Imperial Diet

Prinz Henry: I agree with the Steward of Bavaria - it is an affront to have multiple rebel bands marauding in our hinterlands. While the current priority is stablising North Italy, we cannot allow brigands and robber barons to undermine our authority closer to home.

The notion of Houses commanding their own standing armies is an interesting one and close to the Charter provision for Field Marshals to be thus equipped.

I suspect that attempting to adequately garrison each of our border settlements so that they can repel enemy armies would be prohibitively expensive. A more feasible defence would be for field armies to be stationed within reach of multiple settlements. The settlements would have minimal or modest garrisons - just enough to hold out long enough for the defensive field armies to come to their aid. I believe Steward Mandorf may be familiar with the work of one of forebearers, Emperor Andragathius Flavius who instituted something similar to what I envisage, with border legions stationed at intervals to support a net work of forts along the Rhine.

This concept of defensive field armies would mesh well with the proposal for Houses to have their own standing armies for defence purposes.

Chancellor Sigismund the Chivalrous rises to his feet.

I am well aware that the loss of Bologna is a disgrace to us, and for that I am deeply ashamed. However, as we have no castles in Italy, it takes time for soldiers to reach Italy. However, I believe I have managed to restore the situation in Italy, and I hope to chase the Venetians from Bologna.

Sigismund the Chivalrous resumes his seat.

A messenger rushes into the Diet and walks over to Sigismund. Sigismund, who was busy eating his schnitzel. was slightly annoyed at this interuption, but his expression changed immediately when he read the message.

"Mein electors, the infidel, the Venetians, are assaulting Vienna's walls once again. Duke Leopold and his men are in good spirits and they are confient that they can repell this rash assault.

Vienna, the jewel of the Reich, must not fall. If it falls, then so falls the noble House of Austria. Let us pray to Gott for Duke Leopold's success!

Sigismund resumes his seat and his schnitzel.

Jobst von Salva stands up
this is turmoil, complete turmoil. We have the fate of one of the Noble houses of the EMpire at risk, we have Veneetians walking all over some cities! We have our most important wonders and cities being attacked! Exiles,Outlawas and muderers roam freely in our lands!!

if I have to i would chase very single one down, and I volunteer to battle any army, so please know my offer stands.

Now, we have the problem of these Italians stomping around our cities in italy, and several people want standing armies, and our Honourable Chancellor says that theres no castles and its too far of a walk. I see two solutions, one is this- Build a castle in italy! Sure It will cost heaps but if it offers protection and security, why not? my second solution is this- Why can't we send a army down there before another nation attacks, and keep it there, and if both solutions are combined, we could just foget about Italy, and concentrate elsewhere, like France or poland.

Jobst von Salva sits down, looks over at the chancellor and nods respectfully.

Forget about Italy my dear sire? Forget? We are the Holy ROMAN Emperor and have held Italian cities for years. Are we to forget the lives of the many soldiers who have paid for our recent acquisitions in blood? You my lord by even mentioning a retreat from Italy insult their memory and honor. If it were not for the current crisis's i would insist we duel now for the affront.

The only proper suggestion you made was for the building of a castle in Italy. I propose the we retake Bologna and turn it into a castle. It would be in a central position to provide troops to the entire southern front as well as preventing and aggression via the Pope or Sicily

I did not mean forget in that way!!!

I meant forget in the way of this- Lately we have been focusing on Italy, we need to focus on other countries, where other places are. And that si nonsense, you totally mis read my meaning, I never mentioned that we should retreat!

Duke of Franconia takes the stand.

"As cooperation is important to the Reich, so we can defend our borders effectively. I would ask for mein Chancellor Sigismund to reply on my letters. How im supposed to know what is happening in war with the Polish, if Chancellor keeps me completely in the dark?."

Duke of Franconia sits down on his place looking rather irritated.

A messenger makes his way into the Diet.

Kaiser, Prinz, Dukes and Counts of the Reich.

Duke Leopold sends word from the east.

The Venetians have been successfully repulsed from the walls of Vienna!!

Prinz Henry: My brother is to be congratulated on his defence of Vienna. But I fear that siege will not be Vienna's last. I urge the Chancellor to strengthen the garrison - we cannot lose Vienna... (sotto voce:) and I cannot lose my brother.

But what ill news is this from the North?! Three Polish armies have surrounded my brother-in-law, Dietrich. The Poles outnumber us and, it shames me to say this, they outmatch us in skill at arms. They include mutiple regiments of noble cavalry, fearsome axemen and even nobles on foot. Dietrich's own force comprises only his own escort and that of Gunther von Kastilien, plus a undistinguished band of foot. We have been outmaneouvred again. After Bologna, this is another humiliation in the making. I pray Dietrich can pull off another victory, but if not, there must be no shame if he is forced to withdraw from the field. I would rather we lose a little dignity than lose a Duke.

Sigismund the Chivalrous rises to respond to Prinz Henry.

"Mein Prinz, I fear it is I who is to blame. I have been distracted with events in Italy and I did not take the Poles seriously. I have not prepared the north as should to meet the Polish raids. Alas, all I can do now is pray for Dietrich's victory.

Sigismund humbly resumes his seat.

Otto von Kassel, after having arrived in the Diet a few days ago, stands to speak.

My lords, first I must speak in support of Prinz Henry's idea of a regional reserve of troops. We never know from where the next attack will come. If we keep our borders strong, this will discourage neutral nations from deciding to enter the fray. As some of you may know, I have had a difficult time holding down Milan, due to having a small garrison. Each city should have enough troops to effectively garrison it and there should be a reserve of troops for each region so invading armies can be met without disrupting cities too much.

As for the idea of converting a city into a castle in Italy, I can understand the motivation for the idea. However, a newly converted castle would require time and money to bring it to a point where it could train troops better than city militia. The loss of revenue from the already built up cities in Italy would be significant as well. I would suggest barracks improvements in our Italian cities rather than a whole sale conversion. We need florins as well as men to fight an effective war.

I am proud to say that Innsbruck is an excellent castle producing the Reich's finest infantry and cavalry. If it is properly managed, it can provide a solid core of troops, augmented with spear militia, for our Italian campaign.

I must congratulate Duke Leopold and the second Elector of Austria for the second successful defense of Vienna. No mercy for invaders!

May God grant us victory against the Lombard League and the Poles!

Otto sits.

Prinz Henry: On the matter of a castle in Italy, I believe such a decision ultimately lies with the relevant Dukes or Stewards, and their Counts. However, I agree with Sir Otto - what we need are not more men, it is better trained men. We must upgrade Innsbruck, Staufen and existing castles to be able to train high quality soldiers. Within two years, Staufen will grow large enough to be upgraded, but this will require large investments to fully bear fruit. I doubt we can afford to make such investments in many settlements.

I also agree with Sir Otto that we should be able to rationalise the garrisoning of our cities. Urban populations can support substantial numbers of militia free of Imperial upkeep, but we are not currently taking full advantage of that support. Sergeants, peasant archers and other rural levies should be confined to castles and field armies; our cities should be guarded by militia in the first instance.

The newest member in the Diet has been carefully observing and gets the nerve up to speak…


Kaiser, Prince, Dukes and Counts of the Reich,

Chancellor we are all in essence speaking the same message. The work is going well in Italy not has planned but going well. Are brothers there should be commended for their effort and the set backs are only minor. The Poles have put a new twist on things but we are capable of bending but not breaking.
The actions taken place in the east is why I feel that I must speak for the house of Austria as the poor cousins of the Empire. The Venetians have come up from the south thinking they had an easy objective but our men showed what the Empire is made of in Vienna. Members have mentioned resources to train men and keep our people contend. (No blue faces)
I think what has to take place is a policing action in the Empire. We must hold to consolidate what we have except whatever advantages present itself in Italy to take advantage of the situation there. (Edict 3.1)
In the rest of the provinces we should be developing our troops as mentioned by Prinz Henry. However, not just elite troops but our militia as well. We need to rid the county side of the Brigands that are roaming at will. These small excursions will harden our troops. Also a trained standing force that is in position may have our enemies think about invading our lands.
As for the economy if the Brigands can be brought under control our farms can remain at full production. Along with some military buildings we need to develop some commercial enterprises and have our merchants heading east. The Silk Road waits outside of Constantinople for our mercantile taking. I feel positive trade relations with our neighbour in Budapest will let us keep the Eastern border stable and possible aid against the Poles.
A strong economy will develop troops, keep the people happy they have food and shelter and those nations connected to us economically would not want the war to interfere with the wealth generated by our partnership.

The very nervous member sits down.

I agree mostly with the 6th Elector of Austria, we have many Birgands, true, and too build on what he said I say this: We have some spare Generals around, ones who are not engaged in Combat, why not use them? There trained for war? Ready for war, yet we don't use them!

But I have one question yo your 'solution' Sixth Elector Of Austria, where are we to get the money??? Sooner or later our generals will al be needed either at Poland or italy, then what? We have not a lot ofg money to train new troops, sustain our EMpire, so why don't we attack a major city? As someone said before, where are these venetian attacks coming from?Venice, Zagreb? So why not attack those places???

Taking a report from a scribe the 2nd Elector stands

Gentlemen,

The general situation of this empire is unacceptable!!

We can not defend our borders, brigands roam freely in the interior, Vienna is being siege yearly by the Venetian's and my Duke can do nothing about it!!

We have lost Bologna...

...I'll say this again!!

CONSOLIDATE NOW!!

If it has to go to an edict then so be it. Further expansion should be put on hold indefinitely until each house has at least one standing army of an appropriate size and high quality troops to defend it's region. Garrisons must be able to hold out sufficiently until these standing armies can arrive to relieve sieges or take the fight to the enemy.

For godsake gentlemen, there is a brigand Captain no less than one days march from Vienna! His company is over twice the size of the entire Vienna garrison. The only reason he hasn't attacked is due to my astute use of one of my more "worldly" sisters!!

I even have word from our outriders that yet another Venetian force is approaching from the south. Even as I speak we are all aware of Dietrich's situation. I pray to god he manages to stay in one piece and come back to us alive.

It's a disgrace gentlemen!! An absolute disgrace!!

Good night!!

With that the 2nd Elector of Austria turns and departs into the gloom of the approaching evening

Before the 6th Elector was to reply on the economy question he let his family member proceed with his plea of consolidation to the Diet Members…he addresses the economic question knowing there is nothing further to add to the 2nd Electors statement

To my noble friend from the House of Swabia you do ask where are we to get the money?
We need to spend money on money. We have to address the overall budget priorities with some minor reduction in the military.
There is an army of merchants to release in the Empire. Improving relations in trade to get these men building a financial network. Our infrastructure must be upgraded. Paved roads will aid trade and allow our own Army to move through the Empire to address threats. In our cities there must be economic stimulation with the proper markets to create financial centers. These cities should be identified that can take advantage of established trade routes and become a trading hub within and outside the Empire.
I feel we do not have the resources in Austria at this point for an offence strike to Venice or Zagreb. A defensive retraction to consolidate by all Houses and then we lash back with a mighty force of the Kaiser’s Imperial Army.

The 6th Elector sits down…

Noble Members... thankfully I have returned safly... I had to sneak around Vienna using narrow tracks through the Alps...

I must say that with the current state of affairs i must agree with my fellow country men... I was overly optimistic about my idea for an attack on Zagreb... in the South of Austria... I hadnt yet seen how affiars in the north had degraded... but... as i was saying... I must now agree with my fellow Electors of Austria...

Consolidate

a carefully calculated... withdrawl form advaced positions... to more defenceible ones... would be advisible... though the taking of citys ...is not out of the picture in my mind... we mus...t gat...her our fo...rces...

Sits down... tired from his jorney... the 5th Elector of Austria... falls quickly into a sleep...

Kaiser Heinrich:

I will hear no more talk of this withdrawl nonsense. If our available forces were properly utilized then there would have been no need for this situation to spiral out of hand as it did.

Chancellor Sigismund stands up.

The Kaiser is right; had I been more estute, this mess would not exist. Withdrawing is a coward's option. However, what is past is past. Hopefully I can restore the situation by the end of my term and then hand over to my successor.

I personally am not suggesting withdrawal but consolidation!

Duke Leopold needs an army!! Not a rag tag collection of militia to defend and attack our eastern foes!!

TOO MUCH emphasis has been placed on Northern Italy and the damn Pope in my opinion.

It's time to enact edicts that allow the Dukes of each house to keep their own lands in order, rather than having Imperial agenda's leaving the back door, side door, loft and cat trap completely wide open!!

I'm retiring to the saloon for a drink!! You're all welcome to join.

Kaiser Heinrich:

In this situation, everything is related. If we put more pressure on the Venetians, they will naturally be forced to go on the defensive. If the Venetians are fighting for their lives on their home turf, then they obviously can't afford to tromp a valuable army all the way to Vienna.

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TOO MUCH emphasis has been placed on Northern Italy and the damn Pope in my opinion.

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This was not our doing. In case you can't remember, we were the victims of unprovoked attacks from both Milan and Venice. Do you suggest it would have been better if we simply had yielded to them?

Remember, good Electors, as much as this war is hurting us, it is hurting our foes even more.

stirs... and finaly wakes and stands... with sleep in his voice...

how can this war be Hurting them more?...

Have we not lost Bologna... and we have Venitians on the very door-steps of Vienna... do we not?...

that doesnt seem hurt to me...

much more awake now

and i belive my previous statment was miss-interpurted... so let me clarify... i wanted a withdrawl to more defesible positions... but i only ment in Italy... with the rivers there... we should be able to force them into River assults... this would allow us to take the offensive agianst the weaker Poles... should we not destroy the minor second Front... before we attack the stronger one without our full strenght?

i once advocated an attack on the Venitians... i was in the Haste of celebration... excuse my rashness... and my change of thought... i have now more fully study the maps... and this seems much more plausible...

Kaiser Heinrich:

Simple. The Venetians have not made as much progress as they had hoped they would make. Bologna is lost, sure. But what they have gained is a hornet's nest surrounded on most sides by enemy territory. Surely they will realize that the capture of that city is only temporary.

In addition, they have lost many lives in Vienna with nothing to show for it. These attacks are surely bleeding them out, and their supply lines are long. They will soon be burned out if they have not been already.

Electors! The situation we find ourselves in is entirely due to neglecting the defense of the Reich in favor of strength in Northern Italy. This is a mistake!

What purpose does a strong offensive serve, if our enemies can strike at us freely from the rear? We must be strong on our borders and in our attacks. If the circumstances determine that we cannot supply the needs of both offense and defense at once, then the attacks must wait! The security of the Houses is of far greater importance than the pursuit of any war, no matter who it is against.

At this moment, Franconia, Austria, and Bavaria are totally insecure and subject to the whims of those who would kill our children, rape our women, and pillage our lands! In the north, the Franconians fight the might of Poland on their own. In the South, the Bavarian city of Bologna is occupied by the Viennese, and two groups of rebels sit outside of Nuremburg itself, terrorizing the trade routes. In the east, Vienna is under near constant siege and a large rebellion has occurred north of the city!

At the same time, Imperial forces in Northern Italy are strong and will surely bring us many victories in the times ahead. Yet, these victories will be hollow if the Houses are not protected! I say to you now, Electors, that the Reich must do all in its power to give the Houses the resources with which to defend themselves. The Houses must have their own armies, capable of defending their territories at all times! So long as all of the forces of Austria can be stripped and sent south, Vienna will remain vulnerable. So long as monies are denied to the Franconians to allow them to assemble an army to defend their territories and retaliate against the Poles, they will remain vulnerable. So long as all Bavarian forces stream southwards, our merchants and rural citizens will continue to be plagued by highwaymen!

I say to you now, that I will not allow this to continue. We are still a few years away from the next election for Chancellorship, but I cannot restrain myself given these circumstances. Electors, I will be placing myself before you as a candidate in 1140. I promise you that, should I be chosen, I will do all in my power to ensure that all Houses are secure. All Houses will have their own armies to command at all times; armies that cannot be removed from their lands without the consent of the Duke himself.

In addition to putting myself forward as a candidate, I will be proposing Charter Amendments that will make the formation of these armies permanent law. However, I swear to you that even if these laws do not pass, I shall uphold them for the during of the Chancellorship. No matter what occurs, if I am elected to the next position, no House will ever be left vulnerable, without the means to defend its cities and strike back at rebels and invaders.

It is the responsibility of every Christian to protect his family. It is the responsibility of the Houses to protect their subjects. It is the responsibility of the Chancellor to ensure that the Houses have the means with which to do this. I swear to you, Electors, I will give you the means.

Until then, join with me in praying for those who face battle. The Lord is with us and will hear our voices. So long as we remain true to the Word, we shall prevail in these difficult times.

Mandorf crosses himself, says a brief prayer, and sits down.

Kaiser Heinrich:

Thank you... Steward Mandorf (this was said with a slight smile) for the declaration of your candidacy. However, I must reprimand you for doing so. While there is no punishment in the Diet, it is grossly impolite and dishonorable to publicly declare one's intentions of candidacy while the current Chancellor is still in office.

I also remind you that the formation of these armies, while important, also cost money. Lots of it. And right now our best chance of improving our financial situation lies in continued campaigning in Northern Italy. Both Bologna and Venice are rich, and the real prizes are their seaports which provide us with some much-needed access to the rest of the world. If we were to reduce the strength of our forces in Northern Italy then our chances of success would be jeopardized and it would still take much longer to create these House Armies.

My Kaiser, if I have offended, then I apologize. Though I must admit, I do not see how offering myself for candidacy can possibly be of insult to Chancellor der Stolze. We have spent much time in this Diet discussing the future while waiting for news on the expectant battles. Given the relatively short time until the next election, I believed it was prudent to move into more constructive discussions, rather than continuing with complaints and plans without direction or solution.

I would point out that I did not suggest that we reduce our strength in Italy. The Imperial Treasury is capable of funding the recruitment of the maximum number of the highest quality of soldiers from Hamburg, Innsbruck, and Staufen, with much more to spare on the side. I believe that Household Armies can be created and dispatched from new recruits very quickly, without the need to reduce the size of the Northern Italian forces.

My Kaiser, you have three large armies at your disposal in Northern Italy, and only one large enemy army to oppose you. Surely you are a capable enough commander to gain victory there without further reinforcement?

Excellent Mandorf!!

You've got my vote, and I'm damn sure I'm going to do everything in my power to get the rest of Austria to support you!!

Turning to gaze at the Kaiser

With all due respect Kaiser, it is your very wish to continue chasing "Rich" cities in Italy that will maintain the present vulnerability in the rest of the empire.

