The Megapolis

Hi HTW Team,
I've been away on business, is the chariot update out yet, I know I may be a nag, but I have been away and i dont know what is going on.

Also I am very impressed with your teams work. I am a Computer Engineer and a entrepeneur, i have started two software companies in my career, and i am thinking of starting a game company, or better yet investing in one. I think you guys have real great talent, with creativity, and most important working as a team. If you guys ever think of starting a company to create great things like you are doing here, i can probably invest in you guys, and i could find investement depending on the size of the project. I come to Europe from time to time, and would love to meet with you guys. I think you are in Europe right.

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Tical, can you send me your email by PM?

maybe this is a stupid question, but in what order does the ages come in hellenic.

Geometric=Early
Proclassic=High
Classic=Late
???

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Quote[/b] ]Also I am very impressed with your teams work. I am a Computer Engineer and a entrepeneur, i have started two software companies in my career, and i am thinking of starting a game company, or better yet investing in one. I think you guys have real great talent, with creativity, and most important working as a team. If you guys ever think of starting a company to create great things like you are doing here, i can probably invest in you guys, and i could find investement depending on the size of the project. I come to Europe from time to time, and would love to meet with you guys. I think you are in Europe right.

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Thank you for this great compliment,Sir.I'me in a total different line of work in real life but i was thinking in that direction for myself,maybe something is brewing here.Tiscal,my mail is in the buttom of my profile if you want to vent some ideas.

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Quote[/b] (Count Zimoa of Flanders @ Mar. 24 2004,03:05)]He Spaghetti http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-jester.gif
Download the HTW beta v2.1 and combination patch from here:

The Org Second Server

1.Use a new installation of MTW+VI. (rename it to HTW if you want)

- Than extract the Hellenic Total War v2.1 Beta into the new MTW main directory.
- extract the Combination patch into the same new directory.

2. Now go to your new MTW main directory and open the Textures/campmap/Hellenic folder and convert the mapTex.jpg and mapTex2.jpg to TGA format,Use IrfanView for that.

IrfanView

Just open the two files using IrfanView and use the save as file option and save the two tga´s into this same Textures/campmap/Hellenic folder.


Cheesy
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I am puzzled, why I should convert the jpg files to tga? Can't the converted files be in the HTW rar in the first place? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/confused.gif

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Zitat[/b] (todorp @ Mär. 25 2004,16:54)]Cheesy
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I am puzzled, why I should convert the jpg files to tga? Can't the converted files be in the HTW rar in the first place? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/cheers.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/confused.gif

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No they cannot: If they would be in tga format in the rar-file then this rar file would have about 22mb more in size.

So to save bandwidgh and time to download it its in jpg format.


If you would not convert them the map would be the old MTW one.

Update, next 2 units. Iphicratian Hoplite and a Nubian.

http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MT...Yficratian.gif

http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/Units/Nubian.gif

Really like the Nubian http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif

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Hi all,

Lots of things are happening here ...
Flip great units ... I have managed to finalize the Persian shields and weapons (thanks to Zimoa) and I have just to make the spear and pavice coordinates. This will not take too much time now.
I like the new hoplite units though you made a Ificratian and a Hellenic pike units. We will need the Ificratian type for the Late Hoplites too. Just hope there is no great change in the coordinates of the new units to speed things up. BTW flip, I have made a new Skithic type axe that was very popular in the east.

I have also changed some parameters of the Persians so we might get a Persian Spearmen unit. The main problem remains that all Persian units should be placed in attack mode ... but they are missile units. Any way I have to find a way to make them use the Sparabara formation 80% of the times.

African units (Nubian Ethiopian) would be fun to play with. Really strong warriors but other wise very light using small shields and spears or just large axes. They would blast though other eastern unit types but with Hoplitic units things are grim.

Flip, how do you fill about cavalry after these are done?

Antalis I have finally developed the Photos from Delphi region, I think you would find more than 2 or 3 maps for mountain river type maps in them.

At the moment I´m in testing phase with my maps and I´m trying to give you the best expirience you could get with the landscapes and castles: So I hope you´ll like them and enjoy the new units from flip in a new enviroment.
The maps will come as an addon to the old maps: That means that also the old MTW maps (without the churches) will be playable.


Antalis

Komninos,

Just something I was curious about;
Phalanxes had a hard time manouvering (sp?) to face enemies from the sides which gave them a weakness on the flanks and rear (meaning it took a lot more time to face another way), which posed a real problem when already engaged, correct?

So have you tried altering columns 30 to 33 (Gnome Editor)? Those are the columns that deal with the unit's movement speeds. The units in vanilla MTW itself all have the same values for these movement speeds. But quite a while ago I made some alterations to it myself and it seemed to work. So has the HTW crew tried to fiddle around with these values? Could make for a more historically accurate based fighting system? This way the phalanxes cannot face incoming enemy units so fast as any other in HTW making it a lot more important to stay in formation. Just a thought mind you http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif

Cheers,
DnC

PS. I have very little knowlegde about greek warfare (mostly learned things around these boards), but thought this was the case and this might help create a more enriching gaming experience?

