AI Battle Formation Mods

No clue?

DESCR_BATTLE_MAP_MOVEMENT_MODIFIERS.TXT
descr_formations_ai.txt
descr_mount.txt
descr_particle.txt
descr_projectile_new.txt

Sinuhet's mod replaces these. IIRC Darth also changes descr_formation.txt.

I can't seem to get a working download link? can someone upload this to a new mirror?
thanks

This thread has grown really big, and it earns this kind of good attention. I suggest that as soon as possible, the first post be edited to explain each formation basics for newbies. As for me, Sinuhet's still rocks! Great use of Elephantes by the way

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Originally Posted by Celtic_Punk

I can't seem to get a working download link? can someone upload this to a new mirror?
thanks

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I don't seem to be able to get the downloads work either.

I have not checked in here for awhile. Didn't realize the mirrors were not working. I'm fairly certain I still have the formation files located somewhere back on my home PC. First oppurtunity I have, I'll locate them and put up a new mirror for any who may be interested.

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Originally Posted by Lysander13

I have not checked in here for awhile. Didn't realize the mirrors were not working. I'm fairly certain I still have the formation files located somewhere back on my home PC. First oppurtunity I have, I'll locate them and put up a new mirror for any who may be interested.

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you are great, mate.
I had to perform a fresh install again.

Mirror fixed on first page for any who may be interested.

thanks champ

Already downloaded it,
thanks mate it is hard to choose,
but many advices sihunet's; which one do you advice?

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Originally Posted by Atraphoenix

Already downloaded it,
thanks mate it is hard to choose,
but many advices sihunet's; which one do you advice?

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I personally have always preferred Sinuhet Formations.

BTW, what's with the forums here? Why does it show up on my screen in this bland V-Bulletin white and blue layout that i cannot change? Perhaps i've been away too long but what happened to the old layout and the ability to switch?

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Originally Posted by Lysander13

I personally have always preferred Sinuhet Formations.

BTW, what's with the forums here? Why does it show up on my screen in this bland V-Bulletin white and blue layout that i cannot change? Perhaps i've been away too long but what happened to the old layout and the ability to switch?

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thanks mate for advice:beam:

the org collapsed twice in the last 30 days so they are making some different coding methinks. maybe they are still working to make it more stable..

Hello

I have recently installed this mini mod wihich incorporates a version of sihunet's formations https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=105242 . I play with alex engine .

It seems however that the hoplites under the control of the A.I. no longer fight as a tightly packed solid unit but spread out upon contact .

I don't like that a bit .

Is this caused by the formations files ? By something else ?

What can I do to remedy the ( perceived by me as a ) problem ?

I will download the file and try to restore the original EB formations and take it from there , but any suggestions are surely welcome .

And by the way , thank you for your contribution to the mod , and for perhaps taking the time to read and answer this .

Satyros

try phalanx mod , I have installed this mod on LZ3's minimod pack that includes phalanx mod as optional.
and to see aı hoplites in a one line is stunning.:2thumbsup:
also try on alex AI will encircle you and you will see a very much difference.
hoplites are better than phalanx in AI formations.

I may have expressed this incorrectly , I was talking about a unit of hoplites rather than a whole army formation.

The unit of hoplites doesn't behave well , this is the problem I would like to solve , I believe from what little I know that the A.I. doesn't use the "guard" button on the hoplite units which causes the problem , but not being an expert on this stuff I'd like a " pro " to comment on this .

I hope that I am not wrong in that the "Vanilla" EB hoplites behave as wanted , because in that case I'll look rather stupid . Heh .

Thanks for answering , sorry for not being clear in my previous post .

Satyros

So just install one of them?

Is it intended for EB1.2? The 1st post says intended for EB1.1, or may be no difference?

They work perfectly well with EB1.2. Formation mods are largely independent from most other game files.

what files exactly does this modify? export_descr_unit.txt?

No, only the two formation txt files (descr_formation.txt and descr_ai_formation.txt if my memory serves me correctly).

3 questions

1) Is this also for 1.2?
2) Is this save-game compatible?
3) Which of the 3 do you people recommend?

1) Yes.
2) Yes.
3) I think Sinuhet's works slightly better than Darth's but that is subjective. Chose either: the difference is small at best.

My EB is installed in:
C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\EB

So that means I have to point the installer to that location?

I don't know. What I do is point the installer to an empty folder, and then copy the installed files to the corresponding EB folders.

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Originally Posted by Skoran

My EB is installed in:
C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War\EB

So that means I have to point the installer to that location?

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No it does not.

The installer is structured to install to the root directory of your EB installation. Which in your case would be.....

C:\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Total War

If you pointed the installer to the target line in the qoute; you would have a second EB folder within the actual EB mod folder. Which of course would not do. Point the installer to the above root directory and you'll be fine......or of course you can manually install as Ludens suggested. Either way will work just fine.

Hey, guys!

I just downloaded this mod to use the "Sinuhet 7.0 AI Battle Formations for EB", and saw that there are five files.

DESCR_BATTLE_MAP_MOVEMENT_MODIFIERS.TXT
descr_formations_ai.txt
descr_mount.txt
descr_particle.txt
and
descr_projectile_new.txt

I know that the first one is not needed, the second one is needed, but I don't know about the last three.

Do I need the particle, projectile_new, and mount files?

I only want the AI changes, no gameplay changes.

Thanks in advance! :beam:

All you would need is the descr_formations_ai.txt file.

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Originally Posted by Lysander13

All you would need is the descr_formations_ai.txt file.

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Thanks! I tried it out and it works great.

AI Beat me in a battle, killed over one thousand of my men, including my general, in another battle, and is overall much more difficult. So far I'm loving this mod! :smiley2:

Hi All,

I'm using EB (with alex) and started using Darth's mod. I love the fact the AI keeps a line!
But my problem is that one Large unit size everything is soo stretched. Is there anything I can change? Or should I just put my unitsize on Huge? (don't now how my comp handles that)

I'm using this mod which is included with the EB MINI MOD PACK. It does not seem to include the player formations part. Is it recommended that I add this as well? Thanks!


EDIT: Upon looking at the files it seems that a different player formations was implemented. So perhaps I am good to go after all, unless someone recommends the MC one?