Take Bologna fine...then cease and desist all offensive actions.

Create the 4 House Armies immediately by redistributing the current armies and reinforcing them from our three castles. This should continue for as long as it takes to have 4 equal standing armies of similar composition under the control of each Duke or Steward of the four houses.

And even if that takes 20 years it should be done!! Think of your sons and daughters gentlemen!! It is their future we are talking about here!!

Kaiser Heinrich:

Elector Mandorf, it is simply tradition that aspiring candidates hold off, and nothing more. It has been followed since this Diet has existed and even farther back, to the time of the Roman Republicans.

As for your suggestions, if you believe that these Household armies can be created without a serious drain on our resources in Italy and our treasury, then by all means we should do so. However, I am still a little uneasy about the possibility of you becoming Chancellor mainly because I am unsure if a pious Christian woman is capable of both running a country and manipulating its leader's strings.

As for the esteemed Second Elector of Austria:

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Take Bologna fine...then cease and desist all offensive actions.

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Cowardice! Sheer cowardice! The candidate you support says that Venice should be easily crushed with our available forces, the Pope has given us his blessing to attack, and these are the same people that brazenly break an alliance with us and try to capture YOUR capital trying to kill YOUR Duke. What more incentive to make the Venetians pay can I give you?

This war must see Venice in our possession at the very least. If we were to follow your lead then the nobles of the world would look at us and laugh!

5th elector stands quickly

Such blatent disrespect to our chancellor. He is Right!! We must act on the Venetians and accomplish both. With the money we get from the Venetian cities we can distribute that money into making new soldiers to fortify our borders, but like the Kaiser has succinctly said we need money and pillaging cities is the best way to go. Hail Mein Kaiser! salutes and sits

*Maximillian Mandorf's face grows red at the Kaiser's words.*

What exactly would you know of governing a country? Under your watch, half the Reich rebelled against us! You failed to resolve the Investiture Crisis and had to grovel before Gregory so that he would recind your excommunication! You have personally commanded in Italy for the entire duration of our war with Milan and Venice; yet where were you when the Viennese took Bologna?

After all the support I have given you over the years, you attack me here and now? Perhaps I have been wrong to believe that you were the victim in the conflict with Gregory. I see now that you have no loyalties to anyone but yourself! Indeed, it pleases me that you are uneasy at the prospect of the Chancellorship being held by a proper Christian who knows how to govern a realm. If you do not support me, then I must be doing something right!

My Kaiser, out of respect for the unwavering loyalty I have shown you over the past decades, I urge you to seek penitence for your sins. It is clear to me now that your soul has been corrupted. Take action immediately, lest you spend the rest of eternity in damnation!

*Mandorf points at the Kaiser and makes the sign of the cross.*

*The Kaiser's complexion gradually turns to that of Mandorf's during the Steward of Bavaria's most recent speech, and then some. It is evident that a nerve had been struck. The Kaiser starts bellowing in Mandorf's face.*

Kaiser Heinrich:

How DARE you suggest that I have not even the slightest of loyalties to this Reich, this Reich which I have poured my blood, sweat, heart, and tears into these past fifty years?! My words and my actions have said and implied over and over that my actions during the Investiture Crisis have been my greatest regret! Tell me, Mandorf, are you using that against me just to gain an edge or are you just that stupid?

You do not know how much I have put into this Reich. I have constantly written Chancellor Sigismund (who, by the way, controls all military operations) asking him to take a more aggressive stance, including my placement. Yet still I have not been in any battle, major or minor, since the capture of Genoa. This is also a regret.

All I've ever wanted was for the Reich to prosper! If you cannot see that then you are deluded! But things have not always gone the way I would have hoped. Mainly, you damned Dukes and Stewards for years now have been nattering away with requests and demands, all for your own house's concern of course, since apparently the needs of the Empire is second to those of its Houses!

My concern, Good Elector, is that one as malleable to outside influences as you would ascend to the office of Chancellor and allow our Reich to become weak! That... woman has sucked out your ambitions and your beliefs and instead made you a simple tool of the Papacy! Pope Gregory has already wrenched Rome from my grasp, I shudder to think what he would do should he take the rest of the Empire!

*The Kaiser sits down, shaking in a fury.*

Standing abruptly after the furious exchange between Mandorf and the Kaiser

You're calling me a coward Heinrich!!??

It is only your position as Kaiser of this realm that is preventing me from "calling you out" SIR!!

There is a perfectly good jousting range outside!! Maybe this should be settled outside like men?!

I demand an immediate retraction of your statement?!

The 2nd Elector of Austria remains standing staring intently at the Kaiser.

Jobst von Salva stands up, a look of disbelief on his face

THis is absurd, fighting within the Royal Imperial Diet. Aye, if I was you I would be ashame dof myself. Both the two Austrian ELectors and our Great Kaiser, can you please not fight, this diet is for wisdom knowledge and deicion making, not fury,anger and fights! If you have a conflict to resolve amognst eachother, please take it outside!!

With that Jobst von Salva sits down, absolutely stunned that people would fight in the diet, let alone the Kaiser fight

Turning slow towards von Salva

So...von Salva, are you a coward too??

Maybe you'd like your honor sullied in front of your peers would you?

Standing defiantly the 2nd Elector continues to look at the Kaiser

Otto stands to speak, his face has gone white since the Diet has descended into bedlam.

My Lords! We are doing the Venetians work for them if we continue to argue so! They will not have to lift a finger if we destroy ourselves!

Insults will get us nowhere. Have we forgotten who our true enemies are? The Venetians are oath-breakers, turncoats who have dared to besiege Vienna and have taken Bologna from us. They deserve no mercy or quarter! I say we drive them into the sea, until all they have left is the island of Crete.

Yes, our distribution of forces is not ideal at the moment, but the next Chancellor, whoever that may be, will have the resources to set that right. I understand the House of Austria's frustration, but I beg them for patience. Remember, Bavaria has lost Bologna, yet I am confident it will be returned to us. Victory is never easy, but if we go forward as one Empire, and not four Duchies, we will crush our enemies!

Otto sits, his hand rubbing his right temple.

Exactly, exactly what I was trying to say it! And elector of Austria, how did you get that i was a coward out of the few words I said? No, I shall not bite back as have others, and your harsh words do not harm me, but I warn of you, if you keep your sharp tounge you shall gain many enemies.

Fourth Elector of Swabia stands up seeking a compromise

Both the Kaiser and Mandorf brings up excellent points. Our western border is weak and undefended. Should France decide to attack us due to their war with our fellow Sicilians, we would easily lose significant territories before mustering the forces to stop their onslaught. The royal treasury though is not very full with us well below 10,000 florins for many years now. Such a large empire that we have surely ought to have a better financial status. As a compromise, I propose that an audit is to be done of all forces within the Empire. All cities are to be switched to militia if possible with the exception of border cities where extra troops shall be stationed. All mercenaries are to be disbanded and be replaced with normal troops unless they are pivotal to the war effort and the construction of agents to be stopped until we have much more gold at our hands.

I agree with the Fourth Elector of Swabia, we need to get an income to secure our nation. This can only be done by cutting down on mercenary costs, replacing troops to Free Upkeep militia units, and replacing some dwindeled units with Fresh men,

Ready to fight for the Riech!

Kaiser Heinrich:

I will have no more challenging people to duels in the Diet. To the second Elector of Austria, I was simply expressing my opinion. If you wish to call me out then by all means, do so.

I see little reason why we should stop taking the fight to the Venetians after Bologna is reclaimed. If we relent then they will simply gather strength and continue to ravage us on our own territory. If we continue to press the offensive then this scenario need not happen.

The Fourth Elector of Swabia presents an admirable plan.

A knight in full armour carrying Franconian colours on his tunic, enters the Diet.

"My Lords,i bring message from Duke of Franconia: There are no more Polish troops between Stettin and Magdeburg. Franconia claims the day and both i and Knight Gunther Von Kastillien are alive and well!"

The Messenger hands a scroll to Chancellor Sigismund,bearing the seal of Franconian Duke, bows and leaves the Diet.

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Prinz Heinrich: By God, Dietrich, you have put us to shame again! You faced terrible odds and, to be frank, I had some doubts about whether you were the same man that took Hamburg with such panache. But you have prevailed and never before has the label "heroic victory" been more deserved!

I urge the Chancellor - reinforce Dietrich with men from Hamburg and Stettin, then he may march on Magdeburg!

Dietrich Von Saxony enters the Diet again in full armour,steps on the speaker stand and hits heavily the table with his gauntlet.

"This situation is unacceptable! My good Franconian knights are fighting for their lives continuosly, not far from this place and dying and you are challenging each others here into duels. Maybe you should next time leave with me to the North East and see yourself what the situation is like there!
Im a man of peace,but wars end only by fighting. Im happy to see that our Prinz Henry has the clear vision to see what kind of threat we are facing,fighting the Polish with no support from Reich,outnumbered and outmatched in quality of our forces. Do you gentlemen understand that if my Franconians are defeated,there is nothing between Polish and this place, our capital.
Some of you are talking about consolidation of our lands here. While we fight the Polish armies,they build new armies of elite troops all the time,while we get no funds to even retrain our forces. There is a limit how much our brave men can do. And if we fail,the heart of the reich is for the Polish to take. Last year i send letters to Chancellor requesting to fight a small Polish army of unsupported infantry and then move either to Stettin or get considerable reinforcements from there. I did not get the promision to attack the Polish force and i was granted the considerable reinforcement of single unit of armoured spearmen. After that my army was left for the Polish to encircle and to destroy,whether it wasnt the unbelievable bravery of my Franconians. We would be all dead now. Support us honourable Diet,or atleast let us coordinate our efforts if we wont get any support from you."

Dietrich takes his seat looking furious.

Yes!... congratulations for the most heroic and honerable victory

now...

to Magdeburg!...

Pounds fist on table

We shouldnt need to Argue over Italy if the Poles are going to colapse... we should go after these back-stabing fools and destroy them once and for all... i have spoke for these attacks for awhile... now... the greatest victory agianst the poles is possible... as for troops and money... we should impliment the Fourth Elector of Swabia's plan... but instead of dispersing extra troops we need to send them to the north

so stop agruing fair Countrymen... and to arms... to Magdeburg...

paces in excitement

I am in agreement with the Fifth Elector of Austria. The Franconian frontier with Poland will remain difficult to defend so long as the Polish castle at Magdeburg restricts movements between the northern lands. The Franconians must be reinforced with sufficient regiments to allow them to both hold the border and besige this castle. If we fail to give Duke von Saxony the support he needs, we may find Polish outriders suggesting edicts at the next Diet session!

I see history is repeating itself.

Not long ago I said in this very building, that it is only the impressive feats of our generals are able to conduct in the North, East and West of our realm that save us from destruction.

Dietrich's unbelieveable victory shows once again the state of this Riech outside of Northern Italy.

Magdeburg must be taken, then we must make the necessary steps in the next Diet session to ensure these Heroic Victory's don't turn into Heroic funerals.

Three cheers for von Saxony!!

After a good night of sleep,Duke of Franconia enters the Diet. After getting updated of the last speeches from his clerks,he takes the stand.

"Mein Kaiser,Prinz,Chancellor,my fellow Dukes and Electors. I am most happy that the Diet is starting to understand the dire situation at the Polish front and would like to thank my Austrian and Bavarian friends for their kind words. While the current situation needs to be adressed soon and Magdeburg to be taken from the Polish hands. I would like to ask the general opinions of the Diet of our current campaign against the Polish. To me the most optional situation would be,since i know the stubborn mentality of the Polish, to get free hands campaigning against the Polish and only stop,if Pope decides to interfere. My good friend Leopold and i have agreed that a Franconian knight will be sent to lead Austrias forces in Prague. This would allow us to open a second front against the Polish in Breslau. Also if we succeed on taking Magdeburg. I would be more then happy to send one of my Counts to take Thorn castle on the Baltic coast. This would create a buffer zone between the heartland of reich and would also grant us most of the baltic trade. I would be most intrested to hear about your opinions on these suggestions."

Dietrich steps down and takes his place among the Franconians, he seems to be on lot better mood then yesterday.

A messenger wearing the household garb of Austria enters the Diet unfurls a message scroll and starts proclaiming its contents after clearing his throat:


Seventy-Eight brave Austrians lie slain on the banks of the Danube while 22 more of them were severly wounded! We mourn the loss of Johann von Kärnten, Eusebius Schultz, and Fredericus Schultz.
Three-Hundred florins of the Imperial treasury have been lost due to the death of Fifity-One Mercenary Spearmen!
They were send against an insignificant rebel force led by previous guildmaster Gustav von Holstein by the orders of Chancellor Sigismund!
Due to Duke Leopold of Austria's bravery and skill the enemy could be crushed and the loss of more Austrian lives be prevented. The ringleaders of the rebellion were flogged to death while the combattants were released.
Duke Leopold is on his way back to Vienna, awaiting another siege by the Venetian forces under Councillor Bartholomeo advancing unhindered from the South!

Dietrich Von Saxony:

"Congratulations to Duke Leopold on his victory against the rebel scum! I hope that Duke of Austria will be reinforced so he can go meet the bloody Venetians and bring the war to their lands. About rebels further. Maybe it would be time for our Bavarian Steward to destroy the rebels around Nuremberg?"

Duke Von Saxony sits back on his seat.

Rebels are priority in my books, not only are they enemys, they are of the same blood, :inquisitive:

The House of Austria is showing some success, I see us becoming a stronger house overall

I have heard reports that Prinz Henry has retaken Bologna, without even the use of siege equipment! The House of Bavaria is in his debt for returning our lands to us.

stands

yes... more victorys... vercily fought all, congraglations

Quote:

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I would be most intrested to hear about your opinions on these suggestions

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I full heartedly agree with an attack on Poland... they are the weaker of the two forces gathered agianst us... but if ignored can become destructive... a buffer zone in the Baltice states would be very preferable... and to pursue this goal is backed by me in everyway...

but in my personal opinion it can be pursed to destruction... it would add thousands of pounds of gold to the treasury... and would allow us to focus on the backstabing Italians...

sits... says barely adible...
stupid cursed Poles... scum of the Earth all...

Duke of Franconia enters the Diet and adresses Chancellor Sigismund:

"Mein Chancellor, did you not get my letter again? I have got the latest reports from the front and nothing i suggested have been done. Jonas Von Mahren is still sitting inside Stettin,while i promised Duke Leopold to move him into Prague. Also there is no indication about Gunther Von Kastillien moving into Stettin nor Count Von Hamburg joining my forces. Neither there are no word of the spearmen or archers i asked for that are available in my castles, Hamburg and Stettin. Only forces that are aproaching my army are Teutonic knights that has been dispatched from here. As we can both see Magdeburg is mainly garrisoned by infantry. So is our strategy to fight missile cavalry with spearmen on open fields and take walls of the cities with mounted knights? Other then that i would like to congratulate Prinz Henry for taking back Bologna,which is rightfully ours, your cunning tactics show your great tactical skills once more."

Dietrich Von Saxony sits down and starts dictating a letter to Duke Leopold of Austria.

Chancellor Sigismund der Brav stands up and frowns at Dietrich.

Duke Dietrich, I have read your letters. My term is not up yet, and no time has passed since I received your letters and the present. Patience must be required, as I cannot do everything at once. Also, I do not think that it is my duty to listen to all that you say, however, I shall do what you humbly request. My position is not an easy on, however, and I must make sure that we do not run out of florins.

Chancellor Sigismund returns to his seat.

Dietrich Von Saxony:

"Well Mein Chancellor. In that case, i thank you. Altough the troops i asked are already trained,so they shouldnt drain the coffers of the Reich,instead i believe they should be put to work they are payed for."

Dietrich sits back on his place.

Otto von Kassel can be seen poring over newly arrived reports and maps. He stands and addresses the Diet.

Prinz Henry, you have my deepest gratitude for restoring Bolgona to the Reich and Bavaria. Your timing and use of deception in the battle was excellent. I am envious of your ability to seize settlements with such little loss to your soldiers.

Duke Leopold has also distinguished himself. His ability to win victory after victory with only militia and mercenaries is a testament to his skills as a general. I know he has been frustrated with the constant assaults on Vienna, but these have served to bleed the Venetians dry. Their army is a shell of its former self.

Despite some predictions of doom in the Diet, which I was a party to I admit, the situation in Italy is stabilizing thanks to Chancellor Sigismund. Milan is now secure, Bologna is recaptured, and even now my army is readying to besiege Venice itself. We will have our vengeance against those traitorous vipers my lords!

Yet Italy is not fully stable yet. The Milanese still have a large army near Florence, our troops in Italy outnumber them, but are dispersed. I will not sleep well until we have removed them completely from the mainland.

With the influx of mercenaries into our forces, the coffers of the Reich are nearly empty. We need to review what we are taking in for taxes from each city, and increase it if we can. Now that the city of Milan, for example, has a proper garrison, the Kaiser rules there no less, I'm sure we can squeeze a few more florins out of them. If they balk, tell them I will return to govern them, that should motivate them.

Also, the missionary work of Cardinals Peter Scherer and Charles Otterbach has gone remarkably well in Stettin. Perhaps it is time we move them to another area to spread the word of God. Dangerous heresies have grown in the Metz region, perhaps we should send them there. Another possibility is the Thorn region. I'm sure missionary work there among the pagans will bring them even higher in the College of Cardinals. Even now, Cardinal Scherer is one of the preferati.

I wish Duke Dietrich and his Franconians continued good fortune against Poland. I would recommend that after seizing Magdeburg and possibly Breslau we wage a defensive war. With those two provinces in our possession we would have a defensible border and we would not risk Papal ire. Hildebrand seems to love the Poles more than us.

My lords.

Otto sits and continues to review incoming reports.

5th elector of Bavaria

Thank you Prince you are true conquerer and a great man for restoring back our province.

5th elector of Swabia
Well done my fellow generals, good work in removing the foreign scum off our lands and driving them home to their womenfolk.

I shall propose that each region should have at least their own head priest to oversee matters in an effort to stem the heresy that is spreading and restore order. Cardinal Sherer should be tasked root out the heretics that are more elusive and hopefully earn himself more respect in the college that way for me may need a pope of our own soon.

I also suggest that we cut the garrisons of the heartland and move them to the fronts where they are needed in numbers large enough to reinforce our striking forces yet small enough to not entice the populace of the Reich to riot when we increase the taxes to fund our multi-front engagements. As long as we advance our fronts, we should not need to worry about too many soldiers feasting our coffers empty in the core of the Reich.

and with a last glace at the gathered, the 5th elector returns to his seat

4th Elector of Swabia

Fellow Elector, while it is necessary to combat the heresy that is among our lands for fear of church inquistors investigating the piety of our people, our empire does not have enough funds to support a larger clergy. In my earlier talks, I called for an audit of our forces seeing as how we have such a small treasury compared to nations of significantly lower power. Although I do not mean disrespect to the clergy, they are not known for their frugailty regarding the funds of our empire...

Sigismund der Brav stands up and addresses the Diet.

Mein electors, we are constantly short of men everywhere. Italy has finally been restored, but even now it is far from secure. I suggest that we send a general from each Duchy to take the offensive while keeping the other generals at home and on the Reich's frontiers.

Sigismund resumes his seat.

If this was to happen Chancellor Sigismund, I prpose to lead a army for the Duchy of Swabia, as one of the Generals.

now to more important matters at hand,

I congratulate all victories, especially the Victorious siege of Bologona, and the Heroic Victory aganst the Polish. These victories are those which save and honour a nation, I thank those gentlemen who won those battles.

Also, we now have a more firm grip on Italy, with Venice,Milan and the Pope all under control, and Sicily a ally, so Italy seems no threat. For now. The Polish are weak and folish, and very poor. But what if we tackle France, or Denmark. I would sugest Denmark.

Think of it, why not expand north or west? Denmark is a rich place, poor armies, there land fertile. France is good, a foothold on SPain and England.

So?

I would not underestimate the Polish, Elector von Salva. Their horse archers are most vexing. Despite our victories, our armies in the east are still relatively small. I'm sure the Poles have a surprise or two left in them.

As for your call of declaring war on Denmark or France, I believe we have enough enemies for now. We have deeply wounded both Milan and Venice, but a wounded animal, when cornered, is at its most dangerous. We should administer the coup de grace to the Lombard League before we consider further expansion.

Remember, we had Milan nearly beaten until Venice entered the war. I would not like to repeat that with France or the Danes.

Well we are to be warned, eventually one of them will attack, it is a fate in evitable.

And as for in italy, yes sure, when we had cornered Milan, Venice attacked, but now we have them both cornered, who could stop us destroying them now? unless another superpwer comes to italy, we basivlly have half of it to us, the other half to Sicily. Right now it is not a major front.

yes sure the poles have a few good Horse Archers, but we have plenty of good generals and soldiers!

If no one wishes to attack France or Denmark, then we should start to attack Polish cities.

They always attack us, our cities and armies, so why not we go in and take there cities?

Prinz Henry: I am declaring the Fifth Diet open for the proposal of edicts and the submission of election manifestoes for candidates for the post of Chancellor. The deadline is typically three days (in this case, 8am Saturday UK time), although I have to confirm this with my father.

Fifth elector of Swabia

I propose following edicts my fellow comrades in arms:

5.1 We should seek allies in England, Scotland and Russia. This will force our enemies to a two front war if they dare attack us or our ally, especially as we currently do not share borders with these nations. At the same time, the alliances should only be decided if they shall pay us tribute for it, for we are the more superior nation. (aim for barely accepted)

5.2 We need to move out all superfluous troops out from the heartland and leave just enough there to keep public order. These troops should be used to reinforce our borders and fronts.

5.3 The elimination of Milan

5.4 Driving Venice back to at least Ragusa, leaving them with this region and Iraklion at the most

5.5 Attempt to make the Poles our vassals (without spending more than map info and 5000 florins)

5.6 Attempt to make Milan our vassals (without spending more than map info and 5000 florins)

5.7 The training of additional clergy to root out heresy and allow more of our cardinals into the college.

5.8 Training of at least 2 good assassins to take care of high profile political targets

Duke of Franconia stands up and starts reading from a scroll:

"Mein Kaiser,Prinz,Dukes and fellow Electors. Since the unfortunate War with Poland touches Franconia the most. It is my duty as Duke of Franconia to present you with the following:

Edict 5.9 Reich will start offensive against Poland by taking Magdeburg and continuing the offensive untill either Poland sues for peace or Papal warning of excommunication is given.

This edict would allow us to have an flexible strategy that we could chance depending on the situation on the front.
Another matter i have been thinking would be:

Edict 5.10 Holy Roman Empire suggests an alliance to Hungary.

As Hungary is situated between our enemies Poland and Venice.By securing an alliance we should be able to eliminate a possible threat to our flank,while our forces are concentrated against the Polish and Venetians.

Dietrich Von Saxony takes his place among the Franconians

Prinz Henry: Apologies, Electors, I must suspend this session of the Diet. The Chancellor has indicated that there have been surprising developments. We need to wait to learn what they are.

5.11 We .... what? suspended? sighs and takes a seat

Dietrich Von Saxony:

"May we hear what these suprising events are? Or should we wait for Chancellor Sigismund to give his report to us?"

Dietrich takes his seat,wondering what has happened.

The 6th Elector of Bavaria:

Stands up, still deeply engaged in the intelegence report he had in his hand, and scattered across half his desk, he wanted to read that report, dated as it was, all night, anything to keep from speaking, but it was his turn to speak. This was going to be his first time speaking in the Diet, adressing nobility, many he only knew from royal proclemations(sp) announcing the glorious victories they have won for the Riech. He was Nervous, and is showed, 'You know you've done your homework' he told himself, 'You'll be fine.' And with that he started.*

Honourable Swabian elector, I must say that is an expensive set of edicts you have proposed, and 5.3 and 5.6 are in conflict with each other.

But there is some merit there, 5.1 for example, England and Russia would both valuable allies but I caution that English relations should take priority over Scottish interests, and forcing payment upon these newfound friends would surely result in failed negotiations (sp).


Proposed edict 5.2 flies directly in the face of Otto von Kassel's call for an adjustment of our tax policy. Both sides of the arguement posses merit, and perhaps then cities should only be garrisoned with free troops, and castles only with peasents?

I love the Idea behind edict 5.3, but Venice has no papal protection, Milan does...

I second 5.4, and I second 5.7. We eill need aditional Clergy as we approach the Orthodox and Hertic lands of the east and north.

5.5 and 5.6 are preposterous, 5000 Florins? for a bunch of polish and milanese slaves? I think not.

as for 5.8, well...I'm sure some supprt could be found if Pope Gregory was one of those, how did you put it? "high profile political targets", especially if we had Cardinals in place to realign the politics of the papcy.

Dietrich Von Saxony, I like the flexibility of 5.9 and the logic of 5.10, I second edict 5.9 and 5.10.

At this time I will wait to propose edicts till the latest intelegence is in.

*The young Bavarian elector sits down, looking obviously relieved, he takes a long drink of his ale and waits for a response.*

Prinz Henry: Now that we have the Chancellor's final report, I am re-opening the Fifth Diet. Edicts proposed for this session still stand, and I will also count any seconding that has been done so far.

I await my father's confirmation, but I am proposing we debate for three days (until Saturday 8am) but then extend the voting period to 48 hours to accommodate my father and the ex-Chancellor.

Sigismund der Brav stands up and faces the Diet:

Mein electors, ever since I was born I have wanted to fight the French. They are noble in battle, but their kings are tyrannts. They have supressed the dignity of every Frank and now seek to push Swabians under their yoke. I urge you to send me against them with all haste.

I propose Edict 5.11:

Sigismund der Brav is to be sent against the French armies invading Burgundy. After that he shall proceed to conquer France until a Papal warning is given. Sigismund alone shall be sent against the French, as the other generals are needed in Italy and Poland.

I don't intend to steal glory, but I have the best interests of the Reich at heart.

At any moment, the Danes could turn against us. In that case, the Franconians would be unable to assist Swabia.

As for Swabia itself, Prinz Henry could organise the defence while I take the fight to the enemy.

Sigismund resumes his seat.

Dietrich Von Saxony:

"I thank Count Sigismund for his services to the Reich as the Chancellor and for reporting us about the latest developments. While it seems that the situation in the South is turning more favourable to us. I cant see that the latest report chances anything in the North East,so my suggestions for Edicts 5.9 and 5.10 will stand. So now that Sigismund has officially stepped down, who will run for the Chancellor? I have personally decided that i cant regrettably commit myself for that position and think it will be wiser for me to commit my energy on defeating the Poles."

Dietrich sits down and waits for the others to address the Diet.

Prinz Henry: The Chancellor is to be congratulated on leading us through such... interesting ... times. His term in office will be remembered for driving the Milanese from mainland Europe and suckering the Venetians into excommunicating themselves.

However, I find myself in some disagreement with his proposed response to the French incursions (OOC: are we at war yet?). I had attempted to discuss this in private amongst fellow Swabians, but it properly concerns all Germans and as the Chancellor has already proposed one response in 5.11, I believe I should also proffer my alternative for consideration.

I salute Sigismund for his eagerness to come to grips with French - such bravery is what we have come to expect from him. However, I wonder if the Diet would consider an alternative, more elliptical response to the French? Specifically, I propose that we adopt the same maneouvre with them as we followed successfully with Venice at the last mid-term. That is to say, I propose:

Edict 5.12: In view of the French threat, all Swabian generals are to return to defend the western front against France. The Empire is to adopt a defensive posture in the west in an attempt to lead to the excommunication of France. When France is excommunicated, the posture is to switch to an offensive one - aiming at Rheims and then Paris.

In the long run, I believe my edict will lead to more progress being made against France than if we simply run at them bull headed. The latter approach will surely lead to a Papal warning after at best one or two French settlements have fallen. By contrast, an initial defensive stance may allow us to conquer with impunity in the future.

Dietrich Von Saxony:

"While i admire the chivalry and bravery,that Count der Stoltze shows with his plan and im sure that he is only thinking of the best of the Reich. I must express that Prinz Henry is more in the same line of thinking as i am. Therefore i will second Edict 5.12."

Dietrich sits back on his seat taking another sip from his glass of red wine.

I propose edict 5.13: All Milanese forces remaining in Italy are to be destroyed.

It is past time we remove this thorn from our side my lords. We must relieve Florence and drive the Milanese back to Corsica and Sardinia. While it would pain me to do it, as my army is at Venice's doorstep, (OOC:On the bridge but not sieging yet), I volunteer to lead my forces south and engage the scum. Prinz Henry's army is closer, but I would understand if he wishes to return to Swabia. The edict does not specify a Commander so the next Chancellor can have some leeway in how to destroy the Milanese.

I will second edicts 5.3, 5.7, 5.9, 5.10 and 5.12. Milan must be utterly destroyed. This will help us stabilize the Italian front so we can shift some forces to the east or west. We need to take Breslau and Magdeburg so that we can have a defensible border with Poland. Finally, we are not at war with France, yet, but we should take precautions in case the worst happens.

Pursuing an alliance with England or Scotland is wise, but not both of them. They share one island, they will most likely be at war at some point, and I would not have the Reich forsake one of the alliances to enforce the other. I suggest we seek an alliance with England, they do border France. The Alliance with Russia is also an intiriguing idea.

As for Venice, I believe they also possess Durazzo on the mainland. We should drive them into the sea, leaving them only Crete. I will support 5.4 if the language is changed to reflect that.

Prinz Henry: Nothing would give me greater pleasure, Count Otto, than to destroy the Milanese menacing Florence. But I wonder are they protected by a Papal order that we not attack them? Perhaps the order does not cover engaging them on our land or perhaps it has lapsed?

They are excommunicated mein Prinz, there is nothing to hold us back from crushing them!

Dietrich Von Saxony:

"Hear,Hear! Otto Von Kassel speaks the words of wisdom. Now that Pope doesnt protect the Milanese anymore,they should be driven to the Sea. Therefore i second Edict 5.13.

5th Swabia

I hereby amend edict 5.1 to no longer include Scotland as a potential ally.

I would add instead that 5.14 If England does not accept an Alliance on reasonable terms that favor us, we ally with Scotland instead, of course only if they are more reasonable than the English.

I shall also say in my defense, that while edicts 5.5 and 5.6 may seem horridly expensive and senseless in the short term, but over time, vassals will pay large amounts of tribute to us regularly besides being a buffer zone against bordering hostile nations. We can also freely move through these lands without fear for aggression and retreat to reform when necessary without needing to worry about covering the retreat.

I realize however that the Milanese are on their knees and should be hanged, quartered and burned for betraying us to set an example. I thus withdraw edict 5.5 and second edict 5.13 which well complements my edict 5.3

Lastly, I wish to thank my fellow electors for seconding some of my motions and will hereby also second edict 5.12

Excellent, given the new phrasing, I will second 5.1 and 5.14