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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Logic
What isn't anti spew about that? Why do I have to care about Visor's threadstate here when I'm looking at Vanta? I don't care that Visor was on the chopping block at the time, Vanta's post is nonsense and seems like anti-spew and it's saying effectively nothing.
Raskol specifically told me when he invited me to sign up for this that I would not be judged for being a bad player!
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
@EnderWiggin can you lay out where your head’s at now?
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
curious what people think of dya today
their posts re: ender kinda pinged me
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Logic
What isn't anti spew about that? Why do I have to care about Visor's threadstate here when I'm looking at Vanta? I don't care that Visor was on the chopping block at the time, Vanta's post is nonsense and seems like anti-spew and it's saying effectively nothing.
everything?
anti-spew connotes some level of being 'outed' or preventing anything from being read into from pressure. how is that post, even if its 'saying nothing' anti spew when its something that vanta could have just ignored? there's nothing to ... anti-spew in it?? there's no meat on this bone
you calling it nonsense is hyperbole and you don't really seem like the hyperbolic type and i repeat, seemingly very disingenuous. what else do you have besides vanta's thoughts about the likelihood of them being nk'd and this nothingburger of a post to justify a wolf read there?
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Hally
benneh, what do you think of her visor stuff D1 though? it doesn’t really seem w/w to me from both sides
i was asked this yesterday i think and i went back and did not see anything super clearing
i just looked again and still don't
she puts visor in a list and narrows down her poe a few times, so its a decent look but i don't see anything convincing me i shouldn't re-eval on her atp? maybe i am missing something but i don't see any interactions day 1 worthy of calling it non w/w?
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Hally
curious what people think of dya today
their posts re: ender kinda pinged me
the 'synful' stuff seemed like a stretch
i'm hoping i can clear them off logic's flip but if he flips v they are back in the poe i think? idrk
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Hally
curious what people think of dya today
their posts re: ender kinda pinged me
I very specifically think that Dya being dogged on me is the only good look for them.
But the "I guess I can see ender, let's get logic first" doesn't read true, to me.
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Hally
curious what people think of dya today
their posts re: ender kinda pinged me
Which ones?
I thought they looked okay. GH flipping town altered my worldview, looks like maybe same for them. Even if they had Ender lock town before, and I don't think they did.
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Should I post my paranoid wild-ass theory? Y/N
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Vanta Black
Should I post my paranoid wild-ass theory? Y/N
yes but only if i can call it anti-spew later
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
nebjiamn
everything?
anti-spew connotes some level of being 'outed' or preventing anything from being read into from pressure. how is that post, even if its 'saying nothing' anti spew when its something that vanta could have just ignored? there's nothing to ... anti-spew in it?? there's no meat on this bone
you calling it nonsense is hyperbole and you don't really seem like the hyperbolic type and i repeat, seemingly very disingenuous. what else do you have besides vanta's thoughts about the likelihood of them being nk'd and this nothingburger of a post to justify a wolf read there?
I think that while my wolf game has gotten better, I have but one skill I can practice as a wolf. It's that my entire ISO is effectively useless nonsense in finding of my teammates.
Anti-spew, to me, is not just "I'm a wolf and gotta shut up," it's "I'm saying nothing that can identify anyone one way or a other." Your version of anti-spew is not my version of anti-spew, so I think we are just quibbling over our mismatched ideas on what the term means.
And I don't know what to make of "not the hyperbolic type."
So, to answer your Vanta question:
I don't like their posts. I don't see a through-line that reads like a villager's thought process.
I don't like their tone. It all seems to be saying what people want to hear.
For me, that's enough.
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
nebjiamn
?vote: logic
You led the GH vote with a question mark as well. Is there some kind of significance I should read into that?
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Logic
You led the GH vote with a question mark as well. Is there some kind of significance I should read into that?
no, its just a format error when i bold on this website for some reason
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Okay, here it is. Note that I consider this world very unlikely, but possible.
Murska and Rask are the deep wolves.
They agreed in wolfchat to sacrifice Syn and Visor. They killed Zack (instead of claimed protector) to set up Visor and darken Logic. Murska hit the "I'm on Rask forevah" thing pretty hard D2, so there's a good reason for a player who has outed two wolves to keep being alive. Murska survives to D4 which is kind of amazing for a doc who claims D1 IME. Murska's survival explains Rask's survival. Claimed doc even survives a jugg kill, if I'm reading Visor's flip correctly.
The only other explanation I can think of is that whoever they are, they are leavng Murska alive so the rest of us will think that. Although nobody thinks that but me, apparently. I mean, I don't exactlly think that, but it explains some things. It doesn't look like anyone else thinks that. Please feel free to refute it if you can and set my mind at ease.
There. I said it. Mock me, tell me I'm silly, call it antispew, whatever.
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
It's now 10:30 local. I'm heading to bed very shortly, so you have a few minutes if real timing with me. Tomorrow, assuming you don't hammer me, I plan to exhaust my posts showing my frame of mind.
I do not expect to survive the day, but I ask for the same engagement that GH asked for.
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Vanta Black
Okay, here it is. Note that I consider this world very unlikely, but possible.
Murska and Rask are the deep wolves.
They agreed in wolfchat to sacrifice Syn and Visor. They killed Zack (instead of claimed protector) to set up Visor and darken Logic. Murska hit the "I'm on Rask forevah" thing pretty hard D2, so there's a good reason for a player who has outed two wolves to keep being alive. Murska survives to D4 which is kind of amazing for a doc who claims D1 IME. Murska's survival explains Rask's survival. Claimed doc even survives a jugg kill, if I'm reading Visor's flip correctly.
The only other explanation I can think of is that whoever they are, they are leavng Murska alive so the rest of us will think that. Although nobody thinks that but me, apparently. I mean, I don't exactlly think that, but it explains some things. It doesn't look like anyone else thinks that. Please feel free to refute it if you can and set my mind at ease.
There. I said it. Mock me, tell me I'm silly, call it antispew, whatever.
We had no death overnight, so I'm inclined to clear both of them.
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Logic
We had no death overnight, so I'm inclined to clear both of them.
Tell me how that clears them. We have an RB claim.
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I mean, I said it was a wild-ass theory, and I WANT someone to refute it, but that didn't do it for me.
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Vanta Black
Okay, here it is. Note that I consider this world very unlikely, but possible.
Murska and Rask are the deep wolves.
They agreed in wolfchat to sacrifice Syn and Visor. They killed Zack (instead of claimed protector) to set up Visor and darken Logic. Murska hit the "I'm on Rask forevah" thing pretty hard D2, so there's a good reason for a player who has outed two wolves to keep being alive. Murska survives to D4 which is kind of amazing for a doc who claims D1 IME. Murska's survival explains Rask's survival. Claimed doc even survives a jugg kill, if I'm reading Visor's flip correctly.
The only other explanation I can think of is that whoever they are, they are leavng Murska alive so the rest of us will think that. Although nobody thinks that but me, apparently. I mean, I don't exactlly think that, but it explains some things. It doesn't look like anyone else thinks that. Please feel free to refute it if you can and set my mind at ease.
There. I said it. Mock me, tell me I'm silly, call it antispew, whatever.
my critique would be that visor's role likely confirms we have a town protective and if we have a protective that hasn't counter-claimed, lets say, by end of mid day today, then they might be soft-throwing here
i don't think its likely visor's role only exists to interact with the way ladd's role is written so we kinda have to have some form of protection/redirection otherwise visor's role is just nonexistant
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Logic
We had no death overnight, so I'm inclined to clear both of them.
I died?
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Logic
We had no death overnight, so I'm inclined to clear both of them.
ladd was targeted last night and is dying today
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
nebjiamn
ladd was targeted last night and is dying today
I only read the first part of the ability, and assumed he just VTed himself.
Well, that now means that every single person that I've had a scumread on (or tinfoil pocket) has been targeted by the scum for death.
F. my life, I'm garbage this game.
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Maybe i am a dummie but i kinda think logic is v? But then idk why zack died
Pure toan rea tho
Dya push on ender seemed questionable...hally posting also kinda pinged me uh oh
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Logic
I only read the first part of the ability, and assumed he just ICed himself.
Well, that now means that every single person that I've had a scumread on (or tinfoil pocket) has been targeted by the scum for death.
F. my life, I'm garbage this game.
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Anyway, vanta's theory holds some water. I'd argue in favor of Murska as scum before Rask.
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
Vanta Black
Tell me how that clears them. We have an RB claim.
So I guess I missed a roleblocker claim, too. Who?
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
Do people really have no doubts on logic?
Gonna conserve the other posts for a re read, may try to re read from the start everything since game is not that long/dense
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You seem to have had a scumread on ME, and I have not been targeted for death. If that makes you feel any better. Or was it a real scumread?
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
ladd
Do people really have no doubts on logic?
Gonna conserve the other posts for a re read, may try to re read from the start everything since game is not that long/dense
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I have doubts for sure
but I also don’t see how I can solve the game with him alive tbh with how things have gone
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Re: 17er Saints and Martyrs
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Originally Posted by
nebjiamn
I have doubts for sure
but I also don’t see how I can solve the game with him alive tbh with how things have gone
I guess so but ill still see what he posts and maybe gonna pivot to someone else
:curtain: