MTW2 Multiplayer Campaign Diplomacy thread.

I intend to register my disapproval by withdrawing my nation from the Coalition immediately, and withdrawing my agents from Danish territory as soon as possible. I have aided the Danes in the name of cooperation amongst Catholics, but I am ashamed to say it appears my aid has led only to more war. No Catholic nation need fear Poland's armies for so long as I rule, but neither will any further aid flow to the Danes.

May God bring justice to this situation, it is beyond my means to do so.

King Wladyslaw

:egypt:

To Holy Roman Empire and Kingdom of Poland,

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Do you prefer to support the heathen King of Scotland? Do you prefer to support the man who had led his subjects to God's fury? The excommunicated? It is your choice of course, if you want to support this enemy of the God. I have talked with the Holy Father, and he agreed to support Denmark to carry this chivalrous mission in order to cleanse Scotland from the filth and sinful beasts. In fact, as his show of gratitude, he agreed to form a coalition with us and give us a territory.

King Wladyslaw, you might withdraw your agents as you wish. Denmark has already trained its own agents to ensure the security of its borders. I know you have urgent need somewhere else, and we thank you for your generosity.

The Danish representative then draws his ancient sword and stares at the French representative, slowly walking in a circular pattern around the Frenchman, closing him

Frenchman...

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Originally Posted by Dubious French representative

Coward!...Coward!...Coward!

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Don't make embarrassment out of yourself. When you talk about cowardly act, it was clear by sending assassins to do dirty work, while at the same time the King of France and many of his servants hide behind the castle wall, only come out to kill the weaks. Surely you have realized that these act by Frenchmen are nothing more than act of cowards, cowards at their worst.

When the Danish representative got within several footsteps away from the French representative, he swiftly approached the Frenchman with the edge of his sword pointing close on the Frenchman's neck.

Those who lives by the sword shall die by the sword...
So be it! We the descendants of Vikings do not fear death. Death is on the hand of the mighty Lord, and not some coward like you. Countless enemy have fallen before us, so I suggest, that you think carefully about what you say.

The Danish representative pulls his sword and put it back on his shoulder, he slowly walks back to his bench

Noble Lords of the Council I have been deeply troubled by the events of the last few years. Since the destruction of that building at the Danes' capital it seems as though all of Europe is spinning out of control. I have been praying for guidance, and I believe I have found Poland's answer.

As I have vowed, so shall it be, no Polish armies will march into foreign lands except by invitation for mutual defense. Not so long as I, Wladyslaw, still reign!

Nor shall Poland supply any support to Catholic nations that war on other Catholics. No matter that the Scots are excommunicated, that is a difficulty between her King and the Pope, the good Catholic people of Scotland should not be conquered on those grounds. If the Pope felt Scotland as a whole required punishment he would ask for a crusade, which he has not done.

With that in mind, Poland is forced to withdraw from her alliance with the Danes. I have offered you a small island in a far off land as compensation King Knud, and I wish to personally assure you there there is no hostile intent behind this declaration.

Unless an explanation for their war with the Hungarians is forthcoming Poland will also be forced to withdraw from her alliance with the French. We are deeply grateful for the territory you have granted us, but I must stand on my honor first. If you wish those lands returned to you that will be arranged forthwith, though I am likely to lose control of Rhodes rather quickly.

It is my deepest wish to see Catholics everywhere living in peace with one another and not subject to war or oppression. I cannot set armies to march on those grounds, but I can and will rescind alliance agreements on those grounds, and any peaceful Catholic who asks for Polish troops to enter their lands and aid in their defense will be granted those rights, to the extent such is possible. Obviously I cannot aid Scotland as we share no border, nor military access, nor an alliance, and King Malcom is excommunicated. Nonetheless if Danish aggression should continue the armies of Poland will stand with the Kaiser, should they be invited into his lands, and will aid him in the defense of his cities.

God grant us all peace!

King Wladyslaw

:egypt:

King Roger, King Wladyslaw,

For years now, I have been reviled in France's name as a power-hungry and untrustworthy neighbour...

So much so that I felt it was time to prove to the whole known world how generous and peaceful France can be...

Some of you can testify to that already...

France is now only a minor faction in terms of lands, enough for our simple needs... We had over-extended and thus needed to recenter ourselves on the essentials, that being folowing the word of God...

While doing so, we gifted lands to the Hungarians in search of a peace-spreading alliance but in doing so, we had not counted on the King of Hungary inability to provide for a garrison for the city of Thessalonica...

We feared that the city left to its own devices would declare its independence, something we could not allow... Our forces retook the city and led to a misunderstanding with the Hungarians (OOC : if only we could reload...) who saw this as a declaration of war...

Know I perfectly understand your stance in regards to our alliances but I wish you will reconsider now that you can see that France is no longer a threat to any of its neighbours (whose number has been greatly reduced by the way...)

Finally, we have turned on the path of peace but for one thing that remains for us to do : punish the Danes for their unwarranted attack on our common Scottish ally...

We hope none of the Lords will stand in the way of that long overdue punishment...

King Philippe of Paris, Caen, Toulouse and Thessalonica, once called Greater France.

So if I am to understand the war with Hungary properly, you surrendered Thessalonica to Hungarian control. Their King then declined to provide a garrison for that city, which caused you to immediately retake it... to try to keep order?

The city is far from Hungary's borders, so it should come as no surprise that the Hungarians could not march an army there immediately. In any event, though it seems most strange, I am willing to accept that this is a sad misunderstanding. If you can secure a ceasefire with the Hungarians and there are no further conflicts I will not feel obligated to dissolve our alliance.

I will discuss the matter with the Hungarians at my first opportunity. I pray that God looks more kindly on your people during this period of consolidation.

King Wladyslaw

:egypt:

King Wladyslaw,

As you will surely witness, Thessalonica has been returned to Hungary and aptly garrisoned... King Laszlo has seen our point and has granted his pardon for our somewhat rash action...

A truce has been signed. I hope the good relations between France and Poland will continue unchanged.

King Philippe of Paris.

Indeed, at my soonest opportunity I will check with my Hungarian allies, and if matters are peacefully concluded then I see no reason why France and Poland should not continue their alliance. You understand that the royal families of Hungary and Poland are closely intermingled, and so their fate is inextricably linked to my own. I simply cannot disregard even minor incidents that threaten them.

Again, I pray that God looks kindly upon your consolidation.

King Wladyslaw

:egypt:

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:sweatdrop:

It seems as though war with the Hungarians is inevitable. Their large army that I informed you all of earlier has moved towards Zagreb. Two smaller armies have appeared from the south and east.

Also, to the Russian Duke I have sent a diplomacy towards your capitol, but I believe it will take him many years to reach you.

OOC: Everyone spammed me with diplomacy all at once :confused:

Hey Guys... is this the original IC thread for the Campaign game I just joined in Tran's place?

This is the one. :beam:

It is with great pleasure I announce that the former Danish King, Knud the First, has been slain by my assassins. His reign of terror has come to a timely end.

I, King Knud II, have ascended to the throne in his place, and I wish to end this pointless war with our ancestral brothers, the Scottish. If they accept my peace proposals, the foreign policy of this great Kingdom will forever be changed. I will withdraw from Scotland entirely, in the negotiated stages, and restore peace to the lands!

I wish to extend a hand of friendship to all states, and I also wish to renew my alliances, if they had been terminated under the previous King. I also wish to extend an offer to the Russians regarding peace. Riga shall be yours in exchange for a small sum of gold, and we will stay out of Russian affairs entirely.

The Danish people and their new leader deeply apologize to the entire assembly for the embarrassing and stupid actions of our predecessor. Our withdrawl from Scotland will be our reparations. We will be limited to our home 4 provinces, so I ask that in exchange for peace, we will negotiate with our friends and neighbors for territory. We want to survive as a state, of course. We will offer generous terms for any land you can offer us, and we will not forget your actions.

God willing, there will be peace in the realm again!

I would however, warn that any nation who has spies or assassins in our lands remove them during the next turn, or 2 turns if they cannot... otherwise they must be declared so I can escort them from our territory. Any spies or assassins found after that, even from our allies, will be considered an act of war. We are willing to offer the same terms to anyone who agrees to remove theirs.

Official Signature of the Recently Crowned King of Denmark, King Knud II

Pending verification of these claims I am certain King Wladyslaw will be pleased to resume his alliance with the Danish people. Before the last few years of madness relations between our nations was excellent, and I look forward to a return to those times.

I am saddened to learn of the death of King Knud, but perhaps it was justice. Rumor had it that he was planning to assassinate the Scottish King. Those who live by the knife often find death by it as well.

I don't believe there are any Polish agents on your land (I can't honestly remember, Tran and I had a deal where I was watching his borders for him with my spies.) but if there are they will be withdrawn in haste and apologies issued, of course.

May God grant you a more upstanding and consistent reign than your predecessor, good sir!

King Wladyslaw

:egypt:

Due to a series of dire mishaps, the French crown has fallen on the head of Prince Henry (now King Henry), last of his line who stricken with grief has left Paris, last French city, to its own devices to drown himself in the waters of the Mediterranean sea...

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More lies, Russian? Just who do you think you're dealing with anyway? I'm not a child who is fooled by such paper-thin fabrications.

You had designs on Denmark before I took over, yes, but when I took over your armies were not at my doorstep. Don't continue to mask your blatant aggression with insults to my intelligence.

I doubt there can be peace now. Take Riga with your invasion force, and it will seal your fate as a doomed faction. Were I able to cancel my diplomatic offer towards you, at this point, I would most certainly like to.

Let the lies of the Russian be known to the entire assembly. Their forces have trespassed onto rightful Danish land and they come bearing demands, not offers of peace. They threaten to attack us and then accuse US of being the aggressors! Surely they must be mad.

This is after my deal with the Scottish is all but concluded to pull me completely out of my friend and ally's land after the previous king went insane and I had to put him out of his misery. Surely there must be some bitter feelings there, but since all we asked for is peace and an honourable withdrawl, our current King cannot be called a warlike man. We even offered the Russians the province they desire for the embarrassingly low price of 2000 florins, and they refused, then 1500, and they refused and now sit at our gates making demands when they are not our allies and they have no military access in our lands. They've already caused riots amongst the Rigans who now fear for their lives.

I ask all spectators here; WHO is the aggressor? The Russians who invade and threaten us at our doorsteps, or the Danes who have no designs on Russia and even offered to cede them territory.

These warlike barbarians must be put to their timely deaths now. If my allies will not back me, that is their decision, and I bear them no hard feelings. But please do not interfere or support the Russians in this war, or we will rightly take it as an insult and an act of war. Please remain neutral and allow us to defend ourselves.

Any financial assistance would be appreciated, but unlike the Russians, we do not make demands of our friends and neighbors! Volunteer to help, or please stay neutral, that is all we ask.

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To put this public conversation in the proper setting...

But we will hear no more of the Russian's fabrications nor will we bend our knee to aggressor states. Danish independence is worth more than our lives, and certainly worth more than theirs.

We claim the right of self-defense. Prepare for war, Russian.

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Originally Posted by The Invader from Russia

It seriously was at your gates, just in the forest right next to Riga. A third party can pick up my save from last turn and check if they want.

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That's not necessary. We found your hidden forces from last turn. And they were not as close as they are this turn. Your movement is clearly aggressive, as you now reveal to us your invading army in an attempt to provoke a conflict and sit them flush with our gates.

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You moved approximately 4 tiles closer from last season. I don't know how revealing that you've been trespassing on our lands all along exonerates you, especially since we stated that we would not tolerate foreign agents in our lands, let alone standing armies! If I did not make myself clear, then hear me now: You have two options:

1. Remove your invasion force from my lands, and all agents except diplomats.

2. Die

The choice is yours. But once again, claiming that WE are the aggressors here is both an insult and an act of war. If they are not removed from my lands by next turn, it will be considered a declaration of war. I tire of these games. Do not sit astride the fence between peace and armed conflict. Pick one and be done with it. I am not to be toyed with, Russian.


OOC- If we are to have this conversation, this is the proper thread, EF ;)

Riga is a Russian settlement, I demand you withdraw from MY LANDS! In any case I will not be the one who dies.

Now I must laugh in your face.

Russia does not start with Riga. It is an independent state. So therefore, my possession of it would clearly indicate that it is Danish territory.

I offered it to you for a price that most would consider insulting if they were promised such a small sum for one of their few remaining territories. Considering your actions since then, it is amazing that we even offered to lower the price. But I am finished dealing with you in the form of words. You've made your intentions quite clear, and so have I.

You brought this war upon yourself, and your aggression is exposed for all to see. Clearly there is not enough space in world for the both of us to coexist peacefully, despite MY attempts. I am now forced to wipe you from the face of the Earth.

Denmark formally declares war on Russia in an act of self defense, as proven conclusively by the preceding events.

My lords, we have an announcement to make.

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Also, we have fulfilled our claim over Spain by seizing Portugal and Navarre from those who have unlawfully seceded from us. With this, we are now satisfied with the extend of the Kingdom of Spain, and shall publically state that he have no claim over lands not currently under our countrol, with the exception a remote part of Africa that is currently surrounded entirely by our land. As for the Kingdom of Portugal, we have no desire to expand across the Pyrenees. In honor of the late King Louis VI's wishes, we shall make peace with them, recognize their independence, and establish normalized trade with them should they so agree agree. Regardless, our armies shall not cross over into France.

The people of Spain look forward to many years of peace and honor.

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Originally Posted by Cecil XIX

My lords, we have an announcement to make.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/MPC1140-4.zip

Also, we have fulfilled our claim over Spain by seizing Portugal and Navarre from those who have unlawfully seceded from us. With this, we are now satisfied with the extend of the Kingdom of Spain, and shall publically state that he have no claim over lands not currently under our countrol, with the exception a remote part of Africa that is currently surrounded entirely by our land. As for the Kingdom of Portugal, we have no desire to expand across the Pyrenees. In honor of the late King Louis VI's wishes, we shall make peace with them, recognize their independence, and establish normalized trade with them should they so agree agree. Regardless, our armies shall not cross over into France.

The people of Spain look forward to many years of peace and honor.

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You put the save file in as the image by mistake.

:bow:

Edit: nevermind you fixed it. :)

Darn, you're quick. :beam:

I am the neurotic "refresh" monkey, after all.

Another war betwixt Catholics? At least you drove out the Muslims first. I look forward to the report of a resumption of peace between Spain and Portugal.

Congratulations on reclaiming Iberia from Islam.

King Wladyslaw

:egypt:

It is with great embarrassment that I must apologize to Scotland for taking Dublin almost as a reflex AFTER I sent him the terms of the peace treaty.

I've already discussed this with Scotland, and offered Dublin back and a large sum of florins as reparations.

Stupid, stupid, stupid...
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King Wladyslaw has been thinking deeply on the conflict between Russia and Denmark. As you both know, the King has sworn that no Polish troops will violate the borders of a Catholic nation during his reign, and that vow will be upheld no matter the cost.

It still displeases the King to have a war raging along the border to his home territories. It even more displeases the King that two of his allies have engaged in it, forcing him to choose between them. The King chose his fellow Catholics, but was deeply troubled over the choice.

With all of these matters in mind, King Wladyslaw wishes to make this further announcement: His advisors will be overseeing the war between the two nations on his border. If it appears that the war is getting out of hand and one of the nations is in danger of being wiped out, or the burden on the citizens becomes too great (I don't want to see any rising clouds of black smoke in other words), the King will take any necessary measures, including attempting to close the northern sea lanes to troop transports even at the cost of being drawn into the war, to preserve both of his earstwhile allies. His vow will be intact, but the war will be ended.

If at any time either nation wishes to negotiate the King is available to assist in any possible way.

King Wladyslaw

:egypt:

Friends of Denmark:

It has recently been suggested by our Polish allies that peace might be upon us between Denmark and Russia.

Let it be known that peace had been an option, and that Russia was to be given Riga for a small and insulting amount of money, 1500 florins, to avoid war. Instead they trespassed on our lands, declared war on us, and stole the rightful property of the Danish people.

Now they pawn our lands off to our allies (a dubious choice...) in an attempt to sow discension and mistrust between the Polish and Danish people.

If they didn't want war then they shouldn't have started one. Now that war is upon us, and the blood that has been shed and the insults that have been cast and the honour of the Danish people and the sovereignty of this nation has been violated, there can be only one option: The unconditional surrender of Russia, or the destruction of one of our nations.

There is no peace with bullies, backstabbers, and traitors, there is only war. Declared or undeclared, the conflict between righteous and peaceful people and liars and aggressors will always be waged. They are the ones who perpetuate war to begin with, and it is the solemn duty of the righteous to end the war as quickly as possible with the fewest casualties.

I am not like my father, a new era of honour has dawned in the Royal House of Knud. And our honour has been challenged by the pathetic and cowardly Russian scum. Now they will taste merciless and unforgiving Danish steel, and we are will within our rights as a civilized nation to defend ourselves thusly. One does not declare war, butcher the innocent, occupy and then pawn off their enemy's territory, and then expect there to be a peace deal.

I have three words for the Russian ambassador:

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EDIT: (removed voluntarily... even though this is IC and in foreign language, I'm sure the Org's rules prevent me from leaving even humorous Danish curse words for all to see)

After the recent and shocking events:

The Danish ambassador sits fuming... and mutters to himself;

All the lands in Scotland that we conquered... gone... the lands in Russia which we were preparing to conquer... gone, into the hands of our allies who already control half of the map... ourselves reduced to a small bit of scandinavian territory, and poorly developed lands... all we have left are our vast armies who have now nothing to do except curse and spit on the name of Russia...

Surrounded by dubious allies, almost none of whom have contacted us since the reins of power in Denmark changed hands... and no hope of winning any wars with any of our neighbors...

The Danish ambassador stands before the assembly, bows with respect, looks towards the Polish delegation, and promptly leaves the assembly, with no one remaining to fill in his place.

I know for a fact that you destroyed every building in the cities you conquered in England before you returned them to Scotland. Perhaps this is divine retribution for your previous actions?

The only settlement with any buildings remaining was Edinburgh, and I still had no peace agreement with Scotland. I also offered to pay for the reconstruction efforts after the peace was agreed.

Wait... why am I explaining myself? :laugh2:

I don't have a representative here anymore anyway.

:bow:

I have some troubling news to report.

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The once most powerful nation in the world has now been destroyed.