ElectricEel, why did you conquer south and not west? i was just wondering because that is way far from the VC.
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ElectricEel, why did you conquer south and not west? i was just wondering because that is way far from the VC.
I didn't expand past the victory condition borders in the south until Epeiros expanded up to my lands and attacked me. I was concentrating on my economy so I was not recruiting lots of units; what I had went to fight the Epeirotes, so I didn't expand further to the west or east. Of course, I am now fighting a 4-front war, so the focus on the economy is over...
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(Koinon Hellenon control in Greece and Epeirot control in Kydonia)
Lusotannan Empire 228 BCE, 10 years after the Heir to the throne led an army across the alps and began sacking the entire Italian Peninsula, literly crushing Roman power for a time. (I'm guessing near 100,000 population killed)
Epeiros with power waning in Greece took this as an oportunity as the Epeirot Population rose up and took control of the city of Taras(?) from the Romans after it was sacked, the rest of italy minus Rehgion(SP?) Which wasn't in control of Rome to begin with went back to Roman control.
My Romani campaign is on hold for a bit till I figure out the ctd problem. Till then I'll be playing as Saka, at least until summer, so another month and some.
I plan to take an active beginning approach but a defensive later one once a carve out my empire in the steppe. I've destroyed my only contestants for this area in the Sauromatae and Parthia, at least for awhile, and thus just plan to conquer the dispersed barbarians in the area while hoarding a bit of wealth. Once the steppe empire is created, I will sit and watch the world fight amongst themselves while reading, repelling any invasion and brutally retaliating on the offender.
I've tweaked the game in the following ways: MAA's city mod, Jarado's force diplomacy mod, no pirate or rebel spawn, altered income scripts as such:
Most factions are doubled in the income they receive. Parthia was absurd, stuck at their three to four provinces, they were fielding several Grivpanvar units and kept churning out units. Fortunately they were relatively passive, only making 2-3 invasions. Those who have problems or I favor (Luso, Macedonia, Pontus, and Saba) are about 2.5x normal. The horde factions (Seleucids and Sweboz) are about 1/3 of normal since I don't feel like fighting them this time around. I've made about 300k to the Bactrians, Macedonians, Saba, Romans, Carthaginians, Pontus, and Luso to get them going, but it doesn't seem to have done much. I really wish I could get the a.i to be more aggressive and use its money more effectively :wall:
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Pontus is doing ok, as are the Luso and Saba. The Hai don't seem to be using their armies anymore. The Ptolemies are rocking the Seleucids, and while Macedonia had a great start they've had some problems due to the persistance of the KH and the suddenly aggressive Getai (they sat in their capital for about 20 years then conquered the eastern Hellenic areas all of a sudden). Rome and Carthage are both being quite slow; the African wars of Kyrene are probably part of this, whereas Rome hasn't kicked out Epiros yet. The Bactrians and Sweboz are nonexistant in their expansion, while the Aedui have reversed the Gaullic struggle recently but cannot completely take over. Macedonia or the Ptolemies will probably be the two strongest world powers in about another 10-15 years.
The Sauro were rather passive but at the same time tough to take out. I'm not as experienced in steppe military tactics as I am in hellenic or Roman, so I experienced a rather harsh loss when I overextended myself as usual, trying to bullrush the weakened Sauro and lost an entire half army (nearly my entire empire's army). They could've countered and taken three provinces immediately in the two years I had to reconstruct another 'army' but only bothered to retake Uspe. My military strength has been limited to 1-4 generals, about 5-9 HA's, maybe one noble at most, and recently about 5 foot archers as well. The foot archers act as garrison defense in important points while the HA army runs around responding to threats. As I only border the Hai and Bactria right now, I don't think I have anything to fear for awhile, so I get to practice fighting against the elusive steppe barbarians to the west. I think I'll stop expansion 1-2 provinces east of the Sweboz and Getai.
Check out this wacky map using the modified money script!
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Here's 225BC, showing the Sabaeans sharing a border with Armenia!!
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Sauromatae in 217:
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The Aedui are whipping the Sweboz, and after Massilia resisted as the last Arvernii sronghold for about 10 years they are now a protectorate of the Aedui.
Carthage is being kicked out of Spain by the Lusos, Roma almost wiped out Epeiros but the KH attacked them and took Arpi but are now being pushed into Sicilia.
Macedon started a war with the Seleucids after conquering almost all the Getai in a true Blitzkrieg, i was amazed. Saka although passive is massing theit only 2 armies along my border while Baktria is just happy to be alive, so is Parthia.
The Sabeans took a rebel city in the most southern part of the map, and the Ptolies are kind of done for.
And now, proof of Carthaginian cowardice, over the last few turns they massed these 3 stacks and do not attack even though they are at war with Roma, the Romans are kind of doing the same near Karali.
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Oh yea, and the Casse have doing this in the last 10 years this means NOT taking the rest of Ireland just standing there on the border.
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They've discoverd the fine irish beer.
I am amazed. I have never seen a Sauromatae campaign progress so far. How did you do it? I am always in the red after the first 2 turns.
Well in my Saka campaign which I guess is pretty close to Sauromatae you have to use your army wisely and not get to many causalties as we you win battles for cities.
Casualties aren't a problem in my game. It's economy. I can tear a hellenic army to peices and lose 2000 mnai a turn.
Maybe exterminate cities you take?
Here's something from a save I kept on accident(it wasn't the one I had planned on keeping one :wall: ) when I reinstalled EB last night. Aedui 218. Surprisingly, Epirus is the only neighbor I'm at war with.
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I want whatever Bactria's smoking!:idea2: What exactly did you do to the money script Sheep?:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheep
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Originally Posted by The Celt
~D
I love the breakup of the Seleucids, Sheep. The only thing which would make that even better would be a greater expansion of Parthia and Saka at the expense of Baktria, but what you've got looks like an improvement!
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Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
No time playing EB last weak.:( maybe Ill continue my pavhlan camp later this day. :beam:
Everyone is so anti-Seleucid...
I don't mine if the seleucid are strong in one game or another, but they are strong in most (a great majority), so I think they should be nearfed. Especialy when I play a faction that borders them.
They've most likely either played factions bordering them, or seen them swallow up the Ptolemies in all fo their games. As for me, Ptolemies, Seleucids, KH, it doesn't matter which Greeks get in my way as I go to liberate Galatia.:duel:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thaatu
I am and always have been anti-Baktria! :clown:
Not a big fan of AI Seleucia, though.
I would rather see selue get destoryed 98% of the times than see them get huge 10% of the time... uhm.. yeah.
I would prefer pavhlan to get big and conquer the selues, while baktriks stays kinda small but big enough to withstand the pavhlans and does other stepp peoples.
Anyway, now I'm gonna start playing EB. Need to get my mind off... stuff. :sweatdrop:
The silver death and the blue giant always ruined my campaigns with the Pahlava, Saka, & Sauromatae since they both teamed up on me
Personally, I like Seluecids to get big, but not too big. That way, I can trash them with my Marian troops.
Update on Saka campaign. It goes by pretty quickly because I'm not really involved in much fighting and my cities don't have much to build either.
So far the plan has been fine, but it's turned into quite a mess. Waiting out, not allowing invasion, not invading anyone else out of the steppe has been the policy but that might change now. In general the only aggressor has been Bactria, more on that later.
The faction expansion has been great this game (look at previous posts for my tweaking on money script). The division of Europe into 8 distinct peoples is truly interesting, as is the fact that the folks in Pontos, Armenia, and Arabia are all holding their own as well. The Saba have even captured Seleucia! The KH were dominating but the entry of the Getai into the war has pushed them back and the Maks have reclaimed some land as well. The Seleucids seem to be hurt hard and are at war with all of their neighbors but I can't see the Ptolemies easily capturing their eastern provinces, though their size is certainly monstrous already. The Epirotes have actually succeeded in reversing the tables on Rome from their island base of Sicily, thanks to the Romans pushing too far west and dividing their forces against the Gauls and Luso. A number of wars have just erupted, including the carthage-ptolemies, maks-sweboz, and gauls.
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The transformation of Bactria was quite surprising. I was getting bored with them not doing anything and the Seleucids had declared war on me since I bordered them at Nisa so I gave myself a bunch of money and bribed a bunch of Seleucid cities and gave them to Bactria, hoping to get the AS off me and for Bactria to do anything (they had sat with their starting provinces the whole game and not made a single attack anywhere). Oddly enough, after that happened, Bactria became quite invigorated. They conquered Kophen/Gava-homa and then shortly later declared war on me. My income has been trash and due to lack of raids I have not been getting any plunder money so my army strength is pretty weak at best. Slowly I was forced to give up cities in perilous positions. The Bactrians really didn't manage to take any of those cities but I wanted to retreat to a more defensible position each time, and hoping that they would give up going after me. Not a chance. They've been sending quite a number of troops at me which have been dealt with by my mixed army in the region. I think now it's time to invade and subjugate Bactria and India to my rule, for they have stopped all other expansion and are focusing solely on me, aside from one stab at the weakened Seleucids that was easily repulsed. My western army, veteran HA's from capturing the Uralic tribes to the northwest, have nearly reached my eastern staging point, Gava-Maszakata, and my offensive campaign will begin immediately, for I had just repulsed a large army led by the Bactrian faction leader.
Saka strategy is more strategical map than tactical map based. It's not very difficult to be able to use your horse archers for good effect and all thats left is when to charge with the cataphracts and lancers (whenever I will get them). Instead, with such a weak numerically military and a large territory to defend, I've been using both retreats and feigned retreats far more than with any other faction. With Macedonia, retreat was never an option nor a necessity, just to stall for reinforcements and then attack again, the same with Rome. Having to defend my eastern lands has been quite hard and the only way was with a dispersed spy network, letting me see all enemy moves, and the mixed use of HA's and foot archers. The foot archers utilize a network of forts to both stall the enemy and prevent easy movement. The HA's move around defeating the isolating army groups before they can come together, using their great movement range and easy ability to retreat. Most of the battles against the large Bactrian armies has been with them besieging the fort/town with the foot archers, while the HA's come from behind and combined they defeat the starving army.
I would have lost long ago had I not gave up the southern and eastern cities which were too hard to defend. While the homeland is not an easy place to hold due to the distance from the main combat area around Gava-Maszakata, the Bactrians have only made a few weak stabs there which were defeating with good use of terrain and ambushes. But I'm surprised and pleased, for this is the first campaign where I've had to give up my homeland, even if it was only for a year. So far it has been a tightrope where any lost battle would result in the defeat of one of the army halves and then that entire half of the empire could not be defended. There was an occasion where my infantry retreated the wrong way, putting their backs to the aral sea, but thanks to the ridiculously strong bodyguards they were able to save themselves with only moderate losses. But now I plan to devastate the Bactrian holdings with lightning speed and probably capture them for myself, for the Bactrians don't seem to be expanding anywhere besides at my expense.
I was successfully playing a Pontic campaign. I know that other people have succeeded in conquering them as Hayasdan or Pontos, and also as other bordering factions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ower
They don't really need to be nerfed, they aren't meant to be easy to fight, particularly as the Pontic and Haikaikan factions, the latter of which certainly only grew large as a result of freak factors.
I don´t mind strong Seleucids in my campains when borthering them. It is just anoing, to wach whit a faction outside their reach, like 10 times from 9 they become a monstre almoust destroing Pahlava, Pontos, Hayasdan almous Ptolemies and most of the time Bactria as well.
And secondli, just find it ahistorical, that I take half of their empire, and they still can aford to send full and half stacks of hight lvl units against me, the Ptolemai and the Hai at the same time.
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Figure I'd post this here too. I'm starting to wonder if I'm going to have to fight off Seleucid invasions of Gaul soon.
WOW! The Seleucids and Baktria just exploded in your campaign Fondor_Yards.
I've seen quite a few cases of the reverse happening, too. In one game of mine in 0.80, they and the Ptolemies had virtually no change in balance of power for *ages*, in another, the Ptolemies drove straight into the Seleucid homeland. I think there's also some variation depending on who you're playing as, because the AI tends to go for the player first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ower
How big is half of their empire at said time? Presumably still fairly large. If half of your (say Italy+Greece+Gaul sized) empire was destroyed (unlikely, given the AI) you wouldn't immediately decide to stop producing troops or just send hordes of useless pantadopoi at an enemy.
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Originally Posted by Orb
yea but the majority of me units would not be elits, and i wuld not be abble to fight a 3 way war i those situations and gain on all fronts exept one (in this case Mine front as I am holding the passes befor Susa and Ekbatana, and at the same time, raide Anatolia:wall: but the elites still are coming
Casse, 229 BC.
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EB 0.81a on the BI.exe, no modifications apart from the formation files and some minor changes.
With the exception of Armenia, all factions have moved. The Gallic tug-of-war initially seemed to be going the Averni's way: they consistently managed to beat of the Aedui attacks. However, the Aedui took more neutral towns and eventually managed to overwhelm their opponents. Although the Averni still have four towns, they are pretty much spent and it's just a question of who gets their towns first. A turn or two after I took this screenshot, the Romans took Gergovia. The Sweboz have been conquering like mad. They are now at war with the Getai, who are expanding slowly but surely.
At one point I allied myself to the Sweboz and took Bagacos in northern Belgia, but the Sweboz betrayed our alliance and besieged it. I drove them of, but the Aedui (who were allied to both of us) decided to cancel their alliance with me as well. They even sent a small stack consisting of one Lugoae and two Gaesatae (the Averni and Aedui both have been spamming these units as soon as they got access to them) in my direction when my army was away, but I quickly returned my army and the Aedui turned back. Even so, I don't think our alliance will last long. My only ally at this point are the Getai (I turned down an offer from the Romans), whom I am giving financial support. They seem to be holding their own, as the front hasn't changed in the last twenty turns, and they are now besieging Kallatis.
The Romans are expanding into Germania and Gaul, but they don't seem interested in taking on the Aedui. They did offer me an alliance a few turns back. They also landed a stack near Byzantium, although what they are doing there is anyone gues. Sicily was taken in a lightning campaign a few years back. Carthage did manage to take one or two Iberian towns, but they seem to be a paper tiger at the moment. On the other hand, they lost one town to the Iberians a decade ago, yet have been containing their aggression ever since. Makedon took a beating from Epeiros and the KH, but their alliances with the Getai and Rome may save them yet.
Pontos conquered Nikomedia, but seems otherwise inactive. Armenia is still stuck in their starting province, and it looks like they will be staying there for a while as they are at war with the Sauromatea, who took the cities east of the Black Sea. The Saka also have been expanding, but are currently driven back by the Parthians. Bactria hasn't been moving much. The Seleucid empire has managed to keep all of its allies line, and seems unstoppable. They took the Ptolemics apart and currently are flooding India and Arabia with stacks.
At this point, my direct enemy is the Sweboz, but it looks like Aedui would like a piece of me as well. I almost finished teching-up, and I have a good cash-flow. Also, apart from a few large stacks, the Sweboz cities near are lightly guarded. Unfortunatly, my only army is tied down garrisoning Bagacos, and keeping the Aedui at bay. Also, I am afraid that the Sweboz are going to send stack after stack at me, as there were plenty of troops in the east when my spy last scouted there.
I am recruiting more soldiers and expanding the fleet to clear those bloody pirates from the channel. Once my troops are ready, I intend to start an amphibious assault on the northern part of the Sweboz empire, and march on to Swebotraustamnoz. Once their capital has fallen, the remaining Sweboz provinces near Belgia should fall easily, and I will have severely reduced their economic and recruitment bases. My current field army will hopefully keep the Aedui of my back. If not, well, then it looks like my continental ambitions are going to be thwarted.
Hi,
This is my Mak campaign, year 204 BC. (RTW 1.5)
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What has been cool about this game is the rising and falling of nations. Epeiros for example, after being booted from greece conqured the SPQR and advanced into the Alps. They came into contention with Carthage in Sicily, and captured 2/3 of the island.
Carthage having expanded along the coast of Iberia (maintaining a staunch alliance with the Lusotannan until this year), advanced through the Alps south into Italy and pummeled them into oblivion - gone in a matter of years.
Seleukia, dominated Syria and conqured Egypt leaving Ptolomey (my allies) with only their few southern provinces.
Not long after I made my advance into Asia Minor, and drew AS resources north, Ptolomey came back, reconqured Egypt and are now battling for Arabia.
The Sweboz for the most part moved east taking the independent tribes there, until the Avernii came to war and captured Sweboztraustastamnoz. The eastern provinces came into contention and war with the Sarmatians while in the south war with Carthage. They have been losing ground ever since.
The East has been completely stagnant. Saka and Phlav are protectorates of Bakria. Phlav is "at war" with AS but neither does anything other than stand around each other's border.
I continue to fend off the AS in Syria and Babylon. My alliance with Ptolomey is holding, but I'm not holding my breath. I am at war with Carthage. They blockaded Ambrakia for some reason...perhaps a bad trade?
As a result, I'm about to liberate Syracuse from Punic oppression.
The first 50 years of my Romani campaign follows. Don't start reading unless you got a few minutes to spare ;)
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262 BC
During the first 10 years nothing interesting really happens. As you can see there's some action from Ptolemaioi but not much apart from that.
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252 BC
Two decades into the game and the heat is picking up. One of the more interesting things here is Epeiros who is taking off really well despite being kicked out of Italy early on. Epeiros and Koinon Hellenon is of course gang banging Makedonia who is on their own.
In Iberia Lusotannan is actually active but Carthage on the other hand is not. Apart from Sweboz slowly expanding things are quite in northern europe and the rest of the west.
In the east however things are stirring up. Pahlava are doing short work of Saka and unless something happen soon they will be destroyed within the next decade. And in the middle of that conflict we find Baktria with massive armies... that does nothing... They are allies with everyone and are obviously having trouble to find the nearby rebel provinces.
Hayasdan have been doing better than what you see from the minimap. They got a fair number of huge stacks moving so I predict the screen of the next decade will have more light blue in it.
Their neighbor, Pontos, have quite impressive armies as well but lack the initiative.
The usual clash between the titans of the east, Arche Seleukeia and Ptolemaioi, is in full action. Ptolemaioi have been winning up 'til now but after scouting the territory I find there's alot more white than yellow armies about. I predict the tide is about to turn.
Also Saba is in a bit of trouble. I believe it's fate hangs on the war in the north.
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242 BC
Another decade later we can see some really interesting development. Sweboz is on a killing spree, grabbing rebel state after rebel state. Their territory is full of activity. But other than that western Europe is rather sleepy, besides my obvious expansion that is. Casse does seem to be ready to go off soon though.
Greece is active, but the wars doesn't seem to go in anyones favor. Epeiros and Koinon Hellenon are still smashing their armies against Makedonia, but not much have happened for the 30 years or so this war has been raging. Epeiros seems rather drained as well, no real armies are present. Disaster might be around the corner. North of that conflict Getai finally is waking up and expanding. And in Anatolia both KH and Makedonia have grabbed themselves a province. But considering how divided and friendless Makedonia is I doubt they'll keep their new addition for long.
Further east Hayasdan have been expanding, although not quite as much as I thought they would. They are still at peace with the great empire in the south but I doubt that'll last for very long. Pontos aren't quite as lucky though, they are getting eaten by Arche Seleukeia at this very moment.
As I predicted the war between the titans did turn in Arche Seleukeias favor and they've been retaking what they lost previously.
However, Pahlava obviously took a shot and aimed for the empires back and it is left for the future to tell whether it can fight a two front war. Due to this Saba is safe for now.
Pahlava did have the chance to finish Saka off but made it a client kingdom instead. Big mistake I say because they have now rebelled and is thus making it hard for Pahlava to focus on Arche.
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232 BC
It took 40 years for Casse to start moving but for the last decade they really have been moving. Sweboz continue to expand and will soon reach the black sea at this pace.
Carthage finally woke up from it's sleep. They declared war against me and have been expanding a bit in mainland Africa.
The stalemate in Greece has reached 30 years now but to be honest I don't think Makedonia will be able to last much longer since they lost their province in Anatolia. Also Pontos is on the verge of being swept away by Arche Seleukeia. I doubt they will make it to the next screenshot.
Their Hayasdan neighbors are doing much better though. Exploding into the steppes and commanding massive armies. There is still peace between them and AS but the whole area is about to blow, this can't last much longer.
The greatest heap of kudos I give to AS though. They are winning in the east, west, north and south. I've no idea how they manage considering they are at war with 6 factions at the same time. They've been completely wiping the floor with the Ptolemies and there doesn't seem to be any stop in them. Things do not look well at all for the yellow empire in the south. I suspect they will soon lose their key cities and after that they are finished.
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222 BC
Now I'm starting to get worried. Sweboz are beginning to get a bit more powerful than I'm comfortable with. Also as the good caring neighbors they are they decided to backstab me. We'll see how that will affect their expansion to the east because at this pace they'll soon enter the Greece slaughter grounds swinging.
Makedonia finally got kicked out of their homeland and they are hanging by the grass at the moment. You have to give them creds for their talent of survival though. I've been trying to help them out a bit but my treasuries are being drained and I'm fighting hard just to keep what I've gained.
KH and Epeiros got bored after kicking out Makedonia so they went looking for a new opponent. Me... They've been sending full stack after full stack to Krete and it's costing me, alot. They've actually drained almost the entire population of the island and unless something change soon they will actually win that war due to the fact there is no men to re-enforce the garrison. A war lost from population attrition, that'd be a first...
But I fear there is more to it than me losing a province. The war must have affected mainland greece in a similar way as it goes roughly 3 greeks for every fallen kretan in their sieges. And the beast in the east is moving... I fear that when they reach Greece there wont be much to oppose them and that could really hurt the balance in the world. I do NOT wish to become neighbor with that empire for atleast another 50 years.
I give Ptolemaioi another decade, two tops. And after that I don't think there will be anything that can stand in the beasts way until they reach me. Considering the fact they are already fighting all their neighbors on all fronts... and winning.
I had hoped for Hayasdan to put up a fight but they are clearly losing.
As a side note it can be mentioned that Baktria have taken it's first province in 50 years!
Oh and yeah, Pontos couldn't make it for the last screenshot. They send their regards anyways.
The reason why we once again see the Gray death in action, is due to script help, they receave 1200 for each city they have, and thay begin whit more than 20. this is what the money script thread in the unofical modiff. projects tries to solve.
THis is from my Seleuceia Campaign 220 BC on BI.exe
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I took this just after I wiped out Ptolemy. Problem is I concentrated on destroying them for the last eight years and neglected the upkeep of my cities. Now I'm overrun with rebels, and my armies are spread all over the desert. Rome finally invaded sicily, but Epiros is huge, and in alliance with Makedon. The Hai and I are in a Ceasefire while the Pahlava are still in alliance, but I'm going to attack them soon. I say the next 60 years of my campaign will be good fighting. :charge:
My advice to you is: secure the southern part of Armenia (before the steppes), defeat the eastern nomads (Pahlav, Saka) and then concentrate on Makedon and Epeiros, both all at once (treat them more or less like one faction, since they're allied).
This time the Grey Death is justified.
And if anyone's interested, Epeiros behaves in the exact same manner in my Romani campaign at 248 BC. Going north to expand, and encountering the Sweboz. They don't go against Makedon, though.
Continuation of post # 461
Romani Campaign @ 240 BC with EB v0.81a using RTW.exe. Playing on H/M.
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Currently at war with: Karthadastim, Lusotannan, and Sweboz.
Have recently sacked Kart-Hadast & Adrumeto. Had no intention of holding on to them yet.
Currently have 5 legions. Have a legion heading to take Arse (must deal with the traitorous Lusotannans), one to take Mastia (has 1.75 stacks defending it plus the garrison...should prove interesting), and one legion heading to take Iuvavoaeta. As far as my other two legions... One is in Volcallra defending against possible Arverni incursions and the other is in Pannonia Illyrica fighting wave after wave of Germans.
I am currently paying the following factions to fight other factions: Aedui to fight the Arverni, the Arverni to fight the Sweboz, the Maks to fight the Epeiros, and KH to fight Epeiros.
Future plans: kick Carthage off the Iberian Peninsula (then probably see if they will finally agree to a ceasefire), take Vindobona, possibly take Veldideno, possibly take Ak-Ink, raid/sack Lusotannan towns, and raid/sack Sweboz towns. Will have to raise another legion or two for the raiding missions though.
Seeing this thread reminds me how grateful I am for playing EB with the money script. Fighting half a dozen stacks per turn is nothing sort of burnout.
The Eleutheroi clearly need to be stronger like in the money script it really helps in stopping the Sweboz expanding all the way to the steppes so quickly and making the Getai stronger also helps stopping this freakish-mass-stack-producing-making-your-Romani-campaign-boring faction.
Sauromate 200 BC
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My western invasion against the Maks is beginning in the meantime I'm planning to take out Baktria and provoke rebellions in India with my team of spies.
The Lusitans after kicking Carthage out are going hard against the Aedui, who are also at war with the Sweboz and Romanii. The Getai were blitzed by the Maks in a great invasion in a couple of turns they were left only with Gawjam Bastarnoz but they rebuilt by going north and west into Sweboz lands, the AS are quite crippled by now and the Ptolies are holding on for their dear life.(Epeiros too)
The KH after many years of moving into Sicliy and southern Italy (they took Taras from Epeiros very early) have been wiped out by the Romans.
Saba has grown bold and sent 2 stacks and declared war.
Saka and Pahlava and soon Baktria will be crushed by me.
And Carthage is behaving very weirdly check out this thread:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...68#post1533868
Has anyone seen those Lusotanns go quite like this? (Apologies for bad cropping - I really don't know how to work this thing)
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This is 0.81a in 230 BC, no help given to AI. The Romani appear done for. They fled the "Storm from the West", but the Sweboz & Epirotes refused to make room.
[eta: I'm Hayasdan btw]
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My Mak campaign, 198 BC. Take a guess as to what part of the craziness is directly my doing, and what part is AI related...:clown:
wow, that's awesome. I like what Pontos and the Aedui have done too. Very nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by ereunao
Sauromatae campaign now in 195 BC, check a couple of posts back for the 200 BC pic:
https://img519.imageshack.us/img519/...auro195ff8.jpg
Look what the Lusitans and Romans did to the Aedui in just 5 years.
Carthage finally moved and started a war with the Romans who seem to be responding although I've seen that they make peace for a few turns and then fight again, most be the trade-oriented groups of interest who are pushing for peace.
Baktria is out and I'm using spies and raiding cities and letting them rebel in order to take out AS's presence in the east.
I took Sidon, Palmyra and Damascos and gave them to the Ptolies and right now I'm helping them push back the forces sent to take them back.
I'm thinking about giving them Bostra and Hyerosolyma but I'm not sure if they get strong enough in that area they might make peace with the Seleucids and attack me.
The Maks are putting up a fight but right now a great army is mustering in the steppes this army will raid Pella and Demetrias and maybe Athens in order to cripple them.
And the KH who are edging out a living on Crete surrounded by a couple of peace-keeping Mak armies just had Messana rebel to them.
And the Casse are really pissing me off they're standing around with about 800K in their treasury and 2 stacks in Ireland and they still haven't even crossed the border to see where the road to southern Ireland leads. They are the only faction that is able to support themselves without any AI bonus money BTW, as in my script I have an 100.000 cutoff point for the bonus, they got their money before using the Script but Carthage came down from 1.6 million to about 800.000 in 23 years of using my script.
Playing on VH/M with my own money script.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=83349
Continuation of post # 518
Romani Campaign - Winter 237 BC with EB v0.81a using RTW.exe. Playing on H/M.
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Check out the German Empire I am facing. They really want Segestica and are throwing wave after wave at me.
Epeiros is pushing the Getai hard. They will probably lose their southern provinces soon.
The Maks will soon only exist in Asia Minor.
KH is holding it's own against Epeiros and gaining ground against AS.
The Gauls seem to be only focused on each other.
Carthage is finally making some moves against rebels in Western Africa.
The Sab'yn seem to have totally vanished in the last 3 years. Kind of strange.
All eastern factions seem to be doing fairly well against AS. They are either holding their own or expanding.
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Qarthadastim Campaign, 252 BC, VH/M, BI.exe
Sweboz, Getai, Aedui, Sauromatae, and Hayasdan are all pretty much loafing around. (they've been like this in all the campaigns i've played up until now, too :inquisitive:)
What's interesting is that Bactria and Pahlava seem to be more interested in picking apart Arche Seleukia rather than expanding into rebel lands, and doing quite well too. :beam:
Kart-Hadast 253bc, BI.exe VH/M v0.81a.2
Interesting for the Epirote expansion and the new Ptolemaic kingdom in Asia minor
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Bizarre Greek/Mac expansion raven. You can tell it's BI for sure by looking at Rhodes, Crete, and Cyprus.
Sauromatae now in 189 BC:
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I'm trying to give back the Getai their homeland back as it's not in my VC's , also using the Ptolies as a buffer against what's left of the Seleucids, the last eastern Seleucid province will fall within the year.
In Greece I took Pella for myself gave Demetrias to Epeiros and now I'm trying to track the KH who are holed up in Messana to give them Athens and maybe Sparta after I raid them very soon but I can't get there:
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The Romans blocked the Sicily crossing as the Carthies landed there too.
The Lusitans and Romans seem equally matched on the western front and the Aedui are thinking how the hell did they lose their great empire so quickly (look some posts behind for more of my posts)
The Romans have landed!!!
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A roman army landed on Lesbos and laid siege to my city so my first battle vs the romans is about to begin hope i can get a ceasefire after the victory as I'm not bordering them anywhere (I was but gave Sarmiszegethusa to the Getai)
I started recruiting Drapanai, Komatai and Iaosatae in my armies and are great complements to my HAs and very few Galatian Wild-men. I really enjoy getting new troops to build in my allied states and thinking of new army compositions. I tried not to use phalanxes as it would be too easy and conventional (hammer&anvil) but rather my cheap spearmen or "freed people" as I call them Galatians, Thracians, Getai, Hindus and the rest of the people that love my regime of low taxes and all I ask for is green pastures for my herds. Well of course I exterminated them when I conquered but they forget quickly enough :clown:
Saba is stationing some troops along my border but have kept out my territories after the beating I gave them about a decade ago.
My caravans are crossing my entire empire from India to Pella which is just sweet.
That's all for now.
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My Romani Campaign as of 241 BC, just RTW 1.5 and Force Diplomacy mod. Very interesting in this campaign is the all-around expansion by the factions into rebel provinces. The Arverni, Lusotannan, and Casse are all expanding early. Carthage, in spite of the absolute thrashing they recieved in Sicily and Southern Italy, have actually expanded their holdings in southern Iberia.
But perhaps the greatest surprise of all is Greece. After conquering much of Makedonia's holdings in the Hellas, they have actually invaded Asia Minor and are warring with the Seleucid Empire, who has already conquered Memphis and Alexandria, making the demise of the Ptolemaic Empire a formality. The Hayasdan and Pontus also seem to be doing well, both getting started early on the nearby rebel cities, which although is not a breakthrough, is to my understanding somewhat rare. I believe the only faction that has yet to expand are the Sauromatae, but they have a couple half-stacks roaming around.
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224 BC, Casse Campaign, BI.exe
Saba has Seleukia :inquisitive:. Carthage recently went to war with the Koinon and Ptolemaioi after losing its war with Rome. Lusotannan is all but defeated after a monstrous full stack of rebels assaulted their expansion forces. I've been in a stalemate with the Aedui and Sweboz, hoping the reforms in 4 years will help me out some :beam:. Sweboz obtained most of its eastern territory from the Sauromatae after a few rebellions. Hayasdan is falling after a sudden blitz on the Seleukids, and Pahlav is all but defeated by the Baktrians.
Sorry for the bad explanations :sweatdrop:.
Casse, 217 BCQuote:
Originally Posted by Ludens
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My plan unfolded as expected, although the Sweboz managed to sneak up an army up to Swebotraustastamnoz and retake it while I was distracted in the south. My army came just to late to prevent the city from being stormed, but I am now laying siege to the former besiegers. Unfortunatly, small forces of Sweboz troops are threatening the northern and southern outpost of Gwamjam-Kimbroz and Gwamjam-Hattoz. I've got another army at Belgic Bagacos, but the Audui keep them occupied. They arte continually sending armies composed mostly of Lugoae, supplemented by around two units of Gaesatae and a smattering of other units. My Belgic force eats these stacks for breakfast, but they do prevent me from leaving Bagacos to protect my German acquisitions.
I am now planning to replace the Germanic Gaeroas garissons with lugoae to safe money and free these troops for offensive operations. My priorities are to retake Sweboztraustamnoz, relieve Gwamjam-Hattoz and take Gwamjam-Skandroz (and possibly Gwamjam-Gotanoz). Beyond that, I do not intend to expand further against the Sweboz. Their cities are not very profitable, they don't offer anything to recruit beyond Framejeharjoz, and I think I succeeded in severely weakening them: this is their first major attack since I've captured their capital and they have stopped offensive operations towards the Getai and Eleutheroi. However, this is going to take some running back and forth, because the Aedui and Sweboz won't leave me alone. If I succeed in this, I am going to blitz the Aedui. That won't be easy, though, as they have plenty of troops idling in their cities.
The Averni have lost two of their remaining territories. One of their stacks appears poised to invade northern Iberian town, but sofar they haven't worked up the nerve to do it. The Aedui are mainly busy with spamming lugoae and gaesatae to throw at me, although they did attempt to siege Averni-held Vesontio a few times. However, they got bored each time and decided to retreat. Apart from me and the Averni, they are not at war with anyone.
The Lusotanians have all but kicked the Carthegians out of Iberia. Carthage only hold Arse, and their garison is pitiful. They do have two full stacks on the Baleares, but these show no interest in attacking the tiny Roman garisson. They also lost Kyrene to the rebels. In theory, the Carthaginian economy so allow them to be a formidable power, but they aren't doing anything with that money. Rome, on the other hand, has been focused on taking Illyria. They've lost interest in Gaul after taking Averni-held Gergovia and Medilanum. Suprisingly, they aren't at war with the Aedui of Sweboz, although they are still with the Averni.
The Getai are holding their own and have actually managed to expand a bit, although they still appear afraid of the Sweboz with whom they are at war (they are allied with me, the Averni, the Romans, the KH and the Sarmartians. The KH has been doing pretty well, and have kicked the Makedons from mainland Greece while reducing the Epirotes to a single town (Epidamnos) and a stack at Rhodos (which is acting in the usual way of AI controlled stacks by doing nothing). Makedon, however, have taken Pergamon from the KH and are now sieging Pontic-held Nikaia.
The Grey death has lost the alliances of it's previous subjects (Pontus, Armenia, Pahlava and Bactria) and is actually at war with Pontus, but this does not appear to have bothered them that much. They pretty much taken apart the Saba: althoug the latter still have four towns, half of them are besieged by the Seleucids. In Libya the Seleucids have lost two towns to the rebels and one to the Ptolemies, but the latter barely have any troops left. However, the Seleucids have either lost or moved most of their stacks from the area; they've only a single stack that appears intent on offensive action (against the Ptolemic town south of Kyrene). The Seleucids did expand into India (although again they don't have any mobile stacks in the are) and a stack is moving towards the Pontic capital. The Armenians have captured two towns and thrown out the Sarmatians. They are not at war however, and neither are the Parthians and the Sarmatians, even though the latter took a town of the former. The Parthians are still sieging the eastern of the two Sake towns, but are otherwise not engaged in warfare. Neither are the Bactrians, who managed to take Sulek and are moving towards Kophen.
Sauromatae 179BC:
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I'm steadily progressing towards meeting my very ambitious VC's:
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The Carthaginians are challenging the Romans and have taken Sicily, the region was destabilized by the people of Messana joining the newly strengthened Koinon Hellenon who I put in place to stop the Macedonian control over Greece. The Carthies so this as an opportunity and landed 2 stacks, took Messana then Syrakousai and Lilibeo and beat back some impressive Roman armies they have a good general and mostly elite troops, judging by the little my diplomat could make of their army.
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And now the Carthies have done something I have not seen them do before they're crossing the Gibraltar straits into Iberia and trying to reclaim their long lost possessions with two full stacks!:
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The AS has now wiped out the Ptolies from Africa, the Saba keep trying every 5 years or so to take Seleukeia but I keep pushing them back.
The Ptolies have a stack on Rhodos but can't bring themselves to attack the city which is garrisoned only by the governor. 15 years or so ago they were down to Meroe and the province to the east of it, when I decided to help them and myself by giving them the cities which they now inhabit and to keep the AS off my back, it worked but now they lost their African possessions and I hope they won't turn on me. Just in case, I keep a 3/4 stack in their territory to ward off any big AS invasion they can't handle or raid the crap out of their cities it hey get any ideas and try to attack me.
Rebellions are a problem in the the far east but I manage to quell them even if it might take awhile. Gava-Saka is especially rebellious. The three other rebel provinces in the south- ast are of no interest to me and I like them the way they are.
The Sweboz, Aedui, Romanii and Lusitans are allying, warring making peace and repeating the process in different setups quite often. The Aedui have become recently a Lusitan protectorate.
And I pulled off a nice diplomatic maneuver I took Gawjam-Bastarnoz and Buridava from the Getai then gave them 50000 mhai & Buridava in exchange for peace & trade rights and they accepted, it might take a lot of gold but even on VH the AI is not absurd.
The Casse are not willing to take Ivernis, I even moved one of their generals to the city gates and he just stood there for a few years and then wandered off.
I'm very happy about what Carthage is doing, BI is great with naval invasions!
Check the posts behind in order to see how this evolved. I'll make a separate thread when I complete my campaign to show off the progress through time.
Thanks for this great mod!!
P.S.: Playing with BI and my money-script, JMRC's victory conditions and mlp0701 mercenary file (I don't know if the last two have any effect as I inserted them in an ongoing campaign)
Seleukid campaign, 208 BC:
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It's been an uphill struggle for me, as it seems that everyone views me as some big bloated monster bent on world domination (wonder why...) and thus I'm under attack on several fronts. By forcing protectorate status on Baktria, Saba and Pontos, I've taken some heat off my borders and I can finally spare the resources for an offensive against the Sauromatae. I'm turtling against Pahlava, Koinon and Karthadast while systematically exterminating Sauromatae settlements in the Caucasus. Anything I conquer in that region is given to Pontos, to build up a buffer zone that'll keep the nomad hordes off my back.
As to the AI factions, Karthadastim are doing nicely against the Romani in south, who are too focused on expading north. They have driven the Aedui to the Atlantic coast and are giving the Sweboz a good beating. Casse are comfortably sitting on their islands. Greece is dominated by the KH and Eastern Europe is being fought over by Getai, Sweboz and Sauromatae. Lusotanans have hogged up most of Iberia but seem to have stopped expanding further.
HEY how did you get them to be a protectorate?????
By using the force diplomacy mod (after I gave them a good thrashing and parked an army next to their capital city, of corse).
hum... can I use that mod in an ALREADY existing game?????Quote:
Originally Posted by Conqueror
IIRC, yes you can.
Romani, 230 BC in 0.81a v2
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Lusotannan were expanding into eleutheroi settlements early and at a good pace, while Carthage were stalling after losing Sicily to me early on. Later, Lusotannan took the opportunity to grab a Carthaginian city in Spain while I was beating them in a premature 2nd Punic war. After that, Lusotannan took most of the rest of Spain and started advancing into Gaul fast.
Carthage then started slowly taking eleutheroi cities in Africa.
Aedui lost Mediolanum to me around 260, and then they were slugging it out with Arverni for supremacy in Gaul. I eventually allied with them, but did not assist them in slowly beating the Arverni and making them a protectorate. I did assist them once Lusotannan began conquering Gaul with multiple stacks containing huge amounts of elite troops, especially Dosidataskeli. I went to war with Lusotannan, gave some Gaul cities back to Aedui, raided others and kept a few for myself.
Sweboz have been gobbling up eleutheroi like there's no tomorrow. I decided to take some of their cities in the northern Balkans to make sure they didn't invade Greece. Ever since, they have been sending a steady stream (well, torrent) of stacks at me.
Getai are not moving at all. I have tried to ally with them and give them a city to get started, but they won't accept and I'm not using forced diplomacy (yet).
Epeiros were sending all their forces into Italy early on, but still lost against my legions. Since then they have been quite static, but eventually took Thermon.
KH defeated Makedonia very early on and made them a protectorate. They then expanded into Thrace and crossed into Asia Minor where they made Pontos a protectorate and recently took a city from AS.
Pontos were expanding early on, but were easily crushed by KH.
Hayasdan have taken a few eleutheroi settlements, not been in any major wars.
Sauromatae only expanded very, very slowly.
Pahlava and Saka Rauka both took some eleutheroi cities early, and since then they have been battling back and forth for control of the northeastern corner of the map.
Baktria expanded very well early on, but around 240 the AS started gobbling them up, and their days are certainly numbered now.
Saba expanded at a nice rate, and have been battling back and forth against the Ptolemies.
Ptolemies expanded in Syria, Asia Minor and into the AS heartland early on. But recently, AS have been pushing them back on every front, while they havent been able to subjugate Saba.
AS took some eleutheroi cities early on, and then began a decline, losing many cities to the Ptolemies and others, both in Asia Minor, Syria and towards Babylonia. But recently, they have rebounded strongly and are advancing on almost every front, especially against Baktria and the Ptolemies.
OK, here some shots of the Evil Empire, with .81:
In the year 257BC
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- I pushed the Epirotes and the Koinon out of Hellas, and the Epirotes were starting an italic Empire instead
- Seleukids are pushing hard the Ptolemaioi
In the year 237BC:
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- Hayadan pressing the Sarmatae
- Saka repeatedly Protectorate of Baktria
- Carthage expanding nice, so do Casse, Sweboz, Getai
- Seleukids entering Egypt proper, taking Ptolemaioi holdings in Asia Minor, quarreling with Sabaeans for Arabia
- Koinon Hellenon and Pontos wiped out by me; Pontos allied with the Seleukids and declared war on me - bad mistake...
In the year 224BC:
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- Romans reducing italian Epirotes to Campania, making them protectorate
- Lusotannan attacking the Carthies with big success!
- Casse conquering Ireland, Sweboz expand further
- Gauls heading both for northern Spain
- Seleukids beating the hell out of the Ptollies
- Carthage conquering independant Sicilia after a "war-without-much-fighting" with the Romans
- Getai more or less stopped their advance, from time to time attempts to conquer Getia Koile
- Armenians attacked by me in a preemptive strike, they had allied with the Seleukids
In the year 219BC:
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- Carthage on the Reconquista trip
- Sweboz advance to the East
- Sakae becoming a baltic power, warring with the Sweboz, then becoming their protectorate
- SPQR starting northern expansion
- Ptollies with my help back in life - Makedonian spies made the Seleukid-controlled towns in egypt rebel
In the year 210BC:
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- Seleukids reconquered much of their holdings in Egypt, quarreling with Saba as always, being divided doesn't do them much harm
- Romans slowly expanding into Gaul, attacked the Sweboz, got Vindelicos bribed
- Sweboz further advancing east, again war with the Sakae
- Sarmatae conquering Olbia
In the year 207BC:
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- Sabaens were really tough and finally kicked the Seleukids out of southern Arabia
- Carthage besieging both remaining Lusotannan towns
- Sarmatae conquering the western Crimea, Uspe was a gift of mine
- Baktria wiping out Pahlava, going to war with Sakae. Never wanted to gang up with me on the Seleukids
P.S.: I wiped out the treacherous Getai in the meanwhile, conquering Veldideno
Very cool Sakkura. Like that Lusotannan expansion and Baktria getting shoved into India, but I wish the Nomads were having more luck with the NE Seleukid areas. And wish the Getai were doing a little more.
CN: Awesome stuff too. Love seeing the Sabaeans come back. Liked that Saka empire for a bit. Interesting Iberian activities.
Getai were the only faction doing nothing, and they were really doing absolutely nothing. There was nobody bothering them, nobody even bordering them for ages and ages, but they just sat there with 2 more or less full stack armies watching the grass grow around their capital. Very disappointing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
I loved the way AS were initially beaten back by the Ptolemies but then rebounded, that kind of mirrors history IIRC.
In couple of tests i tried removing half of the garrison units from Naissos and Singidunum(on The Errant's sugestion).Reason fro that was that i was seeing stacks of Getai trying to take those towns and were getting decimated. It did work , as they did took both towns by 260BC..I still think that is little to fast , but this was just fyi about what is possible cause for Getai's lack of progress.
The Getai in my campaign are doing very well :yes:
Romani campaign, 189BC, 0.81a.v2, BI.exe
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Not so long ago the Pahlava were still doing very well, they owned about 15 provinces. Then Baktria and the Sauromatae attacked them simultaneously, and wiped them out in less than 10 years.
The Averni used to own Gaul, Northern Spain, most of Germania, and even parts of Illyria.
I've now captured most of their provinces in Gaul, and the Sweboz and Lusitanians are slowly driving them out of Germania and Spain.
The Lusitanians captured all the Carthaginian provinces in Spain, while I captured the African provinces.
Carthage only has Bocchoris left, they're losing about 8k per turn due to the 2 full stacks they have on the island :laugh4:
Pontos held out quite long, but eventually the Seleucids captured their last province, 10 years ago or so.
Macedonia and the Koinon Hellenon are still surviving in eastern Anatolia and on the islands.
The KH even captured Pantikapaion, and is still holding it :inquisitive:
The Ptolemaioi and the Arche Seleukeia are allies, and constantly besiege my 2 cities in Egypt.
"Captured" isn't the right term when this happens. Think of it this way: Pantikapaion was under the control of another group, and asked for KH assistance or support - sometimes a faction can even have this happen when they don't want to get involved: you have citizens of your faction in that other place and they are involved in some intrigue that leads to the government being overthrown and you are involved whether you like it or not. If you like, you can build an allied government there quickly and just put it on automanage and forget about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy1991
This is my ongoing Sauromatae campaign :
It is only 246BC , since i started it with AI balancing mini mod on VH/M (for testing purposes)with Darth modified formations, 0.81a.v2, Bi.exe and all EB official quickfix patches:
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Pahlava had 5 provinces , but they attacked me in 255 and it took me 8 years of fighting their Cataphracts (yes they are building them since 260 ) to get them out of 4( they still have 2 stacks in Kophen , so they will expand). Now i have Seleuks going after me , and i am allied with Getai and Baktria.
Pontus and Hayasdan are making step forward , step back against Seleukids. Pontus had 5 provinces , they are down to 2 , but they are besieging 2 provinces again.
Hai are doing same thing, they conquered some provinces , but then they lost them thru rebellion.They are besieging them again.
KH and Maks are going back and forth also, sometimes KH has more provinces , sometimes Maks. Epeiros lost Taras very fast so they are concentrating on gaining ground in Balkans , as well Getai.
In general all factions are progressing in good way , IMO, not to fast or to slow(except maybe Saka)..and they all have fair amount of armies (ex. Pontus has 4 full stacks)
Will keep you posted about further developments :beam:
With un-modded EB081av2. Look at the Casse.
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Shot at 2007-06-28
I am Saba.
A bigger picture would be useful :magnify:
Yeah, we can't see that at all really. Welcome aboard though!
Err sorry. I didnt know how to make it only the mini-map and I didnt want the pic so big. I guess a big pic is ok so Ill post it again.
Oh and thanks for the greetings.
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Shot at 2007-06-29
EDIT:Ok not so bad. Thought it would be much bigger.
Here, I resized it for you:
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This is second campaign that i am runing at same time with my Sauromatae campaign, to prevent burnouts.It went much faster.
I am runing this with AI balancing mini mod on VH/H , Darth modified formations, 0.81a.v2, Bi.exe and all EB official quickfix patches:
230:
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220:
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210:
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"Gray death" is no more, they got 2 provinces left, hehe
It's really fun playing with Casse, perfect for RP type of campaign
This is it the progression of my Sauromatae campaign from its humble beginnings to its huge finale.
Played on VH/M with 0.81a and starting from ~217 I started work on the money script so I used a mixture of scripts throughout the campaign, but it always stayed challenging without being absurd like it started to become against the Grey Death.
Objectives map
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251
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I was just starting to get my economy off the ground, mines in Uspe and Gava-Yugra, fights vs HA Eleutheroi are very micro-intensive but the great feeling of steppe combat makes up for it.
241
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Hayasdan attacked me so I had to respond, it proved a stroke of luck in some ways as I had my sights on the Crimeea but the 2 cities there were protected by powerful Eleutheroi. The Hai were not that strong and taking over their cities was good because of their mines and I installed my first allied governments that enabled me to field cheap infantry. But those HA half-catas sting like a :furious3:
The Aedui and Getai had some great expansions, also the KH took over southern Italy and Sicily.
The Getai were peaceful neighbours although I shared a border with them for ~50 years but they never attacked.
217 (missed some serious years here)
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This period was marked by the wars with Parthia mostly the Grivpanhar gave me nightmares I had to take out everything else and them swarm them with the cheap HAs as I could afford very few nobles, but the battles were a lot of fun looking back. As what came next was the innumerable phalanxes of the AS.
The Aedui conquer a lot of lands and the Lusitans start the offensive on Carthage. The KH now totally isolated in Italy are starting to get pounded by the Romans and will eventually exist only on Krete. Baktria got muscled by the AS into a corner were they made valiant stands until they got the protectorate proposal and took it. The Maks blitzed the Getai in a few years and pushed them to the north were the Sweboz now started attacking them as they were under heavy pressure from the Aedui.
The Ptolies were getting crushed by the AS, I was trying my best to help them with spies but the AS seemed not to care and just kept coming back with lots of mercs...:furious3: Casse almost complete their takeover of the British Isles. Epeiros is now a central European enclave after having most of their lands conquered by the Macedonian-Roman alliance.
This is the time when I started working on the money scripts as the AS's endless stacks were really killing me.
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I start sharing a border with the Maks in Nikaia and soon they attack me, they will regret this in time... I start making my decisive moves and move against the AS's best production centers (Selukeia, Susa, Antiocheia) crippling their Cataphract and Thorakitai Argyraspidai production centers.
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I start moving against the Maks with help from the Getai who rebel in Gawjam-Bastarnoz and on the southern front I manage to take the Hellespont. I also border the Saba now who will develop an obsession for Seleukeia and periodically send small armies to the slaughter under the shade of the palm trees.
The Saka wars were fast but brutal I managed to overwhelm them but their catas and HAs made for some very challenging battles.
Lusitans make their power move and the Aedui start getting pounded, just after signing an alliance with me, by the Lusitans, Romans and Sweboz
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I keep gaining territory against the the Maks and stedily take out the AS possessions in Asia Minor. I also take Sidon, Damaskos and Palmyra and gift them to the Ptolies to try and form some sort of anti-AS corridor, of course keeping an army stationed to aid them.
I also incite rebellions with my spies in the eastern-most AS provinces that I have no interest in conquering. Also, Baktria which was holed up in their cities behind lots of cheap infantry is added to my empire.
The Romans start to bloat and end up meeting up with the Iberians as the Aedui are torn up between the 3 hungry hounds (Lusitans, Sweboz and Romans).
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I reinstate the Getai in their territories after taking them from the Maks i gift them to the Getai. The Romans are now fighting the Lusitans, the Sweboz get back their lands from the Aedui who are now cornered.
I start raiding Greece and get the idea to make a nice mosaic so I can keep the factions there in check. Epeiros a central Europe enclave now and the KH isolated to Krete get some offers they can't refuse :yes:
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The Greek mosaic is complete and the alliance with KH seems extremely beneficial trade-wise. It's a real shame that they will develop a fetish for Mytilene and try to swarm it with Hoplitai Haploi and then call for ceasefires... :wall:
Realizing I need Gawjam-Bastarnoz from the Getai I swiftly take it from them along with Buridava and propose them a ceasefire agreement qith me keeping Gaw-B and giving them back Buridava and ~50000 for their trouble. They accept but sadly the peace won't last long as they use the money to raise armies and attack Naissos...:shame:
The Roman-Lusitan conflict seems balanced until some old friends (Carthage) start crossing the Gibraltar with a couple of stacks and begin claiming what was once theirs it was a great thing to witness...
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Also Carthage starts taking Karali and Alalia and storms Sicily (I don't know what got into them... but I love it)
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The Getai are close to the brink of extinction... they left me no choice...:shame:
The Ptolemy puppet regime reaches is largest size and they start to make moves on their own sieging Rhodos but just when I was proud of them they make a ceasefire with the Maks. They have 2 stacks on Salamis that just keep them in debt and the AS put a lot of pressure on the south.
The Sweboz are a minor nuisance with their Baltic infantry they keep sending to certain death.
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The Romans attack me and a lot of legions are trampled under the hooves of my mighty cavalry, also the Getai are now helping me field Drapanai that prove to be quite effective in producing a lot of left-handed Romans :beam:
The Lusitans now getting pushed from 2 fronts are slowly crumbling.
Carthage is moving into Italy but they meet heavy resistance and they will soon stop, their Iberian campaign is going better.
AS starts coming in force and my army is caught by surprise by a powerful army and my great general Beuca the Lame is trampled under some elephants' feet. leaving the Ptolies unprotected for a few critical years in which they manage to lose their empire
The great Saurmag comes of age he will be my Steppe Hannibal.
I named him my faction leader as he was the perfect guy sha/cha/vig and optimistic/unshelfish/loyal. gave him the best education in Seleukeia( I captured it with a Academy) and the best ancillaries from the old governor there (ex great general) and sent him with 10 indian longbowmen, drapanai and Noble HA's to complete my raiding objectives
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Tough times, I even went into debt, Saba bribed Charax and the AS briefly held Antiocheia, a lot of provinces rebelled as I'm in the middle of a generation change with the old influential governors dying off
Steppe Hannibal is touring N Italy and raiding it (notice I'm holding Patavium on the map ) and then he's off for a short stop in Gaul (Vesontio) and then more mayhem in Germania (Gawjam-Hattoz and Swebotraustamnoz)topped off with conquering Ascaulis which seemed to be needed for the victory even though it did not show on the map. The Roman city raids gave me the needed funds to keep my empire in the black and hold off the AS and Saba and the increasingly aggressive Sweboz.
I also gave Segesta, Patavium and Bononia to Epeiros, they were Rome's allies at the time but that quickly changed and their skirmishes gave me breathing room. The Romans were heavily recruiting mercs after running out of proper legionnaires and the Celto-German armies they fielded were quite a turn-off.
I slowly try to reinstate the Ptolies as a buffer zone but it's really frustrating as they can't hold on to the cities.
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Saurmag completes his raiding targets and arrives in Ascaulis with 4 units of Indian Longbowmen(out of the 10 that left with him) and some cavalry they are now all experienced veterans.
I manage to take Ak-Ink. Vindobona and Segestica and hold on to them, the Sweboz bribe some troops (now they got some HAs) and also bribe Lucaroteea which was the last province I conquered after a great heroic victory and then the anti-climactic Victory screen shows up and I feel a mixture of pride and sadness that it's over and try not to count the hours spent on playing this (I started it before Easter).
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Hope it's not too much, I'll remove some of the pics as the last few years are ~5 years apart but a lot happened in pretty fast succession.
Please leave a comment if you enjoyed and had the patience to read through all this.
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Originally Posted by Redmeth
enjoyable write up
wow... i just started a campaign as sauromatae and this kinda scares me of what i might go through... but thats ok ive almost already killed Pahlava and im only about 25 years in :2thumbsup: and my economy is looking good i was even the richest faction for 2 turns with 16k :laugh4: but then i made an army for pahlava killing and i have a steady 3~7k treasury each turn which isnt bad for a steppe faction at the begining of the game.. right? at least im not negative :yes: after im done with pahlava i think its gonna be hai season :smash: for some mines
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As you can see, the only faction not to expand is the Sara, course they have an army heading south IIRC.
Very enjoyable Redmeth! Hope we can give you something fun now to turn to!! :grin:
I'm been playing as the Casse on VH/M, and this is the Winter of 198 B.C.
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Since this thread is about A.I. expansion, I feel compelle to say Lusotana was doing pretty well until they declared war on me. It was a little earlier than I wanted, but I responded by recruited two full stacks, each with ten Lugoae, four Gaeroas, four Botroas, one Cymwr and one general. The both landed in the two west coast provinces in the fall of 214, and marched another army from Messalia. What followed was a very tense and enjoyable fourteen year war, as I led three stacks to conqueor Iberia while trying to keep the Romans at bay. Lusotana actually had conquered most of Iberia, when I landed that had it all except Celtiberia, Cantabria and the two Karthadast provinces. During my conquest they managed to take Cantabria and Aquitae from the Averni, so I imagine they would have been pretty strong if I hadn't done anything.
This is my second EB campaign and my longest one so far, and I must say I'm enjoying myself immensely. When I started out I left one general in Camulosadae to administer, and sent everyone else west. Once I was at war with the Eleutheroi, the sent two full stacks one after another. I was pretty worried when the second one showed up and Barae got backed into the very end of the western penninsula, but he prevailed and got a "Famous Battle" marker there. After that he conquered the British Isles, then landed at Darioritum. With the exception of Bibracte and Burdigala, he conquered all the Gallic provinces that are currently in my posession. He took Cenabum from the Aedui, and Lemonum, Avaricum, Gergovia and Viennos from the Romans. He left another "famous battle" on the western bridge to Viennos, and died right after taking that city. I decied to make sure there was a suitable mausoleum for him there. It was after this that I invaded Lusotanna.
Speaking of which, there's an interesting story there. Throughout Barae's life, he kept the same units he had when the campaign started,with few additions. Eventually I sent those veterans with Barae's grandson, Aganwyn, to take Celtiberia from the Eleutheroi before Lusotanna could. In fact, it was his succesful conquest that led to Lusotana's attack on me. After a successful siege defense I had him sit outside so he could ambush invading Lusotannians, but he was bribed by the Romans! All of Barae's veterans were disbanded except for a unit of Gaeroas. I tried to find him and bribe him back, but he disappeared and the Lusotania conquered Celtiberia.
A few years later, while my invasion of Iberia was underway, he resurfaced in the west as part of a massive Roman counterattack. They took Mediolanum, Massalia and Aventicos (which I still haven't recovered), as well as Viennos. Aganwyn took Gergovia, and another army managed to take Avaricum. This took quite a while, as I was spending as much of my money as I good to get the Iberian war over fast. Then, the Romans collapsed. In the space of less then a year I took back Avaricum, Gergovia and Viennos. My allies the Avernia, who at the time were only succesful in as much as they were still alive, took Massalia. And I finally got revenge on Aganywn in (appropriately enough) Viennos, killing him and taking the city in the same way his grandfather had done so many years before. By then I had taken Iberia from Lusotanna and Carthage, and it was then that the Romans made a very impressive (for the A.I.) move. They made peace with me, and on the next turn went to war with Carthage. I'm really rooting for them, as Carthage is in a dead heat with Baktria, the Ptolemaioi, and Makedonia for the world's strongest power.
Finally, I think the Aedui deserve some praise. When I kicked them out of Gaul I expect them to flounder, but they managed to recover somewhat and even expand by taking Segestica from the Romans.
Very nice description of things. That's a really cool Macedonian empire too, around the black sea especially. Glad you're enjoying it!