Announcement: Debates in the Gahzette

The panel of judges are currently discussing the Wladinger vs. CR debate and I can reveal that it will be the one which will be published in the december issue of the Gahzette (shocker!!).

The Andres vs. Louis the Fat debate is currently on hold as Andres needed more RL time.

The DonC vs. HoreTore debate should have started but I have not heard from either.

I really want to test my growing skills (still a babe) in debate and hereby challenges anyone who will take the atheist side in a Does God exist debate. I have nearly completed my opening statement as a theist in that debate. Anyone that will test their atheistic skills?

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

The Andres vs. Louis the Fat debate is currently on hold as Andres needed more RL time.

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I'll do my best to pm you this week. Sorry for the inconvenience :bow:

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

I really want to test my growing skills (still a babe) in debate and hereby challenges anyone who will take the atheist side in a Does God exist debate.

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Why don't you challenge anyone who will take the agnostic side?

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Originally Posted by Andres

Why don't you challenge anyone who will take the agnostic side?

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Becuase I would agree wholeheartedly? :laugh4:
Nah, as an agnostic I have chosen the theist side. If another agnostic would want to debate me, he/she should take the atheist side. This is a black or white case, a Yes or No not "we don't know" debate.
Come on people, I know there are lot's of you that would say no to the question of Does God exist? Now you can argue your points.
I guess sapi or Kukri will moderate this debate.

The Yes or No side of this debate is childish. Since it can only be *known* to oneself the debate should focus on the consequences of the answer. Why is it important if there is a God (or not)? How would it affect your life if you changed your opinion from one to the other? The answer isn't important, only your reaction to it.

You'll find that any debate about the existence of the divine ultimately results in a debate about man; that's what it's all about.

Maybe I could do an overturn Roe v Wade debate? I have no formal training. This debate thing is a good idea.

That would be an interesting debate. I'd like to hear the counter to Roe's attempt to have it reversed. She claimed she was misled by her doctors. I never heard much of a follow-up to that story.

I think a debate about Cyber schools (which I posted a thread about eariler), would be nice, but don't know if anyone would be up to it.


Also, Mabye a debate about wheneter or not there should be a set of rules in War, like the Geneva Convention.

What you guys think?

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Originally Posted by Vladimir

You'll find that any debate about the existence of the divine ultimately results in a debate about man; that's what it's all about.

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I have made my proposition and I am not going to debate mankind. This is about the cosmos and its entities.

There have to be someone here with the knowledge to write a few lines on why God does not exist. :whip:

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

I have made my proposition and I am not going to debate mankind. This is about the cosmos and its entities.

There have to be someone here with the knowledge to write a few lines on why God does not exist. :whip:

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Hell, I could probably do it, but that'd somewhat deplete our supply of judges, and defeat the purpose of a community debate :grin2:

Volunteers, people! :whip:

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Originally Posted by sapi

Hell, I could probably do it, but that'd somewhat deplete our supply of judges, and defeat the purpose of a community debate :grin2:

Volunteers, people! :whip:

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You looking at one :beam: . Need something to keep me busy this Month, since vacation is coming soon :clown:

I will join for:

Global Warming, does it exist, or not?

I take the yay part.

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

I have made my proposition and I am not going to debate mankind. This is about the cosmos and its entities.

There have to be someone here with the knowledge to write a few lines on why God does not exist. :whip:

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Any such argument is doomed to failure. A better question is why should we care?

Not my opinion mind you *eyes a dark cloud*.

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

Becuase I would agree wholeheartedly? :laugh4:
Nah, as an agnostic I have chosen the theist side. If another agnostic would want to debate me, he/she should take the atheist side. This is a black or white case, a Yes or No not "we don't know" debate.
Come on people, I know there are lot's of you that would say no to the question of Does God exist? Now you can argue your points.
I guess sapi or Kukri will moderate this debate.

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What? a debate wether God exists? whats the point, I (and the faithful) already know the Lord does!not insulting athiests

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Originally Posted by Caius

I will join for:

Global Warming, does it exist, or not?

I take the yay part.

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I take the Nay Part:yes: . I don't think it exist at all.

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Originally Posted by Caius

I will join for:

Global Warming, does it exist, or not?

I take the yay part.

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I hate to say it, but that stopped being a debate years ago ~;)

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

I really want to test my growing skills (still a babe) in debate and hereby challenges anyone who will take the atheist side in a Does God exist debate. I have nearly completed my opening statement as a theist in that debate. Anyone that will test their atheistic skills?

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I can take the atheist side if the spot is still open.

:gah: I have to bow out of my debate due to school! Maybe somebody would like to take my place and engage Bopa The Magyar in a debate on the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict on the side defending Israel?

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Originally Posted by Vladimir

Any such argument is doomed to failure. A better question is why should we care?

Not my opinion mind you *eyes a dark cloud*.

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This is like asking, why do we spend time here at the org? It is pure entertainment value. Besides I get to test my new skills at debate.
So you think it is doomed to fail? Better take a seat and watch then.

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Originally Posted by Boyar Son

What? a debate wether God exists? whats the point, I (and the faithful) already know the Lord does!not insulting athiests

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Well as a new born theist, we need to spread the word. It becomes everyone who has been warned to warn his neighbour. If a dam was about to break wouldn't you run through the village yelling: "The dam is breaking!!"?
Of course there are those foolish enough to not heed the warning.

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Originally Posted by Cheetah

I can take the atheist side if the spot is still open.

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Ah, an .org elder. It would be honourable to test my skill against you sir. Since {BHC}... is doing the Global warming I guess the spot is open. I accept your challenge.

Make an affirmative proposition which will be your opening statement (about 400 - 500 words. I have already made mine which it is 479 words) and send it to either KukriKhan or sapi. One of them will open a thread when both opening statements have been received. I don't know if sapi has moderating powers here, if not Kukri would be the obvious choice.

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

Ah, an .org elder. It would be honourable to test my skill against you sir. Since {BHC}... is doing the Global warming I guess the spot is open. I accept your challenge.

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For the record this debate between Sigurd and Cheetah has greatly piqued my interest.

I'd like to throw this out now before the actual debate occurs. Could we get a seperate discussion thread running concurrent with the debate that is highly moderated?

This would have a lot of value for the Backroom. Heck put forth specific rules for the discussion thread I dont care. This is one of those issues that has the potential to be more consilitory then devisive, we could use a couple of those here.

Just a thought... :idea2:

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

This is like asking, why do we spend time here at the org? It is pure entertainment value. Besides I get to test my new skills at debate.
So you think it is doomed to fail? Better take a seat and watch then.

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Well as a new born theist, we need to spread the word. It becomes everyone who has been warned to warn his neighbour. If a dam was about to break wouldn't you run through the village yelling: "The dam is breaking!!"?
Of course there are those foolish enough to not heed the warning.



Ah, an .org elder. It would be honourable to test my skill against you sir. Since {BHC}... is doing the Global warming I guess the spot is open. I accept your challenge.
Make an affirmative proposition which will be your opening statement (about 400 - 500 words. I have already made mine which it is 479 words) and send it to either KukriKhan or sapi. One of them will open a thread when both opening statements have been received. I don't know if sapi has moderating powers here, if not Kukri would be the obvious choice.

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We can switch if you like m8 :yes:, don't matter to me :beam:

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Originally Posted by Odin

For the record this debate between Sigurd and Cheetah has greatly piqued my interest.

I'd like to throw this out now before the actual debate occurs. Could we get a seperate discussion thread running concurrent with the debate that is highly moderated?

This would have a lot of value for the Backroom. Heck put forth specific rules for the discussion thread I dont care. This is one of those issues that has the potential to be more consilitory then devisive, we could use a couple of those here.

Just a thought... :idea2:

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2 things:

1. My honorable colleague sapi doesn't have Mod tools here, so I'll pick up the ball. SigurdF and Cheetah, if you will therefore PM me your opening statements, I'll start a new debate thread.

2. Are there any objections to Odin's idea of a higly Moderated debate discussion thread? If not, we'll try it out. Once I've made the formal [u]debate[u] thread, I'll also start a debate discussion thread, where entries from the non-debaters will appear after being reviewed (by me). This means you won't get the instant gratification of seeing your gem immediately, but I promise all reviewed entries will be published within 12 hours.

Problems, anyone?

Do we have a deadline or schedule for this debate? I am asking because I will be away from Thursday till Saturday afternoon, so the earliest time I can send my opening statement is Saturday evening.

Also, I have no objections to Odin's idea, in fact I am too very much interested in what other people think about the debate.

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Originally Posted by sapi

I hate to say it, but that stopped being a debate years ago ~;)

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Years as in two or three? Look at what it was 30 years ago. No, seriously, it could be referenced.

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Originally Posted by Cheetah

Do we have a deadline or schedule for this debate? I am asking because I will be away from Thursday till Saturday afternoon, so the earliest time I can send my opening statement is Saturday evening.

Also, I have no objections to Odin's idea, in fact I am too very much interested in what other people think about the debate.

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No rush Honorable Cheetah-san. We have the December debate almost Gahzette-ready now, so we have the whole month for a Sigurd vs Cheetah duel (tm).

congratulations to Crazed Rabbit on his victory. I agree with the part about him controlling the debate. I was on the defensive far too often considering that I had to go on the attack in order to prove my point.

the article mentioned a points system. I was wondering if I could see the points totals for me and CR. I am curious about how close it was.

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Thanks to my honorable opponent and the judges.

And a huzzah for gun rights everywhere!

Crazed Rabbit

Well, it was an interesting read. In summary, I also think that CR won the round, strictly from a debate perspective. However, I would warn both debaters against the idea that syllogisms are always correct, as they can hide fallacies.

For example:

God is love.

Love is blind.

Ray Charles is blind. Therefore,

Ray Charles is God.

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Thanks to my honorable opponent and the judges.

And a huzzah for gun rights everywhere!

Crazed Rabbit

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So does that mean turkeys and deer can shoot back?

on a serious note, congrats, and good debate.

Due to my opponent said he's leaving the org, I'm not longer able to participate. Therefore, I'm teh winner! :beam:

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Originally Posted by Caius

Due to my opponent said he's leaving the org, I'm not longer able to participate. Therefore, I'm teh winner! :beam:

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