Kung Fu Mafia [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by Redleg

Tsk Tsk an inadequate response. Attempting to counter by saying I over-reacted by asking a simple question and pointing out your error. It seems you are indeed scummy in this game.

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~:handball: You didn't just ask a question you said:

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You need to explain this Ichigo. Why are you attempting to claim a vote of eight for lynching Pannonian when the current vote tally is six? You have committed a very scummy tactic that should get you lynched in my opinion.

Unvote; Vote Ichigo

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You said I was scummy and should be lynched. Which, in fact could be just you trying to kill me off because of some small mistake I made.

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Originally Posted by Orb

Challenge: Killfr3nzy
Reason: Only posted to join, and this'll knock you down if you're mafia. Plus, Ichi's already going to try to dent TS' ego. I could do it far better, but...

GK, I appreciate the argument, but fake reveals are damn common, and I do not want to fall for that.

Xehh II 1 (Sapi)
Warluster 1 (Stig)
TS 3 (Blackaxe, Ichi, TS)
Pannonian 2 (Roadkill, Orb)
Omanes 1 (Redleg)

Redleg challenged Pevergreen
Ichi challenged TS
Orb challenged Killfr3nzy

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I couldn't find where TS voted for himself, and even if he did Pannonian voted for TS too.

I guess Orb should be lynched too, and everyone else to that used his count using your logic.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

~:handball: You didn't just ask a question you said:

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Oh yes I did ask a question, now didn't I. Now I did follow it with a statement because of the nature of your tactic, and futhermore it seems you failed to probably read the response. Notice that I stated I pointed out your error. It seems your scummy tactic of not reading the sentence in its entirity is leading you astray. You must be scum in this game.

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You said I was scummy and should be lynched. Which, in fact could be just you trying to kill me off because of some small mistake I made.

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Oh it wasn't a small mistake since the tally was posted just a few posts above yours, (about 10 posts but on the exact same page as your post.) So either your telling another lie, or your demonstrating that your scum in this game. So the vote remains - your scummy in my opinion until better evidence is presented that demonstrates that you are not. Spamming and then lying about miscounting.

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I guess Orb should be lynched too, and everyone else to that used his count using your logic.

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Tsk Tsk another weak rebuttal. It seems your attempting a scummy tactic once again. You must indeed be mafia with such a scummy attempt at defending yourself.

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Originally Posted by Redleg

Oh yes I did ask a question, now didn't I. Now I did follow it with a statement because of the nature of your tactic, and futhermore it seems you failed to probably read the response. Notice that I stated I pointed out your error. It seems your scummy tactic of not reading the sentence in its entirity is leading you astray. You must be scum in this game.



Oh it wasn't a small mistake since the tally was posted just a few posts above yours, (about 10 posts but on the exact same page as your post.) So either your telling another lie, or your demonstrating that your scum in this game. So the vote remains - your scummy in my opinion until better evidence is presented that demonstrates that you are not. Spamming and then lying about miscounting.



Tsk Tsk another weak rebuttal. It seems your attempting a scummy tactic once again. You must indeed be mafia with such a scummy attempt at defending yourself.

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I never said you didn't ask a question.

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You didn't just ask a question you said

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Actually never mind I won't bother with the rest of your reply.

Unvote:TS, Vote:Redleg

Vote: Redleg
It is not a bandwagon, as what Ichigo says is true. You are thorwing everything u can at Ichigo to get rid of him, even as small of a mistake of making a wrong count. Very suspicious.

Redleg, wtf man? He miscounted and you are freaking out. You said the word scummy like 40 times also for no reason. You are trying WAY to hard to make a case of Ichigo for counting 8 instead of 6. This seems like a noobish mafia tactic imo.

Unvote, Vote; Redleg

Current vote count my my records:


Pannonian: 5 (Orb, Stig, Faust, Pannonian, Xehh II)
No lynch: 1 (GH)
BlackAxe: 3 (Kommo, Sapi, CF)
Xehh II: 1 (Xdeathfire)
Ichigo: 1 (Redleg)
Redleg: 4 (BK, Ichigo, RoadKill, BlackAxe)

Redleg challenges Pevergreen
Ichi challenges TS
Stig challenges Pannonian
Sapi challenges Roadkill
Orb challenges Xehh II
Sigurd Fafnesbane challenges Ignoramus
Roadkill challenges Sapi




I think this is right. Someone else confirm it.

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Originally Posted by BlackAxe3001

Redleg, wtf man? He miscounted and you are freaking out. You said the word scummy like 40 times also for no reason. You are trying WAY to hard to make a case of Ichigo for counting 8 instead of 6. This seems like a noobish mafia tactic imo.

