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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
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Originally Posted by econ21
This may be one for
DDW, but could we play this mod with the BI exe?
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...t=58291&page=1
I am not sure I follow the instructions, but so far as I can tell, they seem to involve just altering your BI shortcut.
I'm assuming the savegames are still usable by those without BI and that we would not have to alter any other files, but those are just assumptions.
The main benefit mentioned is that the AI is more aggressive in terms of naval invasions (Carthage trying to get its Iberian provinces back), which would be timely given our situation.
Maybe
DDW can look into it?
It is rather unclear what this is about and the downloadlink is a dead link. BI 1.6 is supposed to be better at naval invasions, but we can alter that ourselves by editing the descr_strat.txt file. As I am not quite sure what this thread is talking about, I' m going to recommend against using this.
However, it might be worthwhile to look into the descr_strat.txt file.
We will not implement stuff that that only works if you have BI.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Ok, let's forget the BI.exe idea - the descr_strat file is only read at the start of a campaign anway.
I guess if Carthage is passive and does not try sea invasions, there will be compensation that it will be pretty pumped up by the time we land in Africa.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Y'know, I wouldn't count on them being too passive, at least based on my current campaigns experience. Carthage was in the struggle for Iberia and was eventually kicked out, then before I knew it, somehow they had invaded and taken over all of Iberia in a matter of a few years. I'm pretty sure they were completely kicked out before that major invasion. They took the whole peninsula and kept moving north and east. Pretty interesting stuff. Of course, once they attacked my troops around Massilia, I had to wipe them out :2thumbsup: . So I suppose they have the capability to invade and do what they gotta do, hopefully they'll do so in our game.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Frankly, I wouldn't mind a superpower Carthage in the game. The situation with them game-wise is playing out pretty much historically with them losing their islands in the Mediterranean (pay no attention to the fact that Numidia no longer exists and that they have no Iberian territories).
I'd love to see terror in Rome due to the fact that the Carthies have brought, say, 3 full-stacks to Italy. :evil:
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
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Originally Posted by Braden
Having been on holiday for a week, I won't even attempt to try and catch up on the OOC happenings here but….
….I normally play on M/VH settings but I don’t know what the effect of these settings will have on the RTR mod we’re using.
…..My task for this week is to try and download ALL the mods (have two so far). This is a major task as we all know. After this, I’ll install them and have a go at the game itself (may limit myself to playing some custom battles) so I’m farmilar with it.
THEN….I can join the lower house!! Yay!
(now to get caught up with all the IC discussions)
I struggled with that issue too, if you can't find one or the other I can send them to you. I saved them for this reason. :2thumbsup:
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Senate Zip files?
(BTW - thanks for the offer of assistance Lucjan)
I should have all the files downloaded by the end of tomorrow – I have managed three files today and will finish the rest tomorrow but I have a question.
On the files I’ve downloaded today, I’ve had to rename them. I’ve manually added “.zip” on the end of the file name as they weren’t recognised by the computer otherwise.
Obviously, my question relates to this really – Was I wrong in renaming them? If I retain the new names will they not unzip correctly for example.
Tonight I have WoW updates to install so haven't the bandwidith to spare :wall:
Edit: Just realised that joining the lower house will mean the retirement of good old Decius Curtius......will be a sad day but fitting seeing as he's getting old now.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
All I'd like to add is that I believe we should keep the autoresolve rule non-LH generals. Defeats make the game so much more interesting.
And the "force peace if there are no land battles for 10 years" is an interesting proposal.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
I definately think non-LH senator battles should be autoresolved. It won't be cool for RP to suddenly play a different character for one battle. I'm also for the forced peace after some time, but I think 10 years is a bit too long. 5 years without hostilities is the entire length of a Consul's reign, and a long enough amount of time to consider peace I think.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
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Originally Posted by Braden
On the files I’ve downloaded today, I’ve had to rename them. I’ve manually added “.zip” on the end of the file name as they weren’t recognised by the computer otherwise.
Obviously, my question relates to this really – Was I wrong in renaming them? If I retain the new names will they not unzip correctly for example.
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All files are 76 MB. The last one is 16 MB (Total : 76 * 6 + 16 = 472 MB).
The files have been zipped with WinZip, but any decent extractor will suffice I expect. The files are actually one (1) big zip file split into many parts. You need only unzip the file marked .zip (senate.zip) and it will unzip the other files. So just select the senate.zip file, right-click, and select ''extract to...'' and create a senate folder (or whatever).
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Yes, you were wrong in renaming them. If you have all the files in one folder and use WinZip to unzip the senate.zip file, it will automatically unzip all the others. It is actually one (1) big zip file split into many parts. Just follow the above instructions exactly and it should work. The other files should be called senate.z01, senate.z02, etc...
Good luck :2thumbsup:
Takes me back to the good old 1.44 MB disk days...
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Ok, will remove the ".zip" suffix I've added to the files apart from the main Senate.zip (which I haven't touched).
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
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Originally Posted by Braden
Ok, will remove the ".zip" suffix I've added to the files apart from the main Senate.zip (which I haven't touched).
The renamed zip files need to be given thier original .z01, .z02, etc extension or it will not work.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Yeah. All I'd done was add .zip on the end of the file extensions so I've removed that now leaving the extension name as was downloaded.
Good news, I have all of the files now on CD. Fingers crossed I can install it all correctly and get a working version of our Mod this week.
More WoW downloads tonight so no free PC time........again. *sniff*
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
This looks like fun. I'll need to figure out a gaming comp here sooner or later. :2thumbsup:
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Even if you can't play DA, you can still join as an upper house senator. This means you get to debate whats going on and propose and vote on motions in the Senate Deliberations thread.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
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Originally Posted by Eclectic
This looks like fun. I'll need to figure out a gaming comp here sooner or later. :2thumbsup:
- I've had many weeks of fun just debating and making laws in this campaign. I highly recommend it if only for its ability to include even those unable or not willing to actively play the in-game campaign.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Braden if your cd doesn't work I have a single file format for each of the mods you need, eliminating the headache of those seperated zip files.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
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Originally Posted by Lucjan
Braden if your cd doesn't work I have a single file format for each of the mods you need, eliminating the headache of those seperated zip files.
Thanks, I’ll PM you if I have a problem and need those files.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Just for fun and RP, is there anyway to trigger a disaster, somewhere near where Galerius Vatinius is? I mean after the comment he makes in the Senate, the Gods should have some reaction right?
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Hilarious idea, but I don't think that is possible :laugh4:
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Ok, can I just say "Oh feck the Gods are angry at ME!".....seems my computer woes are not fixed. The PC runs ok and will surf the net but freezes in games....any game...*sniff*....how utterly hacked off I am now! Just a Knats whisker from joining the lower house and I find my problems haven't been sorted.
.....anyone want a Geforce 6200 graphics card? (gotta laugh or I'll cry! No, actually, I will go and cry.)
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Can't say I do, but for $75 American and shipping I'll send you my radeon x1300pro. I've been looking to upgrade to a x1600, but don't want to lose all the cash I spent on the x1300 only two months ago.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Mount Suribachi, that is easily the funniest thing I have read in a long, long time.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Excellent write-up, TinCow! :2thumbsup:
I wonder, is there any in-game representation of the rescue of an eagle? I know Publius got the "disgraced" trait for losing it (very characterful) and recall from the WRE PBM you can get a nice trait for taking an enemy one.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Yes, if you are the one that lost it that is. Then you are slightly redeemed or something. If you manage to bag another one, your are partly redeemed or something. But the stain never wears off...
Non-roman faction, I think only barbarains ones, get eagle taker and upwards.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
I did not see any pop-up or other indication of any kind that the Eagle had been retaken. Verginius did not get a trait either.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
TinCow, that was an excellent battle report, I absolutely loved it. Wowee.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Following from Lucjan's now deleted suggestions, I have been wondering about giving governors more power. Could we let them set the build order for "their" city or cities? The First Consul would not have to authorise the funds, but if anything was to be built, it would be what the governor decides. The main benefit is giving non-reigning players a little bit more to do, perhaps getting the Upper House Senators more involved in the PBM again. It might also give older Lower House Senators something to do in retirement. The cost would be that the First Consul would have to liase with them on what was built, what could be built & they may not agree. This could be done once every Senate session. If the relevant player does not respond (e.g. within 48 hours), then the First Consul can do what they like.
Essentially, we would be formalising the roles of each character more. In the first Consul's report, we could have a table with each character's name and their assignment. Possible assignments would be:
Student
Commander - ideally of a named formation (Legio, Field Army)
Sub-commander - second general of a named formation
City governor - runs one city
Provincial governor - runs a group of cities (e.g. Sicily; Greece etc)
The table might also include the intended task for the next 10 turns - ie build orders for cities; destination/area of operation for military formations.
We seem to have already moved to formalising military roles; I am basically proposing creating some civilian equivalents. Formalising the roles might make the characters more significant and open up more scope for politicking (Senators will start to lobby for funds for their provinces etc). It might also make the job of being Consul more interesting, as you have to consider the wishes of other players and think in terms of long term assignments, rather than just moving avatars around willy-nilly from turn to turn.
The Provincial governor idea is that as the Republic grows, we might be able to mark out large chunks of territory that could be handed over to senior Senators to manage. For example, at the end of this reign, we will have four aging "super" ex-Consuls (DDW, TinCow, FLYdude & Pansa) with very high influence. While individuals might be elected Consul again, during that time the others should probably be given some juicy responsibilities. For example, if it were conquered, Verginius could be given Gaul to manage (god help the Gauls). A provincial governor might also become a commander in the event that their "province" was invaded etc. Provincial governorships may be best suited to lower House members as they can load up savegames and meaningfully explore build options for a number of settlements.
I'll let DDW and/or Mount Suribachi decide whether they want try something for the second half of their reign. I would give it a go if I ever got elected.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
Very interesting ideas econ. If possible to do without making turns too long, I'm all for them.
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
That's worrying TinCow, normally a popup would tell you that you've retaken the Eagle......could just be a glitch but we ought to check that the Eagle hasn't been "spirited away" somewhere else.
Also, ONE lousy experience upgrade to the Princeps for killing 370 foes!! What's that all about??
I would have expected a tad more for a kill ratio of 52.8 : 1 - wouldn't you?
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Re: The Will of the Senate - out of character thread III
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Originally Posted by Lucjan
Can't say I do, but for $75 American and shipping I'll send you my radeon x1300pro. I've been looking to upgrade to a x1600, but don't want to lose all the cash I spent on the x1300 only two months ago.
I have a Sapphire Radeon X700pro and I've been very impressed with it, good value too at £100 a year ago. I'd definately get another in the range if and when I upgrade
TinCow, outstanding write-up. Love the way you sent in a single cohort to take on the Gauls ~:)