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that might be hard when going through the town west of nipton, unless you abandon them and dont save the sherriff. also definitely be hard at the Dam. Yes, you can ultimately resolve it peacefully, but you still do have to fight your away across it to get to the other faction leader.
then again, Stealth Boys, high sneak and high speech=might be possible.
Died only once while trying to go towards the Legate Camp which was mainly due to loss of concentration and spraying bullets around in vain. And my character was a man of words.
Well if you are refering to my comment then yeah, the battle for hoover dam isn't that hard really. What I meant however was the place called "The Fort". Charging in guns blazing through the camp to get to Caesars tent to take on him and his Praetorian guard is really hard. Even disguising yourself and sneaking up to Caesar's tent so you only have to take on the Praetorians is still really hard.
I second this statement after having trouble with it on my first playthrough, which I unfortunately had to restart after BoS Knight Lorenzo vanished upon taking ED-E from me for upgrades, which meant I couldn't complete Still in the Dark or ED-E, My Love.Quote:
Originally Posted by miotas
My character was around Lvl.19, specced for Guns mostly, and accompanied by Boone & ED-E (pre-upgrade) when I entered The Fort after hopping on "the last boat we'll ever take" at Cottonwood; I found the ascent to the Fort proper to be quite easy, with my Mysterious Magnum making short work of anything and everything hostile.
Naturally, I was pretty confident by this point... until I walked into Caesar's tent, that is.
Upon entering, I was overwhelmed by a few Legion mongrels, four or five Praetorians, Lucius, Vulpes Inculta and Caesar himself; they proceeded to KO my two companions instantly, something I attributed to the Ballistic Fists due to how quickly they reduced my own health to dangerously low levels... it was only by using Buffout, Turbo, Hydra and a healthy dose of evasive maneuvers that I managed to overcome the situation.
Oh, and this was on Normal difficulty/Casual Mode while I got used to the game; the only situation that proved as difficult for that first playthrough was entering Broc Flower Cave at a low level and finding that the Giant Rats could kill me in two/three hits... the reward was worth the sheer risk and fear of death, though. :P
Oh well, I should agree about The Fort although I've never fought my way up there. As I wandered around the fort, I always happened to think "oh hell, how will I, if I dare ?" considering the numerous troops and being stripped of any weapons.
Approach Cottonwood Cove with a certain ex-1st Recon sniper and find out... :PQuote:
Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
As a side note, I've just completed the game on Hardcore (normal difficulty), following the Yes Man quests and finishing in about three hours and forty minutes; I really enjoyed the roleplaying element of ensuring I was well hydrated and such, thus may well play through a new file in HC proper.
3 hours? my god did you do any side quests?
The only quests I followed were those related to completing the storyline in the quickest manner in order to get the Hardcore achievement. Here's a little walkthrough of sorts if you're interested in what I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prussian Iron
Character-wise:
- Female
- 10 Str, 10 Int, 10 Luck, 1 Per, 1 Cha, 1 Agi, rest in End
- Good Natured & Heavy Handed
- Melee Weapons, Speech and Survival tagged
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That's pretty much everything I did; I actually went out of my way to make the end-game easier though, namely upgrading the Securitrons and picking up Veronica... I could easily have shaved thirty minutes or so off the time if I'd avoided that step, but that would have prevented me getting the Wild Card achievement.
ah. well.....I guess thats cool. of course I suppose after a few playthroughs the side quests repeated get a bit boring, but I like to RP and only accept certain quests/perform them certain ways.
ex: for my current stupid, evil, giant brutish Legion character, I sided with the Powder gangers against goodsprings, got archimedes to destroy the NCR guys at helios, and refused the Novac quest outright. why in gods name should I be helping this stupid little town with their economic issues in regards to an old rocket testing facility populated by questionable figures described as ghosts/zombies? I could instead just continue on my way after beating the living shit outta boone for suggesting such a stupid thing.
of course viewed through the eyes of my character.
So, the first DLC 'Dead Money' was released earlier today for 360; has anyone else played it? Or are you all PC players?
I have to say that I enjoyed it; the atmosphere was tense (especially on hardcore!), the foes were tough (and some of the obstacles tougher still) and the storyline was actually pretty good... I felt I cared about the characters involved. The loot wasn't too bad either, some nice roleplaying items in the very least.
