why would we? it’s only D3 and we just lunched two wolves lol
Culture clash inc
In my opinion we should mass claim because we have the advantage, if the wolves are in a box now a mass claim would be the key. We're spending a lot of useful time talking about Gemma, wolves already knows if she's a town pr or a wolf, so us talking around that is only bad for town.
And if she, Murska and Jan are the pr's that's that and a new wolf can't fake claim later to survive.
From what I see all pr's are weak anyway so making one or two ic instead would strengthen the game state in our favor.
02-19-2024, 09:11
Wisdom
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hally
i feel like wisdom is living on another planet with their reads but they are still prob a villager anyway :curtain:
Why are you like this
02-19-2024, 09:11
ladd
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Oh you are right
Well now wisdom can hammer :curtain:
02-19-2024, 09:12
Hally
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
lol you guys made me stay up waiting for the flip :stare:
ok gn fr
02-19-2024, 09:12
ladd
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hally
lol you guys made me stay up waiting for the flip :stare:
ok gn fr
Damn you are do villagery
Eheh
(Plz hammer wisdom, gemma claimed pr)
02-19-2024, 09:13
Wisdom
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
I just want to point out my eod was more villagery than yours by a long shot wisdom
And I don't think gh/logic is v/v
Well yes because you were there, but I couldn’t see anything that looked town indicative based on what I think is town indicative.
I don't really care about trying to push you now, at this point the game feels solveable so I'll probably not vote anyone until I've solved it.
02-19-2024, 09:14
Gemma
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hally
lol you guys made me stay up waiting for the flip :stare:
ok gn fr
and id do it again
sleep well
02-19-2024, 09:14
Wisdom
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
Damn you are do villagery
Eheh
(Plz hammer wisdom, gemma claimed pr)
?
Lemme finish catching up
02-19-2024, 09:16
ladd
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wisdom
?
Lemme finish catching up
Gh is at-1, we are hoping to lunch him beforr the 24 hours mark so we make this game quicker since he is always dying today
Gemma hardclaimed he is a pr a few posts back
Nothing else of interest happened
02-19-2024, 09:19
ladd
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
I made a huge post detailing my issues with Logic/GH with specific details that were left open to be addressed and both completely ignored it and seem to be actively avoiding interacting with me about the game afaict
Logic has put such little effort into talking about his supposed wolfread on me that it's almost like he's doing a bit with it or something, except he isn't Winston. You think I should read you perfectly but apparently can't be assed to try and help me in that regard whatsoever. But you don't care about explaining or pushing your suspicion about me either, when the vast majority of the game think I am town.
Your Honor, I enter into evidence a game where Logic was a villager:
Completely different person. Just read like 3 random Logic posts on that page, it's so different. GH thinks logic is lock town in this game based on meta????
In a more general sense a villa GH having zero interest in talking about the game with me is just, odd?
If these two are both villagers I dont know what the fuck is going on lol
This gui died n1
I rest my case
02-19-2024, 09:23
Gemma
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
that's a beautiful ace attorney moment
02-19-2024, 09:24
Wisdom
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
This gui died n1
I rest my case
Fine, probably better to just follow the crowd at this point.
If he's town I blame ladd!
Saint Fogle was always destined for greatness, despite being born on a pirate ship. He and his twin brother grew up with the smells of lye, guts, and gun powder. One stormy night, while on a desperate run from two navy vessels, their ship hit rock bottom and the enemy drew close, ready to blow them all up and hang all who got captured. Saint Fogle alone kept his wits about him and not only bought them enough time for the tide to come in, he then deftly navigated the shallows and escaped the enemy. The crew wished to make him their new captain, but he passed the hat to his brother and became first mate instead. After gathering uncountable wealth they went ashore to spend it, only to find the harbour besieged by a giant. Once again Saint Fogle saved the day by distracting the giant while his brother hurried back to the ship and fire its cannons at it. The grateful crowd carried them on their shoulders to the palace, and chanted for their childless monarch to adopt the brothers and name Saint Fogle as heir. Immer humble, Saint Fogle stepped aside once more and served as a loyal minister to his brother-king, even following him in death.
GH was a Town Saint (VT)
Shortened night if I get all night actions within the next three hours.
Saint Baccano was an unrelenting murderer. It had taken two squadrons to capture him and put him in jail, and the decision to free him was met with much disbelief and scorn. However, the empress was desperate to save her people from the seemingly unstoppable hordes of darkness, and all the auguries and oracles told her the same: some evils can only be vanquished by a greater evil. The lesser forces fell easily enough to his knife, but finally Saint Baccano had to face off against that which couldn't be killed, an enemy of pure shadow who couldn't bleed. Knowing this would end his own life as well, Saint Baccano doused himself in greek fire and simply walked up to this "invincible" enemy. They looked eachother in the face, one tall, and handsome, and just a little bit fat, the other a determined assassin with a lighter in his hand. He fired himself up, threw his arms around the other in a tight hug, and did not let go until both were consumed by the flames.
As per his passive, Ladd will die at the end of the day. His vote counts.
