RTW Bugs

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Originally Posted by barocca

>>taking a city (1)

the total population of the city is NOT shown when you have to decide what to do with the population
(occupy/enslave/exterminate)

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Yes, this is a little annoying, but you can easily work it out. Enslave removes half the population, whilst exterminating kills three quarters. So if it says that 10,000 are to be enslaved, the city has 20,000 people!

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Originally Posted by barocca

>>diplomacy

not all options are always available in diplomacy,
i always check when this occurs to make sure "character" i am negotiating with is definately NOT the faction leader or heir. (both of whom are unbribable).
The instances i am referring to here the character is not heir or leader.

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To bribe, apparently, you need a certain amount of Denarii in your treasury (2000), according to the readme at least. Also, more generally, other diplomatic options might not be available for specific reasons. For instance, you can't ask an ally to become a protectorate, or indeed (as a Roman) try to ally with a faction at war with one of your fellow Romans, before the civil war breaks out anyway.

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Originally Posted by barocca

>>agents

cannot dismiss agents from service.
if you get stuck with a bad one, you are stuck with him till he dies of old age.

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I've never had a "bad one", mine always start from 1-3 in natural ability. Plus you can always just get assassins/spies killed by giving them impossible tasks, such as infiltrating a cities protected by a high valour spy, or attempting to assassinate a faction leader. Diplomats are a little harder to get rid off. If you've spotted an enemy assassin, you could coax him to attack. Or you could just use him for bribing rebels, as "influence" doesn't seem to have much influence of the success or failure of the transaction. But I get your point.

>>cannot take screenshots

printscreen does NOT take screenshots on my system,
the TGA is created but all i get is a black picture, totally black
(turning off anti-aliasing failed to resolve this)
(changing key assignement failed to resolve this)

>>options-control setting-battle menu

when you scroll down the last line of options, (toggle game speed), is half obscured.



attn. therother

the total population is not shown,
having to do a quick calcualtion in my head does not count as "showing the total population"


i know how to bribe and trust me i have enough in my treasury,
sometimes a single ai character who is niether heir nor leader cannot be bribed.
also your comment "or indeed (as a Roman) try to ally with a faction at war with one of your fellow Romans" is not accurate.
You CAN ally with a faction at war with another roman faction,
an automatic ceasefire is imposed on the other roman faction.
AT LEAST for Gaul, will check on the others and see what happens
- if you can ally with all then i will NOT be replying again,
- if you cannot ally with all then i will try to work out which factions you can and which you cannot.


I dont want to have to assasinate or suicide my agents,
i want to be able to dismiss them from service.

>>disband

mercenary units cannot always be disbanded,
the "disband" sound plays, but the unit remains in your army.

i have disbanded some merc's, but some flatly refuse to disband,
i will attmept to work out the conditions that allow/disallow and also if it is specific units that cannot disband.
I suspect they have to be in a home territory, just like regular troops,
when that is NOT supposed to be the case,
you are supposed to be able to disband them whenever you want to.

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Originally Posted by barocca

the total population is not shown, having to do a quick calcualtion in my head does not count as "showing the total population".

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Well, yes, but is that a bug?

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Originally Posted by barocca

i know how to bribe and trust me i have enough in my treasury, sometimes a single ai character who is niether heir nor leader cannot be bribed.

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I've never had the problem, and I've bribed a lot of family members. Do you mean the bribe doesn't show up as an option, or that he'll never accept? Is it only if he is on his own?

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Originally Posted by barocca

also your comment "or indeed (as a Roman) try to ally with a faction at war with one of your fellow Romans" is not accurate.

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You are absolutely right, I've done it myself. I apologise. But regardless, there are certain options that are not available under certain circumstances by design. Could you give some brief details of what options were not available and the circumstances?

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Originally Posted by barocca

I dont want to have to assasinate or suicide my agents, i want to be able to dismiss them from service.

