Capo de Tutti Capi - II [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by Andres

Why do you want to wait until tomorrow?

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More information from the conversation.

It wasnt finished at that point, I still dont think it is now.

Enjoy your pm's :bow:

Because it's interesting to see who the mafia hit tonight. Also, a lot of people havn't voted yet....things can still change

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Originally Posted by Woad&Fangs

Hi, are any of you interested in creating a doctor group? Only 3 are needed but I think that 6 is a good number because if I got lucky and we're all townies then we can run 2 groups at once or we can run 1 group while the others settle any personal grudges they may have. We can also take a few casualties this way without having to look for new recruits. I should mention that I like doing stuff like this and creating names for the group. I was thinking something along the lines of "Angels of Fatlington" or AoF for short.

I won't be available night 1 because I'll be whacking Pevergreen. Don't have a clue who I'll be working with, but I want him dead if I can. I'll be available after that.

Remember that if you decline then I'll be forced to assume that you're mafia

toodles.
Woad(or Dr. Waldinger works too)

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Whacking me night 1? Not very nice W&F.

Glen PM conversation:

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

"With my best friend pevergreen"?

I see W&F has contacted you. His plan to kill me will not last.

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4 hours later:

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

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Originally Posted by Glenn

You and Pannonian have a deal - he isn't saying anything - but you're saying alot, and if you want me to say anything at all on the subject of Capo, you are going to explain to me ************** why you voted for him.

To put your mind at ease, my location is to do with Fimbulwinter, when you suspected me I wanted to stir you up.
The Title is just a competitive attitude.

You are also going to tell me why WF wants to kill you and why he won't.

Glenn

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Why I voted for Pannonian: Back in Capo 1, I was new and posted a screenshot proving Sasaki as guilty in my eyes. Pannonian saw this unreputable truth and suicided. I felt terrible so I exiled myself from the org for about a month.

My post said it was to ease my regret or whatever i said. He then accepted my apology, saying that there were no hard feelings. I now have no loyalty to him.

I havent been in contact with Pannonian in 7 months.

Why W&F wants to kill me: No idea
Why he will fail: I already have a protection group.

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Thats part of it.


People are very afraid to commit. heheheh

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Originally Posted by Moros

Andres: not angry because of last game are you? As you don't even wanted to talk by pm?

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You've got mail ~;)

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

Enjoy your pm's

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I got exactly 1 (one) pm from you in which you proposed to become the town's coordination center.

Now, pevergreen, if you are going to be our coordination center, then you'll have all the valuable information. Tell me, why should we trust you and give you such an important position?

Why not waiting until somebody gets killed by the mafia or succesfully protected, because at that stage we will have a confirmed innocent.

Right now, you might as well be mafia scum who is going to get alot of important information.

I don't trust you pevergreen. Sorry. I prefer to wait until we have a or a few confirmed innocent players. Until then, you won't get anything from me.

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

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Originally Posted by Woad&Fangs

Hi, are any of you interested in creating a doctor group? Only 3 are needed but I think that 6 is a good number because if I got lucky and we're all townies then we can run 2 groups at once or we can run 1 group while the others settle any personal grudges they may have. We can also take a few casualties this way without having to look for new recruits. I should mention that I like doing stuff like this and creating names for the group. I was thinking something along the lines of "Angels of Fatlington" or AoF for short.

I won't be available night 1 because I'll be whacking Pevergreen. Don't have a clue who I'll be working with, but I want him dead if I can. I'll be available after that.

Remember that if you decline then I'll be forced to assume that you're mafia

toodles.
Woad(or Dr. Waldinger works too)

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A doctor who is going to kill another player?

Assuming this pm quoted by pevergreen is genuine (isn't it woad&fangs insead of Woad&Fangs?), I would like to know, woad&fangs, why would you want to kill pevergreen? How can you possibly be sure of his guilt?

A vigilante killing random players is as dangerous as a mafioso...

Would you like who that was sent to Andres?

I left it out originally.

God knows how I'm going to keep up with this game. I'm at college atm and it's pretty rare that I have the opportunity to check the .Org while I'm here.

Anyway, I don't have very long but I'd like to say that I think forming these vigilante groups is dangerous at this stage. I've already been approached twice and asked to put my trust in a group of unknowns(their names would not be revealed until my participation was definite). As I understand it, if one group member backs out, there's a chance the others could die. Seems a bit risky to me, especially when the target is fairly likely to be innocent anyway. Therefore, I won't be joining any vigilante groups in this night phase and I think the people forming them right now are suspicious.

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Originally Posted by Andres

A doctor who is going to kill another player?

Assuming this pm quoted by pevergreen is genuine (isn't it woad&fangs insead of Woad&Fangs?), I would like to know, woad&fangs, why would you want to kill pevergreen? How can you possibly be sure of his guilt?

A vigilante killing random players is as dangerous as a mafioso...

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Thats a good call indeed Andres, it should be indeed woad&fangs with no capital letters. What do you have to say in this little thing pevergreen?Now that i remember, did we had certain roles in Capo I, who´s main job was to try and kill the other, maybe woad and pevergreen are these roles?

Is it allowed to quote pm's then? I guess I misread the rules. Anyway I replied Andres.

Got pm's from pevergreen and Glenn too. Some guys are putting a lot of time in this it seems.

I copy pasted from a pm into word. The QUOTE tags around W&F's post are manual.

If it should be woad&fangs, my mistake. I automatically put Woad&Fangs.

I got pounded for this in Capo 1. It was manual, therefore, not perfect.

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

I got pounded for this in Capo 1.

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And you were mafia in that game ~;)

Tsk, tsk, tsk...

From the rules, "Rules Pertaining to Gameplay by dead players, Screenies, etc.".

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Originally Posted by Seamus

Dead players may not quote from a PM unless that PM has been posted in the public thread by a living player.

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Clearly implying living players can quote PMs. Also, from the code of ethics.

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Originally Posted by Seamus

Part of the charm of Capo is the degree of ambiguity and the lack, for the most part, of absolute results on investigations etc. You are free to fabricate, connive, or otherwise finesse your way to success. Screenshots destroy this and make the game pretty much moot.

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Living players can quote PMs, dead players can only quote PMs that are already public, screenshots are a no-no for everyone.

Meh. If you got pounded for it, then why do it again? I know I did that with CTDC I and got lynched or almost (not sure anymore) because of it. While I was detective. However since I would never do the quote manually again, so would any sane person...

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

From the rules, "Rules Pertaining to Gameplay by dead players, Screenies, etc.".



Clearly implying living players can quote PMs. Also, from the code of ethics.



Living players can quote PMs, dead players can only quote PMs that are already public, screenshots are a no-no for everyone.

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yeah I noticed when I checked them. Thanks anyway!:egypt:

It seems that in pevergreen, we have found our first real scum.:whip:

I'd still like to hear from woad&fangs though...

w&f, is pevergreen lying or not?

BTW w&f, it's in your interest to tell the truth, wether the claims are true or false.

Does anyone have a tally of the current vote? I've lost track.

Pevergreen might have or might not have changed the pm, but I don't think someone would make this up for some kind of reason.

wtf...err...w&f please tell us. Being silent pobably will only make you a possible lynch.

I'm curious as to what woad&fangs has against pevergreen, although I'm not entirely sure I can trust pevergreen either - I'm weary of the true intentions of players who seem willing to form up vigilante/protection groups so early on in the game. Going on a recent PM of his, pevergreen is trying to do that exactly.

So, woad&fangs, why are you trying to kill pevergreen? As Andres has said, fanatically random vigilantes are helping the mafia more than the town. Also why are you trying to form a protection group at a time so early on in the game when distinguishing between the innocents and the guilty players is practically impossible.

The latter question I also pose to pevergreen, although I do have fewer doubts over his intentions, since I am sure that he sent the PM to more than a few people (if he was mafia, this would make manipulation very difficult).

I'm not being silent. I've been asleep. I didn't check to see that they were word for word 100% accurate but the gist of it looked correct. As I've explained to several of the people I contacted, I have a personal grudge against Pevergreen and I wanted to deal with that. No strategy, just me wanting to kill him in the game. I guess that that plan is out the window now.

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Got pm's from pevergreen and Glenn too. Some guys are putting a lot of time in this it seems.

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I didn't receive any from Glenn... any thoughts as to why, moros? suspiciouss..

not as suspicious as woad&f though.. a personal grudge? give me a break :P:dizzy2:

intresting!!:book:

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Originally Posted by woad&fangs

I'm not being silent. I've been asleep. I didn't check to see that they were word for word 100% accurate but the gist of it looked correct. As I've explained to several of the people I contacted, I have a personal grudge against Pevergreen and I wanted to deal with that. No strategy, just me wanting to kill him in the game. I guess that that plan is out the window now.

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Anyone else you hold a grudge against? If so, you might be as dangerous for the town as any other mafioso...

W&F what if pever was a doctor or a detective... then you just wouldve rid the town of a valuable person just because you are mad... control your self man...

Please, don't spam. Thnx in advance - Andres

this game is tooooo slow...

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Originally Posted by Andres

Why not waiting until somebody gets killed by the mafia or succesfully protected, because at that stage we will have a confirmed innocent.

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Bruh? :dizzy2:

Have you forgotten that there are five families??!?!

In this game, death means nothing. At least, not until Seamus reveals the roles several days later, and by that time the issue will most likely be moot.

5!!!???!!???!?!?! families...

omg... this asks for a drastical different approach... i wonder how many wolfs are there... SASAKI!!! HOWL IN THE WIND MY FRIEND... I'm coming to get some WOLFS!!!!!!!! lads lock and load...

It's cool though, our enemies might kill each other. That would certainly help.

It's quite difficult though, so much things that can happen, and nothing you seem to know is really true.. hmm.. will be hard to pick a lynch.. :S

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Originally Posted by Andres

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Originally Posted by Glenn

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Originally Posted by Moros

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Please... I know English is not our first language, but its pressure. Geez!!! :beam:

hard... bet the reason will either be alphabetical or spamming... as usual...

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Bruh? :dizzy2:

Have you forgotten that there are five families??!?!

In this game, death means nothing. At least, not until Seamus reveals the roles several days later, and by that time the issue will most likely be moot.

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Meh, at a certain stage we will have somebody who we can trust.

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Originally Posted by Seamus

Dead players may not quote from a PM unless that PM has been posted in the public thread by a living player.

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A dead innocent can't quote a pm, but he/she can still tell us what information he/she has and can still somehow coordinate the town's actions.

It's safer to wait until we have somebody who can be trusted instead of pm'ing all our roles and night actions to an uncertain factor like pevergreen.