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Hey, something funny happened.
Remember when I said, in response to your graphics card melting,
Remember when I said?Quote:
"That is funny. (joke)
So, melted eh?
This kinda stuff always seems to happen, doesn't it? Karma's gonna get me next and fry my compu-"
I usually just lurk and read the AAR's, but had to say this is brilliant! Really good writing and one of my favourite factions :2thumbsup: The last battle against the Romans was indeed epic. Nice to see the Romans training Roman troops for a change.
Again, thanks to everyone who is commenting...
I've been busy lately and the next chapter has stalled half way. Right now, I'm defragmenting that computer and it has been at it for about 16 hours...
Your computer melted as well, Mordrorru?
I hope you don't use the windows-default-defrag, because you could have that running for three days without coming even near to an end.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
Chapter 31 : Loose Ends on the Western Front
The Romani War (Part IX)
Returning from being crowned Basileus of Arche Makedonia, Aristotelis sets up once more in Syria. Antiocheia, the capital of the region had been named for Antiochos of the Arche Seleukeia. With the decline of Arche Seleukeia, it is beginning to seem as though Seleukos, Antiochos, and their dynasty will become just historical footnote, hardly worth mention. Seeing as they are unworthy of such a great city, in a foreign nation, with their name, Aristotelis decides to rename the city. He chooses to renames the city after the man who liberated it years earlier and built it up to its present state. With orders from Aristotelis, the capital of Syria is renamed and refounded as the city Demetreia.
In Gaul, Neokles, son of Aristotelis and heir to the throne, besieges the city of Tolosa, where the last Romani in Gaul hide:
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The phalangitai hold their ground while the Basilikon Agema move forward to break down the walls:
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The gate is easily broken and the Hypaspitai rush in to meet the Hellenes defending the walls:
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After breaking another hole through the wall, the rest of the Basilikon Agema rush in and surround the Hellenes:
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The Hellenes quickly fall and Makedones assume control of the city. Hiding near the palace, however, the Romani defenders refuse to surrender. Slowly marching the phalangitai into the town, Neokles takes his time and prepares to attack the city center from multiple sides. As the phalangitai possition themselves to assualt the Romani, the Romani general gives one final charge and attacks the Pezhetairoi:
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The Romani get bogged down and the Neokles has enough time to move his men to surround them. Attacking from the rear, the Basilikon Agema finish off the last of them:
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With that, Neokles takes the Gallic city of Tolosa and the Romani port of Narbo, as well as deprive the Romani of their last foreign territory:
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Gathering locals for questioning, Neokles learns that the Gallic people of the region, known as the Nektosages, had participated in the Gallic raid of Makedonia and Hellas. Afterwards they had gathered treasures and brought them home with them, where some of that treasure had been hidden at the bottom of a lake. Years later, the mercenaries of Pyrrhos of Epieros had also come to this region. They too had hidden gold in the lake, and amoungst that gold was the treasures they had looted from the tombs at Aigai. Neokles quickly makes plans to excavate a canal to empty the lake.
With the fall of the Romani in Gaul, and with a great Makedonike army in the vicinity, the Hellenic trade city of Emporion leaves the Iberian confederation and joins the Arche Makedonia. [I paid 14000 for it.] With new territories in southern Gaul and northern Iberia, Neokles considers whether to pull out of the area as he had planned or to take this chance to open a new front with Kart-Hadast. For now, the regions are not consider part of the Arche.
Pyrrhos of Makedonia, still stricken with sadness, has yet to besiege the ill defended city of Arpi. With is delay, the Romani gather another small legion and attack once more. This time the Romani devide their forces and attack from all sides:
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Placing his phalangitai along a road to counter the bulk of the Romani forces, Pyrrhos has his Illyrian cavalry move to counter those attacking from th rear:
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Purposly allowing his left flank to look weak, Pyrrhos hides his Samnites and Gauls just over a hill to suprise anyone who takes the bait of the weak flank:
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The Illyrians repeatingly charge the Romani approaching from the rear, but the Romani hold their ground. The Romani stand no chance of success against the Illyrians, but they stall the cavalry long enough for the other Romani to engage the Makedonike army without having to worry about cavalry support:
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On the left flank, the Romani take the bait and attack. Quickly, the Samnites and Gauls counter:
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One group of Romani attack the flank, but the main forces of the Romani attack the center of the line:
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After finally defeating the Romani to the rear, the Illyrians rush in and releave the left flank. With the left flank secured, the main battle line moves to surround the Roman Consul:
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The Illyrians chase the fleeing Romani, but the Samnites and Gauls are forced to confront those Romani which manage to regroup:
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The Makedonike Pezhetairoi manage to completely surround Consul Titus Cornelius Scipio, but he opts to avoid conflict and stands his cavalry in the center of the square. The Pezhetairoi hold their ground, but one officer moves forward to challenge the Roman Consul:
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[The Consul died seconds after I took this picture.]
The Makedonike officer somehow manages to kill the Consul and as he falls to the ground the entire Makedonike army charges in to eliminate the last of his bodyguards:
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Some of the Romani flee to Capua, but most fall dead. With the victory, Pyrrhos takes the city of Arpi:
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The goal of Arche Makedonia, since the time of Alkyoneus, has been to establish a northern border along the Istros [River Danube]. Alkyoneus and Perseus had negotiated for much of the territory and Nepos had conquered Pannonia. Now, Herakontides, cousin to Pyrrhos, leads the attack along the Istros. Having conquered the fortress of Iuvavoaeta years earlier, Herakontides heads west to take the fort-city of Veldideno, near the source of the Istros. With the conquest of this region, Arche Makedonia will control all territories south of the Istros, from its source to the Pontos Euxinos.
With an army of local Celtic mercenaries, Herakontides attacks the city quickly, before reinforcements can arrived from their allies, the Boii:
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With a bribe to some locals, the gates are left open. Charging in, the mercenaries attack the local garrison troops, who had been taught to fight in the Makedonike style:
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The defenders manage to push the bulk of the mercenary force back to the gate, but it is too late, as they are already surrounded. The men attacking from behind them wear them down and they break:
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Taking the walls, the mercenaries march on the city center. On their way in, they are confronted by the defending cavalry and garrison captain:
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Defending the rear, Herakontides' mercenary Celtic phalangitai are confronted by a unit of defending phalangitai:
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The defenders are more experienced and have the upper hand, but when attacked from two sides the defenders loose their advantage:
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As the phalangitai wipe out the forces attacking the rear, the bulk of the mercenary force fights off the last wave of enemies before the city center:
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The mercenaries line up and rest just out of the range of those in the city center. They hardly get any rest, though, as the defender charge out to confront them. The mercenaries throw their remaining javelin and brace for the fight:
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Many of Herakontides' mercenaries fall, but their sheer numbers ensure victory. As the fight continues, they start to surround the defending axemen:
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Soon all that remains is one group of defending phalangitai. Charging in from all sides, the mercenaries attack:
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The phalangitai hold their ground and suffer very few losses until Herakontides orders a cavalry charge from the rear:
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Finally, the defenders succome to the Makedonike mercenaries and the city falls:
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The city of Veldideno marks the western most point of Makedonike territory and Herakonties quickly establishes defensive forts along the river and western edge to discourage Gallic incursion. Now, from the source of the Istros south then following the mountain ridge to the sea, with the inclusion of Massalia, marks the edge of Arche Makedonia's western border. Now, all that remains is seccuring Italia and dealing with the Kart-Hadast problem to ensure a peaceful western front.
After securring all of the eastern coast of Italia, Pyrrhos moves his army westward to besiege the city of Capua and defeat the last of the Italian allies of Roma:
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The known world in 202BC, a decade into the Romani War:
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Next: Chapter 32 : The World's Wars
Yes, my computer melted too.
Sorta, I got a nv4_disp error and some device is quote, 'stuck in an infinite loop'. The screen is really staticy and blocky. The static is so bad I can barely see. Also things that look disturbingly like smiley faces show up when I DO turn the computer on...though this definately seems more like a hardware problem and than a virus. Probably something with my video card.
Overall the thing's unusable, and it'll be a few days before someone can get here and fix it. If they CAN fix it.
Wow, another great chapter. :2thumbsup:
Although I'm quite angered about a specific decision of yours:furious3: (I think you can guess why:laugh4:)
Thats quite a tasty empire you got urself, great AAR btw
I'm still wondering what the hell the sweboz are doing? Very little it seems
That sucks, Mordrorru.
I'm currently waiting for the components to build myself a computer to arrive...
The Seleukids couldn't even hold Antiocheia, they don't deserve it to be named after them. :clown:
The Sweboz have indeed been disapointing in this campaign. They have taken two towns on their own. One rebelled and the rest I gave them. Besides that, I have to give then about 200,000 ever decade through cheats and they keep going broke and doing nothing. Now that they've taken Denmark, though, I hope things turn around for them.
Great empire, indeed. In my Mak campaign the Sweboz were giant and deprived me of my Rhaetian holdings...
I thought it would mess up the script or the traits to rename a city?
Yeah, renaming cities can cause problems, but since Antiocheia is easily renamed back to its original name (unlike some of the Germanic cities) I took the chance. The three big things renaming a city does is 1- completely screws up the city for the AI (I don't plan on loosing the city ever again), 2- messes up reform code (Makedonia doesn't have reforms), and 3- messes up victory conditions (I'll change the name back for one turn, once I have all the other requirements so that I might get the victory screen). I don't think there are any traits for Makedonia that require Antiocheia either.
~:) That's nice to hear.
Great job my man great job. Your empire continues to swell along with my own. Kinda nice seeing the parallels
Awesome job, Marcus. This may be a little late, but here's a baloon :balloon3: as congratulations on your 30th chapter! 30 chapters (and counting, now you're up to 32!) of awesome AAR.
Thanks. :bow:
I've gotten the next chapter ready, but I have caught up to where I last played. Since I haven't had a bunch of time to play recently, there may be a short break after this chapter...
and when will this chapter be?......
Chapter 32 : The World's Wars
The Romani War (Part X)
For years the Arche Makedonia had suffered one major weakness in its military. The Antigonid military was basically the same military system that Philipos and Alexandros had used more than a hundred years prior. The near by Celts and Galatians use heavy mailed infantry who are trained to throw javelin before charging. The Seleukids, Ptolemaioi, and even the Kingdom of Pontos had adapted this equiptment and fighting style in the form of the Thorakitai. Over the years of the Aigyptos Wars, the Thorakitai, in the hands of the Ptolemaioi, had evolved from flank guard into a heavy line infantry. Demetrios was hesitant to change, but realized the advantages of the mailed infantry. Merging the equiptment with Makedonike fighting styles, Demetrios re-equiped the Pezhetairoi. The newly equiped Pezhetairoi were proving successful, but the Romani War proved it was not enough.
Even with the new equiptment, Pyrrhos has suffered far more losses then he should have due to the Romani fighting style. The non-pike heavy infantry line is proving to be more manuvuerable and more successful than expected. Aristotelis knew about this weakness, for he had also suffered against the Ptolemaic Thorakitai and their Galatians mercenaries. His father had been reluctant to change, but Basileus Aristotelis is more willing to learn and adapt. Adopting a new form of unit and fighting style, Aristotelis orders some of his men to be equiped and trained in the Diadochi Thorakitai style:
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With mail armor, a spear, and several javelin, the Makedonike Thorakitai are trained across the Arche Makedonia to replace the Thureophoroi, Thrakians, and allies currently guarding the flanks of the Makedonike Pezhetairoi:
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In Demetreia, a new army is trained, completely in the new style of fighting and equipment:
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With a new Basileus, newly acquired peace in the west, a new military system, and finally recovering from the war debt, Arche Makedonia is once again the undisputed lead power in all of the known world:
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With a general sense of peace within the Arche Makedonia, its citizens needed only to fear the wraith of the gods:
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The only war left to Arche Makedonai is in Italia. There, the Romani some how manage to gather another army. This time, they bring large amounts of cavalry, hoping to counter the Illyrian cavalry under Pyrrhos. With the battlefield on a field outside of Capua, the region's garrison and their reinforcements confront Pyrrhos:
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Overcofindent of their ability to break the Pezhetairoi line, the Romani don't even attempt to flank:
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As the Pezhetairoi hold down the first of the Romani attackers, the Illyrian cavalry circles around the rear to attack the men the Romani are holding in reserve. The Illyrians attempt to quickly break them so that they might have a clear shot at the rear of the engaged Romani:
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The Romani reserves hold the Illyrians long enough for the Romani reinforcements from Capua to arrive, but as the reinforcements approach, General Quintus Cornelius Blasio panics and flees:
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The Illyrians are in just the right place and manage to surround the general, killing him. On the battle line, however, the other Romani general, Publius Cornelius Blasio, forces his cavalry through the phalangitai line:
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Charging in from the rear, the Illyrians manage to break the last of the Romani cavalry and relieve the phalangitai. In the fight General Publius Cornelius Blasio falls. With the defeat of the Romani cavalry, the only Romani remaining are one large group of infantry attempting to push through on the Makedonike left flank:
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As Pyrrhos manuveurs his men to surround the group, the Romani panic and flee. Pyrrhos orders all of this infantry to give chase:
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As they chase them down, the Romani once again suprise the Makedones with a late arriving unit of elite spearmen.
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The Roman spearmen attempt to buy some time for their routing friends...
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...but they panic when confronted with so many of Pyrrhos' soldiers. With that, the last of the Romani flee and Pyrrhos moves on to Capua:
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As Pyrrhos marches into the city, he notices that it is vastly over populated. The people of the city are on verge of rioting due to their poor conditions under the Romani. Under the Makedones they are sure to riot. With his distaste for the Romani and his desire to stablize the city, Pyrrhos permits his men to loot and kill. After the looting is over, Pyrrhos gathers nearly half the population of the region and sells them into slavery on the far side of the Arche Makedonia:
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While Arche Makedonia fights the Romani, other wars wage across the known world. To the east, the Mauryan Satrapy of Gandhara had repelled several invasions of the Seleukids and had finally decides to launch an invasion of the Iran and Persia. To the north, the rebel Seleukid Satrapy of Baktria had invaded Gandhara territory in the mountains between India and Baktria. After wiping out the Baktrian main force, marching into India itself, the Gandhara forces attempt to retake the region known as Paropamisadai:
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To the south, in Karmania and all across the Iranian Plataeu, the forces of Gandhara push across Seleukid territory up to the edges of Persis itself. The Seleukids have the forces to counter the invasion, but they lack the leadership to coordinate and gather their forces in a successful defense:
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To the north, in Baktria, land of rivers, the rebel Hellenistic kingdom there is doing much better. With plenty of money, soldiers, and a huge population base, the Baktrians have defeated all the Steppe nations they have fought and now challenge Gandhara. The Baktrians lack the nerves to openly invade the weakened Seleukids, though the Seleukids lack the same courage. More than half a century earlier the Baktrians betrayed the Seleukids and yet Arche Seleukeia did nothing about the open rebellion:
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In Media and Hykania, Seleukid territories openly rebelled, declaring themselves free. The regions had originally been supported by the Kingdom of Hayasdan, but recently they had been separated from Hai support and now exsist independantly of the Armenian monachy:
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Years earlier, the Seleukids had started a war with the Kingdom of Hayasdan. At first the Hai were winning, but the Seleukids quickly turned all of their attension to this front, forsaking others. Now, Seleukid forces occupy the Hai capital and are prepared to completely defeat the small nation. The Seleukids quickly move to occupy all of Armenia, knowing clearly that the Antigonids had long ago made claims on parts of this region:
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The Seleukids not only faced war to the north and the east, but from the south. South of Babylonia, the Kingdom of Sabyn had established a military outpost at the oasis of Gerrha. From there, they are planning to launch in invasion of Babylonia. Though failing on other fronts, the Seleukids are prepared on this one and the initial invasion results in a failure for Sabyn:
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Far from there, in Gaul, another great war is being fought. Many years ago the Arverni Kingdom had betrayed the Aedui Confederation and a great 'civil war' had been fought. Originally, the Aedui had won and in following years united all of Gaul. There was peace in Gaul, but then the Romani ended the Aedui hegemony, completely destroying the Gallic military. When the region was liberated from the Romani, territories were restored to their original owners, resulting in a rebalancing of power between the Aedui Confederation and the Kingdom of the Arverni. Having rebuilt over the years, the Arverni Kingdom invade Confederation lands in an attempt to conquer the whole region:
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South of there, the Iberian Confederation, lead by the Arevaci and Lusotana peoples, defend their lands from the forces of Kart-Hadast. When Kart-Hadast had started their invasion of the area, the tribes were all devided and at war with eachother. Now all the natives are united against their common foe. Originally the Lusotana had lead the alliance of tribes, but with the temperary occupation of Lusotannan territory, the Arevaci gained power in the confederation. Now, the penninsula is devided between the Confederation and the Qarthadastism, with the Qarthadastism controlled inland territories under violent dispute:
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Back to the east, in Aithiopia, the Kingdom of Meroe considers an invasion but does little else besides trading down the Neilos:
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In Makedonia, Chrysoloras, son of Alkyoneus dies. With Perseus dead already, Chrysoloras' death marks the end of Alkyoneus' line, for Chrysoloras has no sons, no nephews, and no living brothers:
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In Anatolia, uncle of both Chrysoloras and Aristotelis, Euboulides, manages to gather an army. Taking all of his sons with him, Euboulides responds to the pleas from the Bosphorian Hellenes, who have found themselves under siege by the Steppe tribes. Although Arche Makedonia has an alliances with the western Steppe tribes, Euboulides rushes in to garrison the region before he is forced to openly oppose any tribe. Landing near Chersonesos, Euboulides garrisons the town with a couple Pontic Spearmen:
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[There was a single unit of Hoplitai guarding the town so I just used auto_win.]
Leaving his two eldest sons in charge of the city, Euboulides and his youngest (and most skilled) son march their army north to secure the rest of the penninsula:
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To the south, the armies of Kart-Hadast march against Kyrenaia again:
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This time, however, the Kart-Hadast forces are extremely underpowered and Antisthenes wins a quick and easy victory:
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With less and less of a challenge being issued by the city of Kart-Hadast, the only remaining war for Arche Makedonia is the Romani War. But in Italia, Pyrrhos rests in Capua and waits to see if the city of Roma will surrender on their own:
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The known world in 200BC:
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Next: Chapter 33
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Post 3500...
Do you have an overall strategy? Recreate the Roman empire with Makedones in their place? Head East and reconquer Alexanders Empire?
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Have you added a faction for the story :shocked: or is it just masterful photoshopping? :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by MAA
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Yeah, you're pretty good with recoloring those Eleutheroi provinces! But how did you get the Ptolemaioi banner on the "Kingdom of Meroe's" armies? I thought you destroyed them...
Excellent job MAA! I particulary like how you mentioned the Ptolemai had reformed their military with the main battle line being made of Theorkikai. That has a familiar sound to it...
My original plan was to recreate Alexander's Empire, but war with the Romani and peace with the Seleukids delayed that. With the fall of Armenia to AS, I fear war in the east is all but inevitable. I might invade Afrika if nothing happens on the eastern front, though. I don't really have any plans for any northern expansion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaivs
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Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
I actually went into the files and changed the colors and names for Pahlav and Ptolemaioi. Callicles actually gave me the idea, so thanks to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix27
I don't know if you can change the symbols, but I didn't even try, that's why they still have their old faction's symbols. (Yes, technically the Ptolemaioi are still alive. I killed them, took a picture of their defeat screen, then reloaded and made them into the Kingdom of Meroe.)
Thanks. It was actually when I read your AAR that I decided to try and mod in Thorakitai for the Makedonians. Due to a fortunate oversight in EB, it was quite easy to get them into the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chirurgeon
whoa. so the Ghandaharans are actually the phalavans, and the meroeans are the ptoleis?
Yep. It is quite fun for role-playing too.
Though, I consider the death of all the Ptolemaios family to be the end of the Ptolemaioi. All they have left is two generals with some random names.
Good update, as always... Would you mind to tell me how to mod in Thorakitai? I'd love to see them for the Makedones.~:) ~:) ~:) I feel it's absolutely natural for them to adopt the Thorakitai type if they had evolved into an empire like yours.
An amazing AAR you have going here MAA, it took me the better part of an hour to get up-to-date! You've already exceeded the size of the Eastern Roman Empire, and are well on your way to recreating the whole thing (you traitorous conqueror of Italia!:clown: ) One small thing, why do you call the (formerly Phalava) faction the Satrapy of Ghandahara, wouldn't they just have formed an Indo-Parthian kingdom? Something similar is happening in my current campaign, with the Pahlava forming a crescent-shaped kingdom from India to the steppes.
Pahlav territory in India was completely cut off from their steppe territories and they were training armies of Indian units. Since they were Indian in all areas except their family members and bodyguards, and since I wanted to roleplay an Indian faction in, I decided to make them Gandhara.
Yeah, I figured that after facing so many Thorakitai, Galatians, and Romani, that the Makedones would finally adopt the unit type.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus
Usually, adding a unit to a faction that doesn't normally is not savegame compatible. I knew that, but I was going to try it anyways. When I went into the DMB, I found that 'macedon' already had a skin assigned to the Thorakitai model. I don't know why, but they had the KH Thorakitai skins/sprite in their slot. So, I first went into the EDU and added 'macedon' to the ownership line of the Throkitai. Then I copied the UI pictures from the 'greek_cities' folders to the 'macedon' folders. After that I had to add recruitment. Since Baktria (who has Thorakitai) shares the MIC with Makedonia, all I had to do is add 'macedon' to all of the Thorakitai entries for 'romans_brutii'. Besides the recruitment part, it was pretty easy to do since I knew what I was doing.
Thank you.~:) I have a Carthaginian campaign in the moment but will remember this for my Makedonian campaign which will follow.:2thumbsup:
Do not forget to delete map.rwm afterwards, though. ~;)
Chapter 33 : The Era of Peace
From the death of Demetrios in 202BC until Aristotelis' mobilization in 198BC, Arche Makedonia sees an era of peace. Roma is all but defeated, Hayasdan is being crushed by Arche Seleukeia, the Ptolemaioi are gone, and the northern and southern (Nubian) borders are so well defended that nobody dares cross them. Other than the isolated actions of Pyrrhos in Italia, only one front remains active. In Kyrenaia, the forces of Kart-Hadast attack once more, though Kart-Hadast has been so weakened by their economic losses it hardly worth considering a war:
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To the west, they had violently subjugated the Numidian tribes years earlier and assembled several large armies, but they don't dare march their armies through the deserts to Kyrenaia, lest the Sikilians take advantage of their weakness and attack the great city of Kart-Hadast itself:
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On the far side of Hellenistic influence, the Seleukid Dynasty continues to loose battles to the Mauryan armies marching in from India:
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Dispite their losses, Makedonike spies indicate that the Arche Seleukeia military and economic systems rival that of Arche Makedonia. Only through corruption and poor leadership do the Seleukids continue to fail on all fronts. As their kingdom crumbles all around them, their corruption increases:
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After a siege that lasts a year, the forces of Kart-Hadast attempt to take the garrison at Kyrene by force:
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With every battle, the garrison of Kyrene gains more experience and learns exactly how to repel a siege. As soon as the Qarthadastism ram comes into range, the archers on the wall light it on fire:
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And to the south, their second ram catches on fire, halting the advance of one of their towers:
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To the north, the city cavalry pelt the Africans pushing the other tower:
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Soon, both towers are worthless, but the enemy ladders are at the walls. With the walls defended by veterans or sons of veterans, who had been granted land in the region, the Qarthadastism soldiers now face a tougher apponent then they are used to:
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The Makedones kill all who come over the wall, but the enemies just keep coming:
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To the south, the Makedonia's Hellene levies break and the Qarthadastism soldiers gain a foothold on the wall. Though it is too late. The rest of the Qarthadastism forces have already been slain and the entire garrison can now focus on this one part of the wall. Circling reinforcements around their rear, the Makedones push the enemy to the corner of the wall:
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With the city safe, Antisthenes turns his cavlary against the Numidian cavalry and the Qarthadastism commander:
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Chasing them into the forests, the Hellenic cavalry cut the enemy to pieces, killing the enemy commander:
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Once again, Antisthenes defends the city of Kyrene, gateway to Aigyptos:
https://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5865/maa1459jt9.jpg
Ever since the Antigonids had saved the Seleukids from being destroyed in the Syrian Wars, Arche Seleukeia had grown stagnant. Years ago, they had attempted to invade India, but failed to hold any territory there. A few years ago they had invaded the Kingdom of Hayasdan. At first they suffered defeat, but then recovered and conquered nearly all of Armenia. Though, with secret Antigonid funding, Hayasdan has rebelled and begun to defeat all Seleukid armies in the region. To the east, the Mauryans now invade Iran and push the Seleukid armies into ever smaller territory. Even in the south, the Kingdom of Sab'yn has won victories against the Seleukids, pushing them back into Babylonia. Even in the center of their kingdom, the Seleukids suffer defeats. Rebel armies, originally funded by the Kingdom of Hayasdan, push through the Hyrkanian mountians and defeat several Seleukid armies on their was south and west.
With Arche Seleukeia crumbling, Aristotelis begins to mobilize his military in the east. Though he isn't ready to betray his long time ally, Aristotelis is ready to 'rescue' the Hellenistic peoples of Babylonia. Whether it be from foreign invaders or the corruption of their own government, the Makedone settlers and Hellenistic Babylonians to the east are in trouble. In the spring of 198BC, Aristotelis moves his armies to the border. In Babylonia, Aristotelis lead the veteran army, while his second son Bykoli lead the newly assembled Syrian army, equiped in the new fashion. In southern Armenia, the aging Captain Aristokles once again leads his Thrakian army, preparing to march back into the Lake Van basin:
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In northern Armenia, Lysippos, son-in-law of Euboulides, leads Euboulides' old army. And in western Armenia, an army of Kappadokians and an army of Pontic Hellenes prepare to invade from the west:
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As this happens, on the far side of Arche Makedonia, an Iberian army from Lacetania attempts to liberate the city of Seguntum. Though they have Makedonike money, they lack any official military backing from the Arche:
https://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3746/maa1464qu4.png
Also, in Italia, the Romani attempt a counter attack. Rather than leaving Capua exposed, Pyrrhos does not counter the attack. Instead, Pyrrhos orders the Sikilian army to march north and rescue the city:
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During this time of peace and prosperity, great building projects are commenced. In Athenai, the largest theater ever build in Arche Makedonia is completed:
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As Arche Seleukeia crumbles, Arche Makedonia's prosperity once again makes them the sole super-power in the known world:
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During this time, Aristokritos, Hellenized king of the Galatians dies:
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With the death of their king, the Galatian fear that they will meet the same fate as the Hellenes and loose their autonomy. The Galatians begin to riot, but their fear is soon relieved. Rather than integrate the region into Arche Makedonia, the Galatians retain their freedom and are permitted to elect a new king:
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To complicate things in the area, Theodoros, son of Kalos and leader of the Anatolia provinces, dies in Sardis:
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This time of peace finally comes to an end when Aristotelis orders Lysippos, the Thrakians, the Kappadokians, and the Pontic Hellenes to invade Armenia:
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Aristotelis tells the Seleukids that he is assisting in their war effort to defeat the Hai. He tells the people of Armenia that he is invading to save them from being slaughtered by Seleukids. And he tells the people of Arche Makedonia that he is going to take the region to avenge those the Hai killed in the previous war and to add the rich territory to their great kingdom. His advisors, however, know that his is only the first step in the war that Aristotelis had been planning since he was a child:
https://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3265/maa1470bf6.jpg
As the era of peace draws to a close, the allied Iberian army besieges the city of Seguntum:
https://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4272/maa1471rg7.png
Four towers are pushed to the walls. Those that flank the gates manage to make it to the walls with only a few losses...
https://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2021/maa1472jt4.png
...but those to the west were both destroyed an those manning them take heavy losses:
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After the lengthy task of securring the walls, the Iberians march into the city and make their way to the town center, where the Qarthadastism general hides. Reaching the city temple, the Iberians stop to rest:
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Completely refreshed, the Iberians storm the city square. As they approach the Qarthadastism soldiers, the are peppered with javelin:
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Before the Iberians could get off a volley of their own javelin, though, they are charged by the enemy:
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As the bulk of the Iberian forces hold down the enemy, a few units of Iberians circle around the rear to surround the enemy:
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Surrounded by spearmen, the enemy general, Adonibal Ilerda, falls quickly. Before too long, only a small group of axemen remain, who fight to the death:
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With the enemy defeated, the allied Iberian army seccures the town. The region soon applies to become part of Arche Makedonia, and the people are overjoyed to be free from the city of Kart-Hadast and joining the most powerful Hellenic nation ever known:
https://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8808/maa1481pa4.jpg
As the era draws to a close and Aristotelis begins his own war, several things occure around Arche Makedonia. In Bosphoria, Euboulides consolidates the entire pennisula under Makedonike power and startes to garrison it against steppe raider incursion. The Illyrian Argeades family starts to establish forts along the Istros River and through the Italian mountain passes to prevent barbarian invasion. And in Iberia, with the successful invasion into Qarthadastism territory, the allied Hellenes and Iberians in the region petition for a fleet so that they might invade the Baleric Islands.
The known world in 198BC:
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Next: Chapter 34 : Eastern Expansion
Woohooo!
Another update, awesomeness. I have very little to remark on the AAR itself, only that I crave for another update :D
I'd like to add thouhg, that next chapter will be no 34. :wink:
Another nice update. *Thumbsup*, an'stuff.
Thanks for the comments.
I change the next chapter number, thanks.
I just received the parts to build my new computer ("3 day delivery" that took 11 days), so I've been working on that. Since I haven't played since just after this next update, I'll hopefully be running the next chapter off of my next system. Although, I'm basically on top graphic settings already so there probably won't be any noticable difference in the pictures. (I just hope my plan to transfer everything over, for the version I'm playing from, works without a problem.)
Good luck with that! I look forward to the next installment! :D
Well, then go on and reunite Alexander's realm! If the Seleucid King has failed his honourable father Seleukos Nikator, than they deserve nothing else!
Don't keep me waiting for the next chapter for long:whip: :laugh4:
Seeing Roma still alive leaves me a bit puzzled. Otherwise... :2thumbsup:
MAA knows that to sack Rome is to bring on the wrath of the gods and his own eventual destruction.
Good luck with the new PC Marcus, waiting for the next addition! :2thumbsup:
Bring it on, Roman freak! =P
I haven't taken Roma yet for two reasons. First, I wanted the fall of Rome to be epic. Right after I took Capua, they had two generals and two Pedites Extraordinarii (a battle hardly worth mentioning). And secondly, Capua is quite rebellious and I need a large army to garrison it.
I doubt it will work this way, but my plan in the east is this: The 'eastern Hai' are trying to take Media. So, my plan is to take Armenia, ally with the 'eastern Hai' and when they take Media and close the AS northern route, I'll strike Babylonia. It looks like I'm going to have to be t he betrayer this time... :skull:
I've finished assembling my computer. It was the first time I've ever build a computer, and it was surprisingly easy. I got RTW and EB on and got my AAR version of EB (v0.97 as I call it) to run. It crashed when I tried to load a battle, though. I haven't given up, but I'm tired and will work on it tommorrow.
The cool thing is that the initial loading which used to take about 5+ minutes takes about 30 seconds, and the framerate on the strat map never changes from 30fps.
Ha! Very nice Marcus! And you are using NEW DMS units! I WE WNAT's IT :yes:
That means that new Macedonian generals are in EB 11!
I cant wait for EB 11 anymore! :hourglass: (or are those DMS your own?:thinking2: )
The strat map models?
Those are actually v0.80 strat models. The version I'm playing this AAR on was made about a week before the release, and I believe the strat models were the last change made before the release.
Really...? :whip: :(
OK, anyways I am a bit -over my head- because I cant mod-up the DMB generals for DMS. . . That is why I am starting a new WinVistax86 so I can use 3Dmax.:wall:
Any chance you could post a picture of your family tree to show the make up of the royal line in the post Demetrias era?
I've been wondering what it might look like after such an extended game.
Chapter 33!!!
Thanks for showing everyone that Makedonia is full of win:jester:
And what Thrond said:eyebrows:
I managed to get the game working on my new computer. It didn't want to work along side EBv1.0, but I renamed folders and finally got it to work. I've played about a chapter's worth and will try to make another update soon...
I was thinking of taking a picture of the family tree every now and again, back when I started this AAR. The problem is remembering and labelling everyone's names. I'll take some pictures of the family tree next time I play the game and see what I can make.
Just a preview:
When I first got RTW to work on my new rig, I turned grass all the way up (since it was the only graphic detail I could think of that wasn't already maxed out). It's max range (500) wasn't very good (I couldn't see much if I zoomed the camera all the way out) and it caused a little lag. In the end I turned it down to 100 (default=75). But here is an example of what EB looks like with the highest detail levels I could get out of the engine:
https://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6668/maa2002ex4.png
P.S. I took pictures of my family tree and am working on editing them.
P.P.S. I'm spamming a bit, so that when I finish my next chapter it will be on the next page of this thread. (Though, there is no rush, I'll finish it late tommorrow at the soonest.)
Marcus...where do you live...
I am going to steal your computer...
So...pretty...
It's so dark I can hardly see anything.:(
Adjust your monitor settings Centurio! (I take it you have a CRT monitor? My LCD one shows the picture just fine: nice metallic reflections and glints, grass etc. Looks like I might have taken that shot. :beam:)
I put together the family tree and decided to label a few guys. I put a little
too much info for some guys, but here is the Antigonid family tree in the year
197BC. I've numbered a few important guys that I've
mentioned throughout the AAR and will describe them a bit.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I'll start with the most important family then go to the side families:
In the center we have Antigonos Gonatas (1) and his family. Grandson of Antigonos
Monophthalmus, Antigonos Gonatas united the Hellenes and began the campaigns against the
Ptolemaioi. His first born son, Alkyoneus (2) shared the throne with his brother after the
death of Antigonos, but died himself in the Pontic War. Perseus (3) and Chrysoloras (4)
did not inheret the throne, but instead dedicated their lives administering Makedonia and
working the Hellenes into Arche Makedonia. With no sons, Perseus and Chrysoloras are the end
of Alkyoneus' line.
Antigonos' second son, Demetrios (5) was a great general when he first came to share the
throne. When his brother died, he came to the throne and lead Arche Makedonia to glory. Almost
single-handedly defeating the Ptolemaioi, Demetrios shifted his attension to Kart-Hadast and
Roma. Still planning more conquests, Demetrios died in Massalia and passes the throne to his
son. Named for the instructor of Alexandros, Aristotelis (6) came to be a great general,
conquering the Levant at the end of the Aigyptos Wars. When his father dies, he comes to
inheirit the throne of Makedonia. With troubles in the east, Aristotelis prepares to realize his dream
of reuniting Alexandros' Empire.
Aristotelis is the only son of Demetrios and has but two sons himself. Neokles (7) witness
to Demetrios' death leads the western army, while Bykoli (8) leads the new Syrian army at
his father's orders.
Finally, there is the last son of Antigonos, Euboulides (9). Euboulides spent his early life
administering Makedonia and Epieros while his father and brothers did greater things. When his
eldest brother, Alkyoneus died in the Pontic War, Euboulides took command of his army and
defeated the last of the Pontic kings. When the First Armenian War started, Euboulides lead the
main attacks against the Hai and took several territories from them. Recently, Euboulides
acquired Bosphoria for Arche Makedonia. His son-in-law, Lysippos, now leads the war in the
Second Armenian War. Due to Euboulides' brothers' families inability to have sons, Euboulides'
line may someday rule the Arche...
To the left we have Krateros (10), elder brother of Antigonos. His son, Alexandros (11)
, conqueror of Illyria. Most of his family administered Illyria, but Nepos (12) leads the
invasion of northern Italia with his sons. First born son, Neikolaos (13) led a Celtic army to
victories in Gaul against the Romani. Second son, Gelon (14) takes control of northern
Italia. And third son, Pyrrhos the Crippled (15) conquers most of Italia and continues to
defeat the Romani.
To the far right, there is Kalos (16), younger brother of Antigonos. After Kalos' failed attempt
to take Pergamon, his family has not had very much military activity. His descendants now
administer Anatolia, while his in-laws are sent wherever they are needed across the Arche.
wow nicely done MAA! I want to do that for my campaign. How did you get the whole family tree in one picture where you can view without scrolling back and forth?
It's actually 14 or 15 pictures that I stuck together (thus all the stupid, repeating "Family Tree"s across the top).
Yes I have a CRT monitor. I made the settings indeed quite dark. But I'm quite content with it, I chose lightning file number 3 instead of adjusting the monitor settings.~:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios
Chapter 34 : Eastern Expansion
The Fall of Hayasdan
As the winter of 198BC hits, the Romani end their campaigning season and withdraw back to Latium:
https://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3443/maa2004my5.png
With fresh Sikilian reinforcements to garrison the huge city of Capua, Pyrrhos takes the initiative the next spring. Gathering his entire army, Pyrrhos marches into Latium, raiding any Romani allies he finds along the way, and besieges the city of Roma itself:
https://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6619/maa2005wh0.png
The spring of 197BC also sees the Makedonike campaign in Armenia. Having campaigned in Iberia, Lysippos manages to corner Bagrat Yervanduni, king of Hayasdan in the small city of Mtskheta, along the Kyros River. Bagrat is well prepared, though, and can stand a lengthy siege. Rather than risk Hai reinforcement from their allies to the east, Lysippos decides to attack the city:
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Only Bagrat Yervanduni, his elite cataphracts, and a few elite infantry hold the city. With minor defenses, it is an easy task for the Peltastai to break down the walls:
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At first, the Hai infantry move to defend the walls, but Lysippos moves his archers near the walls. The archers hold their fire at first, but at Lysippos' command they open fire. The Hai elites attempt to flee, but all those who moved to defend the breach end the day in Hades:
https://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2205/maa2008og2.png
With the walls taken, Lysippos moves his phalangitai into the city. Taking their time, they slowly march down the streets, eventually surrounding the city center. Rather than let the noose tighten around his neck, King Bagrat charges out to confront the phalangitai on his own terms:
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The heavy Haikakan cataphracts are only halted for a moment. Soon, King Bagrat leads his men in breaking through the pikes and attack the phalangitai directly:
https://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7626/maa2010kc4.png
As the phalangitai slowly get out-matched, more phalangitai units move to surround the Haikakan king and attack him from multiple sides:
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As the rest of the Makedonike army moves against the last of the infantry, King Bagrat manages to completely disrupt the phalangitai formation and break through them. Seeing the distress, a third unit of phalangitai move in to assist on the critical right flank:
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Eventually, the formations of the phalangitai completely break down and Lysippos, who is leading from just behind the battle, orders his men to switch to their swords:
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Even though King Bagrat and his men killed many Makedones, the noose around his neck is finally tightened when his men begin to panic and try to flee. With nowhere to flee to, the surrounded cataphracts are slaughtered and Bagrat Yervanduni, King of Hayasdan falls dead in the streets of Mtskheta.
With their king dead, the last of the Hai choose to stand to the last at the city center. Lysippos blocks all exits and has his archers, who are deployed all around the city, open fire on the city center:
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The last of the Hai eventually fall, dead or injured, and the city is taken, but with greater causualties than Lysippos had first assumed:
https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4946/maa2017sw7.jpg
With the fall of Iberia and the Lake Van region, only the capital city of Armavir remains loyal to the dying Kingdom of Hayasdan. With many groups of spies and sabateurs in the city, the infrastructure and gateways of the city are already destroyed. Unable to attack the city himself, Lysippos orders the Kappadokians and Pontics to besiege the city:
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The first to march forward are the Peltastai, who slowly move forward then charge as soon as the towers and wall defenders open fire on them. With most or the Haikakan soldiers on the walls, only a small unit of cavalry defend the gateway. After a short fight, the cavalry break and the the Peltastai take the gateway:
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Haikakan reinforcements soon arrive from the walls and elsewhere in the city. As the Peltastai hold down the enemy, the phalangitai rush through the gateway and make their way into the city, past all the defenders.
To the north, the Kappadokian army charges another gateway:
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This gateway, however is well defended and the Kappadokians are halted at the gate:
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Eventually the Peltastai panic and flee from the city. By this time, however, the phalangitai have made their way deep into the city and have taken up a defensive possition. The wall defenders rush in to defend the city center, but are meet by a wall of spears:
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As one flank holds down the infantry from the walls, the left flank turns to meet cavalry from the city center:
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To the north, however, the Kappadocians continue to take losses and fail to take the gateway. They do, however, manage to tie down half the the defending force and prevent them from assisting their comrades with the phalangitai.
With the western gate undefended, the Pontic slingers take the oppertunity to take control of the walls. From their high possition, they open fire on any Haikakan soldiers that are stupid enough to get near them:
https://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4864/maa2026ye2.png
With the bulk of the phalangitai holding down the Haikakan infantry still, the left flank moves toward the city center to get into a better possition. Eventually, the Haikakan cavalry archers run out of arrows and charge their possition, but the phalangitai hold their ground:
https://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6103/maa2027wx3.png
Eventually, the Kappadokian army breaks and flees. Without support, the phalangitai and slingers withdraw as well and leave the Hai in control of the city. Though an official failure, the remaining Hai forces are reduced to a quarter of their strength:
https://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7306/maa2028mr9.jpg
A month later, the old veteran, Captain Aristokles, who had retaking the Van Lake region the previous autumn, marches his Thrakian army against the city of Armavir:
https://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1046/maa2029fu1.png
Once again, the gateway is easily taken, as the Thrakians cut the horses out from under the Hai:
https://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8571/maa2030pe1.png
The Thrakians then take the walls and kill the few men left defending them:
https://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9429/maa2031ra7.png
To the south, the steppe cavalry manages to take up possition on a hill that gives them the range to attack the wall defenders, on the far side of the city:
https://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6682/maa2032sm4.png
With the walls taken, Captain Aristokles marches his men to the city center, where the Getic spearmen pin down the Haikakan infantry:
https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6409/maa2033mo3.png
The Haikakan cavalry attempt to attack the flank of the spearmen, but are quickly outmanuevered by the Thrakians:
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With the Thrakians in possition, most of the Getic soldiers break formation and surround the enemy cavalry:
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The Thrakians cut through the enemy as if it were nothing, and soon only a few elites remain fighting:
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Finally, the last enemy falls and Captain Aristokles and the Thrakians take the city:
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[Captain Aristokles, himself, on the right.]
Captain Aristokles takes many losses amoungst the Thrakians, but the Getic spearmen, and various cavalry get through the battle with very few losses:
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As the battle comes to a close, the people of the city, themselves, begin to take up arms against the Thrakians. Before anything can be done, another battle begins. In the end many Hai civilians die and Captain Aristokles orders many more gathered to be sold as slaves elsewhere in Arche Makedonia:
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With the fall of Iberia and Armavir, the last of those loyal to the Kingdom of Hayasdan are brought into Arche Makedonia. Aristotelis is happy to hear that the kingdom that had caused so much trouble has finally passed from this world and joined those like the Ptolemaioi and the Kingdom of Pontos:
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As for Captain Aristokles and his men, Aristotelis grants them land near Lake Van, where they had spent most of their military career. This region, to the south, is on much friendlier terms with Arche Makedonia due to the prior occupation and due to their relationship with the King of Sophene. Taking a wife from the city of Tushpa, the Thrakian commander, Aristokles ends his career with Arche Makedonia and settles down for his old age:
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Far south of their, Makedonike intel finds that the Sab'yn Kingdom has mobilized their entire military in an attempt to invade Seleukid Babylonia:
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With a core of elite Arabs, Aristotelis estimates they have more than enough to defeat the weakened Seleukids. For now, Aristotelis continues the peace with the Seleukids and waits to see how this war will develop:
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Other ominous news reaches Aristotelis this year, as spies report that a Hellenic man in Nubia claims to be descendant from the Ptolemaic line and claims rights to all the lands once in his ancestor's hands. For now, Arche Makedonia simply calls the man a fake and ignores the problem:
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The known world in 197BC:
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Next: Chapter 35 : The Fall of Roma
I thought all the Ptolemies were extincted, only in-laws left? A bit much battle this time, but still great. I love it how you give "leftovers" a new colour and declare them a different faction. But how did you manage to get the "Hay destroyed" pop-up when they are still alive in Iran?
Yeah, there were only distant in-laws left. But there was bound to be a Ptolemaios child that would come of age and spawn in their new capital. To cover this eventuallity, I did some foreshadowing in a previous chapter about a Ptolemaios child who was taken into hiding in Nubia.
I actually saved, cheated in various ways to quickly kill Hayasdan, took the picture, reloaded before they died, and continued from there.
Lovely :yes:
Nice one with the family line and yet another great chapter + nice little spin with the ptolemoi guy
I'm wondering if a superpower is going to emerge from the east or the steppes?
Great AAR, MAA, keep it up! So what's the name of our new purple faction, then?
Thanks.
I'm not exactly sure what is going to happen in the east. Saka is a protectorate under Baktria. Since AI-AI protectorates are one of the few things the diplomacy engine seems to keep, it looks like Baktria won't be heading north like they stupidly will some times. I've been trying to get AS and Baktria to fight for a long time, but they just don't want to. If I don't get there first, it looks like the Baktrians are either going to become an Indo-Greek superpower or Gandhara(Pahlav) is going to become an Indo-Iranian superpower.
What the new faction is, I'll answer with a preview from my next chapter:
https://img161.imageshack.us/img161/2571/maa2045na4.jpg
You changed their in-game name, too, huh? Did you do the same for Gandhara and Meroe?
You can change the in-game name in-game? I never get an alliance with somebody I have been at war with, not even a ceasefire.:no:
I had to change a text file to change the names, "expanded_bi.txt" IIRC.
I used forced diplomacy to get that alliance, :shame: but we don't share a border anymore so they might have given it to me anyways, eventually. :sweatdrop:
nice update! cant wait for the fall of Roma!
what are you going to do about the getai in the north? they look big.....
also, is the model for the romani generals in the campaign the old ones from RTW?
Were are you planning on going after the fall of rome?
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I'm more impressed than anything with how logical the world looks, as far as a Total War game is concerned. :stunned: (Ignore the Swêbôz in Novgorod and assume Pahlava are really Gandhara.)
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Great as always, looking forward to the next chapter
That's probably because MAA wiped the Romans out... (The SPQR always spoils the reason and sense to expansion.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
The Getai have been my friends since the very beginning. Currently they show no signs of betrayal (they'll heavily garrison the towns they share with you just before betraying you), so I'll leave them for now. The spawned armies of Lugia have wandered to all of those rebel territories in the Poland/Belarus area, so I don't think they'll be expanding northward, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by hooahguy
The strat models are whatever was in the game in v0.8x.
With Getai friendly and between the fact that I don't want Gaul and that the 'civil war' has heated up again, I don't think I'll be heading north. Which leaves Carthage and the Seleukids as candidates for expansion. I was planning on taking Babylonia, but I'm going to wait a while to see if the Ache Seleukiea - Sab'yn War will weaken both of them. I also plan on kicking Carthage out of Iberia, but the Luso's are finally starting to win that war too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfman
There's three main reasons that my AI expansion isn't crazy. 1- I kept Hai out of the steppes. 2- I took towns in Germania from Aedui and gave them to Sweboz through forced diplomacy. And 3- Baktria got Saka to be their protectorate, stopping Baktria from striking northward. (And of course, stopped the Romans and their awkward expansion.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
Hey Marcus your Empire is starting to look like a Greceo-Roman Empire kinda like
Alexandros and the East and West put together in a nice lovely Black ball of death :skull: . BTW it's been awhile since I've been on and now I see ALOT more Macedonian AARs, Nice one Marcus:applause:
I never even planned to head westward, but the Romans and Carthaginians just wouldn't leave me alone. (Plus, I had to stop the crazy Romani expansion problems.)
It's good to see more Makedonian fans out there. Unfortunately, for me, most of the new AAR are better written than mine.
I've finally gotten around to working the next chapter and will have it up today.
Chapter 35 : The Fall of Roma
Spring 197BC, Pyrrhos of Makedonia is attacked by a small Romani legion under the command of Tiberius Aurelius Cotta. As the battle begins, Consul Manius Cornelius Blasio marches the only remaining full legion of Roma from the city to join in the fight. Having learned their lesson about their lack of cavalry, the Romani field huge amounts of horsemen to counter Pyrrhos' veteran Illyrian cavalry:
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On the fields of Latium, just south of the city of Roma, the two armies march toward eachother. If the Romani loose this battle, everything they have every had is lost. If Pyrrhos looses this battle, he will call upon his brother's army in Arretium, the Illyrian army in Ariminum, or the Sikilian army in Capua. Win or loose, Pyrrhos is dedicated to taking the city sooner or later:
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The Romani make the first move, as they charge their cavalry into the Makedonike left flank. To counter, Pyrrhos moves both his cavalry and his reserve Samnites to that flank:
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Arriving on that flank, the Illyrian cavalry charges a unit of Romani horsemen who are attempting to move around to the Makedonike rear:
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Soon, the entire Romani legion charges at the Pezhetairoi line and attempts to break through it:
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The line holds, but the trouble on the left flank continues:
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On the right flank, the second devision of Illyrians charges the Romani general:
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General Tiberius Aurelius Cotta escapes, but on the second charge, Servius Cornelius Scipio is cornered:
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With nowhere to go, Scipio dies on a Makedonike pike.
With their generals dead, the forces from the city begin to faulter and some begin to flee. Seeing the fleeing enemy, the Illyrian right flank takes the oppertunity to wipe out the Romani before they can regroup:
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Pyrrhos finally moves to the left flank, himself, and personally takes command of the cavalry there. Charging in on the Romani Consul, Pyrrhos and his men surround him and fight with their swords:
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The left flank continues to suffer, as Pyrrhos fights the Romani Consul. With the right flank secured, the Samnites charged with guarding the right flank charge across the battle line and rush to assist their fellow Samnites, fighting on the left flank:
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Soon, the Romani Consul is alone, as the last of his men die. Breaking from the fight, he attempts to flee, but runs right into Balearic swords:
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When Pyrrhos and his cavalry charge after the Consul from behind, Consul Blasio is cornered by the Balearic Slingers and is slain:
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With their Consul dead, many of the Romani think of their families back in Roma and turn to run back to the city. Only a few Romani soldiers remain behind to fight. Namely, the Romani elite spearmen and their elite allied swordsmen. One unit of Romani allies attempts to circle around the rear of the right flank (undefended because the Samnites who were guarding it had moved to the left flank), but the Pezhetairoi break formation and charge them:
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On the left flank, the elite Romani spearmen charge the exhausted Samnites, who hold them down while Pyrrhos rests his horses:
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Seeing their betters still fighting, several units of Romani return to the battle and the Pezhetairoi attempt to reform and meet them, though they are quite exhausted:
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Finally, with a little rest, Pyrrhos charges his cavalry into the rear of the elite enemy:
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With that, the Romani once again break and flee back to Roma. As Pyrrhos and the entire cavalry force gives chase, the Pezhetairoi form a defensive possition and rest for a short while:
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The resting comes to an end when the old elite men of Roma arrive and attack from several sides. Unable to hold them off in formation, the Pezhetairoi drop their sarrisas and charge the enemy with their swords:
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The Pezhetairoi surround the old men, but these elite men hold their formation and continue to fight:
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Only when charged by Pyrrhos and the cavalry are these elite old men defeated. Pyrrhos gives chase to the city, but the remaining Romani barricade themselves in the city:
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Pyrrhos wins a great victory against a numerically superior army of elites, but the day is not entirely his:
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The city is too large and well fortified to take by force, and they have enough supplies to wait Pyrrhos out. Seeking an alternative, Pyrrhos attempts to negotiate. The diplomats make good ground, but in the end the Romani refuse to surrender and Pyrrhos is forced to besiege the city and wait out the Romani.
Over the next two years, Pyrrhos defeats all of Roma's allies in Latium and raids those who refuse to surrender. By the time Roma's supplies are running low, they have no more allies to turn to outside their walls:
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Finally, the Romani send out a envoy to discuss the terms of their surrender. Even after seventeen year of war, Pyrrhos does not take advantage of the situation. Promising that he will not loot the town, kill the people, or destroy their holy places, Pyrrhos arranges a surrender. Pyrrhos marches his army through the gates of Roma and takes control of the city:
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With that, the Romani and their Italian alliance comes to an end:
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As Pyrrhos secures the city, he is amazed at what he sees. The only city in the world that can even compete with the size and amount of people in Roma is Selekeia, but Romani technology for a town of such size surpasses what Hellenes and Makedones had ever done before.
To provide water to so many people (34,000+ in game), the Romani devise an advanced water delivery systems to bring water from the hills down to every part of the city. The parts of the system outside of the city had been damaged, but Pyrrhos, the very man who damaged them, funds their rebuilding:
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The Romani are quite religious people and have great temple complexes in their city. Pyrrhos and his men are impressed, though it is nothing as grand as the Parthenon in Athenai:
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The Romani are so superstitious in fact, that they even have state sponsered divination rituals to predict the future:
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The very center of Roma is based upon their great forum at the very center, where their religion, their government, and their trading is all preformed:
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One of the most unique things about Romani life, is their entertainment. Huge, government funded arenas are built where they have men fight to the death for the entertainment of the lower classes. Armed combat for sport is not alien to Pyrrhos, but the scale on which the Romani perform it is quite unique:
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More to Pyrrhos' liking are the government sponsered chariot races:
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As Pyrrhos takes control of the city, he makes sure that very few Romani are actually killed. Keeping his promise, the population is neither slaughtered nor sold into slavery. Only a few disagreable Senators are killed, though not all. One Senator, a man who fought against Pyrrhos two years earlier, even joins Arche Makedonia and is given command of the regional military, which is basically nonexsistant:
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After receiving gifts from many rich families in Roma, Pyrrhos reestablishes the Romani Senate with Makedonia-friendly men and begins to return the town to their control. [I set up a Type4 and am going to role-play that the client ruler is actually the Senate.] Pyrrhos, not a man of peace and administration, plans to move his army from the city in a few years and return the whole of central Italia to the new Senate, as soon as he believes they can be trusted...
Next: Chapter 36 : As Roma Fell (aka What else was going on at this time)
YAHOOO!!!!!! very nice update!
Very, very nice MAA. Other may write better, yet the way you describe your battles and the way you role-play more that make up for what you say you lack at writing skills. I have just looked back. The Romani war has been going on for quite some time (from page 8/9 up too now).
What do you intend to do now? Make a new faction and force it to become protectorate like all the other "fake" faction you have created or what? And how long did it take to take Rome? Crazy! I know you role-play but you could have attacked Rome any time any day. One final question. You did battle for the city, right? In order to get the message. Did you reload after that and force-diplomacy or did you really attack them? If so, what were the losses?
Once again, great AAR MAA!
another epic update MAA!
@ Respenus
If you are beseiging a settlement and you command a force that is numerically superior to the enemy's sometimes the settlement will surrender to your forces without a fight.
MAA your contribution to the world of AARs is truly epic. You don't give yourself enough credit. The descriptions of your battles and your roleplaying are awesome. What I like is the fact that you are continuously offering us surprises and you play as if this is the real world. You have seamlessly blended many aspects of gameplay that makes for a thoughly enjoyable read
:book: Keep up the good work. You are dedicated to your task at hand and I commend you.
However your empire has grown so large you are the new Rome. You will have to deal with the many challenges of a huge expansive empire. Would you mind showing a screenshot of how much corruption you have from your end of turn report? Thanks,
Chirurgeon :egypt:
As much as I appreciate your AAR, I have to say that this was quite not what I had expected.~;) As Carthage I conquered Roma a few days ago and I got some 80.000 mnai out of it. They had 35,000 inhabitants, now they have 9,000. I made them a provincial backwater. I accidentaly made them a client kingdom afterwards though. I had planned a New Colony to destroy them completely...
Thank you for the kind words, everyone.
After the first battle, the Romani had almost no money and 200 men left. After 9 turns of siege they just died without a fight. But they are dead. I was considering making a protectorate out of them, but the protectorate system is bugged and ends up destroying your economy. If they were simply forced into an alliance, they would betray it sooner or later. In the end, I destroyed the faction (completely).
Even after Roma surrendered, I wasn't sure what I was going to do. I looked at the occupy/enslave/exterminate screen for a while and ended up pushing occupy. If I exterminated I probably would have ended up killing more people than the entire war with Egypt cost. I didn't want my empire to be that evil, so that and my love of the Romans kept me from killing them off.
A truly epic update, MAA!! I like the civility that you showed towards the Romani, totally befitting a cultured Hellenic civilization overawed by the glorious achievement of their Roman superiors. :clown: It was kind of annoying to see a mix of Camillan and Polybian units though, but thats the AI for you...