Mafia Gear Solid: Incredibly Poorly Reenacted [Concluded]

Who is split in that quicktopic? Big Boss?

Yes, Dandy Man was AVSM as he forgot to change his quicktopic name.

He used that quicktopic name in the game he hosted, A Black Country, go check the mafia quicktopic in that thread if you want proof. Everyone else is accounted for, Big Boss is Split.

Excuse me for being sceptic.

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Originally Posted by Andres

Tratorix and johnhughtom seem WoG'bait to me.

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Huh?

Vote:Andres

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

Huh?

Vote:Andres

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I thought you hadn't voted the previous round, but apparently, you did. Should pay more attention :shame:

So far, I'm the only one who revealed. No comments on that? Nobody else feel like revealing his role and describing his pm?

I've practically revealed, all is already stated.

How about this, we don't vote until a consensus is reached, or... you seem too trigger happy.

Vote:Johnhughthom

Have you seen nothing in this thread!?

Edit: Pressure Vote this is.

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Originally Posted by Death is yonder

Edit: Pressure Vote this is.

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If by "Pressure Vote" you mean "Vote intended to show someone the error of their thinking that will be changed when you have thought a bit more" then my vote was a Pressure Vote also. I had no idea Yoda was a member here.

so John, Who are you?

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

If by "Pressure Vote" you mean "Vote intended to show someone the error of their thinking that will be changed when you have thought a bit more" then my vote was a Pressure Vote also. I had no idea Yoda was a member here.

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By pressure vote I meant to convey the message that the town needs to do this.

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Just keep in mind, there is ZERO chance of victory if the townies don't reach a consensus.

You all pretty much have to vote the same way, given the likelihood of 2 mafia remaining and only 4 of you. If the townies are divided 2-2 then the mafia can simply bandwagon whoever is not guilty or add 2 votes to an innocent. If the townies are divided 3-1 then the mafia can tie it up, 3-3.

All 4 townies need to make a unanimous decision and hope it is the correct one. Perhaps one of you innocent ones should random.org the remaining list of suspects and hope for the best?

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The Dark Side is strong within you, young townwalker, ignorance the pizza guy's wisdom is not, folly it is to ignore it.

I didn't get the chance to read the quicktopic so I missed a lot of the info. My role is the same as Andres', his summary matches my role perfecty, so Unvote:Andres.

:inquisitive:

Unvote; Johnhughthom

Could we reach a consensus within 2 hours or so?

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Originally Posted by Death is yonder

Tratorix
Andres
Chaotix
johnhughthom

The mafia is someone out of these people.

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I'm not 100% sure of the reasoning behind this, I'm assuming Atpg's edited posts are behind it. If we are looking for two people it must be Tratorix and Chaotix, I suggest going for Chaotix and see if it flushes Tratorix out from his lurking.

Vote:Chaotix

I am not awake and clear-headed enough to make a choice; right now even after looking over the thread a few times...:wall:

But I think I should put pressure on Tratorix...:inquisitive:

This irradiates me, because now I need to make a choice that I can't take back....None of them have posted enough for me to make a choice so I well just wait for DIY to come to a choice:smash:

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This irradiates me, because now I need to make a choice that I can't take back....None of them have posted enough for me to make a choice

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Welcome to my world.

Its really just random, no clear or concise leads.

*pressure... pressure*

*pushes the red button*

I hate having the deciding vote :shame:

Vote:Johnhughthom

If its Tratorix, then it is a lurker victory then... :wall::wall:
If its Chaotix, good game
If its Andres, similarly.

Shoot me if I'm wrong, but this is merely going to be a lucky calculated guess, or a big, fat blunder.

No regrets eh..?

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Originally Posted by Andres

- line of sight and hearing are increased by the genes;

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The role pm actually puts that as an in-joke. Hopefully that will prove to Andres I have the same role and therefore I am innocent. I guess it means nothing to anyone else and will prove pointless.:shrug:

ARGHH!!

Unvote; Johnhughthom
Vote:Chaotix

If Andres has a cover pm, I'm going to be annoyed :juggle2::juggle2:

No more changes, good night. :sleeping:

Lynch tratorix for lurking... he hasnt posted in this thread for sometime...

Chaotix is not a bad choice either...for refusing to speak up...

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Originally Posted by Death is yonder

ARGHH!!
If Andres has a cover pm, I'm going to be annoyed

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To be honest I'm slightly concerned about that myself, it's the obvious cover pm...

Do what you like, but remember, we need votes and unity. John seems to be wanting to confirm Andres' story by similar role PMs...

I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate lurker victories. If you want to go Chaotix or Tratorix, be my guest.

"Refusing to speak up"? It's called "sleeping for the 10 hours I am allowed to sleep for every night". I apologize if I wasn't here to see the sudden burst of discussion. As it is, I do have a few useful comments to put out there... (at least, I hope they'll be useful :clown:)

Give me a minute and I'll have a multi-quote kinda thing up here.

you were my second choice~:pat:

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Originally Posted by Death is yonder

Basically, solid snake and his friends are the mafia, and fox hound is the town.

Now, overextended your hand have you?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

"Gee! I've never guarded the inside of a jail cell before!"

There was a knock at the door, and Caius readied his FAMAS and answered it with an authoritative, "Who's there?"

A loud smack was heard from the other side of the door, much like a hand smacking it's owner in the face. "I told you he wasn't just going to come out for us! He's playing mind games now, the dirty snake." Ocelot said to someone else on his side

"You idiots," Mantis said, "I'll get him..."

The door exploded open and a very powerful force compelled Caius to lie down and sleep.


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Everything was white and hazy, and Caius couldn't move his limbs, he felt like he was lying down on a table. "Oh no..." he wondered, "Did I get drunk at one of the guard parties again? Oh I hope I didn't embarrass myself..." but something interrupted his train of thought, it was a bright white light and two shadowy figures.


"No more accidents..." he heard a voice... liquid? "I don't want you killing him like you killed the DARPA chief.... Well no actually what you did to the DARPA chief was pretty cool, but could you make it a bit more painful?"

"Yes boss," he heard... ocelot reply? "I'll actually will the electricity surging through his body to hurt more just because you asked me to... Because that is definitely possible.."

"Good, we'll be watching through the glass, behind me." Caius heard a door open, and close. Then he felt a hand striking his face.


"Wake up." Ocelot said in a grim voice.


Caius was now groggy, but awake. He heard a whirring as the table he was on tilted forward, before him Caius saw the town behind a glass window, and Ocelot to his right. In the upper right hand corner he saw two... bars? A Greenish one and a blueish one... What were those?


He yawned loudly, it echoed in the small cold room.

"Sleep well?" Ocelot said sarcastically.

"Well actually yeah, this big table thing is pretty comfortable,"

"Glad to hear it," Ocelot said back.

"Where.... where are my clothes?" Caius said, looking down he realized he was naked, save for a pair of underpants.

"Don't worry... it's all here, not that you'll be needing it..." Ocelot smirked and laughed.

"What's that supposed to mean?!" Caius said, nervously.


"We're going to play a game snake... and we'll find out what kind of man you really are..." Ocelot said, stepping behind a large console.

He continued, "When the pain becomes too great to bear... just give up, but if you do your life is mine. Well... if you don't I'm going to kill you anyway, just saying..."



Ocelot then cleared his throat, "Press the circle button repeatedly to regain your strength. When you've had enough press the Select button to submit. When your life reaches zero, the game is over. There are no continues my friend..."

Ocelot cracked his knuckles, "I'm going to run a high voltage electric current through your body, if it's just for a short time it won't kill you."

"Okay..." Ocelot pressed a button, "Let's get started."


Caius saw the two bars on his right again. The green one read.... Johnny.... Sasaki? His name?! Was this the life bar ocelot mentioned? It wasn't very long....

The other one read.... time? The time he would be shocked? Holy that bar is long! He turned to his left and saw a large box... He spoke what he saw... "Circle..... restore life... Select.... submit? What the heck is this?! Why are you doing this to m-"

but he was quickly cut off by a jolt of electricity streaming through his body, Johnny saw his lifebar fall but he had no idea how to press circle. It seemed his fate was sealed.

The last thing he thought was, "Why didn't anyone try to help me?"

As you can see, he is clearly said to be Solid Snake. Why would he be confused about his own "name" 'Johnny Sasaki'? Additionally, why would he wonder why didn't anyone help him is obviously because he has friends, namely, the mafia.

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If Snake was killed in a lynch, then what, did he come back from the dead for the kill on Mantis last night? They call him Snake because they thought he was Snake. That's why they were lynching him.

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Originally Posted by Death is yonder

So, I'm getting voted just for being curious about my doubts?

It was stated that one of those who voted Beskar was Solid Snake, 3 out of four of them are dead, naturally I'm curious aren't I?!

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That's false, and split confirmed it was false. Snake is still alive.

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Originally Posted by Death is yonder

Yaropolk could either role block or investigate, believing the role block to be more critically important, he role blocked Whiteeyes.

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When did he block white_eyes? If I recall, Snake did not kill two nights ago. That evidence could condemn him, rather than clear him. If it was last night, I agree he's pretty much clear. If not, than the opposite is probably true.

If you want my role: I am an NBC Trooper. I believe, given Andres' description of his, we have exactly the same role pm. If you want, I can give a few details that he left out, and then he can confirm that he has them, too.

Aside from the things mentioned in Andres' pm (which are all in mine as well):

-The Big Boss genomes have enhanced my senses. (probably sarcastic)
-I can see in a cone of 45 degrees in front of me.
-I have the logical capability to follow footsteps and noises to their source.
-If I don't find anything, I'll know for sure it was just my imagination. (definitely sarcastic)

DIY is the only person i am 100% sure is innocent. Since he voted for chaotix for his final vote, everyone else should as well. Any other candidate can be manipulated by mafia vote! Sorry if you are innocent chaotix, but its the safest step at this point. Additionally not voting in line with diy is suspicious as it helps mafia.

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If Chaotix is innocent and votes aren't focused on him, mafia can still BW their votes on top of DIY and innocent dies.

If Chaotix is guilty, and votes aren't focused on him, mafia can BW someone else to save him.

The only way to take the reigns out of mafia hands is to BW Chaotix. Sorry buddy.

Just a heads up - Snake had two partners, Hal Emmerich and Meryl Silverburgh.

Have fun :laugh4:

I would like to extend this phase again, to help further discussion, because this is a critical round. If anything it will be a 12 hour one.

I'll adress some stuff now.

What andres put in the thread is okay, as it's a paraphrase, chaotix as well.


Caius had a FAMAS because that was the standard weapon for the genome army. He is called a snake because when you lynch someone you generally lynch whomever you think if the mafia, hence why they believed him to be snake. It's also a general insult from ocelot.


On the topic of cover role PMs... I will say nothing more than this, as a general rule you should always assume there are ones.


I'm very upset with tratorix's lack of participation, I'm afraid to say too much so I don't confirm him either way, but replacing him would be difficult, as I don't know if Taka will be here on time, and I also don't want to kill him


To explain the "Dude we're the mafia," Mantis did not recieve part of his role pm stating that he gets a townie vote every day, and my reasoning for that is "writing 3 hours of role PMs boggles your mind," and I think that's reason enough.



I have asked GH for another 12 hours extension, and it will probably be all the time the town gets to deliberate.


Current tally:
DiY 1 - (Andres)
Andres 1 - (DiY)
Tratorix 1 - (Chaotix)
Chaotix 1 - (Johnhughthom)


DiY you never unvoted Andres, you unvoted for Johnhugh, but you never technically voted for him! Just letting you know this.



Good luck town, I'm rooting for you! :P

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Originally Posted by spL1tp3r50naL1ty

I'm very upset with tratorix's lack of participation, I'm afraid to say too much so I don't confirm him either way, but replacing him would be difficult, as I don't know if Taka will be here on time, and I also don't want to kill him

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Hard to read that as anything other than tratorix being mafia....

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Originally Posted by Yaropolk

DIY is the only person i am 100% sure is innocent. Since he voted for chaotix for his final vote, everyone else should as well. Any other candidate can be manipulated by mafia vote! Sorry if you are innocent chaotix, but its the safest step at this point. Additionally not voting in line with diy is suspicious as it helps mafia.

Edit: To illustrate:

If Chaotix is innocent and votes aren't focused on him, mafia can still BW their votes on top of DIY and innocent dies.

If Chaotix is guilty, and votes aren't focused on him, mafia can BW someone else to save him.

The only way to take the reigns out of mafia hands is to BW Chaotix. Sorry buddy.

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Why are we voting for me?

You understand, I will oppose this vehemently, because not only do I know I am innocent (and therefore, you will all lose if you lynch me instead of someone else), but it also states in my role pm that I have to survive in order to win.

Furthermore, I agree with the logic that DiY is innocent (if perhaps misguided in his logic), and I am not voting for him, nor will I be. I suggest we go for someone who hasn't even shown up to defend himself, as it doesn't seem that split will be WoG'ing; this game is too short and it would be a detriment to the town anyway.

Okay okay, regardless of his faction he is a lynch pin holding this game together right now.

I have pursued bringing YLC in as his replacement.

Okay, then.

Unvote: Tratorix, Vote: YLC

Technically, not even a change of vote. I think Tratorix' role is guilty.