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1. I'm simply asking you, when you said the Manasi wagon was a counterwagon, did you mean that it was a counterwagon to my wagon or to Pizza's wagon? Either alternative seems like a reasonable interpretation of what you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
2. You think scum GH revived Pizza? And I said "given what we know now"
3. LOL. Feeling pressured? I'm just catching up on the thread.
Logic does not push for a thunderdome, if I understand him correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logic
Call me grasping at straws, but this rings hollow.Quote:
Originally Posted by novice
atpg needs a world religion founded in his name, though I'm slightly disappointed that he didn't rewrite the lyrics to Mama Said Knock You Out by way of celebration (lifetime's supply of cookies if you get the reference, pizza).
GH is lock town. Ability makes no sense for scum. As per my miller bit, Zack's bastard days are long since passed.
On Cuth, the debunking of the case on novice would be impressive from town, but truly exceptional from scum. With respect, I don't believe he's reached the level of skill and audacity where he would dare going toe-to-toe with pizza in such a manner unless he actually believed what he was saying. Which, somewhat perversely, means he's lock town if novice flips scum.
Everyone else remains in the suspect pool pending ISOs and flips.
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Originally Posted by Logic
This is a weird progression. You go from a nullish read to "a tad on the scummy side" which becomes "very suspicious" by the end of the post. Not to mention that the "tad on the scummy side" tell objectively isn't scummy. (But that is in Logic's derp range.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Logic
The first is IMO very unlikely. XCOM has no way to revive people, whereas the aliens have multiple units that can bring people back as zombies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
The second half of this is the scummiest and most ineffective method I have ever seen of discrediting someone. In fact, I think it's so bad that Vote: Montmorency because this cannot stand.
What I'm getting at is, if a scum-team power, it would be available to temporarily revive any lynch (or night kill?). This means if scum had lynched at some point, they could have revived them just to muddy the waters. This isn't a power that need only apply to town, and I think we even touched on it a number of games ago. In Futuramafia, vanilla townies had carte blanche to post and participate, but lynched scum and town PRs did not. Zack having a setup where no dead can speak but there is a power which permits dead-speak is an adjacent step. :shrug:Quote:
GH is lock town. Ability makes no sense for scum. As per my miller bit, Zack's bastard days are long since passed.
The temptation to resolve Pizza ASAP is a strong one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logic
OK, but again, thematically, I would be completely shocked if XCOM has access to any kind of bringing someone back to life. They can stabilise dying friends, but no outright revival and no turning. Well, unless you count the player getting pissed off that their soldier died and reloading to save them, but that's too meta.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
It's a strong case as I've admitted, but I want to look out for an alternative explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
While on the subject of meta, we have flipped a sectoid, a muton, and a faceless. What else can we expect?
*** EVENT ***
GeneralHankerchief has been killed.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
And with GeneralHankerchief's death, Askthepizzaguy collapses to the floor where he stands, rejoining the the dead.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
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It is still Day Three.
Voting ends in:
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Living Players: 13
@autolycus
@BSmith
@Csargo
@Cuthillius
@Dp101
@El Barto
@Fredwood
@Logic
@Manasi
@Montmorency
@novice
@Sooh
@Winston Hughes
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Dead Players: 4
Jowy - Faceless
crimson_snow - Muton
Askthepizzaguy - Sectoid
GeneralHankerchief - Sectoid
So, Dayvig? Probably the Ranger. Also good to know that my hypothesis was correct, although it sucks losing a revived Pizza.
Crud.
You think that was a town vig?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
If I recall, Sectoids have psionic powers or something - is that what GH did in flavor terms, puppeting Pizza's corpse?
...ranger is an XCOM class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Yeah, Sectoids are one of the aliens that can revive corpses, but I assumed that GH wouldn't flip as one because Pizza said he was vanilla, and so I thought that the reviving role would be a more psionically powerful alien.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
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Originally Posted by Logic
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Originally Posted by Logic
Follows Pizza, says he will stop doing that and reassess, finds GH very suspicious, is happy with his vote on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logic
Essentially, no way in hell that town makes that shot, ever. Or at least, town that's paying attention.
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Wow.
What hypothesis?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
Hypothesis that GH was some kind of reviving alien.Quote:
Originally Posted by novice
Well, that much was obvious. Not much of a silver lining to have that confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
I'm trying to be positive.Quote:
Originally Posted by novice
Pocket accepted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
Not that I object, but I thought Pizza was your strongest town read? Or was it just vice versa?Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
Never mind, asked and answered.
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Originally Posted by Csargo
It really could be, though. Scum aren't always pulling the strings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
Reading this makes me want to lynch Pizza again. This was an honest case by Cuth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuthillius
IGR?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredwood
What was the thing you wanted to pursue in the next phase?
I'll have to continue tomorrow.
Vote: Logic, see post 1547 for reasons.
First things first. vote: Manasi
Now I'm off to read the thread.