There were lots of different rocks in the world. Big. Small. Sharp. Dull. Black. Gray. Green. Dense. Heavy. Light. Dirty. Wet. Rough. Smooth. The rocks being used (re-used, if one wanted to get technical) were the perfect type of rocks for throwing at people.
They were small enough to hold and throw with one hand, but big enough to make something of an impact on its target. They were mostly gray, having been taken from the Frontroom Quarry. However, a few had bloodstains on them, having been the final rocks to strike the previous day's condemned, Zalmoxis.
Husar would now be the one to receive the rocks. He had no interest in them. But there was nothing he could do about it. He could only hope that the Frontroomers had exceptionally bad aim.
Meanwhile, as he hoping, normal procedings went on. Once brought up to the execution platform, he was asked by Chief of Police Beirut if he had anything to say before he was executed.
"Um, yeah... I really hope the wind picks up sometime in the next couple of seconds."
A few villagers chuckled at this. That was pretty much the only noise made (no wind) until the yell of pain eminated from Husar, whose feet has just been stapled to the platform.
At that signal, the rocks began to strike their target. As previously mentioned, they were perfect for throwing at people, and very shortly Husar departed this world.
Still alive: (19)
Seamus Fermanagh
Kagemusha
Craterus
Xiahou
Silver Rusher
Don Corleone
AggonyDuck
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
Csar
Reenk Roink
Destroyer of Hope
Dutch_guy
Sigurd Fafnesbane
doc_bean
Masy
discovery1
Drisos
God's Grace
Committed seppuku:
Divine Wind
Killed:
UltraWar
Sir Moody
Pannonian
Evil_Maniac From Mars
Sasaki Kojiro
theRTWGuru
Kommodus
Proletariat
Executed:
Hepcat
Banquo's Ghost
Zalmoxis
Husar
12-01-2006, 02:18
Xiahou
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
What I didn't understand that Xiahou? I think I'm above being suspicious? How so?
Edit: And I would have had Sasaki killed in GF2 if I really wanted him dead but there's no reason to kill him he's usually more suspicious when he's alive.
Right, the point was that, on the surface, you would seem to have the least reason to kill Sasaki. Too late for this round though....
Edit: These no-votes and abstains are getting out of hand.
12-01-2006, 02:32
Husar
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Yay, my first erm, execution.
I'm not sure whether I like that stoning, imagining doesn't really give me a stronger christmas feeling, but at least you said it was quick, GH.:sweatdrop:
I want to thank everyone who voted for me and congratulate the real mafiosi for erm, another free kill...:bow: :clown:
Being a great fan of Sasaki, I won't refrain from posting now though.:2thumbsup:
12-01-2006, 02:53
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
Right, the point was that, on the surface, you would seem to have the least reason to kill Sasaki. Too late for this round though....
Edit: These no-votes and abstains are getting out of hand.
Alright I didn't understand what your saying. Thanks for spelling it out for me.
12-01-2006, 03:04
GeneralHankerchief
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
Edit: These no-votes and abstains are getting out of hand.
Agreed. People who do nothing but abstain will suffer my wrath. Consider this a warning.
12-01-2006, 03:55
Zalmoxis
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
I literally just found out that I was executed. That's despressing, but have you thought that maybe I'm just not as committed as any of you to think out my actions?
12-01-2006, 04:04
Husar
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
Edit: These no-votes and abstains are getting out of hand.
I would agree on that, had I not just had this thought...
Maybe two of the ONLY FOUR people voting for me are mafia?
12-01-2006, 04:29
Seamus Fermanagh
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Voting Records:
Inactive (Abstain or no vote) Voters:
-- 4+ of 5 votes (4 lynchings):
Don Corleone: no vote, no vote, no vote, Kagemusha, abstain
Drisos: no vote, abstain, no vote, no vote, no vote
Dutch Guy: Abstain, no vote, Divine Wind, no vote, abstain
God's Grace: no vote, Divine Wind, no vote, no vote, no vote
-- 3 of 5 votes:
Craterus: no vote, abstain, Divine Wind, no vote, Ignoramus
Crazed Rabbit: Reenk, abstain, Zalmoxis, no vote, no vote
Masy: abstain, Divine Wind, Divine Wind, no vote, abstain
Silver Rusher: no vote, Proletariat, abstain, Csar, no vote
Of the 11 "active" votes cast by these 8 voters, 5 were for the eventual suicide victim.
Drisos has only voted once, by abstaining!
Other voting points of interest:
All 4 voting for Divine Wind's death in round 2 (not runoff) are alive [God's Grace, Masy, Seamus, Xiahou]. 2 of the 4 who voted for Banquo are dead.
Masy has only voted to lynch Divine Wind.
Other points will follow as I tease them out.
12-01-2006, 07:02
Death Match
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Okay... Nobody believed when I said Husar was innocent. What is the point of a detective if noone believes him??
Since that I have already posted that I was the detective, I am NOT breaking the rule by doing this. I think. If I am, please delete.
PM from GH:
Quote:
Sweep, sweep.
Loud crunching noise could be heard as theRTWGuru sweeped his rather big garden. Suddenly he came across a loose paper on the ground.
"Come outside"
Startled, Guru when outside and saw two men in grey suits and gold ties.
"Take this letter. Don't show this to anybody else."
"What? But why?"
The men walked away. Guru had no choice but to open the letter and read the contents.
"Something is wrong. We want you to investigate. To keep it secret, we want you to show this letter to nobody."
Congratulations!
theRTWGuru, you have been chosen to be the detective of the Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back!
Your job is to post me investigation after each Mafia kills. Remember, you cannot reveal your position after your death.
This simply means you have killed Husar who was innocent.
12-01-2006, 07:15
discovery1
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Anyone know if GH gave such elaborate PMs before?
12-01-2006, 10:48
doc_bean
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
If you really were the detective and went public so early you deserve to be killed so early and have no one listen to you...
I just noticed Silver Rusher is keeping awfully quiet, not like him at all.
12-01-2006, 11:32
Sasaki Kojiro
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Loud crunching noise could be heard as theRTWGuru sweeped his rather big garden. Suddenly he came across a loose paper on the ground.
swept
Quote:
Startled, Guru when outside and saw two men in grey suits and gold ties.
went
etc
GH has better grammar than this.
12-01-2006, 11:33
Sasaki Kojiro
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Voting Records:
Inactive (Abstain or no vote) Voters:
-- 4+ of 5 votes (4 lynchings):
Don Corleone: no vote, no vote, no vote, Kagemusha, abstain
Drisos: no vote, abstain, no vote, no vote, no vote
Dutch Guy: Abstain, no vote, Divine Wind, no vote, abstain
God's Grace: no vote, Divine Wind, no vote, no vote, no vote
-- 3 of 5 votes:
Craterus: no vote, abstain, Divine Wind, no vote, Ignoramus
Crazed Rabbit: Reenk, abstain, Zalmoxis, no vote, no vote
Masy: abstain, Divine Wind, Divine Wind, no vote, abstain
Silver Rusher: no vote, Proletariat, abstain, Csar, no vote
Of the 11 "active" votes cast by these 8 voters, 5 were for the eventual suicide victim.
Drisos has only voted once, by abstaining!
Other voting points of interest:
All 4 voting for Divine Wind's death in round 2 (not runoff) are alive [God's Grace, Masy, Seamus, Xiahou]. 2 of the 4 who voted for Banquo are dead.
Masy has only voted to lynch Divine Wind.
Other points will follow as I tease them out.
Interesting, what's your conclusion from all this?
Lurking is certainly a problem.
12-01-2006, 11:38
doc_bean
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
I love how mafia games work like a prisoners dilemma, Nash equilibrium be damned :laugh4:
12-01-2006, 13:04
Banquo's Ghost
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Interesting, what's your conclusion from all this?
Lurking is certainly a problem.
Not surprising, when anyone who posts ideas gets lynched.
Call it The Banquo Dilemma.
:bounce:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I know, I'm dead, what do I know. :grin:
12-01-2006, 13:27
AggonyDuck
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
I think we can assume that most of those who have several no votes are likely innocent. The risk of Wrath of God should be enough to keep the mafia active. So I think we need to look for the mafia among those who vote or abstain.
12-01-2006, 14:01
Husar
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
swept
went
etc
GH has better grammar than this.
You're raising good points there, but, GH is human and I am innocent and that is why I am inclined to believe the Guru, for what other reason should he do this? And if we were both mafia, then the game would be over, right? Additionally, he got killed by the mafia...
12-01-2006, 15:45
Kommodus
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
GH has better grammar than this.
Agreed. That "quoted" PM didn't look like GH's style at all.
Look, theRTWGuru, you made it pretty clear you weren't really the detective with your fake "reveal." If you were the real detective you'd never have done that, unless you were completely clueless. The way in which you did it was impossibly unbelievable too. Is it any wonder that no one listens to you?
I'm not precisely sure why you falsely claimed to be the detective, but hey, it's been done before by other townspeople. At least by getting yourself killed you made the mafia waste a kill that could've been used on the real detective.
Anyway, I sort of doubt Husar was guilty, but then again, the fact that he seems to believe Guru's ridiculous assertions is a bit suspicious. :inquisitive:
12-01-2006, 15:54
Don Corleone
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
You're raising good points there, but, GH is human and I am innocent and that is why I am inclined to believe the Guru, for what other reason should he do this? And if we were both mafia, then the game would be over, right? Additionally, he got killed by the mafia...
Just because you were innocent (which I happen to believe) doesn't mean theRTWGuru was in fact the detective. He could have proclaimed your innocence from his own hunches.
12-01-2006, 16:42
Dutch_guy
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Can no one understand a joke? You want me to spell it out to you?
It is a joke from a couple of games ago.
A 'joke' written over the internet tends to miss the target, especially if it isn't funny. And no, you don't need to spell it out to us, just be sure to make the sarcasm clear in a post - especially in games where the writing style of a post can get you lynched or murdered.
And I take it the 'joke' from a couple of games ago refers to one in GF2 ?
:balloon2:
12-01-2006, 16:59
doc_bean
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
I think we can assume that most of those who have several no votes are likely innocent. The risk of Wrath of God should be enough to keep the mafia active. So I think we need to look for the mafia among those who vote or abstain.
If I were mafia I'd make sure that at least 3 people had as bad a voting record as me, so at least 4 people would be killed by WoG if I was killed, little chance of the General killing 4 people in one round me thinks...
12-01-2006, 17:26
Husar
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Just because you were innocent (which I happen to believe) doesn't mean theRTWGuru was in fact the detective. He could have proclaimed your innocence from his own hunches.
You may be right, but I cannot see the sense in that. If he did it as a townie he was eitherjoking or taking the risk to make a possible mafia member(me in this case) look innocent.
12-01-2006, 17:36
discovery1
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
HEY EVerYBODY I"M THE DETECTIVE!!! TRUST ME!
12-01-2006, 18:22
AggonyDuck
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
I think we can safely assume that atleast Drisos and God's Grace are innocent. Doc I do not see any difference between WoG'ing three or four villagers.
12-01-2006, 18:48
Sasaki Kojiro
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by discovery1
HEY EVerYBODY I"M THE DETECTIVE!!! TRUST ME!
You've been making mostly joke posts. What for?
12-01-2006, 19:06
doc_bean
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
I think we can safely assume that atleast Drisos and God's Grace are innocent. Doc I do not see any difference between WoG'ing three or four villagers.
There's safety in numbers, usually only one or two people would get WoGed, so you don't run much risk.
12-01-2006, 19:54
Dutch_guy
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
I think we can safely assume that atleast Drisos and God's Grace are innocent
Why should we assume that ?
The only ones who are confirmed innocents are, well, the killed townies.
UltraWar
Sir Moody
Pannonian
Evil_Maniac From Mars
Sasaki Kojiro
theRTWGuru
Kommodus
Proletariat
Other than that, we have a wide range of suspects, obviously.
:balloon2:
12-01-2006, 20:11
AggonyDuck
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Because any mafioso will show enough interest in the game to atleast cast a vote or abstain. No mafioso would have failed to vote four times. That is why it is safe to assume that they are innocent.
12-01-2006, 20:25
Kagemusha
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
DuckieWhat makes you so sure that the mafioso wouldnt take that risk?
12-01-2006, 20:40
Xiahou
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
Because any mafioso will show enough interest in the game to atleast cast a vote or abstain. No mafioso would have failed to vote four times. That is why it is safe to assume that they are innocent.
I don't see it. There were no hard and fast rules regarding WoG for this game, so theoretically, a mafioso could still be sending in their kills while playing at being inactive without getting a WoG. :shrug:
12-01-2006, 20:52
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
A 'joke' written over the internet tends to miss the target, especially if it isn't funny. And no, you don't need to spell it out to us, just be sure to make the sarcasm clear in a post - especially in games where the writing style of a post can get you lynched or murdered.
And I take it the 'joke' from a couple of games ago refers to one in GF2 ?
:balloon2:
Actually it's from Cosa Nuova I believe. I know it was before GF2.
12-01-2006, 21:51
AggonyDuck
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Why would a mafioso risk a WoG by not voting when he can easily lurk and just abstain/or only post a vote?
12-01-2006, 21:54
Kagemusha
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
It could be a viable tactic.After all each post you make creates attention. When you consider who to vote, do you go through the player list or remember what happened in the thread?
12-01-2006, 21:56
Seamus Fermanagh
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
Why would a mafioso risk a WoG by not voting when he can easily lurk and just abstain/or only post a vote?
Might not be a risk at all. Could've PM'd the gamemaster in advance noting that they would be doing that as a strategy. If punctual with other stuff, it'd be pretty hard to WoG them on non=participation.
Course it could look funny if every other non-voter got splattered. Perhaps that's why we have so many limited activity voters still breathing?
12-01-2006, 22:52
discovery1
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
You've been making mostly joke posts. What for?
What to kill me for having fun again huh? This SK he's always out to spoil fun yes sir y bob. On a related note, the snow here in urbana probaly won't last and my hands are still thawing out.
Well, this latest one is the flat out truth. In fact, I have always been a detective, even when I was mafia.
The others where humorous ways of abstaining.
12-02-2006, 00:05
GeneralHankerchief
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Kills will be up a bit late again today. I'm fairly busy with Will of the Senate - apologies.
12-02-2006, 01:11
Death Match
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Okay... Nobody believed when I said Husar was innocent. What is the point of a detective if noone believes him??
Since that I have already posted that I was the detective, I am NOT breaking the rule by doing this. I think. If I am, please delete.
PM from GH:
Quote:
Sweep, sweep.
Loud crunching noise could be heard as theRTWGuru sweeped his rather big garden. Suddenly he came across a loose paper on the ground.
"Come outside"
Startled, Guru when outside and saw two men in grey suits and gold ties.
"Take this letter. Don't show this to anybody else."
"What? But why?"
The men walked away. Guru had no choice but to open the letter and read the contents.
"Something is wrong. We want you to investigate. To keep it secret, we want you to show this letter to nobody."
Congratulations!
theRTWGuru, you have been chosen to be the detective of the Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back!
Your job is to post me investigation after each Mafia kills. Remember, you cannot reveal your position after your death.
This simply means you have killed Husar who was innocent.
12-02-2006, 01:16
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by theRTWGuru
Okay... Nobody believed when I said Husar was innocent. What is the point of a detective if noone believes him??
Since that I have already posted that I was the detective, I am NOT breaking the rule by doing this. I think. If I am, please delete.
PM from GH:
This simply means you have killed Husar who was innocent.
That PM isn't believable for me. I know GH wouldn't make such grammar mistakes unlike me.:beam:
12-02-2006, 02:18
GeneralHankerchief
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. After the sushi fiasco most people figured that they would rather stay home and die than go out and die.
AggonyDuck had had enough of the killing and executions going around in the Frontroom. He withdrew to his house, and took his mind of it all by practicing clicking. A mouse, that is.
You see, AggonyDuck was a member of the fine Aggony clan, and to live up to their excellent standards, excellent skills were needed. And excellent skills required practice. So AggonyDuck sat down at the computer, and started to click his mouse. And click. And click. And click. Clikclikclik.
The *clikclikclikclikclikclikclikclikclikclikclikclikclikclikclikclikclik* of his mouse made him unable to hear the creak of his door opening.
Suddenly, a hand behind him grabbed his mouse, and started wrapping the cord around his neck.
AggonyDuck could only gasp for air while the mafioso remarked "You should have went cordless, everybody's doing it."
"But of course, you were too worried about the 1 millisecond delay that cordless has...always about speed, well don't worry about it anymore."
AggonyDuck was found slumped in his chair, strangled to death. Around his neck was his mouse.
doc_bean belonged to no clan, and as such he had a life. Instead of practicing his clicking skills, doc decided to catch up on his sleep. Living in fear took a drain on the body, you know.
However, he would never realize that this was a terrible mistake. A fatal one, even. Because while asleep he missed the sound of a ladder hitting the outside of the house. He missed the sound of a glass cutter, well... cutting glass. And he missed the sound of the mafioso, wearing sunglasses and a trenchcoat, climbing through.
He even missed the mafioso opening a bottle of chloroform, and at that point he would miss a lot more.
doc_bean never woke up. This didn't have to do with the chloroform so much as nine pints of blood being removed from his body, donation-style.
Upon further investigation of his house, authorities discovered that the blood was packaged in nine pint-sized bags, labeled by type and date, and stored in his refrigerator.
What chilled the authorities more, however, was the following note stapled to his forehead:
"Luke 4:23"
Later that day, as always, Chief of Police Beirut had gathered the remaining villagers in the town square to make an announcement.
"Gentlemen," he began, "WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?"
The villagers were shocked at their Chief of Police's explosion. Clearly the stress of the situation was getting to him.
"Seriously, people! Come on! Do you *want* the mafia to kill you all? Because you're clearly not executing the right people!"
At this, people in the crowd started to speak up.
"How do you know that? We might have gotten one, and the other person is just killing two people as a cover?"
"Yeah? And how come you're the one who always addresses us, and not the mayor?"
Mayor? They had a mayor? How come Beirut was usurping this person's power? Was he in the mafia?"
"SILENCE!" Beirut roared. "I have a gun on me, and so I get to give the orders. Apparently we are not scaring the mafia enough. So the person with the most votes tonight will be BURIED ALIVE! GET VOTING!"
The villagers, gasping, did so.
12-02-2006, 02:28
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Vote:Beirut
12-02-2006, 02:32
Husar
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
So after I got lynched, the wanax is gone?
That's quite interesting because it kind of makes me look guilty, doesn't it?:2thumbsup:
12-02-2006, 02:35
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
So after I got lynched, the wanax is gone?
That's quite interesting because it kind of makes me look guilty, doesn't it?:2thumbsup:
It sure does.
For what it's worth.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BibleGateway
23Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks
12-02-2006, 02:36
Seamus Fermanagh
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Vote: Beirut
...will he be informed of his lynching by PM or do we post the thread in the Frontroom?:beam: :smash: :smash: :yes:
12-02-2006, 02:38
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Vote: Beirut
...will he be informed of his lynching by PM or do we post the thread in the Frontroom?:beam: :smash: :smash: :yes:
I'm sure GH will inform him :D :beam: :smash: :laugh4: :end: :guitarist: :iloveyou:
12-02-2006, 02:45
Sasaki Kojiro
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
That's funny, I once lost a game to AggonyDuck because my wireless mouse ran out of batteries.
12-02-2006, 02:48
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Sasaki could you perhaps tell us when the last time SR was on?
12-02-2006, 02:51
Sasaki Kojiro
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
The 29th.
12-02-2006, 03:17
Lord Winter
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Anyone notice any simmilaters between Discos behavior in mafia IV? His random comments could make a good cover for a mafiosto, like the ice fued.
Vote: Discovery1
12-02-2006, 03:25
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Destroyer of Hope
Anyone notice any simmilaters between Discos behavior in mafia IV? His random comments could make a good cover for a mafiosto, like the ice fued.
Vote: Discovery1
Disco claimed he was the detective. So if he doesn't provide some PM's then I'll think he's guilty.
This is from before when I posted some of Ignoramus's posts.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Unvote: Ignoramus Vote: God's Grace
Second point John 16:24 is obviously a quote from the bible. Now unlike other clues that have been posted this would have been hard to find the quote unless you know the bible pretty well. I don't know about alot of you but I don't read the bible alot and I don't know any lines from it. GG is a Christian a devoted one at that. That's not just coming from the name.
I think that this is a red herring. I think this is an attempt to frame GG. With a name such as his, it would be the height of insanity for him to do that. I am a Christian too, and I wouldn't post verses from the Bible in my kills if I was one of the mafia.
This could be used against me but Ignoramus notes that he wouldn't post Bible verses's in kills if he was mafia.
Quote:
Originally Posted by God's Grace
Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
God's Grace 6 These are the number of posts in this thread by each person if you wanna vote a lurker. There they are.
hey im a holy man not a inquistor! the only place where I posted or spammed if you will, was in Mafia I when i was the blasphemous Spartan posting my but off writing unholy messages from the "dead".
This is a quote from God's Grace. He admits he is Christian.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
I Suspect Csar. Look at how his comments below don't make sense.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
I was too busy picking on Reenk you see. I'm not that evil though he hasn't even posted yet. After that though it's a free for all. I'm coming for you Sasaki
And then:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Unvote: Ignoramus
Vote: God's Grace
Killing Sasaki was a stupid thing to do. Everyone knows (atleast everyone that has played mafia games for a while) that he gets more annoying after he dies :P Who ever did it was either a noob to the game or haven't played the game for a while. I don't think someone who has been playing the games lately would kill Sasaki it really a pointless thing to do. GG hasn't really played a Mafia game since GH's Mafia III.
If it was so obvious, why post it? Here Csar indirectly points the finger rather lamely at GG. Saying that whoever did it was a noob or hadn't played in a while, and then nonchantly stating that GG hasn't played for a while.
Csar would have killed UltraWar, because he knew that UltraWar was a good player. Then in the voting that followed, Csar followed Sasaki's lead almost every time.
What has happened is that Csar made Sasaki think that he was innocent and then killed him. He could not have killed Sasaki straight away, otherwise everyone would have suspected him. Thus he waits a few rounds, avoids suspicion, and then strikes
I still think this was a bandwagon attempt by Ignoramus.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignoramus
Vote: Csar
He cast his vote for me after SR voted for me coincidence. I think not.
Vote: Ignoramus
12-02-2006, 04:39
Crazed Rabbit
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Vote: Disco.
Under the 'lynch all liars' plan, and for his generally inane posting.
I'm not convinced of his guilt, but this'll stand for now.
CR
12-02-2006, 05:10
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
Vote: Disco.
Under the 'lynch all liars' plan, and for his generally inane posting.
I'm not convinced of his guilt, but this'll stand for now.
CR
I don't know if I missed something but I haven't noticed Disco lieing unless he doesn't have PM's to back up his claims. Then he would be lieing.
12-02-2006, 05:22
Xiahou
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Well, Csar's still suspicious.. although Disco seems like a reasonable choice as well. :shrug:
For now...
Vote:Csar
12-02-2006, 05:43
Crazed Rabbit
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
I don't know if I missed something but I haven't noticed Disco lieing unless he doesn't have PM's to back up his claims. Then he would be lieing.
Well, he's jokingly claiming he's the detective.
CR
12-02-2006, 05:58
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
Well, he's jokingly claiming he's the detective.
CR
That doesn't make him a liar now does it?
Xiahou good job helping the Mafia.
He's suspicious so I'll vote him. Heh:thumbsdown:
12-02-2006, 08:05
discovery1
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
I HAVE A BRILLIANT PLAN to help the mafia
VOTE: DISCO!
12-02-2006, 08:17
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by discovery1
I HAVE A BRILLIANT PLAN to help the mafia
VOTE: DISCO!
If you could prove it with a PM then I'de believe you.:beam:
12-02-2006, 09:32
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
GH can you confirm that you would let a mafioso live if he didn't vote and told you he was going to stay away from the thread and the Org for that matter as a strategy?
12-02-2006, 11:33
doc_bean
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Meh, I'm death.
First time I got killed by the mafia I believe.
12-02-2006, 12:12
Ignoramus
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
I have no desire to retaliate, but I cannot allow my innoncence to be constantly challenged.
Vote: Csar
12-02-2006, 12:52
AggonyDuck
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
That's funny, I once lost a game to AggonyDuck because my wireless mouse ran out of batteries.
And what is also funny is that I actually use a mouse with a cord. So this mafioso seems to spy on me. This means that he must live close to me, so the only proper suspect has to be......Kagemusha! (not really)
Anyway it's a nice way to die, you know, dying when doing what you love.
12-02-2006, 13:31
Dutch_guy
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
Sasaki could you perhaps tell us when the last time SR was on?
A very good question, he's usually one of the most active members in the game. Strange he isn't being active this game, but then again, he'll probably get WoGed as he's been gone and missing for three days.
:balloon2:
12-02-2006, 13:56
doc_bean
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck
Anyway it's a nice way to die, you knowing dying by doing what you love.
That's how I felt about dying in my sleep :laugh4:
12-02-2006, 15:30
Don Corleone
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Guys, real life DOES happen from time to time. SR could have a hundred reasons for not being on more other than trying to hide his mafia colors.
This one isn't offering up a lot of clues, but I am offering up a warning in this and all other mafia games....
From now, anybody that 'reveals' themself as detective, especially in a stupid way, that doesn't convince me is going to get my vote from there on out. It's clearly come into vogue as a mafia trick to do false reveals (or we have a LOT of stupid townspeople out there). Either make a case, or expect my vote. Nothing ticks me off more than "how can you not believe me... I told you I was the detective, what more do you need?"
12-02-2006, 15:36
GeneralHankerchief
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
GH can you confirm that you would let a mafioso live if he didn't vote and told you he was going to stay away from the thread and the Org for that matter as a strategy?
I would Wrath of God him.
I can understand that real life happens. Most of the time, if a person is away for a couple of voting rounds, but then comes back, I will let him live. Like the Don. He has been active for the past few rounds, so he is in no danger to get WoG'd. The problem is when somebody is consistently away from the game and doesn't vote more often than he does. Once that happens, the lightning starts to fly.
12-02-2006, 16:37
Seamus Fermanagh
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Curiouser and curiouser thought Alice....
Csar, your protests against those voting for you come across a little "shrill."
E.G.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
He's suspicious so I'll vote him. Heh:thumbsdown:
Csar, my friend, that's the primary reason (gut feeling) for 90% of the votes cast in all of these games. You know that, so why the "you're helping the mafia win" whine? A bit suspicious.
You tried to build a case against Iggy, as he had tried to do to you before. BOTH of them are a little iffy. Both of you make some possible points, but there are a few "givens" we have to accept for either. I'm interested in both, but convinced of neither.
Facts from the voting record:
During day two (not runoff), -- our only really close vote --, 4 people voted to lynch Banquo: Aggony, Destroyer, Divine Wind, and Sasaki. Divine Wind was obviously voting to protect himself, but has since suicided due to computer problems. Of the other 3, 2 have been murdered. Only Destroyer remains (good luck buddy!). Was a mafia type successfully removed then, and do we have one trying to appear to be 2 with very distinct killing styles (the biblical quotations appeared AFTER this and the eyeball/lid thing seemed to shift as well -- though we must be careful reading into kill descrips since GH also has a hand in them)?:inquisitive:
In our last day of voting, the one that terminated Husar, a relatively quick bandwagon -- though small -- bandwagon formed to take him down. Husar counteratteacked Csar as the "leader" of this bandwagon, and Csar picked up a 2nd vote from Doc and started to close the gap. Didn't happen, Husar got stoned....and Doc got dead right away too.:inquisitive:
For now, I'll (tentatively)
Vote: Csar
12-02-2006, 16:52
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Curiouser and curiouser thought Alice....
Csar, your protests against those voting for you come across a little "shrill."
E.G.
Csar, my friend, that's the primary reason (gut feeling) for 90% of the votes cast in all of these games. You know that, so why the "you're helping the mafia win" whine? A bit suspicious.
You tried to build a case against Iggy, as he had tried to do to you before. BOTH of them are a little iffy. Both of you make some possible points, but there are a few "givens" we have to accept for either. I'm interested in both, but convinced of neither.
Facts from the voting record:
During day two (not runoff), -- our only really close vote --, 4 people voted to lynch Banquo: Aggony, Destroyer, Divine Wind, and Sasaki. Divine Wind was obviously voting to protect himself, but has since suicided due to computer problems. Of the other 3, 2 have been murdered. Only Destroyer remains (good luck buddy!). Was a mafia type successfully removed then, and do we have one trying to appear to be 2 with very distinct killing styles (the biblical quotations appeared AFTER this and the eyeball/lid thing seemed to shift as well -- though we must be careful reading into kill descrips since GH also has a hand in them)?:inquisitive:
In our last day of voting, the one that terminated Husar, a relatively quick bandwagon -- though small -- bandwagon formed to take him down. Husar counteratteacked Csar as the "leader" of this bandwagon, and Csar picked up a 2nd vote from Doc and started to close the gap. Didn't happen, Husar got stoned....and Doc got dead right away too.:inquisitive:
For now, I'll (tentatively)
Vote: Csar
I find it hard to believe he couldn't find one quote out of everything I've posted that would make me suspicious. Hell I could probably find a quote and use it against myself. Even Ignoramus found one come on don't give me that. And so Xiahou gets off scotfree for starting a bandwagon. Woooooo I wish Sasaki were here. :grin:
I was the third person to vote Husar. But I guess with the rule of three that means I started it.:dizzy2:
12-02-2006, 16:52
Reenk Roink
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Siggy is going to come under fire from me as of now.
He was Husar's most outspoken critic last round, and it is plausible that he is the Wanax who framed Husar and then changed his kill style to frame him more.
I know it's not solid, but frankly, it's the best argument against anyone right now. Sig is an excellent player who has fooled me personally twice and stolen victory.
Vote: Sigurd Fafnesbane
12-02-2006, 16:53
Sasaki Kojiro
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Where is Sigurd anyway.
12-02-2006, 16:58
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Where is Sigurd anyway.
Talked with him yesterday in the chat. There you are I was wondering where you went.:laugh4:
12-02-2006, 18:08
Xiahou
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Csar
I find it hard to believe he couldn't find one quote out of everything I've posted that would make me suspicious. Hell I could probably find a quote and use it against myself. Even Ignoramus found one come on don't give me that. And so Xiahou gets off scotfree for starting a bandwagon. Woooooo I wish Sasaki were here. :grin:
You're just making me more confident of my suspicions. I'm not going to go back and quote all of your previous statements- people can go back and read it themselves and decide. There's no real "money shot" as far as quotes go anyhow- it's more a pattern than any one statement. Killing Sasaki is always a risky maneuver, but I believe you felt your previous interactions with him would leave you off the suspect list.
Quote:
I was the third person to vote Husar. But I guess with the rule of three that means I started it.:dizzy2:
I'll certainly allow for the possibility that you're innocent- but being the 3rd person to pile on a bandwagon is at least somewhat suspicious. Combine that with the Sasaki murder and your apparent desperation to save your own skin and I feel you're a good lynch choice.
Also, I'd hold off on burning lurkers for at least another round or two until we let the WoG sort some of them out. It's a waste of a lynch to take someone down who's going to get a WoG anyway.
12-02-2006, 18:11
Sasaki Kojiro
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Ok. Interesting happenings. 17 alive, So we have 5 more lynch chances, 3 or 4 if a couple people get WoG'd. I think we have a pretty good chance at finding the mafia (though Craterus and Disco are still essentially lurking).
For my own reference (and anyone else's) here's links to all the kills and lynch posts:
You're just making me more confident of my suspicions. I'm not going to go back and quote all of your previous statements- people can go back and read it themselves and decide. There's no real "money shot" as far as quotes go anyhow- it's more a pattern than any one statement. Killing Sasaki is always a risky maneuver, but I believe you felt your previous interactions with him would leave you off the suspect list.
I'll certainly allow for the possibility that you're innocent- but being the 3rd person to pile on a bandwagon is at least somewhat suspicious. Combine that with the Sasaki murder and your apparent desperation to save your own skin and I feel you're a good lynch choice.
Also, I'd hold off on burning lurkers for at least another round or two until we let the WoG sort some of them out. It's a waste of a lynch to take someone down who's going to get a WoG anyway.
I doubt Sasaki would take me off his suspect list. I would think that Sasaki is more valuable alive then dead IMHO if I was mafia.
Ah thanks. Yeah and you were the third one to pile on the bandwagon against me. Desperate defense no, Vigorous defense yes.
I thank you for voicing your opnions :bow:
12-02-2006, 21:14
Craterus
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
I'm not deliberately lurking - I'm just generally clueless. Not enough Mafia experience to really know viable mafia tactics or even what I'm supposed to be looking for in a mafioso's behaviour.
(I do realise feigning ignorance might generate a bit of suspicion for me.)
12-02-2006, 21:19
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Quote:
Originally Posted by Craterus
I'm not deliberately lurking - I'm just generally clueless. Not enough Mafia experience to really know viable mafia tactics or even what I'm supposed to be looking for in a mafioso's behaviour.
(I do realise feigning ignorance might generate a bit of suspicion for me.)
Oh come on Craterus. I could have believed that in 2-3 rounds ago. But now that just seems to me like a cover.
Unvote:Ignoramus
Vote:Craterus
12-02-2006, 21:34
Craterus
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Is that because I outspammed you last night?
Vote: Csar
Too many pointless posts, hasn't made any really helpful insights into suspects.
12-02-2006, 21:54
Csargo
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
I figured you'de do that.
Too many pointless posts? Usually only the posts at the beginning of the game are pointless though there are some in the middle and end that are pointless too but still enough to base a vote off of.
12-02-2006, 22:50
Pannonian
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Perhaps I'm being a little me-centric here, but it seems to me that some of the more active investigators have been killed off, particularly the main participants in M3 (myself, Sasaki, AggonyDuck, Kommodus). I would look towards participants in that game. To that end, I would say that one of Csar/Ignoramus is a mafioso. Lynch them both, and you'll catch one.
Assuming Disco's vote counts, Csar, until you baited Craterus into a retaliation vote, you had a tie for the death-lead. What were you thinking?:dizzy2:
Actually, that may be crazy/unthinking enough for me to think you innocent. Hmmm....no vote change yet, but....
12-03-2006, 00:31
Husar
Re: Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back
Csar, you really behave like the grand-inquisitor of Mafia V.
You're spewing your accusations into every directions and if I tried to believe you, I would feel like everybody else, especially those accusing you, were all mafia.:inquisitive:
Do you recognize anything that doesn't fit here?
You seem hyperactive and overeager and you accused me of changing my behaviour?:laugh4:
