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As in the PM I sent Warluster, I think its a bad idea to have Hans wait for Matthias before embarking. By the time Matthias reaches Sofia, it will be 1258, and 1260 by the time they can actually move further. Hans can reach Outremer by 1260 on his own.
Sorry all. Had buisness, etc.
PM coming your way econ.
OK, thanks for the PM, Warluster.
Warluster is too busy with studies and work to finish his reign as Chancellor. I've opened an Emergency Session of the Diet to elect his replacement. I think we've had rather too much talk relative to in-game action since Factionheir's term ended, so I propose we elect a replacement Chancellor in the same way as we agreed for impeached Chancellors ie one who will finish the Chancellor's term and follow through existing Edicts.
We will have a full Diet session and new Chancellor election in 1260, although there is no reason why the replacement one we elect now could not stand again.
I was afraid of that, but hopefully we can now pick up the pace a little and get things moving! :2thumbsup:
Is Ulrich Hummel dead yet?
I hope we get a Chancellor who can get the game going again... I want to fight battles! Battles within my skill level, at least.
Nope, looking at 1148-3, the latest save available, he's alone on the eastern border of Aleppo. Looks like he's on his way to a death ride though against some Egyptians.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
[brains]Zombie![/brains]
Edit: A summary of the legislation, but I hope we won't need it.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...2&postcount=10
Ugh, I wonder how many chancellors we'll end up having for this term!
You guys really shoulda voted for Fredericus or myself during the last full session :grin:
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Originally Posted by FactionHeir
The problem with that is your too good FH:balloon2:
:inquisitive: And you really shoulda voted for yourself at the last full session. (Then Fredericus could have won...). :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
u shouldnt have voted for hummel FH lol.
Comrade Franconia is always right!
I'm looking forward to some entertaining reports from you Econ...if you get in of course.
:beam:
I've talked to FLYdude and he is interested in running for Chancellor, so I have withdrawn Elberhard's candidacy. Fredericus von Hamburg is a little old at 57 and so to avoid the risk of having another interrupted Chancellorship, Elberhard is running as Co-Chancellor on his ticket. This means if Fredericus dies before 1260, Elberhard will finish off his term.
Good idea.
Of course Arnold's gone a little batty with the idea though :laugh4:
After the debates going on, it seemed that backroomers had decided on Fredericus or Hümmel. Considering Swabian backroom talk, I felt compelled to vote for Hümmel, even though I was very much considering to break ranks and vote Fredericus.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
That should really be the last update before the next M2TW patch comes out:
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/KOTRfix126.zip
This time in .zip format due to popular request.
Please make sure you upgrade and use it (at the very least) while you play in the PBM. Not looking at certain people here :wink2:
I'll be temporarily away when the Emergency Diet deadline expires (2pm UK time today). It looks like FLYdude will be elected Chancellor unopposed. I'll organise a poll a little later if that is not the case.
where has FLYdude been? is he gonna be able to be chancellor?
no, were going to call a fourth emergency diet session in a couple days...Quote:
where has FLYdude been? is he gonna be able to be chancellor?
j/k
:beam:
we should always have a vice chancellor in case of troubles - if someone takes too long
Mabey just have it where the GM runs it in event of resignation. If there is to be an official vice-chancellor position, then we should RP it and get it codified in the rules. Just my thoughts.
Yeah, we'll see what we can do about it IC. So far we have managed without it.
Oh, I'm around. This is the time I get home. In anticipation of getting elected, I've already worked into 1250 from the 1248-3 save. The plan is to have all the turn's stuff done, and all the battles queued up within a few hours, so you guys can have fun while I write Chancellor's reports, then sleep, then work. I am planning on having econ (in his role as co-Chancellor) end the turns as early as possible so that defensive battles don't bog down the process. The aim is 1 turn per day. If you don't get to your offensive battle within 24 hours, it may be skipped if it's of low priority (though the autoresolve limit is still 48 hours, of course).
Battle Queue for 1250
The following battles may be fought in the year 1250. Each battle in the list contains a directive for the Chancellor (in a spoiler). Some players may be allowed to make multiple actions while they hold the save. Any battle not fought within 24 hours may be delayed by a turn. Players may decline to fight battles, but please note such decisions publicly. Note that I'm not planning to take possession of the save back until the next turn.
Initial Save
Battles are listed randomly below. First come, first serve. Note that you have the save while fighting the battle, upload the new one afterwards... you know the drill.
Lothar Steffen.
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Gunther von Kastilien (and Peter and Ansehelm).
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Arnold.
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Karl Zirn.
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Jobst.
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Matthias Steffen
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Non-battle directives:
Conrad Salier
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End-of-turn Directive (OOC, for the co-Chancellor)
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I have the save and will fight my battle and move.
The Battle is fought and won, and I moved Matthias and his men onto Admiral Nick's fleet.
Here's the link:
2nd Edit: See below for latest save.
I will post a battle report and casualties later on tonight.
Good to get out in the field again, though I do miss having 10 command.
Next! :laugh4:
Edit: I boarded the fleet but forgot to move it. I'll take care of that now. Done, see below
I'll be fighting my battle sometime tomorrow. Just a quick heads-up.
:balloon2:
The latest save, with new and improved fleet movement!
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1250-2.zip
Go on from this one, I'm going to edit my last past.
I'll have to learn to read instructions more carefully.
Well from Flydude's PM I will pick up this save and go for Karl's first battle. Just got home and have some time to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
Casualties from my fight.
Good luck Northnovas. :2thumbsup:
Oh, yes, I forgot. Please post the results screenshot, or tell me what the numbers were.
I'm cool with the Edessa set-up.
Done,
Looked like it would be big but ended quickly. Here is the save,
http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/M2...ays/1250-3.zip
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Sorry in the excitment I forgot the statistics part. First contact they retreated second was battle and was able to reach the city and under seige. I would like to beseige it for a few turns. Picked up nice traits in the two contacts. Neither of the Body Guard units got into the match so nothing for Wolfgang yet.
AussieGiant, could you let me know, when you want to assault Budapest so I can work it out. If it were up to me, I'd starve those bastards to death, although that might presumably take forever. I just know, that taking Budapest the first time, when it was well-defended was a nightmare and this time the walls have gotten even bigger. I just hate attacking cities. It always gets crowded and messed up. At least for me. :shame:
I will fight my battle after work, about 12 hours from now.
I would prefer to have the Poles attack us ... that's what I prepared Thorn for in the last 2 fights. They can be massacred in the streets of Thorn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
Sides how on earth does Gunther lead this attack Ansehelm and Peter both have double his command afaik.
Sorry for being really inactive right now, but summer is a really busy time for me. I will probably be able to fight all of the battles but wont participate much other than that. I'll probably have more time by mid August and will be ack to my normal participation amount by school time in September I hope. This being said, if I neglect to post or do anything for an extended period of time assume that Elberhard or econ21 will be my steward for now.
lol ull have MORE time in school? wow
Thats my situation as well. For me, summer is even busier because I have to work fulltime on top of my school stuff. I might not have actual classes to go to, but when your a grad student, the summer is the time to work on all of the extra stuff you have due outside of your normal class load. Plus my University thought it would be smart to put us all on 10 hour shifts 4 days a week so I'm exhausted at night. In case there is confusion, I work for the school I go to. Now I have no idea if these are Deathfire's reasons but I can certainly sympathise with the sentiment.Quote:
Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921
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Originally Posted by Ituralde
Maate Ituralde :laugh4: their rebels against the House.
Leopold would have their guts for garters!!
I don't want to wait them out entirely. Build as much siege equipment as possible, once that is done then storm the bloody thing :2thumbsup:
Sigismund has to get his spurs on this one so stick him in it :whip:
I guess that means we will wait a few turns to build the siege gear.
You can deal with FLYdude directly on the timing. I PM'd you both.
Cheers
AG
This is a difficult one. It seems that we might have to sort out the issue of who is in command in armies with multiple generals through OOC Charter Amendments in the next Diet. For now, I think we should let the Duke pull rank - presumably the force in Thorn is the FHA and the Duke leads the FHA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
[1]I am considering proposing the following:
OOC Charter Amendment:
(a) Where there are multiple player controlled generals in a stack, then the player who plays out the battle is determined by who the computer designates is in command.
(b) An exception is that Household Armies (and the Army of Outremer) are always commanded by the designated Commander of said army.
(c) The commanding general may allow another player to fight a battle by mutual consent for OOC reasons.
I think that formalises current practice.
Yup that's good.
BTW I say again please don't fight the battle. The Poles can be utterly destroyed in a siege, sides a siege gives us an extra turn compared to the Russians.
We might win this sally out, but what will be left? (I can make this an IC discussion, but I've said many times (in IC) that I want to let the Poles siege. In the Franconian Duchy Thread, in the Diet and in PMs to the Kaiser).
Okay, I shall let them attack and then destroy them in the streets. Seems fine with me, as does the Charter Amendment Econ proposed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
I'll await the eventual assault.
That said, shouldn't Ansehelm be supervising his starting crusade in Magdenburg? Didn't quite realise we had three avatars bunched in Thorn.
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By the way well done Northnovas.
Good to see you got your first battle out of the way eventually.
Happy sieging :balloon2:
Siege defense is pure cheese :grin:
Will we be having a vote on that CA or will it just quickly and silently be added to the rules? I doubt anyone opposes it.
Unless someone shouts out, I may just add it. I started with a much more complex CA and then realised that some simple codifying of what we are already doing was adequate.Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
simple is best Econ.
I think it works well.
I just have to make sure Sigismund von Mahren get his spurs and an army soon.
I'm sure Iturlade is going to make the storming of Budapest a blood bath.
sure that CA works well enough
we need to seriously beef up thorn however. from somewhere, anywhere.
After looking at the save, I will wait with the attack on Budapest until next turn. I want to have at least 3 rams and 4 towers, before I attack the city. Could the next guy that picks up the save just add enough siege equipment to the build list? Didn't want to go to the hazzle of uploading a new save just for that little change.
Thanks in advance!
Ituralde
Love you work Ituralde!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ituralde
Love your work!! :2thumbsup:
I can't move Ansehelm out.Quote:
That said, shouldn't Ansehelm be supervising his starting crusade in Magdenburg? Didn't quite realise we had three avatars bunched in Thorn.
That's why in the last 2 fights I planned to destroy the Poles in the streets, I asked Warluster for 3 possible reinforcement armies. Once they arrive (by the time the Russians siege) we should be able to completely destroy the enemy and move out of Thorn with some avatars.
Just FYI all, I will be unavaiable from thursday 5pm NA (toronto) time till the following Monday Morning, I'm going to WEMF
GEES, I'm excited.
I'll wait for TinCow to do his battle before advancing the turn. Jobst, Arnold, von Kastilien battles to be skipped. Siege equipment to be added to Budapest.
Fighting now.
Hi All,
I just got back to Switzerland and had a look at the save for the first time in over a month...interesting...veerry interesting.
Seems to be a lot going on right now hey :)
If you want to look at a particularly interesting save, load up the first one from 1142 or 1144. You'll see about half the Empire on fire and the short lived Duchy of Scotland.
Why you sold it for 2,800 florins I will never know, but at least it did consume 30,000 excess florins.
What we really need is all but one of our avatars to have no loyalty and revolt(in game of course, that is out of or control).
In the absence of other information, I assumed that 1250-4 was the final save of that year and so ended the turn after some tidying up. Looking at the finances of other factions, most are rolling in money so I let them be. France, Byzantium, Turkey, Egypt and Portugal were bankrupt or nearly so, so I gave them 50k or thereabouts.
In terms of end of turn events:
(1) Fritz von Kastilien was attacked by Russkies, so I retreated. Then he was attacked by Poles and won! (the autoresolve so under-values Polish nobles). He's an NPC, but I think he should be knighted for that victory.
(2) The Egyptian Sultan is besieging Damascus. The Egyptians tried to besiege Jerusalem but the Papacy chased them away.
(3) The Mongols are on the doors of Edessa. The Danes are marching on Hamburg. A French army is loitering near our borders north of Paris.
(4) We built the world's first huge Cathedral, raising our Papal relations to perfect. We can crusade, but only French and Spanish cities are possible targets.
(5) I accepted a master swordsmith for Ajacco (although maybe we want to convert that settlement to a city?).
(6) I built a small church on Ajacco - Catholicism is really low there, thanks to the witch. I upgaded Prague's walls - two more cities needed upgrades, but they are bigger ones at 9600 each. I spent all our remaining money recruiting free upkeep militia in cities; there are one or two left below strength.
(7) First time I ended the turn (I had to redo it as I forgot to give the AI cash), we were offered a suitor for Hedewig von Saxony. I turned him down as we have enough Franconians. But now I think about it, it might be best to accept such future offers - I think we may have to satisfy the Franconians before the computer moves on to the Austrians or whoever.
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1252-1.zip
If FLYdude has played on past 1250-4, he can ignore the above.
What about Thorn? Still under siege and are the reinforcements still too far away?
Don't have MTW2 here, so
The only other crusade targets that we could possibly get are Moorish towns on Iberia, Caesarea and Iconium. And any excommed catholics or muslim-owned initial catholic settlement.
Whats actually our stance on crusading against excommed catholics?
FH, there are no longer any moorish towns on Iberia, the spanish has taken over all of them. Call one on Iconium? You guys are already beseiging it right?
Btw, is Sofia given over to the ERE yet?
Reviewing the map of the library, looks like the muslim factions are doing quite badly, the Turks are going to be down to 3 cities when Iconium is taken, I am assuming the Mongols have sack Mosul already, and the Moors only have 2 cities. Eqypt has the most cities at 5. Just saying the sorry state of the muslims factions, not that there is any way of helping them IC.
Sofia belongs to the ERE now.
As for Crusades, let's keep our options open. If the Mongols take one of our cities in Outremer for instance, we could call one to reclaim it.
u should have married hedgewis, shes dietrichs only living relative
McIwoo, please accept my sincere apologies for getting you killed. The battle really was as close to defeat as I wrote it up and I had to commit every last man to prevent a chain rout. I actually expected Lothar to die at any moment, since I think he has negtive health traits and he had been in combat longer by that point. It was pretty desperate, plus I was only a hair away from the timer starting the defeat countdown clock.
Again, please accept my apologies.
We never got the chance - that was only in an aborted save.Quote:
Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921
o gotcha
idthink McIwoo is even around anymore...
Meanwhile, Ulrich Hummel still lives. :laugh4:
Damn TC, that was a hell of a write up.
I'm really concerned about Budapest now.
While you guys are talking about marriage, isn't it funny that Friederich Scherer still hasn't gotten married yet. You'd think a duke would want a kid as his successor or something...
I agree - I've just finished reading it. Well done. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
McIwoo: you have free choice of any spare avatars. There is only Jens Hummel and some Franconians, though.
I am sure he still lives in our hearts. But in the savegame, he died in battle in 1248.Quote:
Originally Posted by GH
Well, with the rate that avatars are dropping lately, we should be entering a new round of marriages/births.
That's exactly why I want to get married Xdeathfire.
I've ask Warluster about his daughter but he wont commit :inquisitive:
The Hungarian's have come to the Budapest love fest again. I hope those Zweihanders and Gothic Knights are coming to reinforce me? Is that correct?
Ragusa seems to have fallen off the radar a little. I would like it to be upgraded and be producing troops consistently for Austria.
haha soon stiggy and i are gonna be the uppaclassmen in franconia! woot w00t.
i wanna marry lyse von salza tho! lol battle royale!
Great write up TC! I'm kind of getting a MacBeth vibe.
There's a small chance :wink: I might post something IC, but that'll have to wait for sleep.
Edit: Just remember AG and gibson, that baaaaddd things can happen once you marry into royalty.
does eh? what about good things? please let there be good things!
Pshaw, everything ended up going okay for Otto when it came down to it.
and dietrich
maybe just me and AG should fight it out via multiplayer, unless someone else is interested..
AG: You are getting the bulk of the Sofia garrison and some of Hans' veterans too. They are about 2 turns away from you. You already have some other veteran units from Hans' army (DFK and Sergeants) from during Ignoramus' chancellorship.
I'm stuck with a few green units through Byz territory. Fun! :inquisitive: Someone must hate me :grin: