BKB Super Mod

When playing last night as the Golden Horde on Expert setting(hardest faction to play in this mod as far as i'm concerned) everything was going as well as can be expected.I ignored the Il-Khanate until in the year 1340 they decided to attack me.The game froze again.The freeze for me seems to be related to the Il-Khanate every time.I have played through with the Portugese and the Teutons with no problems but this was probably because the Il-Khanate had been removed from the picture already by their neighbours.
When i have played as the Turks,GH or Byz the game has frozen on attacking or being attacked by the Il-Khanate.When i play as the Il-Khanate i can attack rebels with no problems but when i attack the Turks the game freezes.
Just writing this so that BKB can document the problems for his final release.It's an excellent mod and i have had to completely rethink my battlefield tactics on several occasions so far.
Keep up the good work.

Thanks for the info, i have a look at the il khanate and try to destroy this problem.

Has anyone had this problem in any other periods?

sorry to disturb ya mate but i have a big problem. a) my mtw disk is scratched so don't work (but that's ot) and your mod appears to have some very annoying bugs. par example, when i click build for the italians it goes on about order crossbowmen and some default picture thing. and if i want and info pic, it ctd's me.
any help is appreciated

Yep BKB I had a freeze playing the Viking campaign, not even part of your mod. But I reckoned it wasnt supposed to work anyway once your files slip there tentacles into the folders.

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sorry to disturb ya mate but i have a big problem. a) my mtw disk is scratched so don't work (but that's ot) and your mod appears to have some very annoying bugs. par example, when i click build for the italians it goes on about order crossbowmen and some default picture thing. and if i want and info pic, it ctd's me.
any help is appreciated

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I honestly think your game is f'd mate - I've never heard of a problem this drastic before!

Azzole, I presume it will mess up your Viking game. Sorry about that.

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Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia

Thanks for the info, i have a look at the il khanate and try to destroy this problem.

Has anyone had this problem in any other periods?

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I have been playing as the Il-Khanate and attacking the Turks and no freezes have happened for me. In fact from what I have played, I have not had freezes at all. But I rarely have the patience to play more than 50 turns or so, before I want to try out a different faction. Only freezes I have had is in the main menu when quitting. But that happens with other mods to occasionally. This is a bit of a mystery ~:dizzy:

ah dut, I'm not advocating piracy here, but if you decide to buy Medieval Total War but get one of your discs scratched, I believe that in the US, under the fair use act, you are allowed to download one copy of the media you have on CD, so if I were you I'd either send in the damaged disk with $5 or download a copy of the disc.

Im playing byzanthians and in 1352 thoze yellow bastards ill kagnate or whatever their called invade me in trezboni, i retreat forces to castle , no crash but when i counter attack next round and they run back to their mommies the game crashes in 1353 ( entire pc hardlocks ~:mecry: )

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Originally Posted by bbcrackmonkey

ah dut, I'm not advocating piracy here, but if you decide to buy Medieval Total War but get one of your discs scratched, I believe that in the US, under the fair use act, you are allowed to download one copy of the media you have on CD, so if I were you I'd either send in the damaged disk with $5 or download a copy of the disc.

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mate, does anything like disk doctor or the like work for scratched disks?

~:angry: ~:angry:

Hello all, I was just playing the Venetians when when my game frost in 1532, it happen in previous games and I noticed that could be avoided by deactivating the autosave, but this time it didn't work. That's bad because I was having a real great time !!!

Speedfreak

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1532?!? Do you mean 1352? Yeah I'm trying hard to sort out these freezes, and I do think it has something to do with the Ilkahante. Now if they appeared in Early and High that would throw me. Perhaps you guys could help me out with a bit of detective work as to what's causing the problem. Be vigilante! :knight:

I suppose what we could do is edit the startpos file for late and give the Ilkahante no units and let that faction die an early death. Then we could continue our late campaign and see if it still freezes. Unless of course the Ilkahante comes back later in the game.

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On a more pleasant point of view, when is the release of the final version scheduled for (yeah, I'm annoying with that question) ? What will you be adding in it (this one must be quite boring too, but I thought it was worth asking ) ?

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At the moment I'm making units - added about 5, and adding about 15 more. The maps are done - early I'm particularly proud of. I know you guys dig the new land masses (Iceland and Balearics) and another has been added to early. Its very interesting and looks very cool. When the units are done I'll look at all the feedback in the thread and incorporate the changes into the game, plus do some more balancing. Then I'll finalise the names (adding Princess ones) and add in Heroes. Plus they'll be a selection of deadpages thanks to King Azzole.

I also want to add some more buildings, but can't think of any. Can you guys suggest any, and I'll tell you if they're possible or not? Be specific with what they contribute to the game also.

On course for a mid-late September release, before Rome anyway.

Great news ! ~:cheers:

For the new building, I had quite a few ideas (not thinking about new ressource buildings like fishery), but I think they can't be applied to MTW.

BKB ive been playing an early campaign as the norse and its been good so far. Map is pretty much divided between me and the byzantines, which we are now massively at war on all fronts. So far no crashes whatsoever, however I did notice alot of Deadpage inconsistancys I missed and have been fixing as i go. I will give you the updated deadpages when you give me the unitprod with the new units to edit. I also noticed no portrait for the Norse Cardinal. I get the black screen thingy. I also noticed with heretical churchs. Not sure if your aware of this: When you put one in a province (at least happened when i was playing as the flemish) other religeons started getting popular. I can understand the heretical religeon going up but I also saw Islam go up to 20% and judiasm go to 20%!!! Was kinda neat till my loyaltys started lowering.

NEW BUILDING SUGGESTIONS:

Slave trader: Gives very good income in slave trade provinces, like 200+ florins a turn, but every turn you have a small chance of having a slave uprising (like a few units of some peasants or something) , this is regardless of how many loyalty you have. I can think of some other penaltys as well.

ANOTHER BUILDING IDEA:

Fletcher: If after building a master bowyer, you can build a fletcher. Fletcher allows the archers to have a slightly longer range, and maybe a few other benefits if you can think of any.

BUILDING/UNIT idea: When you build a college of surgeons, you are able to produce surgeons. A surgeon has the ability to remove certain negative vices like Alchoholism from generals, but also has a small chance of killing the general (surgeory was kinda crude back then)

NEW AGENT TYPE:

Brothel spy. When you have the highest form of spy unit building, you have the ability to produce "Princess spys." These lovely ladys present themselves as princesses from your faction, and request marriage to the other king. If the king accepts you get inside spy information about attacks that king is planning. Also have a slight chance the king relaizes shes not a true princess and kills her and raises hostilities.

Here's a complete list I'll update if needed :

- The Lists, or Tournament field, or whatever you call it. Christian only. Increase population loyaulty and grant and little income. You may want to make it a requirement for some mounted units, or create a new unit like champion berseker or champion swordman, called champion knight or just champion (for western christian faction -french, german, english and maybe the castillan) that would need this building.

- Carnival, or Festival or market place. Christian only. Kinda the same thing.
Income + loyaulty + mercenary magnetism.

- Alchemist's study. I thought that Muslim could have access to a super assassin, since they can't use inquisitor and grand inquisitor. The problem is that you'd have to create a new agent, and that alchemist was also studied by christians. (oh yeah, I don't know why an alchemist would be a super assassin, but well, I think this idea rock. Anyway, you can replace it by a
- Witch house. Not a *real* witch but rather a woman expert in poisons and lethal ales.
Both of them would be some superior assassins, but not invisible in the campaign map (like the geisha in STW, though not as effective). They could also decrease loyalty in other factions' province (or increase loyalty in your province).

- Hachichin's keep (tho keep might not be the best word). Muslim only. It can either be a requirement for some Hachichin new units and for the original MTW unit, or may allow us to recruit a super assassin (there again, you'd have to create a new agent).

- Astrologer's study. Muslim. Could give access to a new title, that would give a high accumen bonus.

- Some new ressource buildings based on clothes, jewells or things like that for faction who start with less province.

- I wanted to find something about a cartographer, but I had no idea, unhappilly.

- If possible, adding the pre-farm (the one we have to build in viking invasion) buildings would be nice, if granting larger farm incomes.
Btw, since we have access to the heretic abbey, why not the common abbey (with reduced income, 208 per province might be quite high early in the game) and maybe the same building with another name for pagans/muslims ?

- A thing that would be nice IMO - but not really needed. Well, even not needed at all -, especially for the crusader states faction, is a different building for each crusader order. It's not a big deal, nor a serious issue, but I think having all of them in a same building is kinda weird (for the crusader state at least).

PS : Most of this ideas are useless, or don't add many thing to the game, but since you've asked for them, and since I don't have a decent life at the moment, I decided that wasting a few hours trying to find some cool ideas for your mod could be a good thing for my not-so-exciting-life.

Nice ideas I especially like the Tourny field.

But it is Atronomer not Astrologer. I think Islam is against Astrology IIRC. Also , perhaps add a slight speed bonus to units who are made with a Master Armourer to simulate lighter better armor made by these folks?

Oh yeah, sorry for the astrologer mistake.

Your ideas are cool aswell (though I think adding them to the game would be difficult if not impossible)

The spy princess would be awesome in a MP campaign ~:joker:

Oh wait, there's no MP campaign ~:dizzy:

I think BKB could do at least the slave trader and fletcher idea.

I don't have any skill in modding MTW, but I think (and hope) that these 2 are fairly possible :)

Some great ideas but unfortunately KA some of the benefits just cannot be done (the ability to remove certain vices, the longer range for arrows). The Tournament field is a superb idea, as is the Brothel spy. The slave trader idea is a good one but it is a trade good and unfortunately trade goods cannot trigger the construction of buidlings, only resources which I can't add.

Suicide Naptha bombers for Islamic factions? ~:joker: jk ~:p

~D A few ideas m8,
I've Created new bifs etc for Markets, Guild halls, League banks, Mills, Cottage Industry/Basic Industry, Monastery Industries, Camel trains (Pan-saharan and silk road trade) all to boost the AI's finances and to specialise unit production. Plus from VI, I borrowed butts, stables, to train specialised archers and cavalry. Also Abbeys, shrines and diggings for more economic and unit specialisation. The bifs are individualised for Muslim, Orthodox and Catholic factions where relevant. Let me know if you want any new bifs.
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Kali, send them here mate and i'll take a look:

shagrat60@hotmail.com

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Originally Posted by Meneldil

My brother and I are having problems too on 2 different computers.
An error seems to occur during certain battle, after selecting what we will do (call off the attack, attack manually or fight automatically).

It happened with the Novgorodian vs the Cuman in Volhonya in 1186
the Almohad vs the French in Sevilla in 1276

Each time we had to load and do something else than attacking, because it leads to another crash (I'm not using mercenaries)

Anyway, that's not quite a serious issue.

On a more pleasant point of view, when is the release of the final version scheduled for (yeah, I'm annoying with that question) ? What will you be adding in it (this one must be quite boring too, but I thought it was worth asking ~:p ) ?

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These errors are related to the shields/weapons placements of the new units.

How can that be if it isn't at the actual battle stage?

After having a look at these problems, I'd say that they aren't related to BKB's mod, but rather to a problem that happened with the quicksave.