Difficulty-wise, you're warned that the adventure is recommended for experienced couriers of Lvl.20+ just before you begin the DLC; this isn't due to combat (which can be tough at times but is manageable), but more to the fact that there will be several occasions where having high skills will come in handy.
I managed to complete it in around six hours with a Lvl.8 (now 13) melee-orientated character with alot of right trigger spam, but I felt afterwards that I may have missed out on some loot/backstory due to my character's low level.
I tend to think that FNV's DLCs may be like what Borderlands had. About the only reference we have for now, Dead Money, is it so ?
I don't want new shooting missions. That's not F.
How do you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
I liked Borderlands, but some of the DLC (I'm looking at you, Mad Moxxi!) was rubbish; I really enjoyed Dead Money though, had me on the edge of my seat the entire time.
There's alot more to Dead Money than merely shooting/slashing your way through the Sierra Madre; you won't uncover everything without high stats and skills, and there were several occasions where I rued my low Repair, Medicine, Science and such as a low level character.Quote:
I don't want new shooting missions. That's not F.
That pretty much covers what I needed to hear. Thanks. :2thumbsup:
You're welcome. :3
Here's to hoping that Bethesda announce a Dead Money release date for PC/PS3 soon, so that I'm actually able to discuss the DLC and it's revelations with someone!
I would like more shooting missions, but tactical and maybe realistic. AKA the guys shooting at me dont run around like idiots out in the open and come around corners with me waiting to blow their head off. it'd be nice to see some A.I. trying to take cover (like what the one guy did in the G.I. Blues quest) rather than throw themselves at me. I mean, if NCR just runs up to CL and shoots at them from out of cover and at close range, CL would always win.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
of course, I always tend to think realistically and critically about firefights in games....maybe i'll just never get the kind I expect :(
It's no garden of roses, it's Mojave there. Shooting is something you may not, at some point, evade. I just don't want FNV getting "consolized" by DLCs.
You have to remember that downloadable content is one of the best ways for a company to make money on a game these days, what with piracy still running rampant and video game rentals/second-hand sales on the rise. By charging for DLC, which some people still buy even if their game is second-hand, the company is able to make money even if they lost some on the sale of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeftEyeNine
A warning about DLC, anyways; through character interactions and an epilogue, Dead Money lays the groundwork for future downloadable content, and it seems that additional content will have some sort of ongoing storyline, a build-up to one big finale which is entirely unlike Fallout 3's disjointed standalone content.
My guess is that there will be three, maybe four, additional pieces of DLC; I believe that one of these will entirely focus on a certain plothole mentioned in the vanilla content that is briefly touched on in Dead Money... look beyond the spoiler tag if you want to see what I'm referring to.
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To me, it feels that this was planned from the get-go by Bethesda/Obsidian.
However, unlike the removed content from Fable 3 (such as four clothing dyes or the Understone content), I don't feel ticked off about New Vegas leaving a major plothole open in order to sell DLC, because I get the feeling that it's going to be something really special and worth the extra pennies.
by "extra pennies" you mean...extra 1500 pennies....
Well, Dead Money cost me 800MS, which is about £6.80; apparantly there was an error on launch day though and some people were able to download the content au gratis...
For 30$ right now on Steam. Go get the best thing you could get in years now. :smoking:
Got the game on PS3 due to lack of hd space on my current computer. Messed around for a bit on normal with a starting character, trying to get acclimated to the whole thing, due to never really having played Fallout games before.
Currently doing a Very Hard/Hardcore character now. The survival isn't nearly as hard as I thought it would be, thanks mostly to goodsprings. Decided I'm going to go all the way to max level with this character, since I'm having plenty of fun questing about, with the exception of some of the the 'snatch monster eggs' quests. That was utterly brutal. Cazadores are just a dang nightmare at level 15. Had a lot more fun getting the Deathclaw eggs- Legendary Death Claw was one of the hardest things I've done, but in a good way, not the infuriating way packs of cazadores are.
Overall, having a lot of fun, even with the technical grossness.
I've started a game as a pacifist, and whilst more challenging it's not as hard as I thought it would be (but then I'm only at Novac so far so I may have to eat my words later). Abandoning all combat skills means my other skills are higher and makes it easier to meet the requirements for peacful outcomes.
It was a bit dicey but I realised that:Quote:
Originally Posted by Prussian Iron
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Ah. Well for some reason (definite glitch) after rescuing Beagle, I programmed the robot to be the new Sheriff. After leaving the casino, I found Beagle in a firefight with the new robot sheriff. Due to his preventing my fast travel, I had to kill the sheriff (malfunctioning robot crap...).Quote:
Originally Posted by miotas
I think the worse part of the game is the Deathclaws and Cazadores TBH. I mean, yeah, it's good to have some tough late-game enemies. But when they can soak up as much damage as they do, it's just ridiculous. There's no reason they should be able to take more than 6 Gauss Rifle headshots. The one-shot kills on me doesn't help either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaseikhaan
Hate those bastards. Maybe they should be difficult at under level 20, but comeon.
Of course my sentiment may change when we get a DLC where we get to join the Talking Deathclaws and take over Hoover Dam and New Vegas...
Dead Money released for PC today !
OOORAH ! OOORAH !
I can conclusively say that Dead Money was well worth the price I paid for it. The gameplay is like a cross between Thief, Dead Space, and Silent Hill.
Dead Money introduces two new enemies: the Ghost People, and holograms. Holograms come in three varieties; the stationary types which you use to distract Ghost People with, the vendors (of which there are very few), and the guards. Guards are unique in that they CAN NOT be killed normally. You need to destroy a nearby emitter to shut them down. Without destroying the emitter, the guards are immortal and WILL kill you. Thankfully, they have predefined patrol routes and a much more narrow field of vision, allowing a crafty Courier to sneak past them if needed (ala Thief: The Dark Project).
Ghost People are the most common enemy types, and come in four flavors; unarmed fighter, melee fighter (with plenty of throwing spears), trappers (who lay down annoying bear traps), and bombers (who throw gas tanks as grenades). Ghost People are unique in that they are flagged as Essential, meaning they are immortal, UNLESS you dismember them. If you "kill" one without crippling a limb or the head, they fall unconscious and will get back up in a few seconds with full health. Thus, the Bloody Mess perk becomes quite useful for a change.
Watching where you step if vital to survival. At the start, you have a slave collar that's keyed into a radio frequency. Certain frequencies will set off the collar and turn your head into oatmeal. This gets to be a problem when you meet the next challenge: radio emitters. Radios, ham radios, and emitters are all malfunctioning, producing the same frequency that makes your collar go boom. You are given a very short time to either disable these emitters or get out of range. Normal radios are easy enough to bypass; simply turn them off. Emitters are not as easy. There are two types of emitters: unshielded and shielded, and both are often hidden from view, forcing you to frantically search for them. Unshielded emitters can be destroyed with a single gunshot, but shielded emitters are turned off elsewhere (or not at all, in some cases).
As noted before, bear traps are extremely common in the Sierra Madre, along with the usual explosive mines, pressure plates, and trip wires. Light Step is extremely helpful in your first playthrough, but remember that Light Step doesn't help your companions at all.
Lastly, the final obstacle you need to face is the Cloud (no, not that emo pansy from Final Fantasy). The Cloud is a gas that is present everywhere in the Sierra Madre villa. Any time you're outside, you're breathing in the gas, which will eventually kill you. Thus, the only safe places to wait or rest are inside. You will occasionally find pockets of concentrated gas. Step inside one of these and your health will quickly drain, resulting in a quick death.
Companion-wise, you get three new Dead Money-only companions, all of whom are essential to the plot. No thanks to a plot device that's explained at the very beginning, if a companion dies, YOU die too. Needless to say, playing through Dead Money the first time through on Hardcore mode is NOT suggested.
Dog/God is a split-personality super mutant, and most likely the first one you meet. Using certain audio commands, you can switch his personality from Dog to God, and vice versa. Dog is the standard super mutant; dumb, brutal, and always hungry. God is a much more intelligent and articulate personality, but suffers in the combat department. Dog's perk allows you to kill Ghost People without dismembering them, and God gives you a temporary Light Step perk as well as a bonus to Stealth.
Christine is a human woman who got herself trapped in an Autodoc tube that malfunctioned, rendering her mute due to the injuries. Her dialogue is fascinating as you will need to figure out what she's pantomiming (Perception and Intelligence are quite useful here). The perk she grants is a few seconds of immunity to radio emitters.
Lastly, Dean is a ghoul gambler, having lived in the Sierra Madre since the bombs fell. Because of this, he knows more about the area than anyone else. He also has stashes tucked away in hidden locations. The perk he gives is a few seconds of immunity to the Cloud.
There are a few new weapons in the DLC. The bear trap glove is a nice little unarmed weapon, dealing extra damage to limbs. Melee specialists will find joy in Dead Money; they get the most love out of all the weapons. You have the cosmic knife (which can be crafted into the clean comic knife, super-heated cosmic knife, or the various spears), the knife spear, and the throwing knife spear. Ghost People carry a huge bunch of spears and throwing spears, giving a much-needed ranged attack for anyone doing a Melee-only playthrough. Guns get the Police Pistol, a .357 Magnum revolver that deals quite a bit of damage. The main advantage to this weapon is that it requires 0 Guns skill, and is a standard holdout weapon (requiring 0 Sneak). Energy Weapon specialist will simply love the Holorifle. You start the DLC with it equipped, and it's an extremely damaging weapon that can be used for sniping or close-range combat (but because it's a shotgun, it's best used for close-range). Sadly, the Holorifle fires a unique energy blast, one that is NOT effected by any type of Energy Weapon perk, such as Laser Commander. Because it's a super unique weapon, you can't repair it without an NPC or a Weapon Repair Kit, even with Jury Rigging. The damage (further enhanced by a certain weapon mod) far more than makes up for its limitations.
As far as armors go, the selection is a bit limited, but still pretty awesome. The Sierra Madre Armor is lighter and better than the vanilla Combat Armor, the Assassin Suit is the light armor equivalent of the New Vegas Chinese Stealth Suit (but with better stats), and Vera's Dress is a sexy outfit for those times when you want to dress up Veronica or Cassandra (or wear it yourself). If you can stand the horrible yellow color of the Sierra Madre Armor, grab a suit to put on a vanilla companion.
The new perks are a grab bag of awesome and fail. Junk Rounds allows you to craft Guns ammo with scrap metal, tin cans, and the appropriate ammo casings. Very useful if you are low on a specific type of ammo and want to get more without going back to a vendor. Hobbler allows you to more accurately hit an enemy's legs in VATS, which is pretty important in Dead Money but worthless in the vanilla game. Heavyweight cuts down the weight of any weapon weighing over 10wg to half. In Shining Armor gives you +5 DT versus energy weapons when wearing any metal armor and +2 when wearing reflective glasses. And Stay Back gives you a chance to knock back an enemy when using shotguns. Old World Gourmet gives you +25% addiction resistance, +50% health bonus from snack foods, and drinking alcohol gives you health. Lastly, and my personal favorite, Light Touch gives you a +5% critical chance and your enemies a -25% critical chance whenever you wear light armor.
In addition to the perks you get from having a companion travel with you, you can also receive a free, and permanent, perk if you exhaust all dialogue options with said companion. Dog's permanent perk allows you to sometimes kill Ghost People without dismembering them, even if he isn't in the party, Christine gives you a special recipe to make Sierra Madre Chips (currency in the DLC), and Dean gives you a recipe to make Sierra Madre Martinis (a very useful, albeit addictive, alcoholic drink that doesn't increase dehydration in Hardcore mode).
The next DLC has you go to Zion National Forest and finally encounter The Burned Man.
loving this game.
just got to boulder city so not too far in yet i hope.
do get a lot of crashes tho, which may or may notbe due to some sound error.
> quite often left with a persistant buzz which forces me to restart the PC
also a pain that they could be bothered to fix the hud elements for eyefinity when the game itself looks fantastic in mega-widescreen.
but awesome game.
Oh man, FNV is awesome.
The DLC story line is incredible, and *spoiler alert!*
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I hate cazadors, deathclaws are easy with the AMR and the right perks, and it only crashes....weekly.
Oh, and you missed the Automatic Rifle, Kekvit.
That gun is the definition of overkill.
I guess the reason I forgot about it was because I never really used it all that much. I'm more of a silent sniper type, rather than a run-and-gun type.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thefluffyone93
Waiting to restart my HC/VH playthrough when I get settled. Did HC/VH on my very first playthrough and really liked my build, but got to the clinic pretty late in the game and realized that making my stats 10s were a waste as I could have left them at 9s. This irritated me because my build had left me with certain inabilites to get perks, and by level 20 I was picking level 4 perks because thats all there was. Little things like that bug me, plus I havent played in months and will need to start over in order to get back into the game. This time, I plan to ninja my way to that clinic asap and play a proper HC game with some added realism mods.