Well I see two options. We either lynch Kagemusha now or we lynch one last suspected henchman and then Kage.
If he has a slave still alive, then we have to try to lynch the slave today anyway. If he does not, he should be down to one kill, which means there isn't as much urgency. So, I would generally favor lynching a suspect today, then Kagemusha.
Double A was totally inactive on the .org, CivFanatics, and TWC for 4 straight days. during that time, several games that Double A was involved and interested in continued without his involvement. Here, 2 might phases with slave kills happened during that time. Splitpersonality requested to be dropped or replaced in all of the games he was in, and was inactive for 4 days here as well, during which time there were 2 night phases with slave kills. Diamondeye replaced Johnhughthom, who requested to be replaced in my Murder Manor game, and requested to be replaced here. While he could be guilty, I doubt it. Diana Abnoba is someone I strongly assume to be innocent. Kagemusha will be lynched today or tomorrow, so that leaves:
Methos.
Well, it's certainly possible. The one thing I notice about Methos is that he's cool as a cucumber and does not offer alternative suspects on the rounds where atheotes dies and Kagemusha is first lynched. However, he doesn't vote for atheotes until it's basically been decided that atheotes should die, and voting for Kagemusha proves nothing because Kage can survive it.
So, if it is not Methos but Kagemusha has another slave, then there is no time and we lose if we lynch him. But, if Methos is the slave or another special role somehow, then we may drop our kills down to 1 and that should allow us to kill Kage at the last.
That leaves 2 votes versus 1 on Kagemusha, and the game would be over anyway if we were wrong about pever or Methos. So at that point the game seems won. Otherwise we were supposed to use our vig kill on Kage, and I am not sure that is so, or the game would be over already.
Yep, lynch Methos, then Kage. The only other option is lynching Kage, and I am struggling to see any advantage in doing so. So if he wins because of a miscalculation there, then good game.
06-01-2010, 03:19
Diana Abnoba
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
I think we already killed the henchmen/slaves, and all we need to do now is lynch Kage. But if you guys still need to kill someone else fine, just make sure you all vote the same. I believe that we may have 1 round left.
Split- not active, but not active on any forum game.
Double A- not active, but not active on any forum game.
Diamondeye- replacement player for inactive player.
Methos- voted several times to lynch Atheotes and Kage, never changed his vote at the last minute.
Diana- innocent, been Naib almost 2 rounds now.
Kage- Scum
Methos to me is the only one with a slight hint of scum, but not really if you look back on his posts. The only thing is he is a good player, that maybe could pull this off, but he is just too cool about it. So I really don't get the scum vibe strong with him.
I think we should just lynch Kage, but I understand if you guys just have to be sure and lynch Methos. Just make sure that you all vote the same.
06-01-2010, 03:21
Askthepizzaguy
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diana Abnoba
Just make sure that you all vote the same.
^
Yes, this.
06-01-2010, 03:26
Sasaki Kojiro
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
There is no good plan today that involves lynching Kage.
06-01-2010, 03:33
Double A
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
Yesterday I voted to lynch Kage, which is what we were supposed to do, when means I did vote to lynch the super bad guy. Are you just not paying attention, or just trying to hid your own scumminess?
I'm withholding my vote for now.
.
If the super bad guy is revealed, sometimes his scumbuddies will vote for him to make themselves look good, espicially when the super bad guy is unlynchable.
06-01-2010, 03:45
naut
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Sweet honeycomb, lynch Methos already!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
I'm withholding my vote for now.
Scum tell! I do that all the time... as Mafia.
06-01-2010, 03:53
Diana Abnoba
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Fine lynch Methos, you just ALL have to.
06-01-2010, 03:55
Sasaki Kojiro
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psychonaut
Sweet honeycomb, lynch Methos already!
Scum tell! I do that all the time... as Mafia.
He wants to see if a townie will vote for someone else, then he and kage can vote that person too.
06-01-2010, 04:00
Choxorn
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Methos is Nikolaos, so whether you lynch him or Kage today doesn't matter so long as they both die in the next two days.
06-01-2010, 04:04
Double A
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
So who are the other townies voting for?
06-01-2010, 04:10
Askthepizzaguy
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
So who are the other townies voting for?
Vote for Methos.
06-01-2010, 04:20
Splitpersonality
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Vote: Methos
06-01-2010, 11:35
Diamondeye
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
vote: Methos - and then Kage next round as Sasaki says :bow:
06-01-2010, 13:24
The Stranger
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
douible A should make new friends.
06-01-2010, 13:26
Renata
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Good luck guys.
06-01-2010, 13:45
Beskar
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
The town is going to lose epicfail, I can foresee it.
06-01-2010, 14:03
Renata
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Nobody gets to whine about losing who hasn't put any significant effort into winning.
06-01-2010, 14:11
The Stranger
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
can i whine? ill do it anyway.
no one is entitled to whine but atpg...
06-01-2010, 14:14
pevergreen
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
can i whine? ill do it anyway.
no one is entitled to whine but atpg...
Nah, he definately isn't, not after attempting and succeeding in getting me killed, incorrectly.
I do acknlowedge he seems to be trying for the town.
06-01-2010, 14:14
Renata
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
I'm entitled. :) But I'm not inclined. At least not about losing, if we do.
06-01-2010, 14:19
The Stranger
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
-_- if you are entitled than so am i...
06-01-2010, 14:21
The Stranger
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
Nah, he definately isn't, not after attempting and succeeding in getting me killed, incorrectly.
I do acknlowedge he seems to be trying for the town.
you tried to kill me too.. incorrectly. sooo... and if that hadnt happened. we wouldve lynched methos and we wouldnt be in this mess
06-01-2010, 15:31
pevergreen
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
I tried to get you lynched. My reasons, however, were not because I thought you were scum, more that you were detrimental to the town effort.
06-01-2010, 16:42
Methos
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
The town is going to lose epicfail, I can foresee it.
I agree. In all honesty, I hope we failed to kill the slave, that way tomorrow Kage and his remaining slave kill the town and we all have the great and amazing Sasaki to thank for losing the game for us! :bow:
Vote: Methos
06-01-2010, 17:08
TinCow
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
I agree. In all honesty, I hope we failed to kill the slave, that way tomorrow Kage and his remaining slave kill the town and we all have the great and amazing Sasaki to thank for losing the game for us! :bow:
Vote: Methos
If you are innocent, we can also blame you for losing the game for us. A falsely accused townie in this kind of situation should put up a much better defense than you have.
06-01-2010, 17:28
Methos
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
If you are innocent, we can also blame you for losing the game for us. A falsely accused townie in this kind of situation should put up a much better defense than you have.
Lol! I disagree. I thank you're just trying to find excuses to justify your own mistakes. I do admit that ATPG has a valid point on activity which helps remove suspicion from the remaining living players.
06-01-2010, 17:30
Askthepizzaguy
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
Lol! I disagree. I thank you're just trying to find excuses to justify your own mistakes. I do admit that ATPG has a valid point on activity which helps remove suspicion from the remaining living players.
Just for ships and gigolos, who do you pick out of the remaining living people to be guilty? Kagemusha and one more.
At least if we lose and you guessed correctly, you get to look smarter than the rest of us. :grin:
06-01-2010, 17:38
Diana Abnoba
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
There's plenty of blame to go around, so stop bickering about it. I made my decisions, based on in thread info and PM's sent to me. There were a lot of players that didn't send me any PMs, so if you don't like the decisions I made and you didn't send me a PM, sorry you have no right to complain. Also we had a lot of inactive players, that didn't add much input to the game, so again if you are one of them, you also have no right to complain. I think we did the best we could with what we had, and I like to look on the positive side here (at least until we know we've lost). "Stop harshing on my mellow, man." Just wait till the end to find out how well we really did. There's nothing we can do about it now. Yes, I too would have changed things, even from the start of this game, but isn't that always the way it is with 20/20 hindsight.
06-01-2010, 18:03
Methos
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Just for ships and gigolos, who do you pick out of the remaining living people to be guilty? Kagemusha and one more.
At least if we lose and you guessed correctly, you get to look smarter than the rest of us. :grin:
I believe the final slave was pever, but I'm still wondering if we've lost this game. We can't be sure about the re-animator and what side they are on, or whether they have their own VC. If they do, the it's going to end up like this:
Today: I'm lynched (5 remaining)
Tonight: Kage and re-animator kills (3 remaining)
Tomorrow: We lynch Kage (2 remaining)
If the re-animator isn't town or mafia and has their own VC, then this game either ends as a tie or as a town loss. I know that while Diana is Naib, she's protected, but will she still be Naib tomorrow night? If she is, the game ends as a tie. If she isn't, the game ends with the re-animator winning. This of course assumes the re-animator doesn't win as town. If the re-animator is town, then we win.
06-01-2010, 18:23
TinCow
Re: Daggers in the Night [In Play]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Methos
Lol! I disagree. I thank you're just trying to find excuses to justify your own mistakes. I do admit that ATPG has a valid point on activity which helps remove suspicion from the remaining living players.
Why should we bother trying to justify our mistakes? Is lynching the wrong person some kind of mortal sin in mafia? A town loss can be blamed on numerous people at numerous points in the game. Pointing the finger at Sasaki accomplishes nothing and it's also wildly inaccurate. When the town loses a large mafia game, everyone is to blame. Yes, even the person who was right all along but failed to convince the others.