02-19-2024, 15:09
ladd
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
ded
i'll have time to read tomorrow (irl) and maybe i'll stop being lazy :curtain:
02-19-2024, 15:21
ladd
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
i also have 15 mins now so gonna try to do a bit of digging
Quote:
Originally Posted by Logic
Now that I'm caught up, I can give my full, current accounting of my reads.
Towns (unsorted, and of varying confidence levels)
GH
Dya Gemma (now fully disentangled from Ender)
Town-leans
Jan
Ladd
Wisdom
Scum-leans
Murska Ender
Zack
Vanta
Anyone not mentioned is either a null or I forgot you were playing.
so you have gemma as v and ender as w, artic asks you why you have gemma as a villaread and you answer this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Logic
I'm vibing with gemma, seems nice.
but so far gemma's only strong read was ender being a villager...which you disagreed with
so what could you possibly be vibing with?
02-19-2024, 15:28
ladd
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
dya had some pretty rough reads d1 (not wanting to lunch syn, villa reading visor) that give me PAUSE but i think they are not with logic and overall their posting has been fairly villagery. tbh i'd say they are like borderline out of their range with some posts?
i am ngl i have barely read vanta posts (sorry). guess i should give them a look at some point
hally/artic/wisdom are in the sameish boat where i think their posting is prob just too villagery to come from a wolf despite not having anything clearing wrt interations or pushes on a wolf afaict (i havent read back yet so maybe i missed something here)
murska/benneh/rask are just not wolves
ender i gotta re read. gemma should probably hardclaim their role and results
adieu
02-19-2024, 16:21
Wisdom
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Oh no I thought we'd still have 24 hours.
I'm not really gonna be here for this day but I'll do my best.
It was weird hammering and feeling correct when gh flipped v.
02-19-2024, 16:50
ladd
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
damn just saw there was the awards reveal on MU lol
congrats @nebjiamn (and prob some others, i just skimmed)
welcome to the club of good players :curtain:
02-19-2024, 17:17
nebjiamn
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
i didn't realize we were getting a 4 hour night, that's neat
initial thoughts are, uh, we have a lot of PRs. i know they're relatively low powered from what we've seen so far but just from a claim standpoint seems like it coul dbe v rough (and thus kindof unbelievable) for wolves to have to deal with 4 PRs?
02-19-2024, 17:19
nebjiamn
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Quote:
Originally Posted by ladd
damn just saw there was the awards reveal on MU lol
congrats @nebjiamn (and prob some others, i just skimmed)
welcome to the club of good players :curtain:
thanks i was really surprised because i didn't think i had good games on MU this year but it just goes to show the effectiveness of bribing people
02-19-2024, 17:26
ladd
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Quote:
Originally Posted by nebjiamn
i didn't realize we were getting a 4 hour night, that's neat
initial thoughts are, uh, we have a lot of PRs. i know they're relatively low powered from what we've seen so far but just from a claim standpoint seems like it coul dbe v rough (and thus kindof unbelievable) for wolves to have to deal with 4 PRs?
i think wolves have 3 prs realistically (cause the backup backing up visor role seems...real weak?) so village having 3+1 doesnt seem impossible but ofc i wanna see what gemma claims
02-19-2024, 18:44
dyachei
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
I was really hoping we'd flip logic first but I guess GH had the worst game I've ever seen from village him
It doesn't really change much for me because i think visor's treatment of logic makes logic a wolf. not to mention logic's reads all game
I'm concerned about ender but I'm always concerned about ender. Part of me wonders if he tried to pocket me by not w reading me this game
Im up for claim if you guys think it makes sense but I dont feel like doing the math. Just lmk
02-19-2024, 18:56
nebjiamn
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
I was really hoping we'd flip logic first but I guess GH had the worst game I've ever seen from village him
It doesn't really change much for me because i think visor's treatment of logic makes logic a wolf. not to mention logic's reads all game
I'm concerned about ender but I'm always concerned about ender. Part of me wonders if he tried to pocket me by not w reading me this game
Im up for claim if you guys think it makes sense but I dont feel like doing the math. Just lmk
wdyt changes if logic flips v here now that gh is confirmed v?
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
i thought hally kinda laid it on thick last night about gh being lock wolf but... i also kind of agreed so this is an unfair read maybe
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
but at least it will make hally sweat a bit :curtain:
02-19-2024, 18:59
nebjiamn
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
i'm fine with claiming too
02-19-2024, 19:04
ladd
Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
I was really hoping we'd flip logic first but I guess GH had the worst game I've ever seen from village him
It doesn't really change much for me because i think visor's treatment of logic makes logic a wolf. not to mention logic's reads all game
I'm concerned about ender but I'm always concerned about ender. Part of me wonders if he tried to pocket me by not w reading me this game
Im up for claim if you guys think it makes sense but I dont feel like doing the math. Just lmk
i think even if we flip logic first and he flips wolf there is no way we dont lunch gh next so imo wouldnt have changed much
regardless with 4 villa prs claimed/ded, if anyone else is a pr they should probably claim cause idt having 5 villa prs is that likely