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Again, is that a bug or just something that annoys you? Do you want to be able to disown family members as well, given that they cost at least twice the Denarii a turn (200+bodyguard, IIRC)?

knowing the total population without having to do a quick sum in your head is a feature that should be in the game,
i consider the fact it is not in the game a bug/omission.

you telling me you cant fire your butler if he is a fool?
if my diplomat is no longer usefull i dont want to have to keep paying him,
i want to fire him.
the fact i cannot is a bug/omission.

If i want to get rid of a family member i assassinate him.

bribe - you cannot always bribe other faction family members even if they are definately NOT the faction leader or the faction heir.
The bribe option does not appear.


>> wardogs pathing on battle map

they can get hung up trying to get through a breach in the wall,
they always seem to try the shortest route to an enemy, even if that shortest route is through a gate that is NOT open.


>> recalling wardogs

no option or method exists to call back the wardogs
(in cases such as above they will stand snarling at the gate until an enemy unit elects to open it for you - not likely!)


>> towers

even after "taking the walls" the towers will resume firing if the first unit through the "breach" withdraws from the town. You may still have other units within the walls, it seems the first infantry unit through is the one that matters.

Itsonly a little thing but when I captured the wonder- statue of zeus the movie's music was out of synch and jittery.

I have a high end machine and have had no CTD or any other problems yet, which makes me think there might be a problem here.

Just expereinced a weird result at the end of a seige.

Admittedly it was a close run thing.

The timer was running out and the enemy only had to hold the town centre for 3:00 minutes to win. However, they had no troops guarding it and so I sent a unit of Auxilaries to capture it before the time ran out.

They arrived with just 7 seconds to go.

The flag changed to my colour the counter reset to 3:00 minutes and I began rushing reinforcements to back up the Auxilaries in anticipation of a counter attack.

Suddenly a few seconds later the game ends and the enemy are awarded victory.

Not quite right.

i have discovered a strange siege bug, i have attacked the gauls with the brutii. ive build a battering ram when the battle launched and the battering ram moved a bit it completly disappeared with the whole unit.
ive tried it again with a previous save game but this time only one soldiers stay with the ram symbol on the unit icon but the ram was not visible.

another siege bug is this ive got a full stack of units when i siege a city ive build several ladders rams etc.
they dont appear in the battle then im standing with a giant army on the battlefield and can do nothing.

Does anyone have a problem with mouse in the strategic map or in the battle? It start to be anoying, cause every couple of minutes, sometimes with no move mouse pointer go wild and goes to the corner of the screen and anything is impossible to do. Also it?s affect to the desktop too, so I must restart the computer imediately. Bassically I can?t play anymore. First it was started couple of times, but now so often.
I have a XP with service pack 1 build in it, 2GHz, ATI 9200 SE 128 MB, 256 MB DDR.
Is there any patch for this?
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Not sure if this is a bug or not, but I've come across another way to deal with AI sieges in a cheesy fashion. That is, if the walls are wooden or lower. Playing as the Germans, I stuck some of their phalanx-type men right up close to the walls and gate, where the AI rams were going to come in. It appears the spears are long enough to reach through the walls and kill the first two men holding the ram. They will either be replaced, and killed, or the ram will be dropped, and the whole unit run in to attempt hand-to-hand combat. Which is completely ineffective on their part, due to the wall in the way. Either way, no breach is made, and the enemy soldiers end up dead. The AI will also handily replace the ram-handlers when they are annihilated, so the meat-grinded will continue.

not positive if this is a bug or if it is supposed to happen but...
I was using the war dogs against the carthaginians and as I watched the dogs chase down the men they were at 47 and 43 out of 48, I checked on my other men and when I glanced back at the dogs one was at 47 and the other 11. I wasnt sure how this happened because the men were routing but hey it happens, but then when the battle ended I was back to 43... Do the dogs run away and come back or something whats the deal?

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Originally Posted by soibean

Do the dogs run away and come back or something whats the deal?

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As long as the handlers survive each one will breed new dogs to replace battle loss, (max of 4 per man.) This makes them ideal fire and forget missiles ~D

Something I've experienced a few times already and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
You chase an unit on the battle map. They retreat without initiating a fight. The "treat increase" icon appears on the left of the screen. Sadly it is not a treat increase but the commanding general now has the "good runner" vice. :huh:
I have had a few high-star generals (superb commanders and such) who became also good runners that way.

I suppose it's the retreating AI general that should get this vice, as that's the one who ran away, right?

sheesh, every day that i have time to play RTW i find some more....



>>Testudo and Grouping

units assigned testudo while in a group can get stuck in that formation and refuse to change back to standard


>>Vanishing Units in Seige

I sent 2 rams against the gate at the town of Cordoba (one then another when the first vanished)
there is a small mound near the gate, (i approached from the North)
as both rams approached the mound they and the units manning them vanished from the map!!!
The units were back in the army once back on the campaign map.


>>Generals, location and status

the ONLY way i have found to bring up this scroll is
:- go to a town you control and open the CONSTRUCTION Window,
then right-click on the army tab!
This scroll SHOULD be accessible from the Faction Menu but i have found no other way to bring it up.


>> end of turn recruitment scrolls

when you click on either the up or own arrow you immediatly go to the very bottom or very top of the scroll,
in other "reports" clicking the up or down arrows moves you one record up or down

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>>Generals, location and status

the ONLY way i have found to bring up this scroll is
:- go to a town you control and open the CONSTRUCTION Window,
then right-click on the army tab!
This scroll SHOULD be accessible from the Faction Menu but i have found no other way to bring it up.

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Judging from the responses I've read in the thread "Right-Click on the Control Panel" (at the Colosseum), the majority aren't aware of this. You can just right click onto the tabs and you get the collection of your Generals and Agents. Is that what you're looking for? ~:)

Strategic AI and Rebels/Brigands - I'm in the middle of three different campaigns on Hard/Hard and I have noticed that enemy armies generally seem to refrain from attacking rebel/brigand armies that are blocking the paths leading to my cities! This is especially odd considering that these enemy armies often outnumber said rebel/brigand armies by a substantial margin! For what it's worth these rebel/brigand armies that pose such a problem for enemy armies are always in my territory. I have NEVER seen an enemy army attack a rebel/brigand unit in my territory that is blocking its path. If there is no way around these rebel/brigand blockades (and their zones of control) the AI army simply sits there for a few turns until it changes it mind and heads home. Rarely have I seen an enemy army seek an alternative route.

in the prologue, the mini map is stuffed up. the whole square has italy on it, but in the top left hand corner (exactly one quarter) is a smaller map showing faction controlled areas... and this is with the first patch installed

>>Archer Auxilla and walls

the Velites alongside them can throw their spears over the walls at the defenders,
and the defenders are firing over the walls onto the Archer Auxilla,
BUT the Archer Auxilla cannot fire over the walls UNTIL the gate or wall is breached!!!

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Originally Posted by Quietus

Judging from the responses I've read in the thread "Right-Click on the Control Panel" (at the Colosseum), the majority aren't aware of this. You can just right click onto the tabs and you get the collection of your Generals and Agents. Is that what you're looking for? ~:)

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oki - seems i have an intermittent bug, may be something to do with my wireless setup,

this should still be reachable from the faction menu though,
otherwise you have to select a town and use right click on any of the menu's.

I've noticed that when used on the battlefield Onagars inflict significantly more casualties on the enemy when set to hurl fireballs than rocks.

I now always set them to hurl fireballs as this can sometimes eliminate several ranks and files of the target unit in a single hit, whereas rocks may only kill two or three men.

This is the direct opposite of the explaination given for the use of fireballs which states that fireballs are less effective but have a higher morale effect.

>> AI controlled armies in seige and sally situations

I have an "auxilliary" army (led by a captain) seiging a city,
my Real army arrives and joins the siege, they will be building seige equipment this turn and attacking the next,

and then Enemy sally out attacking my Captains Army...

So, I have my Captain (who i get to control) with a ram or two,
and my General (ai controlled) and all his crack troops have nothing,

So what does my General Do?
He marches up to the walls and stands there, getting himself and all my crack troops shot to pieces,

then He realises i have made a breach in the wall,
so he marches, not runs, but marches his entire army around the walls to my "breach"
- if any of them are left alive after they casually saunter past all the enemy towers and missile troops then they run for it as soon as someone points a finger at them...

if i elect to withdraw on the campaign map i automatically lose almost, if not all of, the units to desertion and "casualties".



If I choose to use the Captain to initiate an attack, thats because i want both armies on the field,
in that instance I am electing to use both armies and have the AI control the General's Forces.

But if the AI initiates the attack i should get to choose who I want to personally command...

The worst bug I have ever experienced so far

I have the game on pause right now. This bug is so annoying I had to post it immediately.

I am beseiging a city right now. The only seige equipment I have is 2 Seige towers. Every unit that goes through it has the same issue. The tower deploys fine. But, when the men try to run across the platform onto the wall, they all fall like it wasn't deployed close enough. Every unit. So I basically just had 10 Legionary Cohorts commit suicide trying to get onto the wall.

Hmm...nice. ~:confused:

Just tried the battle again. Same thing! ~:(

Last Edit: Ok, I have managed to get units onto the wall. But...they 'at first' will fall off and die. I have to then select the unit, and double click on the wall again, and they will kinda drop onto it. But, trying to attack a unit isn't done for a little bit. I'm being absolutely killed because of it.

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What kind of walls does the city have? Is this the only city where you've seen this siege tower bug happen?

Either there is a pathfinding or positioning issue with siege towers and certain types of walls or the terrain in front of the wall is not perfectly flat (I assume it should be).

sorry, i haven't read all the other posts in this thread (i have better things to do!), so if this has already been posted, i apologise.

Bug:

If transferring troops from ship to city, using the pop-up transfer window, any action causes the game to close to desktop imediately.

Luckily, the previous turn has been saved, but annoying all the same.

Not sure if this is a bug, but I've never had a naval commander get a command star from winning a battle. Ever. I've had zero star commanders win 3, 4 even 5 battles and get nothing.

If this is working as intended, then CA needs to allow us to assign heirs to navies and let them get stars for it. As it is, no one seems to be able to become a good admiral and naval battles become too indecisive. The naval combat is the one area where we really have no control over the battle, and this just makes the situation worse.

Bug:

Units with very good stamina tire faster than units with good stamina and units with good stamina tire faster than regular units.

Just the opposite it should be.

Sorry if it was mentioned before. I just noticed this bug on Macedonian Royal Pikemen:

http://img58.exs.cx/img58/5729/bug5.th.jpg

I've had some trouble with Elephants.

It states that i have say 2 or 0 maybe as i go into battle - when i get into the battle map and i start to deploy more to the left or forward i realise the elephant is now definately 0. You can select the unit but nothing appears when you right click when deploying.

In one battle i was doing badly as carthaginians and had a 0 elephant unit, things were so bad that i tried to use the unit by selecting it and right clicking on an enemy. It crashed to desktop ~:)

Julii-H/H Large Units, Latest Nvidia drivers

Killed a rebel army, went back to the campaign screen and my entire campaign terrian was black. Units, Cities, and some trade goods still showed, but no terrain showed. I reloaded, and it was dark, shut down and reloaded twice more and the terrain was back. Seiged a Gaul town for two turns while the campaign terrain was dark, assaulted and the terrain came back again.

sometimes my pc completly reboot in the middle of a battle ~:pissed:
and sometimes on the strat map
in my current game it happened every time in the middle of a battle my pc REBOOT GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
after the reboot win xp pop a message a fatal error occurs!

the most crashes are in the year 233bc


SORRY CA
i have solved the problem, i have only installed the newest driver(soundchip, graphic card, and winxp) on my pc hehe now no more crashes!!! ~D