 253
04-04-2009 10:20 AM ET (US)
don't reveal.
Come on...the idea is the town DOESNT know who you are. They shouldnt know if GH was the GF or not.
Not happy Sasaki.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 252
04-04-2009 08:53 AM ET (US)
You'll have to post the kill you wrote sometime.
It's funny, I was going to suggest you send in your kill asap like I did with seamus, but I figured khaan wouldn't have tipped his hand like that if he could kill at night. All he had to do was lynch el diablo and then kill you?
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Ituralde 251
04-04-2009 06:38 AM ET (US)
Great game! Congratulations to you two. I wish I could have played a larger part in the grand sheme, but my internet time wouldn't allow for more.
It's been fun to try my hands at one of these Mafia games again. I'll see when I find the time to try my hands at the next.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 250
04-04-2009 01:09 AM ET (US)
Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 249
04-03-2009 08:20 PM ET (US)
This is the first game as mafia where I've actually written kills, was quite enjoyable. And having offed the IRA, a serial killer, and a welshman we've done our duty by the loyal citizens of great britain that the irish are.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 248
04-03-2009 06:52 PM ET (US)
Great game, guys. It's been a pleasure to play with you. Whether or not we officially won or lost, I think we accomplished our mission to the best of our abilities.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 247
04-03-2009 10:26 AM ET (US)
heh, enjoy :)
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 246
04-03-2009 10:23 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-03-2009 10:23 AM
Well, especially now that he offed Sasaki, yeah. This one's gonna be brutal.
pevergreen 245
04-03-2009 05:58 AM ET (US)
your gunna kill him no matter what?
GHPerson was signed in when posted 244
04-03-2009 04:07 AM ET (US)
Hmm, not an ideal situation with khaan still casting a tiebreaker, but he's in an even worse position. He votes for El Diablo, he dies. He votes for Sasaki, he dies.
No mercy, not even if he saves our butts in the end. Consider it his penalty for dragging us on like this.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 243
04-03-2009 03:57 AM ET (US)
Well, I didn't stay up until 4AM on a Thursday night to *not* cast a vote.
Let's do this.
pevergreen 242
04-03-2009 02:40 AM ET (US)
maybe everyone gets lynched? XD
GHPerson was signed in when posted 241
04-03-2009 01:31 AM ET (US)
No lynch, double lynch. Nice trend. :P
pevergreen 240
04-03-2009 01:24 AM ET (US)
you dont get to know, but look at the trend :P
GHPerson was signed in when posted 239
04-03-2009 01:15 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-03-2009 01:15 AM
I suppose it's too much to ask what you'll do in the case of a tie.
-edit- Haha, nice. G'night Sasaki.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 238
04-03-2009 01:14 AM ET (US)
Don't suppose you'll tell us what happens in the event of a tie? lol
Going to bed... think that's our best shot GH.
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pevergreen 237
04-03-2009 01:01 AM ET (US)
round ends at exactly 6:00pm here. Anything on 6:00 counts, 6:01 does not, same as I said sasaki. Thats 3 hours away.
I didnt give the quicktopic to him :P
If it gets down to 4, you win. any more questions, im here from now until the lynch.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 236
04-03-2009 12:27 AM ET (US)
Intuition that he knew wouldn't fly so he backed it up with fake proof? Hahaha.
Most of the round will take place on a Saturday. Maybe the other two won't log on and I'll be the only one voting.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 235
04-03-2009 12:24 AM ET (US)
Sure, but what would his motivation be? He got killed by us...therefore he is our enemy...
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 234
04-03-2009 12:22 AM ET (US)
And we can point out that we faked chat logs in Capo I.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 233
04-03-2009 12:21 AM ET (US)
I have a feeling khaan has enough chat logs to get you lynched if that's the case.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 232
04-03-2009 12:17 AM ET (US)
If it doesn't go our way, though... I stick out like a sore thumb. At least if I keep hidden there's a chance of me surviving in the next round.
Well, I have a few hours to make my decision at any rate. :P
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 231
04-03-2009 12:11 AM ET (US)
Eh, I think you could reasonably go for a tie. And who knows, maybe we'd both be saved, maybe, we'd both die, maybe pever flips a coin, maybe there's a "next vote decides it"--basically either we win with a tie or it's no worse than a regular lynch.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 230
04-03-2009 12:01 AM ET (US)
Okay, I'll stay up and make my switch then if necessary. If khaan doesn't switch then I won't try for a tie - instead, we'll kill khaan and you might do something we talked about in the PM.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 229
04-02-2009 11:59 PM ET (US)
hmm well, I have two votes on me besides yours. So we could only tie it between khaan and myself. I have a feeling khaan will switch his vote before then though, and I'd really rather not stay up till 4 am.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 228
04-02-2009 11:52 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-02-2009 11:54 PM
Out of curiosity, *will* you be on for the deadline (still don't know when that is... c'mon pever)?
-edit- And I don't know... you can't underestimate the shock value of a surprise lynch. I'm sure that's the last thing he thinks will happen to him.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 227
04-02-2009 11:49 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-03-2009 12:20 AM
I say we kill him at night--that way we can insult him in the write up. The pen is mighter than the sword lol.
And we might as well wait and see. Tell him to ask pever if we're allowed to kill him if it gets down to four and the game is over.
"Khaan limped hurriedly down the street, his gimp leg causing him to hobble along with an awkward gait. His drunkenness had started another argument with his wife over his general slobbishness and unemployment, and in his anger he had slapped her in the face. The resulting fight left him bruised and sobbing, as it always did when he and his wife fought, for he was a frail man and quite short, besides being hampered by his leg. Now, with tears in his eyes, he walked as quickly as he could towards the one pub that still gave him credit.
Out of an alley ahead of him a man appeared, dressed in a neat suit and carrying a pistol in each hand. Khaan realized that he was going to die. A man with any sense of dignity would stand up and bravely face his killer, but khaan was not that man. He let out a wail of fright and ran as fast as his stumpy little legs would carry him. He didn't make it 10 paces before he tripped and fell into the gutter, which he desperately crawled along, thinking of nothing but escaping death.
Behind him he heard the click of a safety being turned off and at that moment the terror became to much for him and he passed out and drowned in the mixture of urine, vomit, and spilt beer that filled the gutter to a considerable height"
you get the idea...
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 226
04-02-2009 11:22 PM ET (US)
Let's lynch him.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 225
04-02-2009 11:20 PM ET (US)
I bet you anything khaan's going to say something along the lines of "I was going to string you along for a round and then vote on your side when we got to three". Too bad I don't roll that way though.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 224
04-02-2009 10:17 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-02-2009 11:03 PM
Eh, the more I think about it, the less he makes sense.
If you kill him, he says he'll out you and you'll lose.
But if he's alive, El Diablo will have no one to vote other than you--because he knows that he's innocent and that khaan is not the brit godfather.
So why does he expect you to let him live?
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eh well, if he doesn't change his vote today we can tie it up and see what happens. No lynch or double lynch, either one gives us victory.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 223
04-02-2009 10:16 PM ET (US)
Suicidal spite moves FTW!!!
Lord Winter and El Diablo, premature congratulations.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 222
04-02-2009 10:04 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-02-2009 10:11 PM
Oh yeah. If he isn't going to play along this round he's not going to play around the next. Tell him you'll never post the quicktopic if he doesn't vote el diablo :)
Presumably he has more than one victory condition, one involving being the sole survivor--so he'd like to survive tonight, and get you lynched tomorrow.
If he doesn't want to get killed he should vote with us...
Eh, not a fan of detectives. Particularly not ones who can find the godfather. That's kind of the appeal of having a godfather in a game.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 221
04-02-2009 10:01 PM ET (US)
Because khaan likes being the epicenter of power and he's threatened to out me if I kill him.
Personally I'm debating doing just that if he doesn't play along this round.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 220
04-02-2009 09:47 PM ET (US)
This is so silly. If we have the majority vote what are we messing around for?
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 219
04-02-2009 07:47 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-02-2009 07:56 PM
khaan has just brought up some scenarios of what might happen if Sasaki gets lynched. Depending if we keep this line of conversation going, I think I'll be able to tell whether he's seen the Quicktopic or not.
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Shinseikhaan: oh
Shinseikhaan: make sure to reveal your quicktopic when this is finished
Shinseikhaan: I wanna see it
Hahahahahaha, this game really needs to end.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 218
04-02-2009 07:41 PM ET (US)
hmm lol I think khaan may have been coy with me earlier because he hadn't seen the quicktopic to know for sure that I was mafia. Pever you should clarify on that...the "sweatdrop" implies you did send it.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 217
04-02-2009 07:40 PM ET (US)
'kay, khaan *says* he's going to change over to El D sometime later after I let him know I'd be around at the deadline to make a final judgment call. We'll see if he follows up on his promise.
pever, if you read this before you end things, an answer to my question in #212 would be wonderful.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 216
04-02-2009 07:05 PM ET (US)
Oh no, I know. Just making a dry joke.
Well, Lord Winter's in and voting for Sasaki. Time to PM khaan.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 215
04-02-2009 06:19 PM ET (US)
Well, pever didn't actually say that he sent it to him. Thing is though, if hosts do that, the mafia are just going to make their own quicktopic and not let the host enjoy reading it as the game progresses.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 214
04-02-2009 06:00 PM ET (US)
Next time I'm mafia, I'm resorting to emails.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 213
04-02-2009 05:14 PM ET (US)
hahahaha...if that's case I'm sure he's vastly enjoyed all our speculation.
Anyway...khaan if you're reading this, take the last few posts as a "suggestion" that you vote for el diablo.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 212
04-02-2009 05:14 PM ET (US)
pever, can you confirm if the round will end exactly on the hour?
pevergreen 211
04-02-2009 04:57 PM ET (US)
On that note...I'll laugh my ass off if it turns out pever gave him the link to our quicktopic when we accepted him as an ally.
:sweatdrop:
Sasaki 210
04-02-2009 04:34 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-02-2009 04:41 PM
Shoot the craven cur down in the gutter while he flees inishmore like the sewer rat that he is.
On that note...I'll laugh my ass off if it turns out pever gave him the link to our quicktopic when we accepted him as an ally.
eh, if he votes with us today and is just voting you for now to be inscrutable, I'll say let him live. edit: except of course, we don't know his exact role.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 209
04-02-2009 04:18 PM ET (US)
Well, khaan's dead either way. Even if El Diablo's lynched this round, I'm making it a point to pever to kill him off anyway. Lousy deadweight.
Sasaki 208
04-02-2009 03:56 PM ET (US)
Well, I doubt any of the others will be online then. And last night should have proven I know how to get my vote in right before deadline. Pizza not being in time had nothing to do with his "rusty trigger finger" lol...
If khaan's victory condition is survival, the way that usually works is that they don't get killed in an endgame scenario. Don't see why he wouldn't vote for el diablo though. If he comes online ask him to switch.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 207
04-02-2009 03:30 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-02-2009 03:46 PM
Sasaki, you should switch your vote off El Diablo "sort of" before the deadline and then switch it back. That way if anyone's on they'll think it's your final switch.
-edit- preferably on me, just in case there is a backfire.
Sasaki 206
04-02-2009 03:05 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-02-2009 03:08 PM
Well, getting a vote from someone who knows your role through investigation doesn't count.
If LW votes el diablo, we win with your vote switch. If he doesn't show up, we win with your vote switch. If he votes for me, tell khaan that you'll kill him tonight if he doesn't switch votes to el diablo. Don't believe khaan is on our side personally. You can tell khaan that if I get lynched you'll have to kill him because it's know that he isn't the godfather. He should realize that...was being coy in pm's earlier today.
However...don't be hasty in threatening him. He could have the chat log saved.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 205
04-02-2009 02:16 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-02-2009 02:19 PM
Dance, puppets, dance. Muahahahaha.
I'm just mad at khaan right now - I wanted to go through the game without getting a single vote. And I'm still not sure about his true identity. And he won't go on Steam. Argh.
I'll most likely be on to do a last-second vote switch too.
Current vote count:
Sasaki: 1 (GH)
El Diablo: 1 (Sasaki)
GH: 1 (khaan)
Not voting: 2 (El Diablo, Winter)
I think if Winter shows up he'll vote for El D.
Sasaki 204
04-02-2009 01:53 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-02-2009 01:53 PM
"If Sasaki is voting El Diablo, El Diablo probably is his Godfather."
When will people learn rule #1? :D
GHPerson was signed in when posted 203
04-02-2009 08:44 AM ET (US)
Reeeallllly subtle game commentary indeed, haha.
khaan has been annoyingly offline.
pevergreen 202
04-02-2009 08:18 AM ET (US)
just a warning, after the night phase, I'm stealing from GH and doing false endings, so don't be confused.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 201
04-01-2009 05:10 PM ET (US)
"not my fault about australia"
Oh, I don't mind too much. Quite enjoyed dropping the vote change with 2 seconds to spare. Not fast enough pizza, not fast enough.
I see. Makes for a fun finish. Though if khaan is voting our way we aren't in any danger.
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pevergreen 200
04-01-2009 04:57 PM ET (US)
not my fault about australia
Also, after an hour of discussion amongst myself and 3 neutral people, it was determined that khaan does not count towards your total, so you need to get 4 people left, so survive this day phase, then the suspense night, then you win.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 199
04-01-2009 04:54 PM ET (US)
Included some reaaally subtle game commentary in the LG kill, we'll see if anyone catches it...
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 198
04-01-2009 02:50 PM ET (US)
Manipulation City over here. This last round could be fun.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 197
04-01-2009 11:54 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-01-2009 08:06 PM
"El Diablo DID NOT WANT TO SWITCH HIS VOTE OFF OF BOUDICA.
El Diablo is your man."
bahahaha!
"You up for a last-second deadline pusher if it comes down to that?"
pever and his time zones. Although I may be sleepy enough after last night to get in a good nights sleep Before 4 am.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 196
04-01-2009 11:46 AM ET (US)
It's Wednesday now.
Day phase begins early Thursday morning (4AM my time). Day phase ends early Friday morning.
My only class on Friday is at 3:35 - I can go to bed as late as I want. You up for a last-second deadline pusher if it comes down to that?
GHPerson was signed in when posted 195
04-01-2009 11:20 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 04-01-2009 11:25 AM
I'll talk to him.
I'm thinking the town will go for the safe play next round and lynch you, TBH. If this does happen then I'd feel safer with two known quantities (Winter and El D as the scapegoat) than with khaan essentially deciding the game.
-edit- All right, ATPG's doing our work for us. Drown everybody out!
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 194
04-01-2009 11:12 AM ET (US)
I'd rather lose to khaan than the town. Anyway...I'll probably stay out of voting. But really, there will be two townies and two of us, so it depends on khaan. It can't hurt to butter him up a bit in case his role gives him the option of joining us or winning on his own.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 193
04-01-2009 11:04 AM ET (US)
LG kill, push for an El Diablo lynch. I think Winter will be more malleable to this prospect.
If the game still doesn't end (assuming you're not the lynch), I'll kill khaan. I'd rather lose to town than him.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 192
04-01-2009 10:35 AM ET (US)
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Game not over...ergo khaan is not our ally. Perhaps he's some sort of late blooming serial killer...huh. You should prod him a bit on his role.
Well, maybe it will be over once we've sent the kill in. I'm optimistic like that. Maybe khaan's goal really is just a survivor.
I'll kill LittleGrizzly.
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 191
04-01-2009 04:09 AM ET (US)
I'm disappointed. The wimpy IRA didn't have the guts to push the deadline, they tied it up with a good 4 minutes to spare. Anyway...if khaan is on our side we win. Else, el diablo is the best choice for lynch, since he voted me and then switched to boudica.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 190
03-31-2009 11:56 PM ET (US)
Well, you're not hitting me at all. But frankly, I don't think any of the town is going to bother looking into it too closely.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 189
03-31-2009 10:39 PM ET (US)
hmm, trying not to overdo it in my pushing lynches other than boudica. Hard to tell though.
Yup, Jane Austen.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 188
03-31-2009 08:17 PM ET (US)
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You said you plagiarized Jane Austen, right? I think I'll try Charlotte Bronte for my kill.
-edit- just read Seamus's post. Good thing you got that early kill in. Wonder if Andres is ripping ATPG/Diana a new one in the IRA Quicktopic.
Sasaki 187
03-31-2009 06:11 PM ET (US)
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the movement seems to be to lynch me and boudica today. As long as it isn't a tie we should be good.
Actually...even if it is a tie. 9 alive. if diana, pizza, me and boudica all get killed, and you kill someone tonight, that leaves 4 alive. As long as khaan is really an ally...
GHPerson was signed in when posted 186
03-31-2009 05:41 PM ET (US)
Actually, this game's starting to remind me a bit of Godfather 2 with our hopeful lynch line-up. In that game it was Seamus (alleged mafioso of rival faction), CR (person who everybody thought was the GF who we threw under the bus) and then finally Myrddraal (grunt, but better than the GF).
Hopefully this time it'll go LG-boudica-you, although this time we have a round or so's advantage.
Vindication, finally?
GHPerson was signed in when posted 185
03-31-2009 05:09 PM ET (US)
Oh man, there's going to be fireworks at the end of this one. If ATPG's telling the truth, nobody will ever want to work with him as mafioso again.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 184
03-31-2009 03:26 PM ET (US)
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Now pizza is claiming diana as godfather...heh. I don't agree with him blaming it on the rule though. Diana was doomed from the moment pizza was caught as mafia.
We should still lynch little grizzly though.
I don't understand pizza. I would be much happier if this is a plot to save LG. Otherwise he revealed himself and diana on the basis of my pretense that boudica was my godfather.
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 183
03-31-2009 03:09 PM ET (US)
The big wild card is still khaan of course...My hope is that he goes over to our side once the irish are removed.
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 182
03-31-2009 02:52 PM ET (US)
Yeah, but I LG is more likely to be the GF than boudica.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 181
03-31-2009 02:48 PM ET (US)
Blah... but that can be just as easily accomplished with a Diana kill and a boudica lynch.
Not like I care, since you'll still be alive, but still.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 180
03-31-2009 02:35 PM ET (US)
hmm that's true. Just make sure your arguments support lynching who you want to lynch. I would say it's important to guarantee as much as possible removing one godfather, hence diana kill and LG lynch being the best move.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 179
03-31-2009 02:26 PM ET (US)
I don't want to be joined at the hip with you... once the town realizes that boudica is innocent, they'll be looking for other connections with you. Enter me.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 178
03-31-2009 02:24 PM ET (US)
It's true that we should kill diana regardless...I just wonder if it's better for you to keep a bit quieter about grand conclusions. Maybe you should go with the line "pizza is admitting his guilt, we should lynch LG and kill diana".
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 177
03-31-2009 02:14 PM ET (US)
I'm about to post in the thread naming you and Pizza as grunts and your possible Godfathers. I'll say that there's two possible IRA GFs (Diana and LG) and one English GF.
Therefore, my conclusion will be that we should kill Diana regardless and get either LG or boudica lynched.
Accurate?
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 176
03-31-2009 02:11 PM ET (US)
He's just happy to have have discovered that boudica was the english godfather.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 175
03-31-2009 01:53 PM ET (US)
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Hmm...
Plus it would explain the Life/Death thing that pever's doing.
God, I love and hate endgames.
-edit- the trick is to stay cerebral through it. ATPG's finally cranked up the merry-go-round, and it shows.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 174
03-31-2009 01:48 PM ET (US)
I'm a bit worried about diana. If she got chosen as godfather she'd choose pizza guy as a grunt for sure.
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GH 173
03-31-2009 01:44 PM ET (US)
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IF LG IS LYNCHED:
Kill El Diablo at night. We're probably the sole remaining mafia faction now (Pizzaguy flees). Lynch boudica.
IF BOUDICA IS LYNCHED:
Kill LG early at night. The IRA will probably kill you so make sure you get your kill in early. This is what I'm worried about, as it will be me, khaan, El Diablo, Diana, and Lord Winter IIRC. Maybe you. I'll probably push for an El Diablo lynch, or possibly you depending on circumstances. We do not want this to happen.
IF SASAKI IS LYNCHED:
I kill LG, IRA kills boudica. Don't have to worry about the order. I push for El D.
IF A COMBINATION IS LYNCHED:
If LG is part of the combination, we kill a lurker. Otherwise, we kill LG. If boudica happens to be alive we push for her.
Naturally, if khaan is on our side and can actually kill (doubtful) this changes the variables. I think our best hope is to push for a solo LG lynching. However, this will kind of be difficult to achieve as the only ones that are voting him for the moment are you and I.
The worst possible combination would be a Sasaki/boudica double lynch.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 172
03-31-2009 01:36 PM ET (US)
When the godfather is lynched, their henchmen flee. Lynch LG, kill one someone at night...we are down to six. If khaan is on our side we win...otherwise we lynch boudica.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 171
03-31-2009 01:33 PM ET (US)
Okay, don't forget that our goal is to outlast town as well as mafia. If this round turns into an apocalyptic bloodbath then there will be a bunch of lurkers left... and me.
I think we should try to mess up the lynch tally at the end so that only Pizza is lynched. IRA whacks boudica at night, we hit a lurker. Lynch LG the next day.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 170
03-31-2009 01:33 PM ET (US)
Yes...now I must argue against a tie. Because I would not want my godfather in a tie.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 169
03-31-2009 01:23 PM ET (US)
Pizza: "Boudica is your Godfather."
Game... set...
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 168
03-31-2009 01:21 PM ET (US)
Well the way I am posting..."LG and boudica are the likely godfathers, oh wait let me defend boudica here, yup the two of them are most likely, oh look, I'm voting for littlegrizzly" should implicate boudica...lynching those two + pizza fleeing when his godfather gets killed should be an instant win situation. If messuir "welsh boxer" is on our side.
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GH 167
03-31-2009 01:18 PM ET (US)
Any triple lynch not involving me would be amazing. We just need to make sure to leave enough lynchbait targets left alive to put the finger on afterwards.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 166
03-31-2009 01:14 PM ET (US)
hmm, I think everyone will believe that that pizza and I are the two grunts.
I just have to swing so that they think that boudica is my godfather. Then we can lynch boudica and LG.
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 165
03-31-2009 12:06 PM ET (US)
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heh. I literally have no case on who the english mafia might be. I am, however, perfectly content to be seen as the english grunt as long as the believe boudica is my godfather. Lynching LG and boudica together could win us the game. Would really like boudica to be lynched. The round where she and pizza are tied has me worried.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 164
03-31-2009 10:57 AM ET (US)
Bite your tongue. It's when people seem fairly safe that things go wrong.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 163
03-31-2009 10:47 AM ET (US)
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Interesting. You seem to be IN HORRIBLE DANGER.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 162
03-31-2009 09:50 AM ET (US)
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Hmm, too early to tell yet. My vote is to tell him to "combine forces" and then we'll go the other way. I'm willing to sacrifice khaan at this point.
-edit- especially since nowhere in the Role PM he quoted to me did it mention any kind of name other than "Protestant Sympathizer"
Ituralde 161
03-31-2009 09:38 AM ET (US)
Another one from Andres:
'khaan seems to be a pro-town role. Any idea why the attempt could have failed?
Combine forces to take him out or do you guys give it another try to see if you're more lucky, while we off somebody else?
Cheers,
Andres
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 160
03-31-2009 04:39 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-31-2009 04:43 AM
hmm very interesting. Khaan is going to get lynched today I believe. What with andres claiming that godfathers can survive a kill attempt...
Also, I believe pizza guy is guilty. LG could still be the godfather though...in fact it fits with pizza's cop out "I just don't see the case on LG" and with LG protecting pizza guy all game. The kill choices fit pizza to a T. Suspicious of seamus--attempt on seamus. Mega suspicious of reenk--reenk gets killed. Suspicious of khaan, attempt on khaan. It was clear from the start that he'd read the wikipedia article which pever sent us. And his general attitude...less wild reconsidering of himself and others than in the other games.
However--I can see myself getting into a huge amount of trouble if I try to bring this accusation in thread. Because I don't think I can hide the fact that I'm only looking for Irish mafia. lol.
Ok. My plan is to do a big summary, and accuse khaan of being the english godfather and lord winter of being oswald, along with LG as the irish godfather and pizza as brendan.
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 159
03-30-2009 11:43 PM ET (US)
yes...keyboard is annoying me. the d,l,n,t,u, , and backspace keys short out or something. Then work. Then break.
"Yeah, but a certain amount (? don't know what eeme was) of luck is what makes games fun. Either way it's been a good game. Pleased that I get to off donney at least"
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 158
03-30-2009 07:51 PM ET (US)
Hahahaha
I got this out of it: "Yeah ??????????????? is what makes games fun. Either way it's been a good game. Pleased that I'd ?? off Joey at least."
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 157
03-30-2009 07:37 PM ET (US)
Yeah b a creai eeme of ck is wha makes games f. Eiher way i's bee a goo game. Pase ha I' ge o off oey a eas.
Sorry my keyboar is messe p. Hope ha was a eas somewha ersabe
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 156
03-30-2009 07:19 PM ET (US)
I have a very bad feeling about tonight.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 155
03-30-2009 04:08 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-30-2009 04:11 PM
Askthepizzaguy
LittleGrizzly--innocent result
GeneralHankerchief--english godfather
Sasaki Kojiro--english henchman
Lord Winter
Seamus--donney
serierkhaan--possible ally
Diana Abnoba
boudica--innocent result
Sigurd--Wog
El Diablo--innocent result
diana--lord winter--pizza. One of these three is the grunt. If I had to pick, I'd say lord winter, for his fake lurking despite having read carefully dealio. I'd pick LG for godfather. Ideally, none of us will die tonight. If so, there will be 8 alive, and lynching the enemy godfather will win the game (if khaan is our ally). If we lynch the grunt it's possible the "kill in first" rule still applies and we can hit the godfather before he kills us...
Of course, we could also lynch a townie and two more townies could die at night, leaving khaan to decide the game. Lol.
Depending on who dies...might push a lord winter lynch.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 154
03-30-2009 03:37 PM ET (US)
Ah, right, I forgot Reenk died.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 153
03-30-2009 03:35 PM ET (US)
But seamus said he was going to investigate me next...
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 152
03-30-2009 02:42 PM ET (US)
I mean that if Seamus says he's going to investigate somebody, he's not going to investigate somebody else instead to throw people off. This is especially the case if he thinks he's going to die.
Ituralde 151
03-30-2009 02:34 PM ET (US)
I sent Andres the message saying we're killing Seamus btw.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 150
03-30-2009 02:16 PM ET (US)
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hmm, don't know what you mean by switcheroo. But I think I'll stick with seamus, don't want him getting a result on me or khaan.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 149
03-30-2009 01:49 PM ET (US)
No, he hasn't. But he also posted that list before a lot of the whole current brouhaha happened. Plus, I don't believe Seamus is the person that would pull a switcheroo like that, especially if he thinks he's going down this round.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 148
03-30-2009 01:42 PM ET (US)
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He posted a list of who he was going to investigate next and it was "reenk, sasaki, atpg". Has he been pm'ing you?
The kill I wrote is Seamus specific :/
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 147
03-30-2009 01:33 PM ET (US)
I think you should change it. Seamus, due to current events and his trust with Reenk, will investigate ATPG. He's of no threat to us even if he lives this round.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 146
03-30-2009 01:27 PM ET (US)
Seamus.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 145
03-30-2009 01:15 PM ET (US)
Sasaki: Who is your current kill victim?
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 144
03-30-2009 12:21 PM ET (US)
I think I've succeeded in shifting some attention from you to me...
The double lynch is fantastic luck. It makes the numbers game a lot simpler, and davey getting lynched is a bonus. If there are two kills tonight we'll have 7 left tomorrow.
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 143
03-30-2009 09:47 AM ET (US)
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You should pm him back and say that we're taking out Seamus. Andres is just fishing to see if GH is the godfather.
Donney, davey and mairead are dead. The don't think GH is a protown role.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 142
03-30-2009 09:06 AM ET (US)
Interesting turn of events.
I would just not respond. We really need to take out the Godfather tonight. Sasaki, I suggest you take your kill off Seamus and put it on whoever you believe has the best chance of being the IRA Godfather. At this point, they are our greater enemies.
Ituralde 141
03-30-2009 05:32 AM ET (US)
I recieved the following PM from Andres today:
Hi Ituralde,
Seamus revealed as detective, so I assume your mafia family considers to take him out.
We have reasons to believe GH has a pro-town role as well (or he's the detective instead of Seamus).
Just so none of us wastes a kill... which mafia family is going to kill Seamus and which family is going to take out GeneralHankerchief?
Cheers,
Andres.
pevergreen 140
03-30-2009 04:44 AM ET (US)
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 139
03-30-2009 12:26 AM ET (US)
1130-1131 cracks me up.
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 138
03-29-2009 11:37 PM ET (US)
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Would prefer LG. Thing is, with boudica and LG both innocent, then it's hard to say that white_eyes thought I was attacking his henchmen. Then the tell goes away...
reenk, yes, that's what I mean...decides to defend white_eyes --> decides to attack you
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 137
03-29-2009 11:24 PM ET (US)
Personally I've learned not to believe anything Reenk says like that, whether he's mafia or town, no matter the context. Usually when I'm town I just ignore him.
Anyway, WE is actually convincing me that he's innocent. We may be going up the wrong track here.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 136
03-29-2009 11:02 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-29-2009 11:12 PM
Andres's accusation of LG evens it out. I can see LG as the irish godfather.
Reenk is just attacking you because of some thing he has with we's..."I know who he is, he's playing you but doesn't deserve to be killed"
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 135
03-29-2009 09:58 PM ET (US)
Well, trust Reenk to complicate things. All of a sudden we have a lot more at stake on White_eyes being GF.
Even if we're wrong I doubt he'll be a problem, though.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 134
03-29-2009 06:06 PM ET (US)
hmm, ok, kill on Seamus sent in.
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pevergreen 133
03-29-2009 04:32 PM ET (US)
1) Does the detective get a result on the night that we kill him that he is allowed to share? I'll most likely do it off time, so if you're in before him, no.
2) When is Sigurd scheduled for WoG? *sigh* I guess end of the night phase.
3) When does khaan get a kill ability? I can't reveal anything about his role.
Nice pick with Andres though.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 132
03-29-2009 04:11 PM ET (US)
Yeah, I knew he was referring to seamus as well. Didn't connect the dots with mairead-donney though...lol.
The day is a success at any rate.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 131
03-29-2009 04:02 PM ET (US)
And the bandwagon is on.
Reenk's constant reference to his Bible Killer ally (which is Seamus; they were partners in Mafia V when Seamus killed and left biblical quotes) could point to me once Seamus as he very well knows I know my history, but I'm not worried.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 130
03-29-2009 03:01 PM ET (US)
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Yeah...that's why I want to know about the result. He seems to be getting them early. But, we have to be careful about assuming khaan is on our side.
13 alive. Let's say we kill seamus to be safe, WE's isn't the godfather, and sigurd get's wog'd. The irish target seamus as well, that would leave 10 alive. Now, to kill 4 more, we would have to lynch a townie, then kill the irish godfather and hope they don't kill one of us. Now, if we kill someone other than seamus, it gives us an extra shot at the godfather and we have 9 alive the final day...so we can lynch the godfather OR his grunt OR a townie and still have a chance at victory that night. Ugh, too many possibilities.
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Yes...it's much easier if WE's is the GF. Then we win with one more lynch, a sigurd WoG, and a khaan kill. The only way that khaan's role really makes sense is if he can choose sides.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 129
03-29-2009 02:54 PM ET (US)
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I was thinking that if WE wasn't our man, we could take the risk, hope that the IRA offs Seamus, and concenrate on the below list, but we have to assume that they're totally in the dark.
Diana's twigged my radar for some time now. I suggest she go first, then FH.
-edit- though I really believe that WE is our guy. You'll note that EVERY SINGLE PERSON on the Lemur list is still alive.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 128
03-29-2009 02:12 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-29-2009 02:55 PM
Yes...I saw you were posting and hurried to make mine. Didn't think the timing would work out quite that well though, lol.
Well, we don't want to get to far ahead of ourselves by assuming WE's is the GF. He's acted odd, but the fact is boudica and LG aren't Irish grunts...so I don't know who I could have been pursuing that he would refer to.
QUESTIONS FOR PEVER:
1) Does the detective get a result on the night that we kill him that he is allowed to share?
2) When is Sigurd scheduled for WoG?
3) When does khaan get a kill ability?
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 127
03-29-2009 02:10 PM ET (US)
Hahaha, great timing on our White_eyes posts.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 126
03-29-2009 12:58 PM ET (US)
New Lemur PM:
"Night the Sixth, Boudica innocent"
GHPerson was signed in when posted 125
03-29-2009 11:30 AM ET (US)
Agreed.
I'm also going to get my White_eyes case going.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 124
03-29-2009 10:16 AM ET (US)
Amazed that they actually killed reenk. Mairead being gone is a major score. I bet they thought he was the godfather.
I'm more annoyed that my punchline got ruined than pleased by offing joey. Oh well...
Donny dies tonight, but how about this:
The rumour of the town was "I'm not Donney, I'm Davey! Boudica is innocent."
Seems seamus can have messages sent out as rumors. Well, he dies tonight.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 123
03-27-2009 11:39 PM ET (US)
Blah, not gonna be able to post it tonight. Too much to do still and I'm tired already.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 122
03-27-2009 08:59 PM ET (US)
So that means there's a distinct possibility of Seamus investigating both Godfathers on the first two turns... that's just insane.
pevergreen 121
03-27-2009 08:18 PM ET (US)
Grunts always come up guilty.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 120
03-27-2009 05:37 PM ET (US)
Well, it doesn't make too much sense to have it tied to activity. Would greatly weaken the detective.
Also, I don't think the detective would have sent the information out to people if 2/3 of the mafia showed up innocent.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 119
03-27-2009 05:29 PM ET (US)
I know this is reaching somewhat, but I still want to be cautious:
We're not sure of the Detective's particulars. Yes, I was found innocent, and Ituralde guilty, but that was on the one night he killed. If Seamus investigated Ituralde on an off night, there might have been an innocent result on him. Which means there's still a chance of him being grunt.
QUESTION TO PEVER: Can we get clarification on this?
Anyway, I think it goes without saying that we should give Pizza a breather next night phase :P
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 118
03-27-2009 05:26 PM ET (US)
Pizza's got himself all confused.
Anyway, here's how I see it. WE was found innocent by the detective and therefore can only be the godfather if he's mafia. He claims I've only been going after Irish killers while ignoring english ones. He would have no way of knowing who I was going after if he was a townie.
If he's mafia, we lynch the IRA godfather and they can't kill you.
If he's townie, he gets in major hot water for a suspicious comment, and it's revealed that you aren't the detective which should protect you at night.
Win-Win
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 117
03-27-2009 05:19 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-27-2009 05:20 PM
Need to think about this.
If we think WE is Irish, then if I move to lynch him, my cover is blown as to how I nailed Ituralde. Additionally, names are revealed upon lynch, which means that there's no reason a PO'd IRA will off me for revenge (unless he's Godfather).
I think the better move would be for me and WE to play innocent with each other until later on. If he's truly a mafioso he will be lobbying for the IRA to leave me alive since he believes I'm wrapped around his little finger.
-edit- New quote of the game, courtesy of an ATPG PM:
"I've been convinced for a while you're a pro-town role, speaking on behalf of the detective. Ever since your Ituralde pick, which I wholeheartedly supported because he was acting as scummy as they came.
If you want me to back off Reenk, I will, without hesitation. You and Seamus are the only ones I am willing to listen to. I don't know if you're Donney or Davey or James or Joe or Jimmy or Jackie or Mairead herself, I don't care. My vote is your vote. Tell me where to move. I don't care if you're a basic townie; your instincts are too good.
Should I remove my vote from yoyoma?"
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 116
03-27-2009 03:41 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-27-2009 03:47 PM
How does white_eyes know that boudica and LG aren't irish mafia?
hmmm, maybe he'd make a good kill. Or better yet if the pm is damning you could post it.
Really, that's very suspicious. No townie could say that I was only looking at irish killers. I think townie GH would be suspicious of it. White_eyes has been a bit off this game too. Your call whether to pm him for a little longer to get info, but it should be posted in thread with an accusation.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 115
03-27-2009 03:07 PM ET (US)
White_eyes is getting suspicious of you, Sasaki:
WE: I feel that Sasaki is a Godfather.....Proof other then "Sasaki is always guilty?":shrug: He has been focusing on the Irish killers.....but hardly touched the English ones....I also think he has Reenk as a grunt.....tough guys to get lynched without a detective reveal:wall:
GH: Personally, I'm surprised that Sasaki hasn't been investigated yet... unless he's the one that's been forwarding the results to Lemur.
Need to go back and check the thread. One does not simply accuse Sasaki without a good case. Although, the question is, if I go back and check and don't like what I see, do I use any evidence or just do what I did with Ituralde? :laugh4:
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 114
03-27-2009 01:44 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-27-2009 01:55 PM
I think I'll kill pizza. I can see him being utterly convinced that reenk got rid of him and is getting away with it because "reenk is reenk".
LittleGrizz would probably be better. Abnoba might come under suspicion.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 113
03-27-2009 11:52 AM ET (US)
Hm, but we're not sure how much of that was Reenk or not.
Andres's usual style is one-line paragraphs with lots of ellipses.
I'm not sure of its relevance since it was his first game as mafia, but Andres tried to get a lot of the major players lynched in Mafia VI, namely you and Kommodus.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 112
03-27-2009 11:48 AM ET (US)
mmm how about the settlement? All of the brendan writeups seem to be a disguised style. Words deliberately put in lowercase etc. Eh, it's easy to overthink this sort of thing. Any kill is a good kill really. Tempted to go for LG though.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 111
03-27-2009 11:41 AM ET (US)
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If we ever get khaan to kill, I'll sic him on people on the Lemur list combined with troublesome town players that need removing but would look bad connected to us.
Will have to look more at Andres. He hasn't been mafia in a game I've been in for forever. Wish there was more of a baseline to base his current behavior off of.
-edit- I'm pretty sure Andres isn't Brendan. If he is, he's doing a damn good job at concealing his writing style.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 110
03-27-2009 11:31 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-27-2009 11:32 AM
I think ATPG is pretty set on reenk. And the writeups aren't in your style. Actually, I plagiarize a good portion of them from Jane Austen novels, lol. If atpg's "google fu" was a little stronger he might have noticed that ;)
I'd agree with a diana kill...but it just seems like both the families are drawing a blank on finding other mafia. Look at the list of kills--not a single high profile player has been killed. I'm tempted to strike at andres.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 109
03-27-2009 11:05 AM ET (US)
Also, I think we should kill Diana next night. She's doing just enough not to get Wogged, and nobody's really looking into her.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 108
03-27-2009 10:47 AM ET (US)
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Current events = win.
This easily looks to be the type of round that the mafia can just take off. However, if it comes down to the endgame, it'll probably come back to bite me.
-edit- See, the problem with this kind of writeup analysis is that it could theoretically lead to me, heh. If ATPG decides to go with the "Reenk is being framed" route there are those two Wanax writeups I did at the end of GF3 that are just waiting for him.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 107
03-27-2009 09:09 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-27-2009 09:14 AM
Heh...atpg went whole hog after reenk as the author of the Oswald write ups.
"As the town gathered again in the morning, the talk was not of the murders, but of the current rumour. "Donney's alive and 'ere ta 'elp, watch 'is space"."
Hmm, wonder what this is about.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 106
03-26-2009 11:23 PM ET (US)
Lemur PM:
"Night the Fifth, Grizzly innocent"
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 105
03-26-2009 08:18 AM ET (US)
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Rotten luck with the offline/online time.
Mairead...should be killed.
As for directing seamus, might arouse his suspicions.
I will kill greyblades.
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Ituralde 104
03-26-2009 03:35 AM ET (US)
Sorry about that guys. My offline/online pattern was just wrong for this game. Had the arguments come earlier I would have gone for the Mairead claim but now there's not enough time left. I hope we'll at least gain something from it. I wish you the best of luck.
I shouldn't have reacted so spooked on GHs claim but I was already too focused on the Mairead claim and thought I could afford to look afraid of lynching to explain my later claim.
Oh well, it's been a pleasure playing with you two...
GHPerson was signed in when posted 103
03-26-2009 01:19 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-26-2009 01:31 AM
Ugh, this just doesn't feel right. I hope this is worth it in the end.
-edit- How do you guys feel about me initiating direct contact with Seamus and trying to influence his investigations?
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 102
03-25-2009 04:48 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-25-2009 05:33 PM
The way seamus talks I would guarantee you he is the detective. So that's that settled.
Other thing though GH, you aren't getting any suspicion at all. The other family is going to think you are the detective...we can't take that risk. You should confess that lemur forwarded your results. Say you have to go and you don't want to risk ituralde not getting lynched.
Think we got some good distance between me and khaan today. Lousy distance between me and ituralde, but that had to be done.
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"I think those examples you gave were from the earlier part of the game, and I was talking about today's posts."
Contender for comment of the game...
but wait, a Challenger has arrived:
"In spite of all reasons to the contrary, I actually trust you.
I am going to regret this, I just know it."
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 101
03-25-2009 04:13 PM ET (US)
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I've been dancing around with what I say about Ituralde. I figure if Ituralde and I go down and are shown to be mafia, you and khaan will be SET.
btw, Ituralde, I believe the time has come for the mairead claim.
On second thought, I think khaan is going to end up in hot water of this...
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 100
03-25-2009 03:08 PM ET (US)
Good work Sasaki keeping the pressure on Grizz. Ituralde may just survive.
Also, khaan and I right now are having a chat about what kind of person would pick Ituralde as a grunt. It's quite funny.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 99
03-25-2009 12:11 PM ET (US)
hmm yes. Thing is, if seamus was the detective I don't see why he would make the effort to pretend not to be. Which could mean that the real detective is out there still.
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Ituralde 98
03-25-2009 11:57 AM ET (US)
My biggest problem will be that I might not be online until shortly before the lynch. I'll probably be asleep by the time the serious arguments could be levelled against me. I'll see how it goes and try to come back as often as possible.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 97
03-25-2009 11:53 AM ET (US)
Alternatively, if an Ituralde lynch fails to gain momentum, the real detective could be drawn out.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 96
03-25-2009 11:40 AM ET (US)
I'll be fine. In The Scourge of Ephesus I was able to survive for more than half the game after revealing as the doctor early on because I looked scummy enough to get the mafia to try to gamble and lynch me.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 95
03-25-2009 11:36 AM ET (US)
I'm worried about you becoming a target for the other mafia. If it looks like you could be the detective you could get killed.
It might be the best move to reveal that lemur has been forwarding results to you, but that you aren't sure of the legality or legitimacy of the results--because technically as a townie you couldn't be sure they were accurate. You could put it together in a nice "townie who believes in openness" package.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 94
03-25-2009 11:29 AM ET (US)
I'm going to look like a guy who knows something more than the rest of the general town, while at the same time not implication. I'm pretty sure I'll be able to toe the line enough to get out of this okay.
BTW, I'm PMing khaan now to see if he got anything from pever.
Ituralde 93
03-25-2009 10:26 AM ET (US)
Just trying to react in a manner I would if someone who hasn't said much so far in the game started a bandwagon on me without reasons. Let's see how this develops.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 92
03-25-2009 10:05 AM ET (US)
Lurking is probably the answer.
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 91
03-25-2009 09:58 AM ET (US)
I wouldn't try to distance if I were you guys. It has a big chance of backfiring.
I for one, have to defend ituralde and doubt GH. It will make me look scummy, but better that than it look like I knew that a detective had a guilty on him...and ituralde, you can't look like you know a detective has a guilty on you either. That could implicated GH.
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Ituralde 90
03-25-2009 09:42 AM ET (US)
What I wanted to suggest is what GH is doing now, I guess. If the town lynch me GHs bandwagons might be trusted. It could also make him suspicious.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 89
03-25-2009 08:13 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-25-2009 08:54 AM
Well, we don't want to pass one of us off as detective because then the other mafia will kill us.
You should pull out the mairead claim either right after a definite detective claim, or if it looks like you're sure to be lynched.
You should say you kept protecting seamus because of the succesful protection, but that you wanted to know who you were protecting...you haven't read the play plot.
You show up as guilty because you can only win if all the town dies and your character wants to be a terrorist. However all you have is protection ability, you can't kill.
Trying to pass yourself off as innocent won't work...
From the write ups, khaan seems to have joined us.
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3 IRA mafia--other guys
3 brits--us
2 other roles--khaan, padraic
3 protown--donney, davey, mairead
So, seamus is still the detective I take it...working by means of the cat or something? Pever implies that he reassigned the davey role to someone.
hmmph:
Andres
Askthepizzaguy
shlin28
LittleGrizzly
Reenk Roink
Lord Winter
Factionheir
yoyoma1910
Diana Abnoba
boudica
Sigurd
greyblades
List of potential enemy grunts...little grizzly is someone I would be tempted to pick. He's seemed a little scummy too. Will probably go after him in the thread if given a chance.
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Ituralde 88
03-25-2009 07:10 AM ET (US)
Another idea just came to me. Could we use this situation to pass one of the remaining ones of as detective? After all me being Mafia would prove that you are right if the town lynches me and we could then use the towns trust against them.
Ituralde 87
03-25-2009 04:58 AM ET (US)
Also what is an El Diablo lynch?
Ituralde 86
03-25-2009 04:57 AM ET (US)
Argh.. I was afraid something like this might happen. I was thinking about this when I wrote the kill that I might only be guilty if I murder. Ah well...
I'll try my best and reserve the Mairead claim for last. Any and all help is appreciated though. Outside the thread of course, don't intend to pull you down with me.
List of people I protected:
Night 0: Not yet able to protect
Night 1: Sasaki Kojiro - known player, protected him first last time I was doctor and it worked
Night 2: Seamus Fermanagh - also known player, irish name
Night 3: Seamus Fermanagh - obviously has a role, might be pro-town might not be, that's why I wanted him to reveal in the thread
Night 4: Mh... Seamus again or somebody else, can't decide yet... - either same reason as Night 3, or another shot in the dark
Pro-Town now since obviously my victory conditions are screwed with Padraic being dead. Guilty possibly a result of me shooting at Seamus. Or should I not acknowledge the detective as being real and present it as a Mafia plot to off me? Also the British might just kill me come the next Night phase. We'll see how long I last.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 85
03-24-2009 11:06 PM ET (US)
"Yes...you can only win with the town, but you are also the one protecting seamus. Just don't pull it out until either a detective claim is made or it looks like you will be lynched. Oh...and say you don't get result pm's from pever and have a list of who you protected and why. -edit- have the list but don't post it right away."
QFT. You got put in a very bad position but with luck this will set us up for the rest of the game.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 84
03-24-2009 10:58 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-24-2009 11:04 PM
Nasty. I don't believe what Ituralde did was suspicious and said so in thread, which I'll have to back up tomorrow, but can't defend him to harshly because then I'll look guilty...may have to lurk a bit.
Ituralde, you should use the mairead claim.
Hello [your name]. :bow:
You have been randomly selected as Mairead, Davey's younger sister.
Though only 16, you dream of joining the IRA and becoming a terrorist. Your hero is Padraic, who had to leave the IRA because he was too radical. Nevertheless, you worship Padraic and can't wait to see him.
Each night, you may choose to protect one person with your air rifle. After day 3 when he Padraic arrives, you will be informed who he is and may attempt to join with him. If he accepts you two will fall in love, and your fates will be tied together.
To win, you must be the only two left alive.
Good luck.
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pevergreen
Yes...you can only win with the town, but you are also the one protecting seamus. Just don't pull it out until either a detective claim is made or it looks like you will be lynched. Oh...and say you don't get result pm's from pever and have a list of who you protected and why. -edit- have the list but don't post it right away.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 83
03-24-2009 10:54 PM ET (US)
Oh yeah.
I've been having a conversation with White_eyes, leading him in a few directions. Basically, I have to drive for Ituralde hard. You guys can do what you wish. Although we might be able to set up an El Diablo lynch in a round or two.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 82
03-24-2009 10:50 PM ET (US)
This is why having both a doctor and a detective is annoying...
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 81
03-24-2009 09:53 PM ET (US)
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Dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit.
PM from Lemur:
"Night the Fourth, Ituralde guilty, scum, faction not known."
Follow-up from White_eyes:
"We have a guilty one......should one of us claim detective and get him lynch?"
Sorry Ituralde, not much I can do here. I think you're gonna have to go.
-edit- I'll bet you anything that Seamus is feeding Lemur information. Holy crap we really need to kill Mairead.
Ituralde 80
03-24-2009 10:08 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-24-2009 10:09 AM
I sent in the kill for YLC.
And I was only trying to read something to get back to sleep this morning. Ah well, nature of Mafia games, no matter what you do someone will build a case out of it.
p 79
03-24-2009 03:40 AM ET (US)
only thing I am allowed to comment on is you saying gaelic is davey.
He isnt.
Good. No rule infractions here.
Carry on gentlemen.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 78
03-23-2009 10:07 PM ET (US)
Okay, YLC's fine by me.
Ituralde 77
03-23-2009 09:59 PM ET (US)
I was thinking of YLC myself to be honest. Just a hunch though, no hard facts I could point to.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 76
03-23-2009 07:52 PM ET (US)
YLC might be good. I wonder if his claims that mairead is a serial killer and the way he keeps voting for seamus are him covering for his role. Will read further.
Greyblades...seems really innocent to me. Which is fine for kill, but we ought to pursue roles.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 75
03-23-2009 07:31 PM ET (US)
My personal preference is Greyblades. But there's no clear-cut choice this round.
Ituralde 74
03-23-2009 07:24 PM ET (US)
Sounds promising.
So am I still good for the kill? Any preference on who to kill? Get the one that's left from boudica or Ares?
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 73
03-23-2009 06:18 PM ET (US)
Oh no, I like it. I'd rather have a little suspicion on me with nothing to back it up then to get to late game and have people pull out the "but...he's just TOO innocent!!" card...that one's a killer.
A real detective would have either claimed, or stopped trying to telegraph it after round one. Khaan remembers how closely we pored over his posts in GF3, he'd be patient enough to wait until he got killed and it was revealed he had a rolename. Plus...with seamus as donney, I'm thinking he could derail any "khaan is detective" talk.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 72
03-23-2009 06:09 PM ET (US)
Haha, probably. Sasaki, do you have a preference as to if I say anything about that? I'm fine with just letting him go - town has a lot of other suspects.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 71
03-23-2009 06:06 PM ET (US)
Funny thing is, if he'd pretended in the thread to have a guilty on someone else other than me, we'd probably have killed him...
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 70
03-23-2009 05:56 PM ET (US)
I think I know the way to trigger khaan's ability - PM pever and let him know that we're allies. I'll try that this night round.
I'll feed him targets until the last round in which I'll take him out personally to be safe. This way we're safe letting both Ituralde and Sasaki killing until then.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 69
03-23-2009 05:48 PM ET (US)
hmm, bugs me a little that he gave 4 investigation results when we've had three nights, but it's possible he got one in before day one and it doesn't make sense as a mistake.
No need to tell him our names...though since he knows you he knows most everything. If he can find both godfathers and choose who to ally to, or if he just made the role up...well...cat's out of the bag.
If he's telling the truth and can get us an extra kill at night, then he's an awesome ally and we should treat him as such. That would make the final round have 11 alive instead of 8, if we all survive and get rid of the IRA--who should become our primary target I think. Seamus must be the pro-town detective in this case.
Having a protestant sympathizer but no catholic one would seem to unbalance the game a bit.
3 pro town--donney(seamus), davey(gaelic--sorry pever), maireed (would like to kill).
2 other--(padraic, khaan)
Now, perhaps donney can only find the brit grunts...
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 68
03-23-2009 05:31 PM ET (US)
Transcript (I apologize for the length):
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GeneralHankerchief: all right khaan, what's up?
seireikhaan: quite simple
seireikhaan: I have discovered you
seireikhaan: I assume you were PM'ing your lackey?
GeneralHankerchief: again, I'm just a standard townie
GeneralHankerchief: and even if I were, I would be using quicktopic :P
seireikhaan: again, I know that's pure falsehood
seireikhaan: see- I am the only person in this game who can find a godfather, and just one at that
GeneralHankerchief: role PM in 30 seconds or you're lying.
seireikhaan: alright
seireikhaan: sent
***PM***
GeneralHankerchief: you know... I claimed about the same role to CR in Spirit MafiaQuote:
Originally Posted by pevergreenHello 'khaan. :bow:
You have been randomly selected as the Protestant Sympathizer
In case you don't know, your responsibilities are as follows:
1. Win (Obviously, methods given later)
2. Find the British Godfather
3. Ally with him/her.
You will win if the mafia win (outnumber town) or if you are the last one standing.
You have the ability to investigate at night for the British Godfather. You must ally with the British. You will also be granted the ability to kill once per night, at a certain stage in the game. This stage is unknown to you.
Good luck.
:bow:
pevergreen
seireikhaan: i know
seireikhaan: not my fault
GeneralHankerchief: then you'll excuse me for being paranoid about you
seireikhaan: well, this is mafia :P
seireikhaan: paranoia is a big part, obviously
seireikhaan: but that's what I was given
GeneralHankerchief: it's a very simple thing to change a certain word or two of a PM, especially when one sent it in two minutes and not 30 seconds
seireikhaan: what can I say, I got big PM box(500)
seireikhaan: and I'm a slob
GeneralHankerchief: understood... but still.
seireikhaan: granted, I still got about 250 of it free :P
GeneralHankerchief: so, if I'm not mistaken, there's not much you can do for me until the certain point in the game comes
seireikhaan: I had no idea AM's got such giant boxes
seireikhaan: pretty much
GeneralHankerchief: okay
GeneralHankerchief: I surmise that, if you are lying, you're unable to kill me
seireikhaan: most likely, you won't be seeing anything new for a few days
GeneralHankerchief: because if that were true, you would have done so already and we wouldn't be having this conversation right now
seireikhaan: pretty much
seireikhaan: if I was anti-godfather and had the ability to kill you, I would have done it :P
GeneralHankerchief: right
GeneralHankerchief: however, you might be able to get my grunts
seireikhaan: ah, but that's the thing
seireikhaan: I can only investigate for the godfather
seireikhaan: I have no idea who your grunts are
GeneralHankerchief: but if I tell you them...
seireikhaan: you could simply give me fake names and see if they die
GeneralHankerchief: pointless now that you made the suggestion :P
seireikhaan: hehe
GeneralHankerchief: okay, here's how we'll do it:
seireikhaan: alright then
seireikhaan: woop, didn't notice the colon
GeneralHankerchief: I'm not going to give you access to our secret lair, or the names of my grunts
seireikhaan: ok
GeneralHankerchief: in return, I'll tell my grunts to stay away from you
seireikhaan: I suppose that could work
GeneralHankerchief: when the time comes in which you're useful, I'll send down the kill orders for the night
seireikhaan: ok
seireikhaan: I must say, it has been interesting re-reading the thread and seeing what you post
seireikhaan: you're mafioso skillz have improved
GeneralHankerchief: hehe, thanks
GeneralHankerchief: so I assume you investigated me last night?
seireikhaan: yes
GeneralHankerchief: who did you hit before that?
seireikhaan: first night
seireikhaan: shlin
seireikhaan: second night
seireikhaan: boudica
seireikhaan: then YLC
seireikhaan: and you
seireikhaan: I would like YLC to die, btw
GeneralHankerchief: can I see pever's feedback PM for somebody besides me and then me as well?
seireikhaan: he's making fun of my colorfs
GeneralHankerchief: khaan?
seireikhaan: hold on
seireikhaan: sent
seireikhaan: my roommate's bugging me, sorryQuote:
Originally Posted by pevergreenYou found Shlin28 alone in his room drunk. Clearly a pleb.
GeneralHankerchief: understood
GeneralHankerchief: so why does it say "Inishmore Night Two" when you said you investigated shlin the first night?
seireikhaan: because I made that up, of course
GeneralHankerchief: okay
GeneralHankerchief: PM for when you investigated me, please
GeneralHankerchief: so what do you tell pever now that you've found me?Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreenYou creeped around GeneralHankerchief's house, and found many official-looking papers. You also find a Union Jack posted to the wall. Clearly, he isn't a normal townsperson.
seireikhaan: not sure
seireikhaan: never said
seireikhaan: I PM's him this afternoon, haven't gotten anything back
GeneralHankerchief: okay, please let me know whenever he does
seireikhaan: alright
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To surmise I think we should let him do his thing for us when the time comes for maybe a round or two, and then kill him just to be sure.
I also think that because of this, we should save Ituralde for when the time comes to kill khaan. Maybe let Oswald kill everybody up until then (although Ituralde can still write the kills if he wishes).
What do you guys think of this?
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 67
03-23-2009 05:12 PM ET (US)
Interesting...
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 66
03-23-2009 04:53 PM ET (US)
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New exchange:
khaan: "Dear dear, you don't think I'd be silly enough to do that again, now do you? I ain't dumb. I'll ask you once more, dear GodPappy, do the Brits require my help?"
GH: "I'm just a regular townie, sorry."
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If he tells me to stop playing dumb and that Sasaki and Ituralde are my henchmen, I'll let him in. Otherwise, he's rolefishing.
-edit- we're talking on Steam. I'll post the transcript once we're done.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 65
03-23-2009 04:13 PM ET (US)
PM from khaan:
"Tell me, do you feel you need any help, Pappy?"
My response:
"khaan, you know that this kind of thing got you in trouble in GF3."
I'll keep you guys updated.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 64
03-23-2009 01:28 PM ET (US)
I think the IRA might have taken care of our Lemur problem for us by offing CA. He was another one that had a high probability.
Anyway, this whole thing significantly decreases khaan's chances of being Detective and thus having anything solid on Sasaki.
FWIW, Greyblades was my third choice as grunt behind you two guys. Maybe somebody else was thinking along the same lines.
Ituralde 63
03-23-2009 11:32 AM ET (US)
I'm gonna do the next writeup then. Any ideas on who to kill?
YLC piling on Seamus seems a little strange.
Thanks for the heads up. I try to play like I were town. But then I don't even remember what it's like anymore so I pretty much fumble in the dark. Try my best not to mess everything up though. :D
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 62
03-23-2009 10:10 AM ET (US)
Nah, whoever ends up writing the kill can send it in.
Don't worry about pizza's vote, I'd peg your in thread behavior as innocent seeming.
It's seems likely that seamus is the detective. Unless mairead is counted as "other" instead of protown.
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Ituralde 61
03-23-2009 06:03 AM ET (US)
I have no clue whether I could disguise my writing, or whether someone will recognize my writing or not, to be honest. I just thought it might be something more for the town to talk about if we throw another name in there.
Maybe you just forward me the writeup and I pass it along to pever with my name?
GHPerson was signed in when posted 60
03-22-2009 09:59 PM ET (US)
Lemur still. He confirmed it was for this game though.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 59
03-22-2009 09:51 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-22-2009 09:52 PM
The pm was from pevergreen?
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Polemists and gaelic cowboy are wog today. And psychonaut committing suicide I believe. Good for us.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 58
03-22-2009 09:26 PM ET (US)
New PM:
Pevergreen, Night the Third, El D innocent
GHPerson was signed in when posted 57
03-22-2009 03:11 PM ET (US)
Well, White_eyes is at least somewhat in the know.
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchiefYeah, Lemur, right? I wasn't even sure if it was for this game or not. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:Ddid you get a PM, forwarded to you??? I got one and it said you and I are innocent......:inquisitive: it was forwarded by someone a modreatere....:book:
I guess going for Alexander is okay this time, since it'll be very difficult to trace him back to us. The only one that might say anything is White_eyes himself (and possibly Alexander, if he's our man).
I still say leave him alive for a round to see what Lemur does, but worse comes to worst it'll just narrow down our suspect list. :shrug:
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 56
03-22-2009 03:01 PM ET (US)
I bet pever gave them names. We just had to make ours up because we aren't in the play.
As for the kill, I already sent one in for tonight. Respect to GH and all, but I think we should go after potential detectives as hard as we can.
Don't think it would damage our standing to have another name in there. It's not like we can pretend that so-and-so who got lynched was oswald and that's why he isn't sending kills anymore.
Do you think you might get ID'd based on writing? I think I disguised mine decently. If you want the next kill it's yours.
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Ituralde 55
03-22-2009 02:24 PM ET (US)
Interesting developments.
Two things I wanted to ask:
1) Should we keep sending in the kills via Sasaki? Would it benefit us if another name was thrown into the ring or damage our standing?
2) Do you think pever named the IRA thugs or were they given the same choice we had? If the second is the case, the IRA thug could be someone who knows the play, why else would he have chosen Brendan has his name?
GHPerson was signed in when posted 54
03-21-2009 11:05 PM ET (US)
We'll give him one night. I want to see if Lemur follows up.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 53
03-21-2009 11:01 PM ET (US)
hmm I think we should off him. He has an equal chance of working against us as he has of working for us. Besides maybe it isn't him. We should be working to narrow the suspect list.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 52
03-21-2009 10:57 PM ET (US)
Good call. Both Backroom frequents, both very old-timers that played together but haven't done much recently.
If I'm in the loop we should definitely leave him alive for a while at least. Let him do our work for us.
Another blow to to the pro-town network idea, muahahaha.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 51
03-21-2009 10:49 PM ET (US)
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That's hilarious...would have to be this one cause settlement has more than 2 nights.
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First instinct: Alexander the pretty good
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 50
03-21-2009 10:46 PM ET (US)
I just got this PM from Lemur of all people with the heading "Anonymous Tip":
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Night the First, GH innocent
Night the Second, WE innocent
More will follow
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The problem is I don't know what game it's for, lol. If it's this one that helps us out a lot.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 49
03-21-2009 10:29 PM ET (US)
The problem with that plan is one, there's always the possibility that it ends up looking staged and two, with how obvious khaan is being, if he's the detective people will say that it was known that I was a goner...that would end up making you look more suspicious than anything.
Unfortunately pever says both families attempting a kill won't break through doctor protection.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 48
03-21-2009 09:04 PM ET (US)
I have another idea.
If you survive a few rounds without having to reveal, I'm going to post a big long case against you. I've already started to collect a few posts of yours that I would find suspicious under normal circumstances so it won't look too forced.
You can fight back for a bit, and then if the rest of the town is following my lead you can do your fakeclaim as whatever role we want out of the way (probably Mairead). That role will counterclaim and then we'll be able to blast 'em out of the way.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 47
03-21-2009 06:40 PM ET (US)
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Ahahaha, I love khaan...hmm I guess I'll need a new fakeclaim. Maybe I can tweak the mairead one.
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Yeah, if khaan posts as detective saying he has a guilty on me, I'll post the mairead claim. Maybe flush the real mairead out, get rid of pesky doctor type. Not worried about my survival.
For tonight, don't think we can risk taking a shot at seamus. The other mafia probably won't try for him again. I'll ask pever about the double kill thing anyway, so if things go awry and I get lynched I can suggest in the thread where the other mafia see.
Andres might be a good kill for tonight. I want to reread him though.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 46
03-21-2009 04:16 PM ET (US)
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Well, if he did, nothing we can do about it now. To paraphrase the Simpsons, if taka does have a role and goes on a killing spree, taking out everyone in the town and destroying our chances, I owe you a coke.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 45
03-21-2009 04:14 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-21-2009 04:21 PM
^^I'm confused...taka appeared to have a role in appeasing padraic who is already dead. But like I said, I don't think they're going to go for a seamus lynch.[/edit]
I think taka did have a role...pever added something to my kill:
"The cat just decided to go walking."
Now...I think in the play donney or davie tries to cover a cat in shoe polish to make it look like wee thomas. So this might have something to do with it.
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Andres might be acting a little odd, I'll have to take a look at his posts again.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 44
03-21-2009 04:05 PM ET (US)
Yes, but will the town have its act together enough to figure it out? Right now they're focused on whether taka, an unnamed player, had a role or not.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 43
03-21-2009 04:01 PM ET (US)
Well...he has an irish name and was targetted by the Irish mafia. That pretty much clears him of being mafia. The only way he could be guilty would be as a neutral type role and I don't buy that. Can't imagine him getting lynched.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 42
03-21-2009 03:59 PM ET (US)
Alternatively we could just leave Seamus hanging and count on the town to lynch him/get him to provide specifics. Seamus is an excellent player but not the best on the defense in the world, IIRC.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 41
03-21-2009 03:47 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-21-2009 04:05 PM
Arg, mairead appears to be a doctor. I guess that bit in my fake pm about protecting people with her air rifle was the truth.
Now a question for PEVER: if both families target seamus will he die despite maireads protection?
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from a wikipedia link. James, Christy, Joey--only two of those can be the IRA. I'll check and see which to and then make a fake claim for the third.
edit:nevermind, Further reading indicates they are all northern irish even though only three are apparently in the game.
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 40
03-21-2009 02:32 PM ET (US)
"If Taka was telling the truth to me yesterday, then I believe we are all royally boned.
He wanted me to help him find someone called Davey I believe (deleted all my PMs) and said that if he could not find Davey, and he died, some kind of massive serial killer would run loose."
hmm, and pever added a last bit to my kill "The cat just decided to go walking." so this was apparently true.
The FC quote is "I wanted seamus to die" which seems a lot less incriminating to me. My fake claim is getting more and more useless though, lol.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 39
03-21-2009 10:35 AM ET (US)
Hm, looks like Mairead was trying to recruit Seamus. Seamus has a named role, which says something in itself.
-edit- "FC is the Bees Knees" might be our Mairead - he said "I just wanted Seamus to die" in the thread.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 38
03-20-2009 03:43 PM ET (US)
Certainly we want to go after mafia in thread.
I'm actually half hoping khaan has a guilty on me. Of course killing him is the last thing we want to do--if he's the detective I get lynched anyway and we lose someone who can find the enemy mafioso, and if he's plain townie I'd get lynched because he acted that way to see if I'd kill him. Of course there's always the chance the other mafia noticed and off him...bah. An early exit for me means I don't have to dance around any cases that get made on you two.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 37
03-20-2009 03:02 PM ET (US)
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We can get him next round. I think if we lose taka now he'll slip away.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 36
03-20-2009 01:45 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-20-2009 02:49 PM
A tie is fine with me...I agree with offing taka. I can write up a kill.
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kill sent
I'm not sure seamus is his usual self. He'd be a reasonable choice for mafioso, especially the irish side given his name...would be tempting as the ira godfather.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 35
03-20-2009 12:00 PM ET (US)
Have a good one Ituralde!
Okay, next night kill choices. I have a hunch that suspicion is going to naturally flow away from Reenk and taka next round. If we do think that taka has a role it might be smart to off him now.
Ituralde 34
03-20-2009 05:40 AM ET (US)
A tie and no one dies. That's not good.
See you on Monday! :)
GHPerson was signed in when posted 33
03-19-2009 11:37 PM ET (US)
khaan's behavior reminds me a bit of when he was Detective in GF3.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 32
03-19-2009 07:18 PM ET (US)
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We're fine, we'd naturally clash a little. As long as it doesn't look like distancing it's cool...the thing that looks suspicious when people read back over the thread is:
a) ignoring each other
b) making weak votes or fos's and then backing off or never mentioning it again
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Appears reenk is going to bite it this round. Pity, I wanted it to be taka on account of those "davey" comments...hmm. Still think he's a good kill.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 31
03-19-2009 06:51 PM ET (US)
Sorry for debating you in the thread, BTW. I figure that evading detection is more important.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 30
03-19-2009 02:30 PM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-19-2009 05:45 PM
hmm, interesting. Tweaked the Mairead role claim in light of new facts.
That takes care of the 2 "other" roles.
I think "doctor" would be the best role claim, simply since we don't want to flush out the detective only to have him be protected...
"i wonder what will happen to davey? that padraic doesnt seem very nice..."--taka
hmm
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 29
03-19-2009 01:38 PM ET (US)
AVSM's supposed role PM:
Hello AVSM.
You have been randomly selected as Padraic, son of Donney. For more character information, check out the story that is going to be put up soon, as a prelude to the game starting.
As for in game functions, you are the Serial Killer. Starting from Night 3, you may kill one person per night. You must write up the kill and send it to me. You will be named in this kill as Padraic, your character. Your name will also be revealed if you are killed or lynched.
To win, simply be the last one left alive, or one of two with Mairead. You receive no bonus for finding out who Mairead is, its just someone you know to be innocent and one you do not have to kill.
If you have any questions on strategies or how to play, feel free to ask.
Good luck.
pevergreen
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Not sure if it's allowed or not, so if you want me to take it out pever, just say the word.
Ituralde 28
03-19-2009 01:12 PM ET (US)
Nice shot killing Padraic round one.
This might get good. I will be a little bit inactive over the weekend, so if you could just send the killings in Sasaki. I'm fine with whomever right now. I am not yet used to the whole Mafia thing again, but slowly getting to it.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 27
03-19-2009 12:55 PM ET (US)
I just wanted that part from the introduction...since my pm says "you have been chosen by GH" which obviously my claimed role's pm wouldn't.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 26
03-19-2009 12:44 PM ET (US)
Frankly I'm not sure my GF PM can be of much use, as it's pretty tailored to me personally.
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 25Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreenHello GH :bow:
You have been randomly selected as the British "Godfather".
You will function the same as the Godfather from your game, and the previous Godfather games. Please PM me with: an English name for yourself four people, listed in order, that you would like to be your henchmen. You will only have two, but the combination of the IRA also choosing and other things may prevent you from getting your choices. I guess I didn't think it through too well. :laugh4:
28 people to choose from, I hope you don't pick the same as the IRA. :grin2:
You win by eliminating the IRA and outnumbering the townspeople that are left, just as normal mafia games are done.
Good luck.
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pevergreen
03-19-2009 05:01 AM ET (US)
Edited by author 03-21-2009 06:55 PM
I'm working on a fake claim of "Mairead" who would have united with padraic when he arrived. One version will have us being anti-english and anti-IRA (for use if about to be lynched), another can have "anti-everyone" for use if a detective comes up with a guilty result...it can be claimed that since padraic is dead Mairead is not a threat. Maybe give her doctor power over padraic.
I'd like to see your role pm gh so I can get some of the wording worked out better.
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Hello [your name]. :bow:
You have been randomly selected as Mairead, Davey's younger sister.
Though only 16, you dream of joining the IRA and becoming a terrorist. Your hero is Padraic, who had to leave the IRA because he was too radical. Nevertheless, you worship Padraic and can't wait to see him.
Each night, you may choose to protect one person with your air rifle. After day 3 when he Padraic arrives, you will be informed who he is and may attempt to join with him. If he accepts you two will fall in love, and your fates will be tied together.
To win, you must be the only two left alive.
Good luck.
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Ok...here's a claim for use if a detective claims to have a guilty on you. It's nice because it explains the guilty yet you are powerless now that padraic is dead. Of course it can still get counterclaimed...but whatever.
For the pro-town version (for use in absence of a guilty result), just delete the part about "outnumbering the town". I don't think it can be made into a detective type role although that would be useful.
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 24
03-19-2009 04:46 AM ET (US)
Ah, looks like we nailed "padraic". Sorry AVSM to kill you right off in your first game, but it looked from your edit like you had a role and I guess you did.
Heh, the other mafia killed Jolt who was one of our top picks. The must have someone reasonably good on their team.
"Padraic has left the IRA as it's not militant enough for him and when we meet him first, he's quite cheerily torturing a pot dealer who sells to school kids. The scene is both horrifying and funny as Padraic prepares to slice off the dealer's nipple (of his choice) after already having taken off two of his toenails. This jollity is interrupted by a phone call from Padraic's father Donny, who has been caring for his son's beloved cat Wee Thomas. Wee Thomas, we know, has been killed in an unfortunate accident and panic is spreading through the village as everyone knows what Padraic is capable of when he is seeking justice and revenge. Sure enough, Padraic returns home in haste and is met at the ferry dock by young Mairead, who fancies herself a rebel-in-training and idolizes Padraic, and the two of them fall instantly into passionate love. As Padraic tries to find out what has happened to Wee Thomas (and is preparing to execute his father and Mairead's layabout hippie brother Davey on suspicions of a cover-up), the tables are turned when he himself is taken by the splinter group he has splintered off from. His crime? He is too radical and too violent even for this ultra-radical and ultra-violent terrorist branch of the IRA! So he is marched out to be shot, but his love Mairead comes to the rescue (we've already learned she's blinded a herd of cows with her air rifle, so it's not too much of a spoiler to find out that she can do the same with wanna-be executioners). There follows from here a climactic scene of unending gore as Padraic and Mairead take out the now-blinded trio of assassins and then force Donny and Davey into cutting up their bodies for disposal."
I guess it's good we offed padraic?
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 23
03-19-2009 04:41 AM ET (US)
Well, I think the town hates both of us equally though.
Any claim will have to be "mairead" or "davey" characters from the play...we don't know what they are of course. The problem with claiming detective is, if we're believed we're dead anyway. Unless there is a doctor to protect us from the other mafia. This also lends a lot of credibility to any actual detectives claiming.
I actually haven't written a pm yet since I don't see a big advantage in claiming one. It's probably suicide and the actual role might realize that and not counterclaim...
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 22
03-19-2009 12:55 AM ET (US)
I've been doing some thinking. Even though there are technically two mafia factions, we're the only "true" one. The IRA and the pro-townies are both pro-town, even though the town needs to get rid of both of us. Seems like being an IRA agent is being a thankless job.
Anyway, I'm thinking a roleclaim as an IRA agent may be a bit more believable than your standard Detective or something. Sure, it's part of the town's victory condition to lynch IRA people, but if need be we could convince them to hold off for a while and even cooperate with the pro-town roles.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 21
03-18-2009 05:14 AM ET (US)
Ok, I sent in a kill for AVSM.
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Ituralde 20
03-18-2009 01:45 AM ET (US)
I'm fine with killing "A very super market"
GHPerson was signed in when posted 19
03-17-2009 10:03 PM ET (US)
IIRC we only get one kill per night. I'd rather not kill a newbie in the first round, but if we think he's got a pro-town role then I'm willing to make an exception.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 18
03-17-2009 08:47 PM ET (US)
"A very super market" might be a good choice for a kill as well. Post #120 in the main thread was originally asking pever when the pro-town role pm's were going to be sent out, however he edited it to "never mind" a few minutes later.
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 17
03-17-2009 03:11 PM ET (US)
I sent in "Oswald" don't think I need a last name.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 16
03-17-2009 09:43 AM ET (US)
I'm fine with lynching whoever. If you try to force a lynch too much then your case comes off being manufactured-looking.
And taka sounds good as a first-round kill, he usually sticks around to the endgame anyways.
Ituralde 15
03-17-2009 03:35 AM ET (US)
Back again. I think ATPG deserves the lynch, mainly for WIFOM I guess. If he lives now it will dominate all future discussions. Probably will either way. Might even be good for us if he isn't in fact the IRA godfather.
Ituralde 14
03-17-2009 03:16 AM ET (US)
So I'm the newbie in the popular experienced & newbie couple to be Mafioso. This is my first game for a long time so for the moment I'm content to just stick along.
My role PM is the same as Sasakis. I have to catch up with the thread now, get back to you once I'm finished.
Did you PM your name to pever yet, Sasaki? I'm about but thought it best to check back with you guys. I'm going for Mike Fingers right now but am up for anything that has a cooler reason than the first thing that came to my mind! :)
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03-17-2009 02:21 AM ET (US)
sorry to come in again, but thought it was only fair to even the mafia teams up, so both have knowledge of what this game is based off:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lie...t_of_Inishmore
most of the synopsis was written by me, and it is unfinished.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 12
03-17-2009 01:24 AM ET (US)
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I think taka would be a good kill, just because it's unexpected. Don't want to have a pattern in our kills.
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pevergreen 11
03-17-2009 12:52 AM ET (US)
Good luck you lot.
As for roles, all of them were decided randomly (beside GF choices of you guys) first by getting 6 unique numbers from the player list, then a die roll to choose which one got the roll out of those 6. Both provided by random.org.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 10
03-17-2009 12:51 AM ET (US)
seems we start in day...nice.
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SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 9
03-17-2009 12:46 AM ET (US)
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Well...pever doesn't seem to like him much, so I doubt he has a role.
Myself...the more I think about it I'm about 90% sure I'll be investigated within the first couple rounds if not the first round. So I probably won't use the detective claim...I'll probably claim to be masons with two other people, one of whom appears guilty to investigation like me and has vigilante power while the other appears innocent...lol
We should also consider who is a likely choice for the IRA grunts. But actually, I'm not sure we want to kill them at night...arrg.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 8
03-17-2009 12:29 AM ET (US)
This is the first time I've been mafia in a long time. I'll give pever the benefit of the doubt.
What do you guys think about ATPG just to screw with everybody?
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 7
03-17-2009 12:21 AM ET (US)
LittleGrizzly and Jolt generally don't come under much suspicion it seems to me. On the other hand, with you getting "randomly" picked as godfather I'd wonder if it's really all that random. Have to think about it.
hmmm I'm glad I'm not the godfather. Don't really see myself surviving this one, I keep getting killed night plus there's always the round one investigation...
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 6
03-17-2009 12:14 AM ET (US)
Hm, investigator would have been nice. Oh well.
Any ideas for the first kills?
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 5
03-17-2009 12:08 AM ET (US)
You have been chosen as the British "grunts" by your Godfather GeneralHankerchief.
As a duo, you get single kill per night phase. It is up to one of you to write that kill up and send it to me. It may only feature one person in it, they will also be named. To that end, you must both PM me with suitable English names for use in game. GH has chosen Robert Frank, however, you do not need a surname.
If one of you dies, the other shall continue with one kill per night. If GeneralHankerchief dies, you both will try to escape Inishmore, resulting in your death. Keep him alive at all costs.
To win, defeat the IRA and outnumber the town.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 4
03-17-2009 12:04 AM ET (US)
BTW, do you guys have any powers beyond the ability to kill? My abilities/limitations are the same as the Godfathers from Silver's series.
GHPerson was signed in when posted 3
03-16-2009 11:59 PM ET (US)
Good call. Seeing as you're the one person who can absorb all the various pro-town efforts normally aimed at me.
SasakiPerson was signed in when posted 2
03-16-2009 11:57 PM ET (US)
:D
I'll get working on my fake detective claim.
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GHPerson was signed in when posted 1
03-16-2009 08:09 PM ET (US)
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Khaan is your final lynch...congrats to the town, you guys were never really our enemies in this as much as the other family.