Capo de Tutti Capi - II [Concluded]

The time to lynch Sigurd is when Drisos' post mortem is done. If he were a detective, he wouldn't have been allowed to reveal after death. However, if he were not a detective, then he can reveal the role however much he likes when he likes, up to and including the red text stating that a town win will result in a free holiday in Mallorca.

In addition to the points already made, if Glenn and jimbob's PMs are entirely in red, how are they to find the last part of the troika? How is one supposed to establish contact if the means of contact is disallowed? I find the claim hard to believe.

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Originally Posted by Andres

Wasn't it in CDTC I that the Don's knew each other's identity?

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No. The Don's knew Sasaki, and he knew them. I had no idea who the other Don's are.

I think NN needs to speak more. GH and Sasaki cant be let off the hook (im sure Zorg will say I cant be either).

TS seems to be streamlining. I cant imagine him doing this well if he was mafia.

I think Jimbob for lynch.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

JimBob's pm protestations look made up to me.

-Seamus wouldn't add a 3 person special role with a critical ability. Also, vigilantes don't save lives.
-There's no reason for glenn not to have claimed it earlier. Given the huge amount of effort he's gone into, reposting all the information that he summarized, I find it unbelievable that there isn't even a hint of a special role.
-ergo JimBob is most likely Glenn's scumbuddy trying to save his don.

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True.

The "our entire role pm was in red" claim seems like a very poor attempt at a fake reveal. They are lying.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki

Scummy post. There's no reason to be so sure Sigurd is guilty. Drisos's accusation is not very significant at all. Reason to watch sigurd at most.

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Now, tell me, how is that scummy? Drisos revealed after dead. He broke the rules, but Sigurd quoted it, the information is there for all to see. Why would Drisos say that he knows for sure that Sigurd is a Don? What reason would we have not to believe him? Why not tieing Glenn and Sigurd and ask Kommodus to lynch them both? What's wrong with lynching a) somebody who is very likely to be a Don b) a very supsicous player? It saves us time, since we wouldn't have to focus on Sigurd anymore in the next round.

Besides, I've seen my name on your "suspect list" in your sig for a while, yet you offered not a single explanation for this.

Care to elaborate?

Meh ill just have to say

Vote: Pevergreen

For trying to use his cunning plan with out even telling me (Kill me), and failing miserably. Thanks for letting me run out of luck too.. Im average townie btw. Mafia having ability to avoid death means invincible. Pro town already got a decent ability. Which means im just a townie with some special ability to balance stuff out.

And to Glenn: Havnt pmed or recieved pm from Pannonian. But ive been talking with Pevergreen

If I die tonight... Well cant do much now can I? You know who to blame.. :smash:

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

No. The Don's knew Sasaki, and he knew them. I had no idea who the other Don's are.

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I see. Thnx for the clarification.

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

I think NN needs to speak more. GH and Sasaki cant be let off the hook (im sure Zorg will say I cant be either).

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Not only Zorg would say that... Why did you add the bolded part in your post?

If Drisos was guilty, it makes sense he'd try and accuse someone. If he was the detective, he had no results and his accusation of sigurd has no more weight than me accusing you. You say yourself that you suggested sigurd be protected--if I'm not mistaken Drisos thought Sigurd was the don because he was being protected. If you accuse Sigurd of being the Don by Drisos's logic, you accuse yourself of being on of Sigurd's henchmen. There are many more suspicious people than Sigurd, so your suggestion of adding him to the lynch (when it's obvious he won't be) is scummy.

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Originally Posted by Andres

I see. Thnx for the clarification.



Not only Zorg would say that... Why did you add the bolded part in your post?

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Bold?

Ummm WTF r u doin?

I see no bold.

Beefy, feel free to blame me for your near death. But keep in mind i had organized a group to protect you, which Sasaki turned away from you.

I also posted here that I lead that group, when you had quite a few votes on you early.

I want to state my last words.

"I want everyone to know that I crusaded in the name of the axe, blade and crown of the Township authority.
I was a detective with a sword.
A sword so heavy it would require three men to lift.

... Let's do the time warp again!"

[QUOTE=pevergreen]
Beefy, feel free to blame me for your near death. But keep in mind i had organized a group to protect you, which Sasaki turned away from you.
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No its alright. I dont hold grudges or I dont think your guilty :sweatdrop:

But if you told me your gonna target me then I couldve told you about my ability and that docter plan will fail if they targeted me. So no hard feelings mate :2thumbsup:

There is no evidence but I dont think Glenn is guilty

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Originally Posted by Beefy187

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

Beefy, feel free to blame me for your near death. But keep in mind i had organized a group to protect you, which Sasaki turned away from you.

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No its alright. I dont hold grudges or I dont think your guilty :sweatdrop:

But if you told me your gonna target me then I couldve told you about my ability and that docter plan will fail if they targeted me. So no hard feelings mate :2thumbsup:

There is no evidence but I dont think Glenn is guilty

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No you couldnt, as it would have been in red?
EDIT: Fixed up Beefy's quote tags. They screwed my quote up.
I think too much red revealing and after death is going on.

Sticking to the rules does enhance the fun.

Oh, Pannonian, you posted my last letter to you!

Everyone, everyone, read them both, and notice how he is answering questions in his, 'reply', post, I didn't ask in the post he gave.

That is because he posted here a PM answering a far earlier post, when Pevergreen started questioning me out of the blue.

I think I'm going to have my coffin made of gyprock, so everyone can see how cheaply I was treated. Ha!

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

Bold?

Ummm WTF r u doin?

I see no bold.

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I bolded a part of your post in my quote. Fixed the bold tags in my quote of your post :bow:

drisos told me... the only reason he accused me and sigurd was because if he was going down... someone else had to go with him...

post 33!!! im coming glenn!!!

oh and vote abstain... which equals voting for glenn... but im not that sadistic.

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Originally Posted by Drisos' post as quoted by Sigurd

I'm sorry to lose my life so soon. Now listen carefully.

I was detective. But got no results. (because I was murdered right away)
So, 100% pro-town.

Thing I do know, is, Sigurd Fafnesbane is one of the Dons. Now, don't lynch him yet - he has 4 rival families, so he'll be murdered anyway.
On his team is The_Stranger.
But he loses as well, when his Don is murdered, right?

Further people that have been really suspective in PM's:

Andres
Glenn

Both should be lynched if they survive for too long. I wouldn't count on it, though.

Furthermore, I can only advise, keep the smart people alive for now, this game is too complicated. Lynch them later on if they survive.

Sorry again. My killing was luck of the draw, seems. I've been careful about my role. Bad luck... well, next game better...
Good luck, town, I might keep an eye open and cheer for all innocent people! ~:)

:bow:

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Drisis clearly says: "Thing I do know, is, Sigurd Fafnesbane is one of the Dons."

He doesn't say that he suspects Sigurd of being a Don because he got protected. Drisos is saying that he knows it.

My guess is that Drisos' role pm mentioned that Sigurd is a Don.

Gee Stranger, I wrote two pages and you just dribble and spit and type alot of dots?

Good god man, even I'm better at being defensive than you!
Don't forget my last words! I want them recited!

[QUOTE=Beefy187]Vote: Pevergreen
For trying to use his cunning plan with out even telling me (Kill me), and failing miserably. QUOTE]

Thats a very good point. I shall Unvote:Glenn and Vote:Pevergreen thought it will not make much difference.

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My guess is that Drisos' role pm mentioned that Sigurd is a Don.

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No way.

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

post 33!!! im coming glenn!!!

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As long as your posts are not spam :brood:

Do we understand each other?

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

No way.

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How can you be so sure about that?

Wasn't there a certain Sasaki Kojiro who had a special role (Wolf? Some sort of rogue detective) in CDTC I and whose role pm mentioned the identity of the Mafia Dons?

:inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Andres

I bolded a part of your post in my quote. Fixed the bold tags in my quote of your post :bow:

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I finally understand.

I dont know.

Zorg, Killf3nzy, Sarathos, Beefy187, Twilightblade and myself are all in a group of friends. So we kind of make reference to each other.

For example, I am going to slap Sarathos tomorrow for voting for me.

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Oh, Pannonian, you posted my last letter to you!

Everyone, everyone, read them both, and notice how he is answering questions in his, 'reply', post, I didn't ask in the post he gave.

That is because he posted here a PM answering a far earlier post, when Pevergreen started questioning me out of the blue.

I think I'm going to have my coffin made of gyprock, so everyone can see how cheaply I was treated. Ha!

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You do know that you can grab the PMs from your sentbox and inbox? Short of posting the entire lengthy PM exchange, you said that I didn't answer your point concerning my connections to pevergreen, so I posted my PM stating my connections to him. You then said there was a PM following this, so I posted that as well, adding at the end the explanation for why I didn't want w&f to kill pevergreen. Capo 1 players will remember that rationale, but I added my explanation, which you don't seem to have noticed, to clarify things further.

Is there anything else you'd like explained?

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Originally Posted by Andres

How can you be so sure about that?

Wasn't there a certain Sasaki Kojiro who had a special role (Wolf? Some sort of rogue detective) in CDTC I and whose role pm mentioned the identity of the Mafia Dons?

:inquisitive:

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In that case Sasaki knew the identity of all of the Dons, so if Drisos has a similar thing to that, then why single out Sigurd?

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Originally Posted by CountArach

In that case Sasaki knew the identity of all of the Dons, so if Drisos has a similar thing to that, then why single out Sigurd?

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Because this is CDTC II and not CDTC I ?

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Originally Posted by Andres

Because this is CDTC II and not CDTC I ?

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Fair enough, but what could Drisos possibly get out of letting the town know? Chances are if he knows who one of the Dons are then he is involved with some rather anti-town people. I don't know if we should trust him. Still I think you may be grasping at straws here, trying to find some hard evidence with which to pin Sigurd.

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Originally Posted by Glenn

Gee Stranger, I wrote two pages and you just dribble and spit and type alot of dots?

Good god man, even I'm better at being defensive than you!
Don't forget my last words! I want them recited!

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you call that a defense... gee... you are really aweful at defending... :P

you are a good guy... but... that was really all BS... :laugh4:

No, Pannonian, you have explained yourself perfectly.

Tell me, what do you think of gyprock?
I was thinking it might be too cheap, and fragile underground.
Unless you are all going to put me on display?

As long as a building is erected where I shall have adequate shelter, and you all pay for the coffin, I consent.

Don't forget my last words! For the sake of the townies don't!

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Stranger, do you have a type impediment?
In all your PMs you spoke like a commentator on a movie promotion, but I thought that was you playing the bad guy - however you really are making alot of pauses there!
Don't draw so much attention to yourself, or you'll end up like me!

Then again, it isn't so bad having all this hullabaloo over my bandwagon.

Hop on, why don't you?

Don't forget, Vote: Glenn - Glenn No. 1
Glenn for Day 2 Lynch 1!!

Oh, and don't forget my last words!

Im so close to putting Glenn on ignore. Its just worse than spam.

Im going to have to start a "Players not allowed in my games" list.

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

No you couldnt, as it would have been in red?
EDIT: Fixed up Beefy's quote tags. They screwed my quote up.
I think too much red revealing and after death is going on.

Sticking to the rules does enhance the fun.

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True... ok..

Unvote: Pever Vote: Sarathos

Valid point? No that was a joke almost :laugh4: Now I vote for you. I have a reason to believe that Glenn or Pever is innocent although I have no evidence supporting this statement. How ever I can understand their scuminess. So I will vote for completely diffrent person. And just incase he misunderstands me this vote is a joke.

My reason of defending Glenn is because he tried to be epic by writing up a poem like thingy which I personally thought was welldone. Furthermore I think he is just a little confused townie being framed by others. And for being confirmed innocent I have a feeling that im going to get targeted. If so Ill say good luck to my mafia friends coz they really needs alot of luck to kill me :yes:

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Originally Posted by CountArach

Fair enough, but what could Drisos possibly get out of letting the town know? Chances are if he knows who one of the Dons are then he is involved with some rather anti-town people. I don't know if we should trust him. Still I think you may be grasping at straws here, trying to find some hard evidence with which to pin Sigurd.

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I'd like to keep all options open.

You call it grasping at straws, I call it a (non allowed) reveal after death from somebody who's most likely a detective :shrug:

Oh, and we still don't know a) who protected Glenn b) who attacked him.

Jimbob, in your pm to pevergreen you say that no Luca protected Glenn. Can you tell us then, who did protect Glenn last night? Was it you?

It could of been a Luca, but I wouldn't of been his Don, but then why would a Luca protect someone ELSE's Don?

Because I've got to be a Don haven't I?

Otherwise we'd all be lynching an innocent here, and golly wobbles that would just be some shame.

Unless everyone who voted for me is Mafia!

But that's about as likely as my role requiring 15 lynch votes before I can reveal and kill every one alive and dead.

Then again.. you never know. 00o0o0o0

Last words! Check them!

PROTIP: Glenn is claiming to be a rogue detective (Investigates and then can kill the investigated) but he claims that he needs 3 people to kill the person.

Glenn, just reveal your role.

Anything else you say will be ignored or will make you look even more scummy.

Do you know more about Jimbob? Was he the one who protected you?

No, I'm claiming my interest in psychotic old cult movies.

It's a jump to the left - and a step to the riiiiiight!

It thought I had revealed my role, Andres?

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

PROTIP: Glenn is claiming to be a rogue detective (Investigates and then can kill the investigated) but he claims that he needs 3 people to kill the person.

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Do you have the PM? Glenn, can you post your PM?

Of course I can't post my PM Caracticus - you silly man, can you post yours?

I thought I had revealed though?

Put your hands on your hips! Fold your knees in tiiiiiiiiiiight!

Alright that's it - I'm giving up reasoning. Let's just lynch him and get it over with.

CountArach, you aren't listening. I can't post my PM.

Don't worry, Andres and others, I will only post with full compositions from here in.

Yup.. Sorry Glenn.. I cant support you anymore..

But I used to do that on my early days.. "Sucked in!! Im a townie and you guys lynched me!! HAHAHA!!" :sweatdrop:

Unvote, Vote: Glenn

Good bye my friend

Since when I was ever your friend Beefy?
You haven't given me much support in any case, do me a favour and stop tainting my moment of attention - I've worked pretty damn hard for it.

Unvote: Sigurd
Vote: Glenn

I hope you die* of attention overdose.

*in the game

No, I'm going to die when my neck is broken as I swing from a large rope.

I thought that was well known thus far.

Very quiet in here.. It can't possibly be that I made myself look so guilty that nobody wants to rant and rave about how suspicious I am anymore?

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Originally Posted by Glenn

No, I'm going to die when my neck is broken as I swing from a large rope.

I thought that was well known thus far.

Very quiet in here.. It can't possibly be that I made myself look so guilty that nobody wants to rant and rave about how suspicious I am anymore?

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With the amount of votes on you, you're fate already has been decided.

You've had your moment of glory, I hope you enjoyed it ~;)

Now please, allow us to find the other 14 mafiosi.

Husar, tell me, I see you unvoted Sigurd. Are you no longer suspicious of him?

I haven't slepped this night, but I'm sober (to my own suprise, I've gon,e trough a few pm's and the last pages of this thread)

A few remarks:

Glenn did tell the truth about the protection groups.
The stranger tried to organize two protecting groups as far as I know.
One which was mainly formed with the dutch members of the Tyolt, protecting sigurd. TS suggested him and Louis, who was protected by dutch guy and some other guys. I didn't really thurst everyone, but I tought that protecting one couldn't hurt that much, and tought if we're with four, we would have needed two men not to actually protect. And protecting couldn't hurt town much in anyway.

I guess TS and Glenn look suspicious. But personally I don't think they are mafia or anything. I might be wrong, like with sasaki last time. (Who I trusted and sended my rogue detective role, which he later stole, while him being the wolf.)

Anyway I'm going to abstain voting. TS and Glenn look innocent to me. (They just don't get understood to well, I'm under the impression. Remember TS during the previous CTDT I). Only Pevergreen is somewhat suspicious to me. However I'm not going to vote for him as I'm only somewhat suspicious. And I probably missed out some parts of discussion so.

vote: abstain

No, I think he is jealous because he hasn't got as many people quoting his name as I do - that's a nasty reason to kill someone Husar!

I now call upon my role's special powers - the ability, (Hope I don't break the rules Seamus), to undo all votes against me and place them against a player of my choice!

**Bzzzzzzzzzzwwaaaaaaaooooooooopop!**

Ha ha ha, you're going down Pevergreen - your name rhymes with Pevert been!

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Originally Posted by Andres

Husar, tell me, I see you unvoted Sigurd. Are you no longer suspicious of him?

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I am still suspicious of him, same reasons as before.
It's just that Glenn seems to be more annoying judging by all the new posts this morning, most of which I skipped anyway to be blunt.
This could even be a reaction due to him being guilty, hoping for a nice game as mafia which might now be destroyed on day one -> shattered dreams of a teenager in puberty etc, they can be that way then.

edit: Glenn also grabs all the attention, causing most players to ignore other suspicious people which is always a bad idea. But maybe that's his plan, to keep us busy until his mafia buddies have won the game.

Just a quick note to say that I do exist, but that I'm buried under piles of work with barely enough enthusiasm for it to stay above the surface :grin2:

I'll sit down to the mammoth task of reading hundreds of posts once I've got this stuff out of the way, whenever that is ~;)

There's no need to read tons of spam, just vote Glenn, he'll die anyway. :dizzy2:

Dunno was it joke or not about Glenn's ability, but I will vote: abstain anyway. He looks like myself in christmas mafia except I think I did better than that though.. Not sure in his guilt, and too hard to find truth in others statements..

+ that's a LOT of posts for me.. :dizzy2:

Vote : Abstain

Not going to actively support the bandwagon. But then again, there's not a lot of untoward suspicion towards anyone else either....am gonna wait upon the report of Drisos and any true detective reports that come on offer for now.

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Originally Posted by Andres

Now, tell me, how is that scummy? Drisos revealed after dead. He broke the rules, but Sigurd quoted it, the information is there for all to see. Why would Drisos say that he knows for sure that Sigurd is a Don? What reason would we have not to believe him? Why not tieing Glenn and Sigurd and ask Kommodus to lynch them both? What's wrong with lynching a) somebody who is very likely to be a Don b) a very supsicous player? It saves us time, since we wouldn't have to focus on Sigurd anymore in the next round.

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You accuse me of quoting Drisos’ post, yet do it yourself… what should I make of that?

Glenn has been cluttering this thread with his self pity… and some have suggested the reason for this is to drown other relevant clues…
The one I am most interested in is the connection Glenn – JimBob. I think it was pever who posted a lengthy pm exchange between himself and JimBob.
How about JimBob confirms this publicly.

ARE we doing the town a bear service of lynching Glenn? Or could it be Glenn is trying to drown this connection to JimBob?
Answers would be appreciated as there is time enough to change the votes.

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

You accuse me of quoting Drisos’ post, yet do it yourself… what should I make of that?

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Don't twist my words. I just said that you quoted Drisos' rule breaking post. No more no less. That's not an accusation.

[QUOTE=Glennieboy]INo, Pannonian, you have explained yourself perfectly.

Tell me, what do you think of gyprock?
I was thinking it might be too cheap, and fragile underground.
Unless you are all going to put me on display?

As long as a building is erected where I shall have adequate shelter, and you all pay for the coffin, I consent.

Don't forget my last words! For the sake of the townies don't!

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Stranger, do you have a type impediment?
In all your PMs you spoke like a commentator on a movie promotion, but I thought that was you playing the bad guy - however you really are making alot of pauses there!
Don't draw so much attention to yourself, or you'll end up like me!

Then again, it isn't so bad having all this hullabaloo over my bandwagon.

Hop on, why don't you?

Don't forget, Vote: Glenn - Glenn No. 1
Glenn for Day 2 Lynch 1!!

Oh, and don't forget my last words!/QUOTE]

me and not drawing attention... whahahahhaha :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Moros

I haven't slepped this night, but I'm sober (to my own suprise, I've gon,e trough a few pm's and the last pages of this thread)

A few remarks:

Glenn did tell the truth about the protection groups.
The stranger tried to organize two protecting groups as far as I know.
One which was mainly formed with the dutch members of the Tyolt, protecting sigurd. TS suggested him and Louis, who was protected by dutch guy and some other guys. I didn't really thurst everyone, but I tought that protecting one couldn't hurt that much, and tought if we're with four, we would have needed two men not to actually protect. And protecting couldn't hurt town much in anyway.

I guess TS and Glenn look suspicious. But personally I don't think they are mafia or anything. I might be wrong, like with sasaki last time. (Who I trusted and sended my rogue detective role, which he later stole, while him being the wolf.)

Anyway I'm going to abstain voting. TS and Glenn look innocent to me. (They just don't get understood to well, I'm under the impression. Remember TS during the previous CTDT I). Only Pevergreen is somewhat suspicious to me. However I'm not going to vote for him as I'm only somewhat suspicious. And I probably missed out some parts of discussion so.

vote: abstain

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read your pms properly... IT WAS NOT ME WHO SUGGESTED SIGURD AND LOUIS...

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Originally Posted by Kommodus

Looks like it'd be a bit pointless for me to vote at this stage, so:

Vote: Abstain

The thread got away from me a bit; I'll review when I have more time, but for now I'll ask this question in case someone said it and I missed it: has anyone stepped forward to acknowledge protecting Glenn?

Anyway, Glenn: how would you prefer to die? Your options are:

1. Commit seppuku and die in an honorable (albeit painful) way.

2. Eat a scrumptious meal, and wash it down with a glass of wine laced with strychnine.

3. Strapped to a chair along with a block of TNT. Quickest method I could think of.

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The Director may not vote for lynches while serving as director. The Current director may participate in the selection of a new director.

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

Glenn 34
The Stranger 32
Sasaki Kojiro 27
Ichigo 26
Andres 21
pevergreen 20
Pannonian 19
Moros 17
Sigurd Fafnesbane 16
Drisos 15
GeneralHankerchief 14
CountArach 14
norwegian nerd 12
Seamus Fermanagh 10
Omanes Alexandrapolites 8
Kagemusha 8
scottishranger 7
Husar 7
KukriKhan 6
Sarathos 6
Zorg 6
Craterus 6
Louis VI the Fat 6
Chimpyang 5
Tiberius of the Drake 5
RoadKill 5
Big King Sanctaphrax 5
woad&fangs 5
TinCow 4
Dutch_guy 4
Twilightblade 4
Myrddraal 4
Rythmic 4
TruePraetorian 4
kamikhaan 4
Brave_Sir_Robin 4
Xdeathfire 3
Xehh II 3
Elite Ferret 3
Joe Monks 3
Charge 3
Hannibalbarc 3
LittleGrizzly 3
Proletariat 3
Kommodus 2
Draco Leman 2
Northnovas 2
Makanyane 2
shlin28 2
Lt. Pinard 2
Crazed Rabbit 2
Tran 2
ajaxfetish 2
Alexander the Pretty Good 2
Xiahou 2
Evil_Maniac From Mars 2
Leet Eriksson 1
johnhughthom 1
Hiji 1
Warmaster Horus 1
gibsonsg91921 1
Motep 1
Caeser The III 1
taka 1
Cowhead418 1
Warluster 1
FactionHeir 1
Beefy187 1
Lord Winter 1
Caius 1

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So, about 80 potential posters, about 540 posts made, averages 6.7 posts.

If you haven't made 7 posts yet: you're lagging! :laugh4:

(Full disclosure: This will be my 7th post).

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Originally Posted by KukriKhan

So, about 80 potential posters, about 540 posts made, averages 6.7 posts.

If you haven't made 7 posts yet: you're lagging! :laugh4:

(Full disclosure: This will be my 7th post).

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How about giving us your thoughts about what happened so far in this game in your 8th post?

Do you have any suspects? Some posts that drew your attention? An interesting pm exchange to share? Surely, you must have something more to say than "this thread has almost 540 posts"...

Just a few reminders from the host.

1. Keeping a running tally helps. I am doing my own, but the double-check is both useful and appreciated.

2. The voting deadline is 2300 EST tonight, 7 Feb 8, which is equivalent to 0400 GMT. There is a goodly time to vote in this block as we have a lot of players in many time zones and I wanted to give folks time to read, think, post, and vote. More than 12 hours remain. :yes:

All of you "Oxbridge" types will simply have to set the alarm for 3 ack emma, hop online, and zing your votes in at the last second....:cheesy:

Capo will return to a 24 hour cycle fairly soon, but experience suggests that it should not do so yet.

3. ALL players have at least one para of red info on their sheets. Some have more. :deal:

4. I liked the suggestion about posting the "post number" for the info summaries at the top of the piece so that someone can read the summary thread and jump straight to where they wish. :yes: Good idea and so mote it be hereafter. :yes:

5. Reminder to those abstaining. A vote to "abstain" translates as: "go ahead and lynch someone, but I do not wish to choose who gets the chop." If your goal is actually to prevent a lynch, you must vote for "no lynch."



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Originally Posted by Andres

How about giving us your thoughts about what happened so far in this game in your 8th post?

Do you have any suspects? Some posts that drew your attention? An interesting pm exchange to share? Surely, you must have something more to say than "this thread has almost 540 posts"...

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I did that in my Post #411, analyzing what I thought had happened so far, based mostly on the Seamus' write-ups. I voted for Glenn, suspecting he is a Don, protected by his Luca, and acknowledging pevergreen's 'sort-of' reveal of being a wiseguy. (=suspect #2).

My PM box has been lonely for the past 24 hours. If you subtract Glenn's posts since my #411, there's not a whole lot more going on than idle speculation, IMO.

Ok, I've been reading through this thread now, and I'm currently on page 14. However, I just saw the number of pages increase, and I don't know if I have time to read the whole thread now (I've been reading for hours!), so I'll give my thoughts as they are atm.

Drisos is killed on night 1, so even if he was the detective, how could he possibly know for sure that Fafnesband and Stranger were guilty? He clearly had a special role, perhaps it was detective, but something doesn't add up.

Glenn has made a lot of claims. His protection does point strongly to a Luca protection. It could be a doctor trying to get promoted though. However, Glenn's attitude suggests that it's not, he's been very defensive, and I think he's a good lynch choice.

I think I believe Pevergreen when he says he's a wiseguy. His attempted doctor creation scheme is backed up by the events. However I think I remember him saying that his protection scheme failed. Nobody was promoted. Therefore something else saved Beefy that night.

However, if pevergreen is a wiseguy, he certainly isn't trying to become a townie. He joined the killing group, which sets him down the road to either joining the mafia, or creating his own family. Perhaps he isn't a priority, but I think he's a good lynch choice, his intentions don't seem to be pro town.

However, apart from Glenn I am most suspicious of The Stranger. He has given no explanation for forming these protection groups, and as soon as he was accused he posted a lot, and all of them defensive posts. I've never seen The Stranger be so consistent in his posting as when he was accused.

Also, as CA pointed out, The Stranger joined two protection groups, but joined neither, what was he doing last night?


So, since Glenn already has loads of votes, Vote:The_Stranger

Sorry I don't have the up-to-date tally, I'm lagging back on page 14. Catch up with you later...

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Originally Posted by Andres

Don't twist my words. I just said that you quoted Drisos' rule breaking post. No more no less. That's not an accusation.

Drisos revealed after dead. He broke the rules, but Sigurd quoted it, the information is there for all to see

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I took the bolded part as a disproval of my actions... I must have have been wrong?

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

I took the bolded part as a disproval of my actions... I must have have been wrong?

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Yes, you were wrong. I meant in as in a constation: Sigurd quoted Drisos' post. It wasn't intended to sound as an accusation.

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Originally Posted by KukriKhan

My PM box has been lonely for the past 24 hours. If you subtract Glenn's posts since my #411, there's not a whole lot more going on than idle speculation, IMO.

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And that's why I say you can skip a whole lot of posts. ~D

PM also has been pretty lonely of late....the only CDTC posts i've had are recruitment PM's from various sources. Wonder what other stuff is going on in the background?

Sorry TS! you are correct, you indeed did not choose both.
I guess the amount of pm's confused me. (Looking back I can't remember that we posted so many.)

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Originally Posted by Myrddraal

Ok, I've been reading through this thread now, and I'm currently on page 14. However, I just saw the number of pages increase, and I don't know if I have time to read the whole thread now (I've been reading for hours!), so I'll give my thoughts as they are atm.

Drisos is killed on night 1, so even if he was the detective, how could he possibly know for sure that Fafnesband and Stranger were guilty? He clearly had a special role, perhaps it was detective, but something doesn't add up.

Glenn has made a lot of claims. His protection does point strongly to a Luca protection. It could be a doctor trying to get promoted though. However, Glenn's attitude suggests that it's not, he's been very defensive, and I think he's a good lynch choice.

I think I believe Pevergreen when he says he's a wiseguy. His attempted doctor creation scheme is backed up by the events. However I think I remember him saying that his protection scheme failed. Nobody was promoted. Therefore something else saved Beefy that night.

However, if pevergreen is a wiseguy, he certainly isn't trying to become a townie. He joined the killing group, which sets him down the road to either joining the mafia, or creating his own family. Perhaps he isn't a priority, but I think he's a good lynch choice, his intentions don't seem to be pro town.

However, apart from Glenn I am most suspicious of The Stranger. He has given no explanation for forming these protection groups, and as soon as he was accused he posted a lot, and all of them defensive posts. I've never seen The Stranger be so consistent in his posting as when he was accused.

Also, as CA pointed out, The Stranger joined two protection groups, but joined neither, what was he doing last night?


So, since Glenn already has loads of votes, Vote:The_Stranger

Sorry I don't have the up-to-date tally, I'm lagging back on page 14. Catch up with you later...

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you are wrong... i joined the group with andres drisos and moros... i got a pm from seamus to prove it... it said protecting sigurd was inconclusive.

originally from andres... and the proof it was not my idea to protect sigurd...
it is dutch but there are enough dutch members to translate it... i wont... let them do it... so you will believe it is not lied.

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Kommo is director, heeft geen bescherming nodig...

Sigurd Fafnesbane is misschien ook een goeie optie. K zou het graag vandaag nog weten ~;p

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Yeah, I guess I was somehow confused...

You did chose Louis. right?

nope not either

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

3. ALL players have at least one para of red info on their sheets. Some have more. :deal:

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Ok, perhaps JimBob (in the pm quoted by pevergreen) was telling the truth. But I´d like to hear a statement from JimBob himself.

vote: abstain

because it doesn´t make a difference now anyway.

300 posts since I last came back online??? This is crazy...

Anyway, it seems to me that with all these Glenn bashing, that everyone has forgot something that someone said about someone on post 13...

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...6&postcount=13

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Indeed. Rumour has it, Fahad, that you have already been tentatively probing players with the intent of recruiting them.

What say you to this?

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Another potential mafia perhaps?

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Originally Posted by Glenn

I'd like to get in a ring with any one of you, along with their non-firearm weapon of choice, and mine - my beautiful Swiss Pattern Bayonet.

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That wasn't one of your choices. :stare:

I guess I'll have to choose for you. You're getting the strychnine. :skull:

Vote:Glenn

why would anyone protect a townie on night one?

(PS if there is anyone who would give me a call, protection for the town can never be a bad thing :clown:)

An "interesting" PM exchange with The Stranger.

PM title: Re: CDTC - alliantie
Presumably he'd been in a conversation with a Dutch-speaking player, leading him to contact me.

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

:inquisitive: snif... snif... MAFIA??? :inquisitive:

:no:

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

WTF?

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

... don't act like you don't know... you are DIRTY!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

Are you drunk? Or is this how you normally play?

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

both I guess... but that doesn't change the fact that I KNOW U are DIRTY!!!

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Bizarre.

lol hard to make any decisions on that except not to make any deals with TS in case he is drunk at the time.

I'm having pretty much the same exchange with him now.

Unvote: CountArach
Vote: The Stranger

He's fishing for role PMs.

:laugh4: no... im not fishing for role pms... but however... you people are making a big mistake...

So how do you explain sending the same message out to at least two people?

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Originally Posted by Andres

How can you be so sure about that?

Wasn't there a certain Sasaki Kojiro who had a special role (Wolf? Some sort of rogue detective) in CDTC I and whose role pm mentioned the identity of the Mafia Dons?

:inquisitive:

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The wolf know the three mafia dons, but he was mafia aligned. There's absolutely no reason to give any townie knowledge of who a mafioso is (unless it's some romeo-juliet thing) because they will just post who it is and get that person lynched.

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Originally Posted by shlin28

300 posts since I last came back online??? This is crazy...

Anyway, it seems to me that with all these Glenn bashing, that everyone has forgot something that someone said about someone on post 13...

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...6&postcount=13



Another potential mafia perhaps?

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Can whoever said this about fahad give their evidence?

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Unvote: CountArach
Vote: The Stranger

He's fishing for role PMs.

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Quote the pm's please.