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Edit: if it's an involuntary tiebreaker (like I had in the Simpsons game) it could only belong to Winston Hughes, since Ironhead was part of the Beefy-voting contingent on day one that ended up in a tie, and there was no hidden vote then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Winston, if it was you; or if any townie placed that vote voluntarily, I think you should comment about it somehow, in public or private.
JHT was lynched on that day, and turned out to be Otho. The current JHT is Tiberius' replacement, and shouldn't get any Town creds from his previous persona (Tiberius never posted).Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
If the hidden vote is scum, it would point toward Warman or Lord of Lent being Scum, since that vote saved them from a tie breaker, but we don't know anything about the hidden vote. And afaik it's the only Day we've seen one, but I'm thinking it may not appear unless it's relevant to the final result.
lol marshmallow fluff. I shall use this line and claim it as my own.
Vote: Warman
I am sorry beloved man of war,
You shall murder good Romans nevermore
It can't be a tiebreaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
It's clearly an extra vote here, "putting him into contention" for the council to decide. JHT, like Warman and Lord of Lent, was considered to have two votes (of course this tally was wrong, but we can make deduction from it. If it was a tiebreaker, JHT wouldn't appear with 2 votes).Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder
*headdesk* I'm an idiot, you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
Possible, which is why I brought up the possibility of an involuntary tiebreaker vote like I had in the Simpsons game. But that could only possibly belong to Winston Hughes, no one else. (And he should probably say so if it does.)Quote:
If the hidden vote is scum, it would point toward Warman or Lord of Lent being Scum, since that vote saved them from a tie breaker, but we don't know anything about the hidden vote. And afaik it's the only Day we've seen one, but I'm thinking it may not appear unless it's relevant to the final result.
If not him, then I have a hard time rationalizing a hidden vote being placed on JHTv1 over either of the other two players. The tie the previous day wasn't broken, why was this one? If anyone did have a good (town) reason for it, I suggest they find some way to make the fact public (through a proxy or however).
Right, so scratch the Winston Hughes hypothesis. What was the error regarding ATPG again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
Ironhead voted johnhughthom, not ATPG, on Day 2.
OK, so it clearly wasn't a tiebreaker of any kind (revealed by the original tally mistake) and probably had nothing to do with ATPG -- based on the the real vote count, which the person who placed this vote was probably aware of. The real vote count being, in the absence of the hidden vote, 2 warman, 2 jht, 2 LOL.
Want to go read yesterday again.
Scratch the question about Autolycus; I presume he was the doc.
Which could mean there's still a cop out there somewhere, eh scummers?Quote:
As Night fell Gaius Ofonius Tigellinus (Autolycus) sent out the orders for the Praetorian Guard to protect the houses of certain senators.
Yesterday begins with Ironhead's vote on Warman for his "severed head? Yucky!" comment that kicked off the day. Waaaay overjustified, I do agree, but the vote itself was solid. For his first comment all game that came *during* a voting period, that comment did smack rather a lot of scum.
Warman comes back immediately with an OMGUS (saying Ironhead was suspiciously quick to vote/maybe covering for someone, which is just silly compared to the better argument available about overjustifying. Doesn't help Warman's case).
Warman 1
Ironhead 1
I vote Lord of Lent. Dead Autolycus backs this up. Johnhughthom (v2) says the case is strong. Well I can't argue that too much considering it was my case, but still.
Warman 1
Ironhead 1
LoL 2
Winston votes ATPG. Based on things said today, presumably in large part due to Autolycus just having turned up dead. Secura makes the better argument against Ironhead.
Warman 1
Ironhead 2
LoL 2
ATPG 1
ATPG adds a comment-free vote to the LoL bandwagon, with most of the post consisting of an argument with WH. I still want to know what "what I've said and who I've said it to" refers to.
Warman 1
Ironhead 2
LoL 3
ATPG 1
Romanic says "ok, vote Warman". Romanic -- what was the OK referring to? At least with ATPG there was a clear case he was responding to in voting LoL, but this seems to come out of nowhere.
Scummy Lord of Lent then chimes in to tie it up. I still feel like arguing with him. 'Indeed'? Anyway.
Warman 3
Ironhead 2
LoL 3
ATPG 1
So now it's between the two beneficiaries of the hidden vote from the previous day. And NOBODY has brought that up. How bizarre.
Secura switches comment-free to LoL. Who was scummy enough to deserve it, but still.
Warman 3
Ironhead 1
LoL 4
ATPG 1
I think I'm changing my mind. With LoL's lack of obvious-scum role flip and the evidence of the hidden vote (which hopefully was placed for an actual purpose other than "get the townies to lynch these two guys back to back hardy-har"), plus Warman's behavior, I think it's worth lynching him to day, seeing what happens, and saving Romanic and others for tomorrow.
unvote, vote: Warman
I'm sitting on information, and it's not info that should be discussed publicly, and which gives us a slight advantage, IMO.Quote:
I still want to know what "what I've said and who I've said it to" refers to.
Not that everyone would agree, but hey. I'm a rebel like that.
This was my answer to Warman's previous postQuote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Quote:
Originally Posted by ELITEofKingWarman8
Why'd you vote him for it?
Because it was useless, and also because I wanted the tally to be close, not a runaway on Lord of Lent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
Round over prepare for write up
Nero strides forward once more with yet another poem to be read.
A little flower grew in a lonely Vale
Its form was lovely but its colours pale.
One standing in the Porches of the Sun
When his Meridian Glories were begun
Leaped from the steps of fire and on the grass
Alighted where this little Flower was.
With hands divine he moved the gentle Sod
And took the Flower up in its native clod
Then planting it upon a Mountain’s brow.
“Tis your own fault if you don’t flourish now."
He looks at the Senators and asks who is to be killed. They rise up with one voice Seneca (Warman) is to be the one that dies. Nero looks at Seneca his boyhood tutor, the man that taught him everything that he knew and says. "If you are involved in this conspiracy I shall say this I know it was you, Seneca. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!" With this Seneca stares back at Nero and says. "I am not involved in this plot whilst I have had misgivings about your reign who am I to kill you? A physician is not angry at the intemperance of a mad patient, nor does he take it ill to be railed at by a man in fever. Just so should a wise man treat all mankind, as a physician does his patient, and look upon them only as sick and extravagant. That is what you are, you are a sick man and you should not be killed but treated with kindness. I am the man who could do that. However due to your anger at me your anger has become an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured. I am a man of great wisdom and respect. All men of Rome should have listened to me and we would not be in such a mess. Nero if you continue to kill soon you will be left with a bunch of yesmen at you beck and call. They will not say a word when the knife comes to you. Head my warning Nero. With this Nero orders to guards to take the noble Seneca and throw him over the rock of Rome.
Warman (Seneca) is dead
With this morbid business done the Senate is opened to new business. A messenger arrives from Britain stating that a revolution has once again sprung up Gaius Suetonius Paulinus (Yaropolk) stands up and turns to Nero asking if he can return to his province. Nero nods saying I am sure of your innocence in these matters you may return.
Gaius Suetonius Paulinus (Yaropolk) has returned to Britain
The extra vote was indeed mine. I was also the one to point out the error to Captain Blackadder, resulting in jht's lynch.
I should also clarify that pizza was not told (by me, at least) that Autolycus was a power role. The gist of what I said was that Auto did not strike me as scummy. However, my feeling is that I rather overplayed the attempt to get pizza's vote off Auto, and thus tipped him to the fact that Auto was somebody important.
Fabulous timing. Why did you place the extra vote?
No. I have not been paying close enough attention for this to be valid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Now, special role, if you'd kindly use your power tonight so that we can verify you and move on, thank you.
As night falls one more time over Rome another figure is to die this one is more famous then all the others that came before it. The plotters feel confident that they can strike at will destroying all who question them. In this case they will be shown to be correct. They enter the golden palace of Nero moving quietly in this house of the man that they hate the most. They enter the bedchamber of Nero and move to kill him but just before one of the men moves to stab Nero Piso motions for him to stop and come over to him. They have a quiet conversation in the next room. Piso begins
"Why bother killing Nero now when he has suffered little? We need to make him suffer as he has made the people of Rome suffer." The other plotters nod as comprehension comes over their faces. They return to the room of Nero again pulling out their knives but this time they lean over to the figure sleeping next to Nero and in one quick motion slit her throat. The then write a message in her blood on the wall.
We can get you any time we wish. There is nothing you can do to prevent the return of the republic. Your time is at an end Nero. Prepare yourself for you life will soon run between our hands."
The next morning Nero's fury cannot be contained and he orders 200 Christians killed to improve his mood. This does not help. He strides into the Senate house and tells all gathered there.
We must begin to kill those plotters who wish to destroy the Empire find them now before it is too late.
Poppaea Augusta Sabina (Winston Hughes) is dead
I can see my pleas were ignored.
Unless I get an explanation, I will be forced to vote for you this round. Contact me ASAP, or I will reveal you simply because I do not have a better lead and you're not being cooperative.
So what is this about? A special role who didn't use his power tonight to prove his private claim to you?
It's an unusual circumstance where the person is extremely suspicious, even if they use their power, but at least their power would seem to lend heavy evidence that they are not the main mafia. The request was pretty simple, straightforward, and easy to accomplish. And, it would have even gotten rid of me as a suspect. Instead, I see no cooperation. I'd be inclined to just vote for this person now, but I have a preference for doing things this way when possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romanic
vote: Romanic
As per Renata's arguments, really; an active player list would be nice though, Cap.
I agree with Secura, a list of the living would be useful.
Vote: Romanic
You are scum.
Bah Renata's case on me is nothing. You're picking on the easy target.
Yesterday we lynched Seneca last night (Warman), according to Wikipedia he was one implicated in the plot, and was executed for it:
I'd be more interested to look at those who didn't vote for him yesterday: Chimpyang, Ironhead, Johnhughthom and robbiecon.Quote:
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After the conspiracy was revealed, Nero ordered Piso and its leaders to commit suicide. The philosopher Seneca, the poet Marcus Annaeus Lucanus, and the satirist Petronius were also implicated in the plot and dealt with in a similar fashion.
[...]
Executed or forced to commit suicide
Piso, Plautius Lateranus, Lucan, Afranius Quintianus, Flavius Scaevinus, Claudius Senecio, Vulcatius Araricus, Julius Augurinus, Munatius Gratus, Marcius Festus, Faenius Rufus, Subrius Flavus, Sulpicius Asper, Maximus Scaurus, Venetus Paulus, Epicharis, Seneca the Younger, Antonia, Marcus Vestinus Atticus
Pizza, you should give us more details about that information you were talking about. Is this person one of those who didn't vote Warman?
Dead (8)
Skooma Addict - Vitellius - Killed Night 1
johnhughthom - Marcus Salvius Otho - Lynched Day 2
autolycus - Gaius Ofonius Tigellinus - Killed Night 2
Lord of Lent - Gaius Licinius Mucianus - Lynched Day 3
Renata - Gaius Musonius Rufus - Killed Night 3
Warman - Seneca - Lynched Day 4
Winston Hughes - Poppaea Augusta Sabina - Killed Night 4
Yaropolk - Gaius Suetonius Paulinus - WOGed Night 4
Alive (8)
ATPG
Chimpyang
Ironhead
johnhughthom 2 (replaced Tiberius)
robbiecon
Romanic
Secura
Skooma Addict 2 (replaced Beefy)
Tally = scumQuote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
I posted a player list, not a tally. :smug2:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom