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Hello
I have another question - Im playing COmpaing on 2.1 version and neet some tips - haw to fight against persian Cavalery Archers ? Each of Persian army has maybe 1000- 2000 of them - my phalangs cant fight against them - cos they shooting and retreating ( and i cant catch them )- most of my casualties are from this archers .... using macedonians archers is not any solution - they have small range and are unarmed - what tactics to use against persians ? ( trully they army have similar tactics in 2.1 like a Mongol army ) PErsian Arechers have limitet number of arrows ? Cos i never seen they stoped to shoot during battle..
New version will brings solutions of this problem ( cos if they get elephants - i will have much bigger problem )
Regards
kosc
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eeee, those heavy missile slingers in version 2.1 do wonders... just wondering if those were really supposed to be as deadly :) i mean: how much damage can a guy do with a stone? :)
on another note, 25 purchasing cost versus 125 upkeep cost. it seems, we want these guys to be dead at the end of the turn every time :) you can buy 5 new units for the cost of keeping one alive :)
i guess, the tactic with them is the following: use them until they run out of boulders (from their kill numbers, it seems that's what they are throwing) and then charge them at some enemy cavalry to save yourself 125 pesos ;)
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[HWK] Kosciuszko if your in a defence situation countering the Persian Archers is easy. Simply keep your main hand-to-hand troops back in thier defence position (hopefully you have a decent hill) and when they bring out the archers bring forward your peltasts/rock throwers whatever missle troops you have fire back at them, they will eventually run out of ammo or they will back off and play a cat+mouse game. Just keep bringing out your missle troops to fight them. Dont let them suck your missle troops into thier main force. If your mian force is large enough they will never challenge in you in open battle. Once they run out of ammo they will either retreat or try some half-arsed attempt to fight you that usually ends with you killing half thier army while the rest flee.
Attacking is a little more difficult. But it's still the same idea, you want to fight thier missle troops with your missle troops and dont let them bring thier main force down on your missle troops. If your attacking a fort/castle then you will need a big army.
Always keep your flanks protected by quick hand-to-hand or horse units. Even peltasts/rock throwers can guard your flanks if your careful with them.
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FYI I downloaded the installer 30 min ago and just installed everything fine. Quote Homer (Simpson): WOO-HOO http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../ceasaryes.gif I dig the way the campaign map looks like an old cloth map you might get with an Ultima title.
Also, how do you install the music pack?
Cheers,
Gnrl Greene
Guilford County
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i don't know if its any error with the raising price /up keep cost.
but look at it this wha. Slingers where peasents, soldiers fight as hoplites.
Forcing or what ever term is correct, some peaseants into service does not cost much, and there weapeons where rocks they could find in the earth....this is cheap..but eventually you need to feed them and such, if you wish to bring them with you on campaign or permanently ready for battle.
hope this gives some explanation...anyway it does not really matter anyhow.
as a good brave heart quote when the EVIL(i think he is a genius) king used when sending his Irish mercenarys into battle as the frontal shock troops:
the death cost nothing
PS: damn i love the kings view on war in Brave Heart...
also fireing arrows into the middle of the battle.
we got reserves....excellent tactic.
gotta love him.
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Yes.....Edward Longshanks...Hammer of the Scots. What a fantastically nice fella, I mean what a sweetheart he was. Loved by all was ole Eddie http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...c-rolleyes.gif (In case you can't tell, as a Scot he's not making the favourites list). Anyway, the mod is fantatic, and I'm really looking forward to the next release. Is it slated for roughly the end of June, or are is it still at the 'when its done phase'? Also, is it normal at the start of the game to have negative income? It seems to cost so much just to maintain the starting garrisons.
Oh and by the by, the quote from Braveheart was Send in the Irish, they cost nothing.
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Thx for help Thoros of Myr - i will try this way soon.
NOw im still playing my compaing and never have enaught money to have big army - and Persians looks have unlimited cash. Each batttle looks like that - one my army - about 500-600 and 3 their army ( cant even know haw many ) I will use ofcource this slingers ( before i was thinking that slingers are crap and better to use archers ) and maybe they will help me a little. Hawever Persian Horse Archers not only shooting - sometimes they charge on unarmed archers and slingers.
But i will try - Persians make me sick in this compaing and i will die or win with them.
Regards
kosc
PS : i have another question - HTW is good as mulitplayer game ? In my opinion this mod ( Hawever is really great ) is not so popular and hard to induce some regular MTW players to load HTW. But i hope so on this forum i will find some players which let me enjoy multiplayer HTW..
Regards
kosc
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General Greene,JBerto
I have uploaded and tested a HTW v2.1 self-installer that works perfectly so those install problems where caused by a corrupt download.See that your problems are solved now enjoy and look forward to HTW v3.1 http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/gc-clown.gif
CZoF http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...evalcheers.gif
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Thank you for looking into the problem. Can't wait for V3.1
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I am having trouble getting HTW working.
I have patched my install of VI to the latest patch off the totalwar.com website.
After install the game doesn't start. The loading screen comes up briefly and then nothing. Strangly enough I can still play the normal version of VI.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Hello HTW creaters,...I had v2.0 and played it alot (great fun) thought it was 'challenging' for me as a computer noob to set it up propery. I've now 2.01 (easy to install), so; when does the version with the elephants and chariots arrive?
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Hi 1dread1lahll,
version 3.1 is in Beta testing phase.
It will be out soon.
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Do the campaigns take place around, before, or after the life of Alexander the Great? I am not really up on my history so please forgive me.
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ok thx flip, another question.... i tried 2.0 in multi.. however there was a bug in the low cost slinglers (if u bought up-grades the cost was ADDED to your total instead subtracted) thus allowing for unlimited cash if you wanted....Fixed?
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hey all just like to say this mod kicks ass, gives new mean to the word epic, just a few things tho will the Macedonian pike phalanxes be in version 3 you know the ones that are like hoplites but with the longer spears and attack like pikeman where you can have 4-6 rows attacking at once. and another thing there a special unit am not sure which one it is but when you try and select it you ctd to the desktop and get an error saying no portrait available?
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Why do you taunt us with these AWSOME screenies yet not release? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/mecry.gif
Um, also, why are the persians pink? lol.
But really, this looks awsome. This is the kind of graphics MTW should have had, and I love the chariots.
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Frodo Lives, the campaign starts at the end of the Dark Ages 750BC and ends at the start of the Hellenistic age 300BC.
Roninuk, yes Phillips Phalangites are in with there 6m sarissas.
TigerVX, Purple was some kind of royal color for the Persians. The immortals used this color along with yellow and some orange. So we thought it would be best to use it.
1dread1lahll, we know of this bug. The problem is that we don’t know what is causing it. The bug appears in all very low cost units like slingers and archers.
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Ok that purple needs a slight adjustment. It looks more hot pink than purple to me. Unless the persians were pimps I dont think they would like going to battle in that. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif
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I agree: Its too pink.
Well purple has a wide variaty of colors but its too pink.
I´m sure we will look into it again.
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http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../ceasaryes.gif Awesome work. The horses are looking a lot better now.
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This mod is really looking great, except one problem I have. The hoplites are way too cartoony - they stand out like sore thumbs in most of the screenshots. That said, everything else looks great (love the new horsies). Can't wait to play this mod.
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Uh, all I see are red x's and when I click on the links I get 'Sorry, we could not find www.image-dump.com/view.php?m=2 '
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I think Antalis went over his bandwidth limit http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/rolleyes.gif
I think he's getting more excited about the release then us
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ok after beta testing this for 2 weeks (evil grin) I must say I am totally involved in my petty macedonian kingdom Talk about epic battles This game throws you into massive fate deciding battles within 4-10 years of start Goddamn Illirians attacked me with 6000 men before I even had a decent army built up Thank god for greek superiority in quality of men. Slowly but surely I beat the illirians back and finally smashed them tonight. But now the Thracians are knocking on my door. All this while I have to pray the Thessalonians dont attack my soft underbelly. And this is just the first 20 years My first king hasnt even died yet I feel like im truely struggling to keep my race alive in this ancient period. Man this mod is kick ASS Definately gets the King Azzole award of excellence. Once they get the names right and a few other gliches HOOWAH
