Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia [Concluded]

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. Zalmoxis had been up all night, realizing he wouldn't be able to sleep with the threat of an impending mafia attack. So, he grabbed some popcorn, his favorite couch, and began watching the show "Cops." The one where police actually bothered to catch criminals, instead of just letting the town hopefully select who they thought did it.

This had been going on all night, so Zal's senses were not up their usual standards, being deprived of sleep. So, even as someone made the noises associated with sneaking in a house, Zal still was fixed on the TV, not noticing anything.

He also did not notice the creaking of the floor (which the mafioso silently cursed him for) and the breathing of the intruder when he got really close to Zal's location.

"Good show you're watching."

That finally got Zal's attention. He turned around, startled, and the last thing he saw was a shower of bullets from a semi-automatic rifle. Future owners of the couch could never quite get the bloodstain out. That was a shame, for it was quite a lovely couch, too.

The mafioso, however, was not concerned with the couch. He directed his attention on two things that lied adjacent to it, namely Zalmoxis's briefcase and laptop. The mafioso peered into the briefcase, as if making sure that everything was there, and departed the house, taking the laptop and briefcase with him.

Around the same time, the owner of the bulls that had crushed UltraWar to death was busy finishing their slaughter. It was really the most humane thing to do, as the tumble into the hole had broken most of their legs.

The bull meat (which was delicious) was delivered anonymously to the Frontroom Market, and the majority of the villagers were soon feasting on the incredibly cheap but still delicious meat for lunch. Orb was one of those people, who had picked the meat up and was now eating it back at his house.

"Well, it doesn't feel as good as lynching that killer, but it feels good to eat those darn bulls," Orb said to himself. He talked to himself because he thought that he was the only one in the house. Unfortunately for him, he was dead wrong.

"Orb, do you like meat?"

That was not a friendly voice. Orb stiffened. "Who's there?" he asked, rather alarmed. However, the only answer he received was a sharp rap on the head and a wave of unconsciousness coming over him.

He awoke in what appeared to be a stable, though it was rather dark. Orb noticed that he was surrounded by chickens. Lots of them. They seemed menacing, which was odd for chickens, but they also made their way as a smiling mafioso stepped through to face Orb.

"No red meat on the menu today," the mafioso said, still smiling. "Today we'll have chicken."

Orb suddenly noticed he was covered in cereal.

"Those animals are hungry my friend. They haven't had food for several days now."

Orb shuddered. He tried to move, but realized that he was immobilized, somehow. Meanwhile, the chickens saw the food they so desired. They moved in on their prey, and started pecking away. By the time they were finished, Orb's body was barely recognizable.

"Finger lickin' good!" the mafioso said, grinning.

Later that day, Chief of Police Beirut gathered the remaining villagers in the town center to make another announcement. He seemed much grimmer than the day before.

"Gentlemen," he began, "It would seem that the mafia are still active. So it looks like you're going to have to take another vote. I hope that you make the right choice."

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Still alive: (30)
Kagemusha
Sasaki Kojiro
discovery1
Xiahou
Stig
Fenring
Lord Motep of Kendermore
Sir Boo
Ichigo
Pannonian
Crazed Rabbit
Redleg
Reenk Roink
JimBob
pevergreen
Ignoramus
CountArach
Rythmic
ByzantineKnight
Warluster
AndresTheCunning
sapi
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Sir Moody
Seamus Fermanagh
Dutch_guy
Caius Flaminius
Destroyer of Hope
ChuggtheSquirrel
Kommodus

Killed:
UltraWar
Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot
Zalmoxis
Orb

Executed:
HughTower

Well since no one else has posted or voted since the death report. Are we waiting on the write up from GH, or what?


Do get the discussion going again.

Vote:Ichigo

For multiple changes in vote during the last lynch

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

@Reenk: don't make a fuss over discussion comments. For example, the above comment directed towards Caius is not an accusation, it's a simple question. He answers, and this helps us get a read on him. I suspect you're just trying to not appear inconsistant with your loki character however.

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I will make a fuss over things that hurt the town. Questions can be accusations. Your "suspicion" on me is an accusation. Now, there is nothing inherently wrong with accusations, it is just when they have weak or no substance behind them when they are called out.

Many of your arguments against others have been based on weak premises and unsound. Some have been outright invalid. Ample evidence exists for both cases, and has been provided in the past.

On my "Loki character". I was given a role with certain tasks to carry out. I fulfilled those tasks. In fact, I am very inconsistent with my Loki character in this game. However, an inconsistent character is an inconsistent character. Nothing more, nothing less. Given my circumstances, it is wholly acceptable to be inconsistent from last game.

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Originally Posted by Destroyer of Hope

Your reason for voting for Sasaki was that he is a bad townie, not suspious. Such a vote to lynch a bad townie is a waste as it gives us one last chance at lynching a mafiosto. At the very least you are hurting the town, at the worst you are trying to get rid of a valuable player. And such is at the very least a warrent for a vote.

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You seem to think that Sasaki Kojiro is a valuable player. I disagree, and have given examples to back up my opinion. You have not given any examples to back up your opinion and have not addressed any of my examples which counter your opinion. Given all of this, I will not reform my stance, and I will still hold your stance to be incorrect.

You also must read my posts more carefully. I pointed out that Sasaki Kojiro was suspicious as well. Also, I believe lynching a bad townie is a good course of action when there is not much in way of suspicious. It is better than a vote against Hughtower.

You kind of contradict yourself when you give your reasons for lynching me. They are indeed the same reasons I gave for lynching Sasaki Kojiro, which you first said to be a "waste". You are being inconsistent within the game itself. That never is a good sign...

Vote: Destroyer of Hope

I also just reread some of the thread and caught this gem:

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Helped me identify Reenk. I don't think it's bad as a discussion starter. Used to be someone would mention something from the kills and everyone would jump on the wagon. Nowadays it just starts people talking.

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You actually did not identify me at all. It was Kommodus who first drew the heat on me. You just jumped on his bandwagon. By the end, I had convinced Kommodus and many other townies of my detective status. The vote to lynch me was very close and I actually chose to get lynched by myself.

I lost 3-2 in that lynch round. The people who voted for me were Crazed Rabbit, Xiahou, and Seamus Fermanagh (my own partner who I instructed to do so). I did not vote that round. Had I and Seamus Fermanagh voted differently, I would have remained alive and survived the onslaught of Kommodus' and your suspicion.

Again, you did not do much for the town that game except get the detective killed (Banquo's Ghost) and get duped by a Mafia (me). You actually were one of our Mafia's most helpful players. :wink:

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Originally Posted by Redleg

Well since no one else has posted or voted since the death report.

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I think this games suffers from competition with the Midgard Saga.

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

AHA!!!

So I hit home with my patronising... I guess you don't like being called stupid in public mafioso.
I guess the old ruse tactic still works.

unvote: pevergreen, vote: HughTower

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The "I guess you don't like being called stupid mafioso" looks like some strange reasoning. Sigurd didn't give an explanation why he voted pevergreen in the first place, with the exception of "I know it's a shameless bandwagon, but he is one of the younger players"... The vote for HughTower had no particular reason either. I'm curious and I want a decent explanation.

On the other hand, I like to know why Redleg and pevergreen added there votes to Ichigo's "traditional" Sasaki-vote. It resulted in three votes for a player who always manages to get discussion started at the beginning of the game. Three votes = a possible lynching if participation stays low.

For now, I stick to my first vote for Sigurd, but I'll keep watching pevergreen and Redleg.

And I didn't forget about Pannonian's "sily" mistake at the beginning of the game, by voting a non-participant.

Vote : Sigurd

I'm going to vote for Sasaki for now, for the reasons I had yesterday. imo he's very suspicious, if you don't allow me to vote for someone and do allow others with reasons just as good.

Vote: Sasaki

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Originally Posted by Stig

I'm going to vote for Sasaki for now, for the reasons I had yesterday. imo he's very suspicious, if you don't allow me to vote for someone and do allow others with reasons just as good.

Vote: Sasaki

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The others had better reasons.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

The others had better reasons.

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I don't agree ... bring some better facts to prove that you're innocent

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Originally Posted by Stig

I don't agree ... bring some better facts to prove that you're innocent

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Why don't you explain why your reason was better?

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Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning

The "I guess you don't like being called stupid mafioso" looks like some strange reasoning. Sigurd didn't give an explanation why he voted pevergreen in the first place, with the exception of "I know it's a shameless bandwagon, but he is one of the younger players"... The vote for HughTower had no particular reason either. I'm curious and I want a decent explanation.

Vote : Sigurd

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Why do people have to be such analytical about this? It is a game of mafia where the main objective for townies as is the mafia's, to reduce the numbers of players in the game.
At this early stage it will be pure luck to lynch a Mafioso.
The reason I chose pevergreen in my initial vote was because he was the only younger player I knew of. I am only familiar with half the names in this game.
That HughTower went bananas over my ill concealed provocation was surprising. He might not be mafia but was the only one reacting to my post. So I put my vote on him as a retaliation to see what would come out of it. I guess I started a bandwagon that got HughTower lynched. It takes more than one vote to lynch.

Now I got my eye on Reenk who spends a little too much energy trying to discredit Sasaki’s methods. Knowing Reenk from several games this is a new style for him. But that is to be expected as he will try something different in every game.
I am not going to vote for him just yet.

The one I shall vote for is: Vote: Discovery1
No particular reason for this vote other than a dislike for Abstains and no-votes.
We need to reduce out numbers to root out the mafia.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Why don't you explain why your reason was better?

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It wasn't better it was just as good.

The reason: sounds suspicious.
Is better then the reason:

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

There is not much to go on here but the town's interest is not served by having a no-lynch this round.

Vote: pevergreen

A shameful bandwagon I know... but you are one of the young players.

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Kills are now in their usual form.

Voting will end 24 hours from now, so this session will be slightly extended.

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

That HughTower went bananas

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:mad:

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Kills are now in their usual form.

Voting will end 24 hours from now, so this session will be slightly extended.

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I take it as we have witnessed this delay here, that GH writes the kills himself based on few instructions or just names from the Mafiosi.
Did you really not know that Oxes are colourblind GH?

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Originally Posted by Stig

I don't agree ... bring some better facts to prove that you're innocent

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People are usually innocent until proven otherwise, you know.

Although your reason was better than Sigurd's, however Sigurd's hosting a game and therefore has an excuse.

:balloon2:

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

I guess I started a bandwagon that got HughTower lynched. It takes more than one vote to lynch.

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True.

That's why I thought your vote for pevergreen was a better one. Ichigo's Sasaki vote can be ignored, since it's an "Ichigo tradition" to vote Sasaki as soon as the game starts. But Redleg and pevergreen added there vote quite quickly, pevergreen being the third vote already in a game that just started. A bandwagon against a player who, if playing pro-town, is very useful and a real asset for the town.

So it seemed strange to me you unvoted pevergreen, because that vote was imho actually a good vote, and you voted for HughTower, which was a bit of a strange vote.

But I accept your explanation

Unvote : Sigurd

For starting a bandwagon by placing a third vote on a player at the very beginning of the game. One vote : makes people talk, second vote: can be the start of a bandwagon ; third vote: makes the bandwagon rolling, thus:

Vote : pevergreen

And I still want an explanation from Redleg : why did he put a second vote on Sasaki?

Ichigo, you were the last to vote for HughTower. You were the only one who didn't give any reason. You just posted:

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

Unvote:whoever
Vote:HughTower

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:inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

Did you really not know that Oxes are colourblind GH?

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I can't answer that at this time. :sorry:

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Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning

For starting a bandwagon by placing a third vote on a player at the very beginning of the game. One vote : makes people talk, second vote: can be the start of a bandwagon ; third vote: makes the bandwagon rolling, thus:

Vote : pevergreen

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Should pever turn out to be Mafioso I must say... the curse of third on the wagon is true.
Is that in the mafia glossary btw? I want some of the credit... :beam:

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

Why do people have to be such analytical about this? It is a game of mafia where the main objective for townies as is the mafia's, to reduce the numbers of players in the game.

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:inquisitive: :huh:

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

At this early stage it will be pure luck to lynch a Mafioso.

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:wall:

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

The one I shall vote for is: Vote: Discovery1
No particular reason for this vote other than a dislike for Abstains and no-votes.

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:stare:

Vote: Sigurd Fafnesbane

(Translation: I'm voting Sigurd because I strongly disapprove of the reasoning he's using, both this round and last.)

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

Why do people have to be such analytical about this?

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The reason I chose pevergreen in my initial vote was because he was the only younger player I knew of.

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

Did you really not know that Oxes are colourblind GH?

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Just to remind you, Sigurd, it was your (logically poor) analysis that the misconception about bulls & the colour red would most likely mean the involvement of a 'younger person' that led us here.

So, why can others not be analytical, whilst enduring your fine forensic findings?

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Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning

True.

That's why I thought your vote for pevergreen was a better one. Ichigo's Sasaki vote can be ignored, since it's an "Ichigo tradition" to vote Sasaki as soon as the game starts. But Redleg and pevergreen added there vote quite quickly, pevergreen being the third vote already in a game that just started. A bandwagon against a player who, if playing pro-town, is very useful and a real asset for the town.

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Redleg and pevergreen may have carried anti-Sasaki feelings from Capo to here, so I'd give them some leeway for that.

Carrying through Sigurd's suspicions about the tardiness of GH being caused by lack of detail in the PM, I'll go for someone who was similarly sparse in a previous game. Even if he's innocent, I'd like to hear more from him.

Vote: Kagemusha

:yes: I am very anti Sasaki :laugh4:

Vote: Abstain Its school, and i cant read the thread.

I think HughTower was a good 1st round lynch choice. I didn't really expect him to get lynched when I voted for him- but I don't regret it happening either. Odds are that we didn't get a mafioso, but with so little to go on he was certainly behaving quite suspiciously.

For now, I'll:

vote: Destroyer of Hope

His behavior thus far has been totally out of phase with his normal in-game behavior.

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

I think HughTower was a good 1st round lynch choice. I didn't really expect him to get lynched when I voted for him- but I don't regret it happening either. Odds are that we didn't get a mafioso, but with so little to go on he was certainly behaving quite suspiciously.

For now, I'll:

vote: Destroyer of Hope

His behavior thus far has been totally out of phase with his normal in-game behavior.

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I am trying to be more active these games. If I want to make a postitive change in my playing style I understand it might get me lynched in the first couple games but its worth it for now.

Disco has been acting like he did in Mafia IV, and hasn't been talking much, lets see what he has to say.

Vote: Disco

Vote discovery1

He is the poster boy of a bad villager, hell he makes sas look like an angel. Until we can get solid (or at least tangible) evidence on someone, voting for the players we dont think can help isnt a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Destroyer of Hope

I am trying to be more active these games. If I want to make a postitive change in my playing style I understand it might get me lynched in the first couple games but its worth it for now.

Disco has been acting like he did in Mafia IV, and hasn't been talking much, lets see what he has to say.

Vote: Disco

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ANd that's exactly how I acted in all the earlier mafia games as well: rabidly going after Ice since he went to Michigan. You can see my legacy in the mafia glossary.

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The one I shall vote for is: Vote: Discovery1
No particular reason for this vote other than a dislike for Abstains and no-votes.

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And I have been abstaining and no voting how?

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Originally Posted by discovery1

And I have been abstaining and no voting how?

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I believe he meant he didn't want to abstain or no vote.


Vote:My academic advisor who rescheduled our meeting for 8 am

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Vote:My academic advisor who rescheduled our meeting for 8 am

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

First class is at noon pal, NOON

But I probably have to stay up all night to study for a test that covers material that we haven't in class due to a snow day :oops:

hmm Unvote, Vote:Reenk Roink

Constantly voting one player is too good a cover.

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Originally Posted by HughTower

You've been playing Mafia for longer than I - you tell me.

• You changed a vote without giving a reason to the candidate who was most likely to be lynched (aka bandwagonning).
• You have consistently added to your vote in the last voting round to whoever looked most likely to be lynched at any one time.
• You act as if your sole objective is that someone dies in the lynching round.
• This mirrors the Mafia objectives.
• This is also a logic you'd be familar with.

Why?:juggle2:

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https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=178
Just because I didn't give it at the time doesn't mean there wasn't a reason behind it.

First vote:https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...5&postcount=64
Second:https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...2&postcount=89
Third:https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...6&postcount=92
Fourth:https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=139

The only person I bandwagoned was you, and I"ve already explained my vote. Unless you count Pever who was acting strangely when I voted him. Other than that I only voted for you after you took offense to a stupid accusation by Sigurd(no offense Sigurd). Now it seems like your just trying to attack me for your mistake.:no: Your last point proves mine I wouldn't be so foolish as to make such a obvious error.

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Originally Posted by Redleg

Well since no one else has posted or voted since the death report. Are we waiting on the write up from GH, or what?


Do get the discussion going again.

Vote:Ichigo

For multiple changes in vote during the last lynch

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Really? So I'm supposed to have a clear suspect the first round? Rather illogical reason for voting me.