This would be an interesting thing for all spear / pike units.
Since we can do it I will see in to it. I hate the Gnome Editor and similar tools I will see what I can do in my Excel file. The problem is that phalanxes if warned and not engaged could change direction very quickly the last became first and the first last row. In Alexander’s square formations this was the case for all four directions.
This can’t be implemented in MTW engine. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/frown.gif

I will see what I can do.

maybe this is a stupid question, but in what order does the ages come in hellenic.

Geometric=Early
Proclassic=High
Classic=Late
??? ¨

i think my computer done something wrong, so please answer me

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Geometric=Early
Proclassic=High
Classic=Late

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That sounds about right

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Citaat[/b] (komninos @ Mar. 26 2004,08:17)]This would be an interesting thing for all spear / pike units.
Since we can do it I will see in to it. I hate the Gnome Editor and similar tools I will see what I can do in my Excel file. The problem is that phalanxes if warned and not engaged could change direction very quickly the last became first and the first last row. In Alexander’s square formations this was the case for all four directions.
This can’t be implemented in MTW engine. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/frown.gif

I will see what I can do.

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Yep I saw that problem aswell, but at least it could get somewhere in the right direction.

Just did some testing.

Komninos, if you take for example the Spartan hoplites and change MIN_TURNSPEED to 0.5 (don't know if 0.5 actually works or if it just translates ingame into a 1 as a minimal value), MAX_TURNSPEED to 2, TURN_TO_MOTION_SPEED to 4 and keep MAX_INMOTION_TURN the same and then test it. Do you see it heading to somewhere that may be to your liking? I know it's far from perfect so far, but maybe with a bit of tweaking it can be done just about right enough as far as can be done with the MTW engine.

HI to everyone. First day here to this site. been reading for hours and I'm pleased and impressed. I set myself up to mod with the hellenic now after trying 'Forge of Destiny' and the 'Patrician' mods.
I'm wondering about the end dates of these mods and the original MTW. One thing I disliked tremendously was the the game will end in 20 moves message.
I saw a post on how to modify end date around but I cant seem to find it now.
Is there a way to extend the end date in the campmap/GameEnd file or somewhere else maybe?
thanks

Hi Graccus http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/smile.gif :


Open your campmap/startpos-folder: There you will find the campaign.txts, like the three for HTW: Hellenic_DA, Hellenic_PCL, Hellenic_CL.

Open one of these campaign files and there at the beginning of the text you will find this:

//========================================
//Start Date
//The year in which this
//campaign will begin
//========================================

SetStartDate:: 400
SetPeriod:: LATE
SetEarlyPeriodStartDate:: 150
SetHighPeriodStartDate:: 250
SetLatePeriodStartDate:: 400
SetGameEndDate:: 500

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Change the SetGameEndDate to whatever you like.

For example:
//========================================
//Start Date
//The year in which this
//campaign will begin
//========================================

SetStartDate:: 400
SetPeriod:: LATE
SetEarlyPeriodStartDate:: 150
SetHighPeriodStartDate:: 250
SetLatePeriodStartDate:: 400
SetGameEndDate:: 800


greetings:

Antalis

Update, Yficratian hoplite. Kom, I found a solution to use this one for both eras: as Late Hoplite and as a Phalangite. I'll send you a email.

http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/Units/h53.jpg

http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/Units/h54.jpg

http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/Units/h55.jpg

Thank you vary much Antalis,
Graccus

A extra capability for the Iphycratian slot
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/Units/h56.jpg
Proper colored crests for hoplites
http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/Units/h57.jpg

For last the African unit. That was a long road. Foot units are closed. Mabe a late peltast to finish. I'll take some days and I'll be away for the next week. Komninos will have a lot to do. Then, lets go to the mounted guys.

http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/Units/h58.jpg

http://filipeabranches.no.sapo.pt/MTW/Units/h60.jpg

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Quote[/b] ]Just something I was curious about;
Phalanxes had a hard time manouvering (sp?) to face enemies from the sides which gave them a weakness on the flanks and rear (meaning it took a lot more time to face another way), which posed a real problem when already engaged, correct?

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Alexanders phalangites and the early Seleucid ones could manouvre very easily in zero time,turning either to their side or their rear.As the years went by this ability was lost.

The same comes for the Early Spartans (until nearly 370BC).They could turn very easily to the direction they wanted.

Nikos

In a couple of days the site will be up again.

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Yay The mounted units are coming Bring 'em On

Hello again.
I'm now wondering if there is a way to disable files related to non-critical ingame messages, i.e. there is a famine in another region, or faction x decides he cannot win, or there was a storm on the coast of x province no ships were destroyed, the king of x has died but his heir replaces him, your daughter has passed the marriagable age, etc... I would like to disable all of these types of messages if possible.
Is there a way to remove these types of files?

That is already avaliable in-game from the original M:TW.
Beside the mini map you will notice a Grey box with a large >. Click on it and set off Display non critical messages to stop them popping on the screen. Also here you will notice other options like Auto tax/build/train and automatically save every turn ( usually set on by default)

Cheers
SZDC

I do that every time I play but still get all those messages

I always use AI for managing taxes and show computer moves is always off but I still get the messages constantly and it becomes a chore (boor) when I'm trying to build up fast. Lol seen them a million times now.
Do you actually play without having to constantly close those windows?