Unvote, Vote; Redleg

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In response to the post: Saying scummy doesn't matter that much, and I'm pretty sure he only said it once, though I could be wrong. You're right about him over-reacting, but you and Road-Kill are bandwagoning, it seems. Why do you keep jumping from person to person that the town doesn't seem to like? :inquisitive: That's mafia-like, right? I agree with Kommo's post that was interrogating you for suspicious behavior, though he could be a mafia trying to take suspicion off himself, by accusing a fellow mafia, then dropping it like it seemed he did, to make it seem like he dropped the case, cause you're reasoning was "ok"; although that might've been him having to go to sleep. Anyway, I don't think you are pro-town.

Chugg

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You need to explain this Ichigo. Why are you attempting to claim a vote of eight for lynching Pannonian when the current vote tally is six? You have committed a very scummy tactic that should get you lynched in my opinion.

Unvote; Vote Ichigo

TheStranger 2 (Blackaxe, Ichi)
Pannonian 6 (Roadkill, Orb, Stig, Faust, Pannonian, Xehh)
Ichigo 1 (Redleg)
Redleg 1 (ByzKnight)
BlackAxe 3 (Kommo, Sapi, CF)
Xehh 1 (Xdeahfire)

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Tsk Tsk an inadequate response. Attempting to counter by saying I over-reacted by asking a simple question and pointing out your error. It seems you are indeed scummy in this game.

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Originally Posted by Redleg

Oh yes I did ask a question, now didn't I. Now I did follow it with a statement because of the nature of your tactic, and futhermore it seems you failed to probably read the response. Notice that I stated I pointed out your error. It seems your scummy tactic of not reading the sentence in its entirity is leading you astray. You must be scum in this game.



Oh it wasn't a small mistake since the tally was posted just a few posts above yours, (about 10 posts but on the exact same page as your post.) So either your telling another lie, or your demonstrating that your scum in this game. So the vote remains - your scummy in my opinion until better evidence is presented that demonstrates that you are not. Spamming and then lying about miscounting.



Tsk Tsk another weak rebuttal. It seems your attempting a scummy tactic once again. You must indeed be mafia with such a scummy attempt at defending yourself.

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Oh yes, I love to draw attention to myself. I am an attention whore. Mafia love to be attention whores. Vote blackaxe for changing his mind like 6 other people did because he is not pro-town. Changing your mind is suspicious in every way possible. Oh, don't forget to vote blackaxe. /sarcasm /rant


Redleg also said scummy way more than once. Go read the posts again. It's also more than just saying scummy many times. He is adamant about attacking Ichigo for improper count. I just redid the count and almost everyone had the count wrong one way or another. His continuous attack on Ichigo is unnecessary, yet he keeps at it. This attack was out of the blue and is quite suspicious, more so than The Strangers randomness, and that is why I changed my vote.

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Originally Posted by sapi

Kommodus, thanks for reminding me of BlackAxe's unvote.

I knew something was bothering me.

Unvote: Roadkill
Vote: BlackAxe

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This doesnt seem very legit, more like an excuse to bandwagon...

Unvote: Roadkill;Vote: sapi

FoS: BlackAxe, you are acting very suspicious...

And I still dont understand how the whole Redleg bandwagon took off, there doesnt seem to be much thought going into it...

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Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight

This doesnt seem very legit, more like an excuse to bandwagon...

Unvote: Roadkill;Vote: sapi

FoS: BlackAxe, you are acting very suspicious...

And I still dont understand how the whole Redleg bandwagon took off, there doesnt seem to be much thought going into it...

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Hmmm someone hasn't been reading up on there mafia...

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Originally Posted by BK

FoS: BlackAxe, you are acting very suspicious...

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How so? I have provided a good reason for my vote. I don't see how I am acting any more suspicious than anyone else.


Also, three people have voted. I wouldn't call that a bandwagon. Tran had a bandwagon, this is not one.... yet.

Also, your last vote wasn't on RoadKill, it was on Redleg......... ugh...

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=429

Please people, try to remember who you voted for, or at least check. It takes two minutes. Also post the vote count after you vote... that's also not hard to do.

Vote Count:

Pannonian: 5 (Orb, Stig, Faust, Pannonian, Xehh II)
No lynch: 1 (GH)
BlackAxe: 3 (Kommo, Sapi, CF)
Xehh II: 1 (Xdeathfire)
Ichigo: 1 (Redleg)
Redleg: 3 (Ichigo, RoadKill, BlackAxe)
Sapi: 1 (BK)

Redleg challenges Pevergreen
Ichi challenges TS
Stig challenges Pannonian
Sapi challenges Roadkill
Orb challenges Xehh II
Sigurd Fafnesbane challenges Ignoramus
Roadkill challenges Sapi

:laugh4:

Roadkill:
Vote: Redleg
It is not a bandwagon, as what Ichigo says is true. You are thorwing everything u can at Ichigo to get rid of him, even as small of a mistake of making a wrong count. Very suspicious.


No, he got a bit annoyed at Ichigo. It happens. It is not very suspicious.

Blackaxe:
Redleg, wtf man? He miscounted and you are freaking out. You said the word scummy like 40 times also for no reason. You are trying WAY to hard to make a case of Ichigo for counting 8 instead of 6. This seems like a noobish mafia tactic imo.
Unvote, Vote; Redleg

Redleg is experienced. It is not a mafia tactic at all. Im pegging that to both of you still being pretty new.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

Hmmm someone hasn't been reading up on there mafia...

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I have been reading... It just doesnt seem like a very strong case...

@BlackAxe: You are jumping around on every vote, i'm keeping count of every vote, chalange, and suspicious post in a Worksheet, my info tells me that you are suspicious, thats why...

Obviously your count is wrong. See my previous post. You can't even keep track of your own votes, let alone everyone else's votes.

You have yet to provide evidence to my so called "suspiciousness" other than this so called "worksheet" that apparently is omniscient and tells you all the info you want to know.

I changed votes once this round, how is that jumping around every other vote since I have only voted twice to begin with?

I want answers and you have yet to provide any that have substance to them.

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

:laugh4:

Roadkill:
Vote: Redleg
It is not a bandwagon, as what Ichigo says is true. You are thorwing everything u can at Ichigo to get rid of him, even as small of a mistake of making a wrong count. Very suspicious.


No, he got a bit annoyed at Ichigo. It happens. It is not very suspicious.

Blackaxe:
Redleg, wtf man? He miscounted and you are freaking out. You said the word scummy like 40 times also for no reason. You are trying WAY to hard to make a case of Ichigo for counting 8 instead of 6. This seems like -snip- mafia tactic imo.
Unvote, Vote; Redleg

Redleg is experienced. It is not a mafia tactic at all. Im pegging that to both of you still being pretty new.

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snip Might wanna cover that up before anyone notices.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

Your noobness is showing pever. Might wanna cover that up before anyone notices.

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Kinda hard when you are quoting it...

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Originally Posted by BlackAxe3001

Obviously your count is wrong. See my previous post. You can't even keep track of your own votes, let alone everyone else's votes.

You have yet to provide evidence to my so called "suspiciousness" other than this so called "worksheet" that apparently is omniscient and tells you all the info you want to know.

I changed votes once this round, how is that jumping around every other vote since I have only voted twice to begin with?

I want answers and you have yet to provide any that have substance to them.

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I never said it was infalable, thats why i'm waiting for more information before posting...

I am refering to the end of the first round, you started jumping around on every vote that you could.

And I am definatly not ready to submit my worksheet, i still have to follow up on a couple leads.

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Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight

Kinda hard when you are quoting it...

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Unvote
Vote: Blackaxe

As BZK said your acting suspicious, what are you hiding? This wasn't your first bandwagon, why vote for poor Redleg, because he uses the word scummy?


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Outright calling someone a noob is bordering on insults. Continue this way and i'll just block your posts Ichigo.

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

Outright calling someone a noob is bordering on insults. Continue this way and i'll just block your posts Ichigo.

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No one called you a noob. Someone doesn't know how to take a joke.

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Originally Posted by Stig

Unvote
Vote: Blackaxe

As BZK said your acting suspicious, what are you hiding? This wasn't your first bandwagon, why vote for poor Redleg, because he uses the word scummy?


scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy, scummy

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Bandwagoning isn't very important in this game until it is the 7th or 8th vote on someone. This isn't a normal mafia game, it's not timed. It's amazing how many people rely on that when there voting since a mafiosi isn't likely to bandwagon at all.

It is when you are voting for someone who has not been proven quilty

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Originally Posted by Stig

It is when you are voting for someone who has not been proven quilty

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I'm hoping by quilty you mean guilty otherwise this is extremely weird. No it's not since the only way you're going to prove someone guilty is if the detective reveals and they have a guilty result other than that all you can go on is posting changes from game-to-game, tone of their posts, etc. other than some choice things all you have is your gut instincts.

Pannonion is innocent - his role will remain confidential as long as he wishes it to.
Vote: sapi (if it's not too late)

My informant informs me that sapi left the shop last night with either an Antidote, Weak Poison, or Strong Poison. My informant tells me that this would be the best option as a vote due to the chance that it is more likely to be a deadly package than a not-so-deadly package. sapi, my informant wants to know - what did you buy?

The Ichigo-Redleg box match: I know Redleg a bit and I can tell you this is not abnormal behavior for him. He doesn't like it when players don't take the game serious and start to spam or post in an annoying way (remember the youtube links Ichigo posted first round, I'm pretty sure this qualifies as "annoying" in Redlegs' book). Redleg wants to get rid off an annoying, "disturbing" player, hence his witch hunt. He doesn't like it when people ruin the game for him.

As for Ichigo, well, it's Ichigo :laugh4: But I think he's going back to his "normal" behaviour now, but maybe that is because he's being questioned and threatened with a lynching? :inquisitive: Nah, I don't think Ichigo is guilty in this game. Mildly suspicious, acting slightly different, but not guilty.

So, I'd suggest not to keep focusing on those two.

If Omanes is right, the eye of the inquisition should turn its' attention to sapi. He has alot to explain. As does Omanes. You are being a bit cryptic. Can someone confirm the correctness of your 'contact'? Maybe you or your 'contact' should contact Pannonian and ask him to tell us that you are telling the truth?

As for BlackAxe, I've seen his aggressive posting style before, but in this game, it seems more aggressive than usual. I'd keep an eye on him. If sapi comes with a decent explanation or Omanes' 'contact' doesn't get confirmed, BlackAxe seems like the lynch for today.

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Originally Posted by Andres

The Ichigo-Redleg box match: I know Redleg a bit and I can tell you this is not abnormal behavior for him. He doesn't like it when players don't take the game serious and start to spam or post in an annoying way (remember the youtube links Ichigo posted first round, I'm pretty sure this qualifies as "annoying" in Redlegs' book). Redleg wants to get rid off an annoying, "disturbing" player, hence his witch hunt. He doesn't like it when people ruin the game for him.

As for Ichigo, well, it's Ichigo :laugh4: But I think he's going back to his "normal" behaviour now, but maybe that is because he's being questioned and threatened with a lynching? :inquisitive: Nah, I don't think Ichigo is guilty in this game. Mildly suspicious, acting slightly different, but not guilty.

So, I'd suggest not to keep focusing on those two.

If Omanes is right, the eye of the inquisition should turn its' attention to sapi. He has alot to explain. As does Omanes. You are being a bit cryptic. Can someone confirm the correctness of you 'contact'? Maybe you or your 'contact' should contact Pannonian and ask him to tell us that you are telling the truth?

As for BlackAxe, I've seen his aggressive posting style before, but in this game, it seems more aggressive than usual. I'd keep an eye on him. If sapi comes with a decent explanation or Omanes' 'contact' doesn't get confirmed, BlackAxe seems like the lynch for today.

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I was threatened with a lynch? Why wasn't I informed of this? I guess it got lost in the mail. Figures.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

I was threatened with a lynch? Why wasn't I informed of this? I guess it got lost in the mail. Figures.

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You came under fire. People picked on Redleg, but it was perfectly possible people where going to vote you instead of him.

Don't try to minimalise the argument by ridiculising it.

But then again, that's your usual style, so I guess you're innocent :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Andres

You came under fire. People picked on Redleg, but it was perfectly possible people where going to vote you instead of him.

Don't try to minimalise the argument by ridiculising it.

But then again, that's your usual style, so I guess you're innocent :laugh4:

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Oh come on, are you trying to get me killed? Even from the grave, Andres, even from the grave.:wall:

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

Oh come on, are you trying to get me killed? Even from the grave, Andres, even from the grave.:wall:

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Originally Posted by Andres

I don't think Ichigo is guilty in this game. Mildly suspicious, acting slightly different, but not guilty.

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Originally Posted by Andres

so I guess you're innocent

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~:confused:

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Originally Posted by Andres

~:confused:

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:yes:

Unvote: Pannonian
Vote: Sapi

I'd like Sapi to explain his purchase. Antidote seems an awfully specific anti-mafia countermeasure (why not weapons?), while poison is even more incriminating.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Pannonian: 3 (Orb, Faust, Xehh II)
No lynch: 1 (GH)
BlackAxe: 4 (Kommo, Sapi, CF, Stig)
Xehh II: 1 (Xdeathfire)
Ichigo: 1 (Redleg)
Redleg: 3 (Ichigo, RoadKill, BlackAxe)
Sapi: 3 (BK, Pannonian, Omanes)

Redleg challenges Pevergreen
Ichi challenges TS
Stig challenges Pannonian
Sapi challenges Roadkill
Orb challenges Xehh II
Sigurd Fafnesbane challenges Ignoramus
Roadkill challenges Sapi

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

Unvote: Pannonian
Vote: Sapi

I'd like Sapi to explain his purchase. Antidote seems an awfully specific anti-mafia countermeasure (why not weapons?), while poison is even more incriminating.

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Wait, where does ir say Sapi purchased antidote ?

I'm not used to the pace in these games anymore :embarassed:

vote:abstain

I've got nothing to go on right now. Might change it later.

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Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Pannonian: 3 (Orb, Faust, Xehh II)
No lynch: 1 (GH)
BlackAxe: 4 (Kommo, Sapi, CF, Stig)
Xehh II: 1 (Xdeathfire)
Ichigo: 1 (Redleg)
Redleg: 3 (Ichigo, RoadKill, BlackAxe)
Sapi: 3 (BK, Pannonian, Omanes)

Redleg challenges Pevergreen
Ichi challenges TS
Stig challenges Pannonian
Sapi challenges Roadkill
Orb challenges Xehh II
Sigurd Fafnesbane challenges Ignoramus
Roadkill challenges Sapi

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Gee, thanks, Omanes, a chance to explain this via PM would have been nice....

Yes, I brought an antidote.

Yes, that's an anti-mafia measure. It's a means of defending myself against an attack that I knew that I would be courting when I proposed a measured use of the Kung Fu system.

It is quite interesting to note that someone has the ability to watch the shop and see what is brought (evidenced by Pannonian's insistence that it was not visited N1 and someone seeing me with a bottle N2)

And before someone brings this up, I got the extra money though being the recipient of Tran's cash after his unfortunate lynching - this is why I know that he is innocent, as a mafioso would have kept the money within the circle.

So can we turn the inquisition's eyes away from a townie who was trying to defend himself and towards the people who caused the death of an innocent?

BlackAxe has completely failed to defend himself, and deserves the town's scrutiny.

My vote on him stands.

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Originally Posted by sapi

someone seeing me with a bottle N2)

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Maybe Pannonian or Omanes can buy anti-dote the next night, just to make sure it does come in a bottle.

I just assumed it came in a bottle, as that was the only unifying characteristic I could think of between the three items Omanes mentioned...

Antidote will be too expensive to test-buy, btw

vote: BlackAxe


What did you buy at the store ?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Pannonian: 3 (Orb, Faust, Xehh II)
No lynch: 1 (GH)
BlackAxe: 5 (Kommo, Sapi, CF, Stig, doc)
Xehh II: 1 (Xdeathfire)
Ichigo: 1 (Redleg)
Redleg: 3 (Ichigo, RoadKill, BlackAxe)
Sapi: 3 (BK, Pannonian, Omanes)

Redleg challenges Pevergreen
Ichi challenges TS
Stig challenges Pannonian
Sapi challenges Roadkill
Orb challenges Xehh II
Sigurd Fafnesbane challenges Ignoramus
Roadkill challenges Sapi

Unvote: sapi

Blackaxe - my suspitions now rest upon you. What did you purchase on night one? Also, as others have said, you are yet to defend yourself - why? All I can see out of you is nothing but shifty acting and action.

Vote: BlackAxe

Unchallenge, Challenge: Redleg

Scummy vote support.

Can you unchallenge?

Interesting what a discussion will bring up.

I am still not statified with Omanes answers because they are still cryptic, but I am almost certain that he is for a town victory. It seems that most if not all have determined that Pannonian is also at least a pro-townie.

Ichigo is still all over the place and is annoying as hell, but is he mafia is the question?

Now the following players have not yet voted this round as of right now, taken from the tally so the abstain votes are being edited now. Found Sigard's post but did not notice a vote.

Warmaster Horus
pevergreen - Posted but did not vote
Greaterkhaan
Crazed Rabbit
CountArach
Warluster
Sigurd - posted but did not vote
Ignoramus
Killfrenzy
Ultrawar - posted but did not vote
TwilightBlade
The_Stranger - posted but did not vote
HughTower
Kagemusha
Beefy187

Current Tally adding Omanes vote

Pannonian: 3 (Orb, Faust, Xehh II)
No lynch: 1 (GH)
BlackAxe: 6 (Kommo, Sapi, CF, Stig, doc, Omanes)
Xehh II: 1 (Xdeathfire)
Ichigo: 1 (Redleg)
Redleg: 3 (Ichigo, RoadKill, BlackAxe)
Sapi: 3 (BK, Pannonian, Omanes)

Redleg challenges Pevergreen
Ichi challenges TS
Stig challenges Pannonian
Sapi challenges Roadkill
Orb challenges Xehh II
Sigurd Fafnesbane challenges Ignoramus
Roadkill challenges Sapi

One vote to lynch BA

Are we happy with this choice?

I'm confident, but we should make use of our extra time if anyone has any doubts...

Well going back and reading the posts - I can see where BlackAxe has condemned himself. Especially with the noob comment directed at me. However I don't know if we should finalize the vote yet with a lynch directed at him.

Several people have not particapted in the voting - while looking into the thread. Primarily Sigard and Ultrawar, this raises them to questionable status in my eyes. Each posted just once but did not vote.

Now I don't have Pevergreen listed as voting in the tally, but he also has been posting a lot, so I wonder if all of us have missed his vote. With that much activity from him it would be highly unlikely that he has not voted. Went back through the thread and found that he has not voted. This is also highly questionable to me.

The Stranger has also posted in the thread since the last mafia killing but has not voted. Which with him is not questionable, but his lack of spamming in this thread is.

Awwww...Im not suspicious, but i look at good candidates for lynch..

Ichigo would vote me for being a "crybaby"

Anyone else would be seen as bandwagoning and get me votes from Blackaxe and Roadkill.

Tomorrow i will vote, in about 14 hours. Sleep now. :yes:

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Originally Posted by BlackAxe3001

Redleg also said scummy way more than once. Go read the posts again. It's also more than just saying scummy many times. He is adamant about attacking Ichigo for improper count. I just redid the count and almost everyone had the count wrong one way or another. His continuous attack on Ichigo is unnecessary, yet he keeps at it. This attack was out of the blue and is quite suspicious, more so than The Strangers randomness, and that is why I changed my vote.

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Yeah, sorry about the "scummy" thing. I thought he said it just once... :embarassed: Not wanting to start a bandwagon. (That's what it seems like to me, not the 7-8 vote thing)

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Originally Posted by sapi

One vote to lynch BA

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This round it's 8 votes to lynch, so you need two more votes if BlackAxe is the lynch of today. BlackAxe also got attacked by Kommodus earlier on this round.

Redleg - I'm glad to hear that you accepted my explainations as being factual. I would be less cryptic, yet my infomant, whom I am speaking for most of the time, wishes me to be as inconspicous as possible to avoid him from being detected by the mafia and ending his good work for the town.

Well, Pannonian and Omanes' mysterious contact seem to be complementary. Pever confirmed part of the information Pannonian got last night. So all of this seems true.

I wonder though, why CA, HughTower nor TwilightBlade posted in the thread to confirm Pannonians reveal ...

Both CA and HughTower are usually pretty active in mafia games :inquisitive:

Where are you guys?

I like to remind the town that dead cannot pm, so if the mafia kills Omanes, we lose our contact with his 'contact'.

If there already is some sort of townies network, I suggest you protect both Pannonian and Omanes next night.

Just a few quick notes on recent comments:

1. It seems more likely to me that sapi did indeed buy the antidote than poison. I say this because I think the mafia can use weapons and poison without buying them, so why would they?

However, an antidote costs 40 gold, so he must have acquired the extra money from somewhere. The only thing he could've afforded on his own would be weak poison. I just can't think of a reason anyone would want that.

Also, it's possible I'm wrong and that the mafia need to buy poison to use it. I don't think this is the case, but if it is, the mafia would've probably had to pool their money so that one of them could get a dose of strong poison.

2. Regarding Ichigo, he gets a big FoS from me. I've been suspicious of him since the start of the game, but it's not enough (yet) to warrant my vote.

3. I believed Pannonian to be legit because his story seemed consistent to me, both internally and with the comments of others. Of course I'll keep watching, just as I watch everybody.

OK, it could be that Pann's mafia and is using his compadres to cover up, but that's a bit of a stretch for me.

I *think* Pann is innocent.

I'm not certain that blackaxe is guilty. Redleg's suspicious because of his anti-Ichigo tirade, but I think that's just his style. Sapi's suspicious because of the bottle bought. I'm not sure he's guilty either. Tran leaving him his money is a good enough reasoning for me.

The Mafia can presumably do vigilante style kills as well as their normal ones.

Oh, and Unvote: Pann

Unvote;

Challenge: Redleg

BA and Redleg are my top suspects. BA why did you buy something night one? How did you get enough money to do so?

Vote: BlackAxe

Pannonian: 3 (Xehh II)
No lynch: 1 (GH)
BlackAxe: 6 (Kommo, Sapi, CF, Stig, doc, Omanes, Faust)
Xehh II: 1 (Xdeathfire)
Ichigo: 1 (Redleg)
Redleg: 3 (Ichigo, RoadKill, BlackAxe)
Sapi: 3 (BK, Pannonian, Omanes)

Redleg challenges Pevergreen
Ichi challenges TS
Stig challenges Pannonian
Sapi challenges Roadkill
Orb challenges Xehh II
Sigurd Fafnesbane challenges Ignoramus
Roadkill challenges Sapi
Faust challenges Redleg

One more to lynch.

Corrected vote tally:

Pannonian: 1 (Xehh II)
No lynch: 1 (GH)
BlackAxe: 7 (Kommo, Sapi, CF, Stig, doc, Omanes, Faust)
Xehh II: 1 (Xdeathfire)
Ichigo: 1 (Redleg)
Redleg: 3 (Ichigo, RoadKill, BlackAxe)
Sapi: 3 (BK, Pannonian, Omanes)

Medicinal herbs, IIRC and prayer scrolls both cost 10 gold.

One more vote needed to lynch.
Please take a moment to think before killing off the guy.

vote blackaxe, to finish this fase

oh and challenge Sapi cuz he's suspicious

forgot to bold my vote but i cant edit... so srry

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

vote blackaxe, to finish this fase

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"to finish this fase" is your motivation to vote BlackAxe? Not only to vote him, but also to cast the decisive vote leading to his dead?

You could have least tried to give a decent explanation...

BlackAxe's dead is inevitable now, but you still have a chance to explain yourself, for instance: right now.

:whip:

EDIT: and by voting BlackAxe, the day came to an end and your challenge is not valid imo. You should have first challenged and then ended the day by voting BlackAxe.

allright... read through all the pages... and im laughing my ass off... Damn I'm a popular target :P and im barely playing...

Anyway to clear a few things up... I missed the attack on me... couldnt find it anywhere so I don't know what to defend against. Pann i havent replied your pm cuz i didnt got it...

Now, i will return playing pokemon and meditate to whip Ichigo's but or whoever challenged me...

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But no explanation for your BlackAxe vote... :inquisitive:

Back to your casket zombie AndresOfTheDead

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

a few more words

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But still no explanation for your vote :no:

Are you bored with this game? If so, there's always the possibility of suicide. Just pm Sasaki and ask him to remove you from the game.

If not, you should try to put some effort in your posts from now on, or our peaceful meditating townies will transform in an angry mob wanting to lynch you.

So much for taking a moment to think - TS is above such mundane activities as "thinking". AFAIK BA hasn't been on since the recent rush of votes, thus he hasn't had a chance to explain himself.

Sapi, you claimed to have bought a bottle of antidote, using money pooled with Tran's. It might seem forward of me, but I'd like to verify that claim. From the townie PM:

You may gift your gold or purchased items to any other player at any time.

Could you hand over the antidote to someone? If they can confirm that you do indeed have a bottle of antidote, then we can eliminate that particular line of suspicion from consideration, after which you should be given it back, of course. Since I'm the one asking you to do this, I don't expect people to trust my word on it, so pick someone else. IIRC Byzantine Knight and Omanes also raised suspicions about you early on, so I'd pick someone other than those two as well. Kommodus would do, or Redleg.

well, well Pann, no need to get rude and start saying mean things to people... I might be crazy but I have feelings, oke!

And Andres, been there done that, the angry mob likes me, what can I say, I just love them back.

BlackAxe has been lynched.

Mafia can perform vigilante kills if they purchase extra items--it will be an extra kill for them.

You may unchallenge.

I will post the write up when I get back from the dentist.

what and how is unchallenge?

Thanks for letting me get a chance to respond........NOT.

Some people do have to sleep you know. As for giving out all the info I had to prove my innocence and give you info as to who else was innocent, well not anymore. Enjoy suffering, because you all just failed miserably. Also, if that wasn't the biggest bandwagon since Tran, I don't know what was.



To answer a few questions and rant a bit about how mafia is played:



What did I buy? Hmmm... wow, if you people would ACTUALLY READ, you can buy things that only cost 10 Gold. Wow, amazing. FoS on those who voted for me because I didn't say what I bought. Why should I have to anyway? It was obvious that I could buy one of the 10 Gold items. Exactly how many votes did I get for buying something? What a lame reason to lynch me... Nice work again...


Those who voted for me because I have yet to defend myself:

Nice work AGAIN!!!! Wow, if you would check the last time people were on you would see that: "Oh wow, BA hasn't been on since after midnight. I bet he is tired as hell from having to work all weekend on overtime and decided to sleep in on his only day off, since mafia isn't his life. Thanks makes since, maybe I will post saying 'Hey, BA, when you get your lazy butt out of bed, defend yourself, else I will vote you' since that would be the rational thing to do and would be best for the town". Like I said, NICE WORK FELLAS!!!


Also, just curious, exactly what was the big reason for my lynching? I have yet to find any hard evidence to why I am so guilty. It's all weak and basic "suspicious" acts, like changing my vote ONCE this round, or having "weak defenses". Right, show me these so called "weak defenses" other than defending from Kommo's attack, as I was ultra-exhausted from having to work over 12 hours some days, plus working on the weekend I just didnt care enough to provide a decent defense. Seriously people, think outside the box. Also, my aggressive behavior is my defense. Is this not obvious? Comeon people, everyone has their own way for defending themselves. Why should I be passive in my defensive and look weak? No way. You attack me, I am going to come right back at you. Amazing how this all makes sense when you sit down and spend a few minutes thinking about it. Genious.

One other thing, suspicious acts are: not posting the whole round and then casting the final vote without ANY supporting facts or reasons. That would also be a bandwagon vote from my understanding. Not that TS is guilty, just dang dude, give me a change to defend myself. That was pretty low, same for the rest of you. I suggest that for future lynchings that if someone hasn't been logged on for awhile, maybe, just MAYBE they are busy or are sleeping, or whatnot. Think JUST a little bit and that might just cause the town to win instead of lynching someone who had so much info that its ridiculous.



My random thoughts are probably not organized the best, but in my short time that I have to post here before taking care of personal business on my day off I wanted to rant a bit and maybe make a difference in how these mafia games are played. Just give people a chance to explain. Not everyone is on the computer 24/7. Also, I know I may have not followed my own advice in the past, but due to the recent events, my policy has changed. So don't call me a hypocrite.

Thanks for your time
-BA

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Well I voted you because I thought you had something to hide. With my vote I had put a 4th vote on you and since that would mean half of the required votes I would have expected you to defend ... but you weren't here.

Can Sapi give his antidote to Kommodus or Redleg so we can confirm that he did indeed buy antidote, not poison, on night 2? Once Kommo or Red has confirmed it, they can give it back for Sapi's use.

Seriously TS, your bragging is starting to annoy me. Sasaki, can I do a Kung Fu night kill on TS, or is that the preserve of the mafia? Why did you put the lynch vote on Blackaxe before he could defend himself?

Why Redleg? He was extremely suspicious in his continued attacks on Ichigo last round. If I didn't recognise that from CDTC, I would have pushed for his lynching.

Blackie, you leave the item to me and I'll confirm what it was. Something was *very* suspicious about the whole lynching thing here.

Li Fujian is dragged kicking and screaming to the edge of the cliff and thrown over.

BlackAxe: 8 (Kommo, Sapi, CF, Stig, doc, Omanes, Faust, The Stranger)
Redleg: 3 (Ichigo, RoadKill, BlackAxe)
Sapi: 3 (BK, Pannonian, Omanes)
Pannonian: 1 (Xehh II)
No lynch: 1 (GH)
Xehh II: 1 (Xdeathfire)
Ichigo: 1 (Redleg)


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Now the challenges.

Redleg challenges Pevergreen
Ichi challenges TS
Stig challenges Pannonian
Sapi challenges Roadkill
Sigurd Fafnesbane challenges Ignoramus
Roadkill challenges Sapi
Orb challenges Redleg
Faust challenges Redleg

One person can only fight one dual a round.

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Orb vs Redleg

Both are using dragon style. Redleg charges Orb to start the fight but Orb meets his charge with a flying head kick knocking Redleg unconscious. The fight lasted exactly 3 seconds.

******

RoadKill vs Sapi

Again, both are using dragon style. This time it is Sapi who charges Roadkill and catches him unprepared with a knee to the face. The fight lasts exactly 3 seconds.

*****

Ichigo vs The Stranger

Ichigo is using dragon style while TS is using Praying Mantis. The advantage is to The Stranger, but from the fight it is evident he doesn't need it. In 3 seconds he has disable Ichigo with a flurry of punches.

******


Killed (4):
Dutch_guy
ChuggtheSquirrel
Andres
discovery1



Lynched (2):
Tran
BlackAxe


Living (33):

Ichigo
Warmaster Horus
pevergreen
Faust|
Xdeathfire
Kommodus
Greaterkhaan
ByzantineKnight
Crazed Rabbit
CountArach
Omanes
Stig
Warluster
Sigurd
Caius
Sapi
Ignoramus
RoadKill
Redleg
Killfrenzy
Ultrawar
Orb
doc_bean
GH
TwilightBlade
Pannonian
The_Stranger
Xehh
HughTower
Kagemusha
Beefy187


It is now night. Pm's please.

Well, finger of suspicion at Xehh II, who popped in for a quick vote at the then vote leader and with very little explanation, then left.

The Stranger is, unsurprisingly, acting very strange. Seems like he might have a high kung fu score and is looking to beat someone up.

EDIT: He's better than Ichigo at least.

CR

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Why Redleg? He was extremely suspicious in his continued attacks on Ichigo last round. If I didn't recognise that from CDTC, I would have pushed for his lynching.

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I just picked two people who are usually fairly trusted in those games. Byzantine Knight, Omanes and I all voted for Sapi at some point last round, so it would be unfair for him to have to entrust us with his antidote.

Sapi, can you PM Sasaki with the handover so we can get this confirmed before the night is over and the kills are up, then post here saying whom you gave it to? The night phase isn't likely to last more than 24 hours (unlike the day phase, which depends on the vote tallies), so it would be best to get this done ASAP.

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Seriously TS, your bragging is starting to annoy me. Sasaki, can I do a Kung Fu night kill on TS,

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No.

Rule clarification: items and money may change hands once every night phase and once every day phase.

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Rule clarification: items and money may change hands once every night phase and once every day phase.

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Bugger. You'd better keep it for your own use then, at least until the night is over.

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Damn. Does anyone feel like giving me 80 gold? Please?
You'd be doing the town a service. Who's the shopwatcher? Do you like champagne? Would you neglect to mention that I left the shop with a crossbow if I gave you ten gold to get some?

Thanks Sasaki.

Oh, and, my plausible suspicions, in case I get offed:

TS: casting the last vote, with no reason given
Redleg: insanely aggressive attacks on Ichigo
Omanes: Claims noone bought anything on night one. I've asked blackaxe to leave me his item so I can tell everyone if he does.
Pannonian: Role claim has not quite convinced me. It might still do so.
Xehh II: Odd voting

TS is, imo, just being TS. He's not a lot of help as a townie, which sort of shows in a complex game like this. I don't understand the bandwagon against Blackaxe, and will hold *everyone* who voted for him under suspicion.

Yah screwed me over Sasaki. YOU SCREWED ME OVER!!!!