I'm now even more glad that I pushed for the Tavern to be a "neutral" place owned by a "neutral" party. ^_^
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I'm now even more glad that I pushed for the Tavern to be a "neutral" place owned by a "neutral" party. ^_^
There's a rather significant announcement in the Diet. Read it before clicking the spoiler.
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Ha, appears I didn't have to wait too long for the answer... yeep.Quote:
There's a rather significant announcement in the Diet.
question in spoiler:
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Sorry chaps I'm heading back to Switzerland from China and wont be back until Tuesday afternoon Swiss time.
Econ,
Pull everyone out of Bucharest and get them back to Bran. It can blow.
Karl Zirn will take over the AHA command...sorry Roadkill, Northnovas has seniority.
I'm also not going to baby sit Krakow for too long.
I'll be posting back IC in about 26 hours.
Cecil...you can't really resign...although you have...it would have been nice to have you ask first. :beam:
Cecil has his own subplot going and the resignation is in-line with that. He consulted with econ21 and I first.
You can't "resign" but you can refuse to fight battles or just lose battles on purpose. Then your Duke would be better off replacing you. So it is effectively resigning even though its not in the charter. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
You forget, the Charter rules don't apply at this time if econ21 and I say they don't.
True but I was talking more in the abstract about general resignations and how they relate to written law. :beam:
*edited due to fear that sarcasm may yet again fail to tranfer effectively over the text medium*
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secret prince conversation enclosed:
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Seems odd that we're actually conscripted into command rather than appointed, but oh well. I'm sorry I didn't PM you first, but I like to make things surprising.Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
True, it is weird that we are conscripted, but most people love having an army command because they get to fight battles and develop their avatars with battle traits and retinue. Jan has learned the hard way what great lengths some people will go through to make sure they can lead an army.
Ah the politics of assigning army commanders...
^_^
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I still think of some players in their first avatar of the game. I still think of GH as Heinrich. No matter what he is raving about in the Diet post.
Well TC seems to be playing a very different character than Mandorf. But yeah, I've been reading a lot of the old threads lately and I've noticed some players basically play their old avatar but just version 2.0. Which is cool. Sometimes you get to where you like playing a certain type of character. I still am up in the air on how I'll play my next one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northnovas
True, but Mandorf himself was really a Fire-and-Brimstone version of my main WOTS character. Substitute hatred of Gauls for religious fervor and you've got Augustus Verginius.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Ah but I wasn't around for WoTS. I read a little bit but never really went through all of the old threads.
Guilty. I tried to make Matthias distinct, but it ain't working. Of course Otto changed over his lifetime, so there's still time for Matthias to distinguish himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
I'll have to put some effort into that, but I do have a preferred role-playing style so it'll be difficult.
I'm worried about that too. I'm afraid that if I want to be different, I'll have to be really different. Maybe my next avatar will have some cool traits and I can build off of that.
Urrrgggh I wish Matthias was in the Diet, I stormed out to soon. Urge to pontificate rising!
haha peter is a bit different from ehrhart of maximillian
you could just have him come back. no one really keeps track of the all of the storming out anyways. people storm out, storm back in, then storm out again. ^_^Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
I consciously try to play all of my characters differently, but it turns out weird. Heinrich was great, obviously. Conrad was always a bit boring and I disposed of him when his storylines ran out. Jens would have been fun but he to die and all.
I've lost so much control over Dietrich it's scary. He has turned out nothing like the way I planned to evolve him. :hide:
Yeah I know, but there's a reason, not apparent yet, why Matthias has to stay in Outremer. I just wish I hadn't left so soon.
I think I know what you mean. The events shape us as much as we try to shape the events. You try to make your character go a certain way but you try to roll with what comes at him. I've had to steer Jan through a few twists and turns but he has basically kept the same core value system that I set him up with.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
yeah, theres no way peter can flip flop now.
ehrhart was noble yet young.
maximillian was a cocky merchant who wanted to invade spain.
arg, they seem to block the org at school (but let porn through, figure that one out) so I haven't been keeping up with the stories thread much, things seem to move so fast lately.
I didn't RP Gerhard much, when he was Duke it was hard to RP his 0 piety (being anti-outremer was a bad political move), I tried to have it so he at least respected the political importance of the church, even if he thought the teaching were rubbish. With Fredericus I have a little piety, but still am dominated by loyalty.
hey overknight, are u interested in joining the dark side? mwahahaha
It's not the dark side, Matthias is a righteous man, at least in his own mind. :laugh4:
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Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921
^_^
View the org using anonymouse then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuperman
Now that Kaiser Siegfried is dead, I figure it's safe to ask this. What happened to Ituralde? Did he leave the game? Is he taking an extended leave of abscence due to real-life limitations? Is he coming back soon? It seems clear now that Siegfried was meant to die from the beginning of this "20 year event" so Econ has basically been running him as an NPC with a script set up with Ituralde. The death of Siegfried has made for a great story but I am kind of surprised because of the relatively young age of the avatar and the utility of Princess agents that are now lost.
This is all just for curiousity's sake and I figure it's safe now since it won't affect the current plots. ^_^
Psssst he was supposed to be brought back using necromancy and continue ruling. Now you spoiled it! :tongue2:
Since econ has not yet released the savegame, I wondered if the avatar was really dead. But, since Econ made that statement about a new heir, I figured the avatar was gone and it would be safe to assume so.Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
But if I did spoil a super-cool necromancy sub-plot, then I apologize. :bow:
Ituralde is on a 3 month vacation in New Zealand w/o access to the internet and left several weeks ago. He has formally withdrawn from KOTR. He worked on the plot with econ21 and I and wrote Siegfried's various letters/speeches for econ21 to post before he left. Siegfried died largely because Ituralde was going to have to withdraw from the game anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Phew, ok back.
24 hour in a plane is not a recommended idea guys.
Seems things are going well...:inquisitive:
Girlfriends seem to be bad for the game, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Well in my opinion, you guys took the unfortunate situation of Ituralde having to leave the game, and made a cool story out of it. Kudos. :2thumbsup:
Maybe we'll see Ituralde some day down the road. It was fun to play with him. :yes:
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Mine has been nothing but supportive with my hobby. I am truly blessed... ^_^Quote:
Originally Posted by FH
Yes, I fully expect him to return to KOTR or whatever successor game we are playing when he returns.
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Originally Posted by Privateerkev
Why isn't she replacing Larisa then? :whip: :wink2:
My GF has zero interest in this game. She doesn't even want to hear anything about it. I said she was supportive, not interested. But she is quite understanding of me spending copious amounts of time on this forum hitting the refresh button. ^_^Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
Sorry I misled people about Ituralde - it's just I thought players would respond more in character (and also be more surprised) if they thought that Siegfried was only absent for a time and would be making a reappearance.
Ituradle had been planning to kill off his character some time ago when he realised he would be travelling and unable to function as Emperor. He hoped to have a term as Chancellor when he could work the re-unification story. But things got delayed so his departure ended up coinciding with the cataclysm TinCow had proposed. It seemed natural to combine the two, as the sudden death of an Emperor is a plausible cause of upheaval. Speaking of which... the annual report for 1308 will be up soon.
Waiting for 1308 bears an unfortunate resemblance to waiting for semester grades... if only I had studied harder! :tongue:
I know it's role playing and all...
but...
this deal is just bonkers. Do the Byzantine own thermo nuclear devices or something?
Yup. You should see the size of Theodora's warheads... :eeeek:
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Originally Posted by TinCow
Well if that is the case..."I'm goin' in boys, don't try and stop me!!" :charge:
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The report on 1308 is up (I realised I mislabelled the year on the early two reports).
We are now in 1310 in game. I will load up the save and see if there are any battles. I won't act on the VH taxes as the poll on governor responses has another 24 hours or so to run.
remind Arnold that the woman is grieving. try to be gentle...Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
Of course something tells me she would eat Arnold for breakfast... o_O
I've made most of the moves for 1310.
This is Bavaria's year - there are two offensive battles:
Friedrich Karolinger (Warmaster Horus)
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Fredericus Erlach (Stuperman)
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There may be a defensive battle this turn, so please complete the above battles within 24 hours.
The save is here:
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/1310-1.zip
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A good reason to become a Republic. :laugh4:
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I have the save. I'll try and get the inquisitor.
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Save: http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/1310-2.zip
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http://img36.picoodle.com/img/img36/...2m_e696673.jpg
Prisoners released.
edit, like 3 or 4: Inquisitor gotten.
Just a comment about Peter as Prinz: we will roll with the punches and come up with an in game rationalisation of this (Gibson and I have one in mind already). But in the story he is not Prinz yet. Historically, the HRE Kaiser was elected. In our alternate history, the next Kaiser is selected by the present one (ie the the player controlling the Kaiser has to come up with a cover for the AIs bizarre picks).
Also - on the present saves and future ones, people are free to take a look, then PM me with instructions with what they want their characters to do or where they want them to go next turn. Players may want to be thinking 4-5 turns ahead: where they want to be when all hell breaks loose. In the absence of instructions, I just move them where I think it would be in character for them to go. I don't have time to liaise with everyone over their moves, but I will try to accommodate any requests I receive.
I'll wait for the Siege Engines, if that's no problem. It's just... Catapults and me... We don't mix too often.
That's easy, we fake some elections when Elberhard dies (would Peter still be alive at that point), and we simply make sure Peter gets the position.Quote:
Historically, the HRE Kaiser was elected. In our alternate history, the next Kaiser is selected by the present one (ie the the player controlling the Kaiser has to come up with a cover for the AIs bizarre picks).
In our world the Kaiser is not and never has been elected. He's chosen by his predecessor.
Not if the Kaiser chooses no Heir
Siegfried was in a way elected.
I've pressed end turn for 1310 and there were no defensive battles. I am wondering about accelerating things and moving on to 1312 tonight. Any objections?
This would be a day faster than the 1 turn/2 days pace I planned, but I will be unable to get to a computer that can play M2TW on Friday and Saturday, so it should balance out.
It's fine with me. Regarding the unusual choice of heir, I would wait until the catastrophe is over before having that become official. I'm sure we can come up with some reason for it by that time.
I'll have a look on Hans' moves before you end turn. Give me a few hours to get back though.
As for heirs, we dont have to go with the game decision as pointed out during the succession debate. Its very simple to make us choose our heirs and have them get the appropriate traits. The only limitation really is diplomatic marriage, princess spawning and bodyguard size.
Like I said during the succession dispute, I like that we still go by the game's crazy heir mechanics. It adds an element of surprise to the game. Plus it gives the opportunity for a "rags to riches" type story. A lot of us will not have our avatars reach high office. The semi-random heir machine allows us to have the hope that our lowly count will one day become Kaiser. Otherwise it will just go to the person with the most political connections. The game picking Jobst, Siegfried, and now Peter has added something to the game in my opinion. :yes:
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and I know I omitted Elberhard but he is a fairly "logical" choice for the game to make in my opinion.
Agreed, I very much like the random wild choices precisely because it puts everyone on an equal footing, at least for that particular aspect of the game. Obviously, political savvy is highly meaningful here, but perhaps it should not rule everything.
Just thought I'd say, this catastrophe scenario has brought out some great RP in the stories and the Diet. It's fun every day to wake up and check on what the latest disaster is, but even more fun to watch for the reactions and interactions.
Thanks for the great reading.
We haven't even got to the real catastrophe event(s) of 1320-1340.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tamur
pffft. tancred? he works for me!
Now that I can actually see the game it seems to be a bit of a dogs breakfast :beam:
What's Ehrhart Ruppel doing traipsing around Austria?
Plus Peter is still married to a large army and the Siegfried is alive....oh my god!! :laugh4:
I think you are looking at an old save.Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
Try the one Stuperman posted earlier on this page:
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/1310-2.zip
None of what you said is true about that save. ... Apart from the dog's breakfast part.
Hey everyone, I have a bit of a problem for some reason my MTW 2 has stopped working..... So yah... So if I get engaged in battle, get someone else to fight it, or just autoresolve it. If you want to help solve the problem I posted a thread in the MTW 2 section.
True, but the scripted plotline is entirely for the 1300-1320 period. 1320-1340 will be the choose-your-own-adventure style of game and the plot will evolve almost 100% based on what the players decide to do. It will be interesting, but in a different way. I have no major 'events' planned for the 1320-1340 period, because doing so would require me to know exactly what was going to happen. Since it's impossible to predict what choices 15+ people are going to make, I am going to be creating the events on the fly instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northnovas
I like how it's going. There's a lot Peter has yet to do.
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