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I have Xfire also and it is a very nice system. Most instant messengers allow voice chat, but i have used Xfire's voice chat room and it works pretty well. I understand some ppl will not have mic's but if the current players at the council meeting have mic's we could possibly do a voice meeting. Just thought i would throw that out there.
Plugging a set of normal headphones into a mic jack will allow you to speak into one of the headphones as if it were a mic, or so I have been told. I have never tried this myself, so I am uncertain, perhaps I will experiment later.
Bootsiuv
Unless there are many great voice actors within our troupe, microphone discussions would only detract from our charactery.
X-Fire is the same as many other Messengers except it has a "Gamespy" appearance and attitude.
This program often doesn't work, the updates corrupt themselves and I have many problems trying to connect, so it is certainly not my first choice.
MSN Messenger will provide no less than X-Fire.
But we should see not who prefers what program, but who initially has what program.
well for voting purposes i have x-fire and have had no problems with it thus far, if need be i can always get msn but i would prefer x-fire, mainly for ingame chat so everyone could theoretically be in savegame as we talk about the game, think this would make discussions much better
Agreed, although MSN is easily accessible to anyone, as it's a free download if I'm not mistaken. This will likely be the best platform, although mIRC is also another option, and this would allow real-time debate between all members.
It would likely require most to download the software and perhaps some general configuring, but I remember using the program to great success in council meetings when I played the online multiplayer text game Utopia some years ago.
If one person is talking on MSN Messenger, opens Europa Barbarorum, presses Alt+Tab and then returns to the discussion with a save-game in the background, what great difference is shown by talking on X-Fire?
just to avoid confusion xfire is also free, the main difference is that people can scroll around the map while talking, also alt-tabing for some especially with the new 1.0 is a long process 2-5 mins
EB can also be run in window mode....the information on how to do this can be found in...err, your 'pointers for aar writers' thread, madmatg.
I wouldn't recommend trying to play the game like this unless you have a lot of ram, but it is nice to overlook the current situation.
Perhaps we should make this information available to all members in this thread.
Bootsiuv
ya i have done this, but just as it takes a long time to alt-tab for slower comps it is even worse for slow comps with Rome in window mode because it gets at most 3/4 the resources it normally gets in unwindowed mode, so it is even slower to scroll around and move around the world, I dont really know what kind of computing power most people have that will be playing so i dont know if any of that is even a legitimate point for this thread
I don't think it matters what we use, I have MSN, Googletalk, X-fire and Skype. One thing for sure though, I think we should communicate in a written form. Most people on the internet are more fluent in written english if they don't have it as a native tounge.
Agreed. We will refrain from mic use if only to preserve the 3rd century BC feeling as much as possible (considering we're looking at a computer screen, this isn't always easily accomplished).
Bootsiuv
Old news for new avatars to#242
There are problems with some of the avatars it will be fixed:they should be ok now pm me if they are not ok
All Avatars have been updated please select here your correct avatar please select them from this page
In the future all avatars will automatically updated so your avatar could change without notice this is because i'm working on a little secret project
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Starting Avatar Governor (10k)
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Starting Avatar "Senator from the city of" (7k)
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Fantastic work....as always Sassem.
I'll be AFK for a while, but I've had a few ideas which might merit discussion later this evening.
Bootsiuv
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I have some ideas to they came from reading the discussions here but we need Spoofa with us i think
I will pm you
I endorse xfire, it has never failed me ever for anything. best messenger ive ever seen.
the only reason i use AIM (Aol instant messenger) is because most of my friends from school arent gamers so they dont know about xfire.
btw, mic use isnt really cool for a game based in the 3rd century BCE, my parents would probably wonder wtf im doing if im discussing our conquest of italy out loud in my room.
Is that last one an extra, or is that because we never gave LovetoRock87 a province?
I don't have my player list right in front of me and I can't remember off of the top of my head.
Bootsiuv
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Lovetorock87 isn't assigned yet
Ps note some avatars ( yours and mine) will be updated they are 0.7 k to big :sweatdrop:
No worries....they really do look great. I'm looking forward to seeing your other ideas.
Once we work out all of the mechanics of the game (which may be simpified slightly, to make them easier for the average player to understand, as Glenn and I tend to get a little wordy), we'll set up the council thread.
I finally have 1.0, so we should be beginning the game once everything is worked out (which may not be for some days, perhaps this weekend would be a good time for our first council meeting).
I'll talk to Glenn and maybe we'll put our heads together so we can complete these things over the next three days.
Saturdays and Sundays may be our best days to hold MSN meetings.
Bootsiuv
I am just curious, how many committed players do we currently have? Also to all the talk on what IM program we are gonna use i am for using anything!
can't wait for my avatar and signature.... Sassem i sent you the additional info... :2thumbsup:
yes, i agree... they are a bit wordy... but they are clear if the reader takes the time to carefully read it all... at least thats how i feel after reading some of the rules and stuff in this thread...Quote:
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For now look to post #242 of this thread
Ps going off line see you all in 20 hrs
I'm wondering if MAA will be able to update his mini-mod soon.
Is anyone else aware of the things needed to make the necessary changes. I understand that he may be busy, and an update may not come for several weeks.
If anyone has any knowledge of such things, perhaps we'll have to make our own city mod.
I already plan on modifying elephant HP's and making the file available to all players.
Comments and concerns are welcome.
Bootsiuv
It is grand to see our other players beginning to speak.
LoveToRock87, you have heard that you are not yet assigned to a player, please tell us whether you would like to be a future family memeber, or a senator.
I would also like everyone to give their emails immediately at the moment we decide on a messenger program.
Limiting the meetings to weekends will mean we must structure our Shophet's term differently, the first meeting will be on a Saturday, meaning the Shophet will be elected Friday.
Emergency meetings will be on a Sunday and Term Reports will be written on Monday.
That then allows an entire week for voting, deliberation and free speech before the next term.
This is a far more relaxed schedule, and I like it already.
Bootsiuv, we can finish the constitution within the next three days, as long as you, as my superior (Being the GameMaster), not only comment on my ideas for legislation but begin to change them into laws you want kept in reality.
Take my ideas, and your own, and with my advice, turn them into the rules we will play by.
An idea for those of us who will remain senators; Sassem has created a most ingenious design to include those who are simply debaters in our game, a greater feeling of membership.
I hope that user's names will be added to these tags, but also, in-game, should a diplomat be created and sent to the province of our player's choice?
Not only will this provide our new senator with a name he can use in character, but it will give him a true position in our faction.
It will also provide our settlements with greater influence.
I will return in the afternoon, four hours from the posting of this.
Everyone here has provided well for this game, and it is to the greater honour of Bootsiuv's invention, I hope it blooms!
The diplomat idea is interesting....very interesting. It would give all of our cities ambassadors, which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, although it would require a small amount of in-game resources....I think this is justified in representing the expenses the empire would have to pay for their senators travels and living expenses. A nice idea that I just may include, although poor Sassem will have to update his senator pics with the in-game ambassador pics....not necessarily hard to do though.
I was also going to mention adding names to the tags, as it will also greatly help those of us who are running things behind the scenes.
Good post Glenn...and I'll be around, my daughter will actually be asleep, so I can engage in healthy debate. I look forward to your return so we can begin to finalize and construct the actual document....perhaps a private MSN meeting between you and I is in order?
Bootsiuv
I would love to be able to advance to a family member if not from the start. One word of caution on the weekends, I do leave Milwaukee on some weekends from about friday to late evening sunday. I understand if this can not be changed for just one person, but i can grantee to be here on weekdays since i am in school. As of now i am usually gone one weekend out of a month, that could change to two. Again just putting it out there. I will do my best to work around what is set up. Sorry if this creates any big hassels. :no:
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I'm pretty handy with text files, and im taking Computer science-I if that means anything... (java programming is very different from easy text editting :laugh4: )
I just need to find out what's needed and where to limit the cities and such, Ill try to get on it, oh and tell me what you want to modify on the elephants and ill go ahead and do that too and just slap it into the .rar archive when im done.
No hassles. I understand the weekend thing.
I was gone two weekends out of the month too (divorced parents), so I can relate. It isn't a requirement for senators to attend the MSN meetings, and you will have your oppurtunity to vote on issues in our council thread, as I intend on keeping the game fully accessible to those who can't always attend live meetings.
Now, we really need to choose IM platform. I prefer something which allows us to have a chat room. I'm unfamiliar with X-Fire, but several members have said it's a good program, while others have said they have had problems.
I will look into it now....but, honestly, I'm leaning towards Xfire at this point for it's chat room ability.
Bootsiuv
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Hey, when you download xfire add me, my SN is MastaSpoofa , we can talk about stuff easily over that instead of posts here if its somthing requiring quick responses. :2thumbsup:
Spoofa, fantastic news.
I had a feeling you had some knowledge of such things....prepare to be known as our tech guy from this point onwards.
As for the elephants, I was thinking of lowering their attack and lethality, raising hitpoints to something like 4 or 5, and I haven't examined the charge but it may need to be increased or decreased accordingly.
I want elephants to be big line busters who suck in melee and don't kill too many people, aside from the few they trample.
I just want them to be used as they were historically....to break up the lines so infantry and cavalry could flood in and fill in the gaps, gaining an advantage over the demoralized and unorganized enemy.
I think this tactic is quite possible in RTW, by a few simple modifications.
Bootsiuv
EDIT: I'm downloading it now....I want to make sure everything works properly, as I do have vista on my laptop, which is how I go online. I assume it's vista compatible?
I think, we should lower attack, and raise charge a bit to represent the trampling and their tusks swinging around and such, and im going to raise their Hitpoints to about 5, there's a thread in the main part of the forum about elephant hitpoints and such, I think im also going to raise the Armored elephants armor if its not high enough, I havent really had a chance to use them in battle yet though so I dont know their armor rating atm.
Oh yeah it should be vista compatible, I have several friends online who use vista and play/talk to me without problem.