(Please forgive my earlier comment about you lurking to victory as a matter of course - which you quite correctly picked up on and put me quite properly in my place about - I shall never again doubt you; my master)...ahem
uhh yeah! that was OOC btw - and by OsiOsi I yam druuunnnkkk tongith! yay!
... i don;t even think that generous brewer Pyschonaut PWNed me! ..Is it night? or is it day?
It's day? OK.
Sigurd: I don't buy that a Merchant role would be spiked like that by Old Reenky - bless 'is finely polished greaves! - I just think that you have been otherwise engaged,, and as such I unvote: Sigurd ;..annnd
vote: Abstain until anytning else comes up. If you DO want a fight though then HAVE AT YAAAHHH! (I may be drunk, but I'm still aware that a Framer's '2' diddles over a Merchants '1')
I can;t be bothered to correct my spelling mistakes - they amuse me. night night
03-31-2009, 22:31
LittleGrizzly
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Funnily enough i was thinking something like the evil in every mans heart when i heard the last line... i was sure how to lynch evil lurking in peoples hearts though... so i kept it quiet...
The main idea i have at the moment is we ignore everything Andres says about the good men... secondly stay the course does seem the best option... who is the duel today ?
TBH the main reason i figured sigurd should go first is because he wouldn't be online to be questioned... now he is online im sorry we didn't give him a real mans death... in a duel*...
*much less manly than attacking a god though... ~;)
04-01-2009, 00:54
White_eyes:D
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
Funnily enough i was thinking something like the evil in every mans heart when i heard the last line... i was sure how to lynch evil lurking in peoples hearts though... so i kept it quiet...
The main idea i have at the moment is we ignore everything Andres says about the good men... secondly stay the course does seem the best option... who is the duel today ?
TBH the main reason i figured sigurd should go first is because he wouldn't be online to be questioned... now he is online im sorry we didn't give him a real mans death... in a duel*...
*much less manly than attacking a god though... ~;)
Me vs Lord Winter.....is he a farmer? or a merchant? :juggle2:
04-01-2009, 01:21
LittleGrizzly
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
You seem to be one of peoples suspects... i guess so.. there is less suspicion on seamus so perhaps he shouldn't duel...
Though thinking on it who would be harder for us to figure out were supposed to lynch than Seamus, with his role attached to pizza an all, thinking on it the game reenk part based this game around featured TinCow as an innocent character on someone else's role pm.... What you think....?
04-01-2009, 01:29
Seamus Fermanagh
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Sigurd, I do believe that you are innocent -- unless RR has tapped you in secret as you suggest. You may be fooling me, but I'll bite.....
Unvote: Sigurd
Vote: Abstain
I am looking for popcorn to pop just before duel time.
04-01-2009, 02:08
Lord Winter
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
My PM, Sigurd's request to be lynched seems like a waste of the towns time, he's probably not mafia judging on his behavior.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Hello Lord Winter, thanks for playing :bow:
Quote:
Farming is the eternal war continuously being waged by mankind against the relentlessly invading hordes of the evil plant kingdom.
:stupido: Definition of farming
You are a Farmer
Background:
In the beginning the gods/mods decided to create a game. A mortal multiplayer on-earth role playing game called Life. So they created the Earth. Then they created the factions that would inhabit the Earth. On the one hand there were the plants, a faction of seemingly passive warriors who overwhelmed others with their sheer numbers. On the other hand there were the animals, who were much less stationary and much less numerous than the plants.
The animals at first were seriously nerfed, with only some among them being able to cause minimal damage the plants by grazing attacks. What was worse was that animal poop was plant food! For a long time, the plants pwned the animals. Plant spamming was a frequent complaint to the gods/mods.
Obviously the game was unbalanced so the gods/mods decided to introduce a new animal class: the human. The human was the most dangerous animal yet. However, the human had a long learning curve so for quite some time the plants had an easy time pwing the human players who were all noobs at that point. Their gathering attack was even less effective against the plants than the other animals' grazing attack.
Eventually however, some clans playing on certain maps unlocked a new package: the farmer. For the first time, the humans began to turn the tide against the plants, much to the chagrin of the latter who accused the humans of h4x. Now that the basic techniques of farming have been honed the learning curve is gone and over 70% of players now choose to be farmers.
Beware, however, as the gods/mods are rumored to introduce a new expansion pack called Urbanization which will nerf the farmer and force him to the margins of Life! Luckily the release date is a long time away. Until then, you will continue to rack up the points as a farmer. You did have to find a new server though, as you got banned from your old one.
Battle Rating:
2 - You don't have any type of military training and are dirt poor (actually you have a lot of dirt...) but you are ripped from toiling the fields all day and you can swing a mean hoe.
Victory Conditions:
Outlast the usurpers (settler victory)
04-01-2009, 03:36
Reenk Roink
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Vote and Challenge Records
Lord Winter votes White_eyes:D White_eyes:D votes Lord Winter Seamus Fermanagh votes Sigurd Yoyoma1910 votes Sigurd Tristan de Castelreng votes White_eyes:D boudica votes Sigurd Psychonaut votes Sigurd - unvoted Sigurd votes Sigurd Yoyoma1910 votes abstain - final Shinseikhaan votes Sigurd Tristan de Castelreng votes Sigurd - final boudica votes abstain - final Seamus Fermanagh votes abstain - final
White_eyes:D challenges Lord Winter Lord Winter accepts White_eyes:D duel
Tally
Sigurd - 5 (Sigurd, Tristan de Castelreng, Shinseikhaan) Lord Winter - 1 (White_eyes:D) White_eyes:D - 1 (Lord Winter)
As the sun began to set again, the settlers gathered at the field to witness yet another fight and another execution. A man named Sigurd had shocked the settlers by stating his concern that he may be used by the usurpers, and thus he gladly welcomed death. Many settlers obliged, though later some retracted their votes as they saw no malevolence in Sigurd, only insanity.
Yet the tally still doomed Sigurd, but before his execution, there was to be a fight. Two farmers, one with the whitest eyes and the biggest grin and another who called himself a lord and loved the winter, had decided to duel for some reason.
They walked to the field, both of them grasping hoes. The man with the whitest eyes attacked first, taking wild swings at his opponent. Of course, he didn't hit a damn thing and left himself exposed to the man who called himself a lord. The lover of winter thrust his hoe and missed the man with the whitest eyes the first time, though he caught him the second and sent him tumbling to the ground. However, he missed driving the hoe for the killing blow and the man with the whitest eyes threw dirt into his opponents eyes, temporarily blinding him. He them charged the man who called himself a lord but ended up impaling himself on the hoe.
Rolling his eyes at the pathetic display of marital skill on both sides, the priest king Reenk Roink called for the damned, but as soon as Sigurd came before the priest king, he pulled out a knife and stabbed himself in the belly, uttering his last words: "You will never corrupt me Vode!"
Reenk Roink addressed his settlers: "Obviously we have not eliminated the last threat. Work harder! Do not give up after you have gotten so far!"
Voting Record:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Lord Winter votes White_eyes:D White_eyes:D votes Lord Winter Seamus Fermanagh votes Sigurd Yoyoma1910 votes Sigurd Tristan de Castelreng votes White_eyes:D boudica votes Sigurd Psychonaut votes Sigurd - unvoted Sigurd votes Sigurd Yoyoma1910 votes abstain - final Shinseikhaan votes Sigurd Tristan de Castelreng votes Sigurd - final boudica votes abstain - final Seamus Fermanagh votes abstain - final
Challenge Record:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
White_eyes:D challenges Lord Winter Lord Winter accepts White_eyes:D duel
Vote Tally:
Sigurd - 5 (Sigurd, Tristan de Castelreng, Shinseikhaan) Lord Winter - 1 (White_eyes:D) White_eyes:D - 1 (Lord Winter)
No great surprises there - just a waste of two innocent Settlers. The only thing I am certain of now is Lord Winter's status as a farmer.
04-01-2009, 09:20
Andres
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
I was ordered to post this:
Quote:
:stupido:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vode
Pissuf will be a little upset to learn that his latest recruit has chosen to join the unholy alliance between Me and Iffo. One more round and this pathetic little town with its' pathetic priest-king will be in our hands! Our fallen warriors will be resurrected and you will all suffer under their dictatorship. Iffo and Vode, Vode and Iffo!!
04-01-2009, 09:30
taka
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
ah, glad that vode plans to resurrect me
guess my student is doing well
04-01-2009, 11:36
Jolt
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Town will probably never discover who the remaining agents are. :P
04-01-2009, 12:08
TinCow
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Shinseikhaan - Poet - Innocent, investigated by Yoyoma Lord Winter - Claims farmer - uninvestigated
Psychonaut - Claims role blocker
boudica - Farmer - Innocent, investigated by TinCow
Ichigo - ? - Innocent, investigated by Yoyoma
Yoyoma1910 - Eye of OsiOsi - Innocent, investigated by LG Tristan de Castelreng - ? - Innocent based on CA investigation Seamus Fermanagh - Claims Shephard - uninvestigated
Well, we have 3 significant suspect left. Psychonaut apparently claims to be the role blocker. The role blocker stopped Jolt from killing, which helped get Jolt lynched. Thus, Psychonaut is not likely an ally of Vode and can be ignored.
Of the remaining three, Tristan was investigated but by the unreliable CA. However, CA reported the 'innocent' results on Tristan to Yoyoma at a time when he though Yoyoma was still on his side. CA had to eliminate both the settlers and the usurpers, so CA would have had no reason to hide a usurper Tristan from Yoyoma.
That brings it down to Lord Winter and Seamus. I recommend that Seamus be investigated tonight. If he is cleared by Yoyoma, lynch Lord Winter.
04-01-2009, 12:14
Askthepizzaguy
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
I endorse this plan.
04-01-2009, 12:21
CountArach
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Andres' post is an obvious attempt to get Yoyoma lynched. I suggest the town follows his advice...
04-01-2009, 12:26
TinCow
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
I also recommend no more dueling. If the remaining Vode target started the game in their current role, the plan I have outlined above should find them. If this plan does NOT find the remaining Vode ally, that means that either investigation results are inaccurate or that the player was converted at some point after they were investigated. In the latter situation, dueling will only decrease the amount of time left to figure it out. Duels no longer serve the interests of the town.
04-01-2009, 12:32
Andres
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
I also recommend no more dueling. If the remaining Vode target started the game in their current role, the plan I have outlined above should find them. If this plan does NOT find the remaining Vode ally, that means that either investigation results are inaccurate or that the player was converted at some point after they were investigated. In the latter situation, dueling will only decrease the amount of time left to figure it out. Duels no longer serve the interests of the town.
My new master told me that there will be only one more round. In return for my eternal soul, which I sold, I will be resurrected and I will rule this settlement for eternity, together with my comrades.
04-01-2009, 12:41
Jolt
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Teehee! All goes well. :D
EDIT: Forgot to say, TinCow's plan also has my seal of approval.
04-01-2009, 13:24
TinCow
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
My new master told me that there will be only one more round. In return for my eternal soul, which I sold, I will be resurrected and I will rule this settlement for eternity, together with my comrades.
How much does a soul go for these days?
04-01-2009, 13:41
Andres
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
How much does a soul go for these days?
1.000.000 gold pieces, to spend in The Settlement, after my resurrection :jumping:
04-01-2009, 13:47
TinCow
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
1.000.000 gold pieces, to spend in The Settlement, after my resurrection :jumping:
To spend on what? Aren't all the merchants dead?
04-01-2009, 13:56
Andres
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
To spend on what? Aren't all the merchants dead?
Eh, hm... :stupido3:
Bah, what a rip-off ~:angry:
04-01-2009, 13:57
Jolt
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Bringing slaves from the mainland to the Settlement to rebuild it so to bring back people to repopulate it. Afterwards to buy things.
04-01-2009, 13:58
Andres
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolt
Bringing slaves from the mainland to the Settlement to rebuild it so to bring back people to repopulate it. Afterwards to buy things.
Yeah, and we would then become the good men...
Oh, the irony.
04-01-2009, 14:00
Seamus Fermanagh
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Investigate away. You'll find I spend WAY too much time dealing with wool on the hoof to be pulling the wool over anybody's eyes.
04-01-2009, 14:00
TinCow
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Yeah, and we would then become the good men...
Oh, the irony.
Wouldn't you technically be Good Zombies? What with the rising from the grave bit...
Are you sure your 'fun bits' will still work after all that decay? I'm starting to suspect that you Vode folks didn't think this thing through before signing on.
04-01-2009, 15:54
boudica
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Investigate away. You'll find I spend WAY too much time dealing with wool on the hoof to be pulling the wool over anybody's eyes.
We should remember that it was implied in the write-up that the remaining servant of Vode is potentially impervious to investigation, so it is possible we might re-investigate everyone without getting to the bottom of it: I'm not sure the best way to proceed.
I understand TC's point that given the current circumstances, duels are not in town's best interest, but aside from a successful investigation there is no other way we might get a hint of who the mafia might be.
However, the duels so far have not worked in our favour and if we are not careful they will only lend the Usurper the edge - so it really is a double-edged sword.
I've added most of the known battle-ratings (haven't checked back for some of them, maybe someone else can fill them in as I have to go out in a minute) and if you think of how tough some of our opponents have been, our weak :daisy:s are incredibly lucky to have reached our current position and I think our greatest threat at this stage is actually complacency.
Quote:
Shinseikhaan - Poet - Innocent, investigated by Yoyoma - 1?
Lord Winter - Claims farmer - uninvestigated - 2
Psychonaut - Claims role blocker - 1
boudica - Farmer - Innocent, investigated by TinCow - 2
Ichigo - ? - Innocent, investigated by Yoyoma - ?
Yoyoma1910 - Eye of OsiOsi - Innocent, investigated by LG - ?
Tristan de Castelreng - ? - Innocent based on CA investigation - ?
Seamus Fermanagh - Claims Shephard - uninvestigated - 2
However, if the suspicion that we have no real way of knowing whether or not someone is innocent or not until they are lynched or get into a fight, I am inclined to agree with TinCow for now and leave the fighting to the zombies and dead mafia - who are annoyingly more noisy than those of us who remain alive :no:
If anyone can think of a clever way to use lynching without scuppering town, then I'd be prepared to go along with it, but math is not my strong point and the list needs completing. Otherwise, I guess we'll know who the mafia is when we lynch them.
04-01-2009, 16:05
Sasaki Kojiro
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
I think Seamus should be lynched. It's just too fun to give one of the masons a mafia role.
04-01-2009, 16:12
TinCow
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
Quote:
Originally Posted by boudica
I understand TC's point that given the current circumstances, duels are not in town's best interest, but aside from a successful investigation there is no other way we might get a hint of who the mafia might be.
However, the duels so far have not worked in our favour and if we are not careful they will only lend the Usurper the edge - so it really is a double-edged sword.
It is very possible that investigation results were flawed to begin with or that someone got converted/recruited after they were investigated. My recommendations for future actions are partially designed to determine whether that is true. If Seamus shows up innocent and LW's lynch does not end the game, then I think we must assume that someone was converted/recruited at some point in the game. This puts all living people back on the suspect list, including Yoyoma (who we already know it is possible to convert), and makes all investigation results totally useless.
At that point, I think that we'd need to use good old fashioned behavior analysis to find our mafioso. This works best the more activity there is and the more posting there is. Thus, in that scenario we need to keep the game going for as long as possible to increase our odds of spotting a behavioral aberration. Dueling will only make the game end faster.
[edit]For the above list, role PMs I saw for Yoyoma and 'khaan long ago showed them both with duel ratings of 1.
04-01-2009, 16:44
Reenk Roink
Re: The Settlement (IN PLAY)
:stupido:
The sun rose from her rest and revealed that no blood was spilled during the night, yet the settlers were unnerved that the portents spoke of a threat still amongst them. They began to discuss, save Tristan de Castelreng who wandered around aimlessly cursing the plebeians...
Challenge List:
Alive:
Shinseikhaan
Lord Winter
Psychonaut
boudica
Ichigo
Yoyoma1910
Tristan de Castelreng
Seamus Fermanagh
Executed:
777Ares777
Askthepizzaguy
Andres
TinCow
Jolt
CountArach
Sigurd
