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Oooh, shiny buttons... And normal memberness is determined by post count? :)
Heh, nice try. :tongue: It's determined by whether you make solid contributions. Shouldn't be long now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jalf
Nazgul3 is now 5th Elector of Bavaria. :bow:
Lol, you see right through me :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
kk... so i have a question bout the clocks on here...
Military time... but set from what region?...
bc its like 22oclock on this...:dizzy2:
Welcome ArchdukeEvan to the House of Austria!
Due to current situations I have been wondering if it's even possible to oppose Imperial Dealings. :beam: The only thing I've come up with that lies under my jurisdiction would be to lower the taxes in all settlements Austria controls. It's a little bit lacking though.
"We will deny you by only sending 85% of our taxes from now on!" :2thumbsup:
So, if anyone has any advice how a situation like this could be represented with our current rules, let me know. Let's add some internal strife to our external ones. Oh and to the WotS veterans: This is in no way anything close to a civil war. I'm just trying to portray a disgruntled servant that does not want to obey his lieges commands. :yes:
I'm getting a little concerned at the state of the House of Franconia - they now have four generals, but with Lucjan being absent as their Head, are not making much use of them. This could be important with war now having broken out with Poland. Before, I proposed Fredericus von Hamburg (FLYdude) act as Steward. Perhaps he would like to appoint Gunther von Kastilien (Dutch_guy) as a Count fo one of Franconia's settlements?
In the longer term, we may to think about reassigning avatars - including Dietrich - given that we have active players without them.
I think we could wait a bit for our fellow Franconians.There are few great roleplayers among our Franconian players. I have been thinking about the replacement of the players that are not able to fight the battles for some reason and maybe we shouldnt let other players take the field,but rather autocalc.This could be our best chance to loose battles. I dont think that little strugling wouldnt hurt the game,it would be kind of shame if we would just win each and every battle.:bow:
Sounds good, I've been itching to fight since I got my avatar. How many settlemtens do us Franconians own at the moment, one, two, maybe even three?Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
I'd have no problem with taking up a settlement at all, I daresay it 'd increase my input in the game by a lot. It's time for Günther to make a difference for the Reich.
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Ty for the welcome...
but wouldnt it be more correct for the Austrians(east) to fight the Polish? considering that they are East of the Empire... Franconia being the northern house would make more sence to push Denmark out on the way... anyway... austria should take out the polish... we are in much need of Generals and towns from the looks of it... :sweatdrop: ... just my nationalist rant... lol
Well, the House of Franconia would be delighted in helping you out. Not implying that the house of Austria needs any help, of course, but it had to be said. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by ArchdukeEvan
:balloon2:
yes well i see... that would be a matter to bring up with someone of more authority i the house... lol... of course if you wish to help then by all means... do so... :laugh4:Quote:
Well, the House of Franconia would be delighted in helping you out. Not implying that the house of Austria needs any help, of course, but it had to be said.
I'm officially back from my vacation and ready to serve again. I'll take a look at the most recent save and see if I can chip in for at least the last part of the Diet session.
A quick thought about avatar assignments, we might want to reconsider assigning new avatars along family tree lines. The way adoption works, from what I've seen, is the eldest son accumulates adoptees to the limit, then it moves on to the second eldest son, in this case Dietrich, and it might eventually move on to Leopold. This still leaves Austria and especially Bavaria at a disadvantage, at the moment, for avatar slots.
Should we do anything about this? Or grin and bear it?
Welcome back dlain....sorry OverKnight is just not working for me as a name for you :laugh4:
The avatar assignment is as you have explained. It seems a little unfair but I can live with it.
I don't mean to be rude but your in game situation is "up a creek without a paddle", I hope things turn out ok!!
How was the holiday?
Er... I just went to download the latest save game and update the library and it seems that the game is at 1130AD, which is 5 turns into the Chancellorship. Shouldn't the mid-term session have been at 1140AD, 10 turns in? Are we going to have 3 interim sessions for this Chancellorship or is it a 10 turn Chancellorship?
I guess that should put Duke Leopold out of the game for the duration of my skiing vacation next week! :2thumbsup:
While most of the reasons I'm pushing for an allocation of settlements for Austria are indeed IC, I do have some OOC reasons too, and must say that I as a player am also a little unhappy with the recent events.
It is a matter of personal taste for me, that I just don't like this rigid allocation of settlements via North, East, South and West. I would prefer it much more if the territories of the Dukes were at least a little bit more scattered. The neatness of it all just drives me up the walls. :yes:
You also have to consider OOC as well as IC that the Italian lands are far richer and popolous than most other lands surrounding the HRE. They just plain generate more income and grow faster. It's only natural that the House of Austria wants its share of that rich cake. It's just a little frustrating that there's little I can do within the boundaries of the game to change that situation.
So just a little frustration venting here from me, before I go on vacation. Just think about it and tell me what you think. Maybe I'll see it more relaxed once I had my time-out. And of course this should not be taken personal by any of you. It's just a game after all and I'm stating a complaint I have about the game. Nothing more. :beam:
I had planned Ignoramus would do a 10 turn stint as Chancellor. He called a mid-term session and given the requests for an emergency session, it seemed appropriate. We might review whether we need mid-terms for 10 turn Chancellorships but this time round quite a lot is going on that we can discuss.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
I know it puts more of a burden on the library, but we can update it just every full session if you like. Everyone should be able to download the saves and check things out for themselves.
The time updating the library isn't really my concern so much as consistency and graphics overload. I would like to keep the Bio info, map history, etc. on a consistent 10 turn period. That way it's logical to read over. Plus, the Bios will get REALLY long if I start doing 5 turn updates. So, I'll skip those and do a general status update of the world map and other temporary things which don't remain in the Library long-term. I will also make a list of the influence bonuses from stats for the purposes of voting and post that in here to save time.
Maybe I am being too reductive, but I think the allocation of settlements only really matters when we have enough Counts to govern them (and get the bonus vote for doing so). The wealth of provinces is an IC consideration, IMO, as it doesn't really affect the House.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ituralde
Prinz Henry has said he won't be bound by the geographic neatness, but Kaiser Heinrich has made an oath that he will. Pushing him into a corner on that is probably unhelpful.
The Emperor in this respect is more like a referee than a player. You can protest his decision, but co-operating and trying to play the game is likely to be more productive. I kind of see him acting as a sort of King Lear, with the Dukes as his daughters. "Nothing will come of nothing."Quote:
It's just a little frustrating that there's little I can do within the boundaries of the game to change that situation.
Avatar assignment is much more of a concern to me than settlement assignment. Managing a build queue is so much less important than having an avatar to call your own. What can we do? I want to keep the family tree line = House assignment. Perhaps the Chancellor should decline any further Franconian adoptions for a while?Quote:
Originally Posted by Overknight
Where do we vote on the Edicts?
Hi Bizzair! Econ21 will put up the polls here in throne room,once the time comes.:yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bizzair
Here are the 1130AD influence bonuses from stats:
Fredericus von Hamburg - 0
Jonas von Mahren - 1 (loyalty)
Dietrich von Saxony - 2 (general points + loyalty)
Gunther von Kastilien - 0
Maximillian Mandorf - 1 (piety)
Leopold - 0
Sigismund der Stoltze - 2 (general points + loyalty)
Hnery - 0
Heinrich - 4 authority
Otto von Kassel - 0
Also, from looking at the battle reports, it looks like there are some battles which I cant find stats from. Can those be posted so I can update the avatars' battle stats?
For me provinces are only an IC thing and until there are avatars then not an issue at all.
I'm more interested in determining if dlain's idea about character allocation is true...if it is then we better adopt as many as possible to fill up the remaining slots so the next house can get some.
That or Leopold needs to start having son's!! :)
Wow, I look away for a day, and all sorts of discussions crop up.
Well, let's see what I can add:
1: Avatars and absent players: I agree with whoever said above that we should just autocalc those battles. Sure, it sucks for those of us who don't have an avatar, but it's an excellent opportunity to introduce a few losses into our track record. Otherwise we'll be able to keep going forever, always pushing the other factions and basically being able to hold our own with a general and 8 wounded peasants... ;)
2: Settlement allocation: How about the fairly simple system that the conquerer's house gets the faction? If, for some reason, the Diet sent a Franconian to take Venice, Venice would belong to Franconia by default (Of course, the houses may be able to trade internally, or it might be simpler for Franconia to just give it away to one of the other houses) It would at least get rid of the "perfect organization" with Franconian 100% north, Swabia 100% west and so on. It would also be a bit more unpredictable because obviously, coincidence and "whoever is nearest and has a few troops with him" will generally determine who gets to conquer the settlement.
3: Diet votes and influence: Two (two and a half) thoughts here. First, the current system seems overly complicated for no real benefit. Second, there's no real reason in the voting system for houses to stick together internally.
And finally (the half thought) I'm aware that I haven't yet voted and are ranked pretty much at the bottom, so I just "don't get it" ;)
So how about a system that simply allocates votes to a house as a whole based on how much land it owns? (If Austria has 5 regions, they get 5 votes by default), which they (or maybe their Duke) can decide how to allocate (could be evenly split between the players, so if there are 4 austrian players, they'd get 1.25 votes each), or they could be distributed based on rank or something. A few extra votes could be allocated based on rank as well, but I'd try to keep that simple. Of course, emperor, chansellor, dukes, counts would probably get one or two extra votes)
Could be a way to both force the houses to act more as a common entity that at least sticks together internally, and it would fuel the competition between houses (If we can invent an excuse to take a few Polish settlements before Austria gets there, it means more power and more votes to Franconia. A temporary deafness to the chansellor's commands might just be worthwhile for the power-hungry duke then ;))
And as an aside, am I the only one who wish civil war and rebellion like in the original MTW was possible? That would have been great fun :)
Edit: Oops, apparently I can't count... Also yay, I can edit! :)
All players should now be full members. It would be good if you set your title to be your kotr name, e.g. "5th elector of Austria" or whatever. That way it is easy to address you appropriately in the Diet. To do that, go to the "User CP" option on the top right of your Org screen, then choose "edit profile" and put your title in the "custom user title" entry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jalf
You should also be able to pick M2TW portraits (avatars), which will be particularly useful when you get allocated an in-character general and can pick his portrait.
so uh... sry about breaking the "charter" there earlier... i was realy into the role playing there and completly forgot about it...
Voting....
In the end guy's it must be simple. There is going to be a million options available and a million ideas had...but we need to decide and then keep it in place for consistency sake.
Maybe we should have a vote on the voting system?:inquisitive: :wall:
concerning voting... how does one cast a vote?... is it a Yes/No thing in a seprate thread or is it in the Diet itself? do you go through your Duke?... or what? ~:confused:
econ will post a poll (in a separate thread) with all the seconded motions on it. You simply check the box marking "yes" or "no" for each motion.
Just to say the Steward of Franconia, Fredericus von Hamburg (FLYdude), has made Gunther von Kastilien (Dutch_guy), Count of Stettin.