13er summer game thread

achro says they don't want to call katze an anime villain at least twice

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@Visor

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

achro says they don't want to call katze an anime villain at least twice

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It's true, as a fellow sufferer of 'your wolf range is infinite' I kind of hate that aspect sometimes. So I decided to give katze a fair shake.

They are an incredible wolf though and I was feeling CAGEY already after the first two votes.

it's kinda funny how their poe d1 is pretty close to the lylo playerlist

except for v-reading winston for agreeing on katze!w (lol)

good v read, (maybe?) bad reason.

Winston is never with you in any world imo given treatment of them I think so kudos if you pulled that one off.

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Originally Posted by katze

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@Visor

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i just realized that probably nobody actually gets the source image here except for me and MAYBE benneh?




...oh well i laughed making it

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Originally Posted by Achro

God it feels like everyone is interested in cape but me as I read the thread in real time. If that boy is a wolf he was in wolf chat 'yo I am kind of busy just bus me it's cool' or something because the stocks are DOWN and been down since before he did anything to my eye that's alignment anything.

All the while sk posts 5 times and everyone is like 'yeah I am sure it's fine he isn't frozen and crying in wolf chat he posted a wall why would I even vote this'

Idk just feels weird that lots of people have sk in bottom 5 but no one is willing to prod him. I know he can be town but I wanted to hear his thoughts and I never got to which sucks. I guess there's more than one scum. Just posting for visibility I guess? If cape is town this was a very scum sided day be ause despite me capping and thinking cape was OK if he dies as town that means I had no thread control (not surprising) which probably means someone who is good at controlling narratives is wolfing.

Which atp may be good for information as cape isn't exactly super villagery just expressing concerns because today to me will feel super bad if cape is town. If cape is wolf though someone on that wagon is 100% a wolf too seeing as how everyone is like 'yeah cape sure is wolfy'

Which means when cape came back this afternoon he is in antispew wifom territory.

More or less just typing out thoughts after 4pm as my post cap lifts because I am jamming to music.

In the end I guess this is a chill game and maybe this is the chill way to kill a wolf day one.
@SilverKeith I believe I pinged you earlier. Please respond I am clingy.

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achro snap voted sk for his first couple posts and asked some softball follow up questions to try to get him to actually post more and engage with the thread while shading people for calling sk wolfy and weakly white knighting cape lmao

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Originally Posted by katze

i just realized that probably nobody actually gets the source image here except for me and MAYBE benneh?




...oh well i laughed making it

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i have no clue what this is

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

i have no clue what this is

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i think it's a solar car

but upside down

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

achro snap voted sk for his first couple posts and asked some softball follow up questions to try to get him to actually post more and engage with the thread while shading people for calling sk wolfy and weakly white knighting cape lmao

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Let me fix that for you.

Shaded people for not voting SK.

Also I know how to prod in wolf chat my dude.

As for SK day 1, sadly he got me with apparently one of his new favorite tricks which I went and checked out day 3. A skill issue to be sure.

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

i have no clue what this is

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oh

in a team mafia game orangeandblack5 randed town 2 shot vig and took two terrible (in my teams opinion) vig shots to the point where we convinced ourselves that slot was never vig until we realized they had to be vig in which we fakeclaimed vig and they let us cover for them and then in team chat we were like "lol he cant take good vig shots cause hes picking up bitches in his solar car" because hes a solar car nerd

anyway heres the original image

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Originally Posted by katze

oh

in a team mafia game orangeandblack5 randed town 2 shot vig and took two terrible (in my teams opinion) vig shots to the point where we convinced ourselves that slot was never vig until we realized they had to be vig in which we fakeclaimed vig and they let us cover for them and then in team chat we were like "lol he cant take good vig shots cause hes picking up bitches in his solar car" because hes a solar car nerd

anyway heres the original image

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wish i didn't ask

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Originally Posted by Achro

Let me fix that for you.

Shaded people for not voting SK.

Also I know how to prod in wolf chat my dude.

As for SK day 1, sadly he got me with apparently one of his new favorite tricks which I went and checked out day 3. A skill issue to be sure.

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point isn't the prodding it's the shit sk posts are kinda wolfy lemme ask questions and let him post words and people will probably see him as more v

it's a textbook wolf play

you didnt ask

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Originally Posted by Achro

Hello @SilverKeith two questions. Why is it unlike me to try new things? If I recall the last game we played together, draft mafia, opened with me doing something new and interesting as well. I would say it's fairly typical in games with new conditions for me to experiment.

102 is not wolf indicative for me I am afraid. I just replaced a generic reason to wolf read ladd a little with what I felt was a stronger one to tr him. Don't see why you feel that is something that is firmly in the domain of wolf achro vs town achro. What is your experience with my wolf game?

As for Taffy first off way to shade my town sorting process, but also most would agree with the process I use to sort townirs being as you described so fair.

Anyway I don't know taffy's meta but to explain I think generally it is very town indicative to look for gotchas like Taffy did with me. I feel it is more likely villagers look at past games AND also villagers don't really consider the results before cherrypicking data. Taffy got my post count right and said 'how are you going to struggle to solve?' And didn't stop to ask if I was a wolf. Or I'd town killed any wolves. Or if I posted the last day for their posts per day to be accurate. Felt very cute and town to me.

Now if this is stuff Taffy does all the time as a wolf someone will have to let me know.

Hmm

Not sure how to feel about the wall tbh. It feels like commentaryvanyone could say. It's all fine but not hearing town in you quite yet. It's not disagreeable in its conclusions but I also dont understand why you think Taffy is the best vote in wolf achro worlds as I think I would be TMIing them town if wolf with my town read of them attempting to disarm them like I did. I guess you don't need to worry too much about pairing thoughts before any flips though and maybe thats the case here.

Can you link a wolf game where you reference other games for your first vote? I find this is usually town more than scum at a rate much higher than rand in my experience and would like to see otherwise.

If Taffy does this type of thing as a wolf with proof then they haven't done much else and fair, but it would for sure never be my first thought to think wolf.

Wall was ok although not out of sk's scum range and catchup walls are kind of the easiest thing to fake. Good look if I am wrong about Taffy though as sk could have easily pivoted to me instead.

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Originally Posted by Achro

Actually maybe lean wolf which is a little annoying because in one post SK has more content than most of the player list. This day feels destined for a chop of a villager unless I am wrong on Taffy being one. Not feeling a lot of thoughts from a lot of people hmm.

I guess my problem is I don't understand the town thought process behind not voting me there if you think I am a wolf. I am very active and also in my mind kind of unpaired with Taffy for the way I talked about him as the good thing to do there w/w is to get into some type of scuffle not top town them and praise them which I feel like can be considered much more pockety than whatever I did with ladd in that post. It feels unintuitive to me. Why read intentions into ladd interaction when the wolf achro/town Taffy ones are much more obvious. I also feel like your reasoning for Taffy is weak unless this is firmly in their usual scum initiative.

Further, it feels like the difference between these two events is commenting on ladd also allows you to smoothly town read ladd almost in the background which feels unpartnered to me.

So while I don't expect this to go anywhere since you posted a nice wall and 50 posts is not going to give me any thread pull, I guess I will vote you for now.

vote:silverkeith

Not confident or anything but I at least want follow up on my points. Some more firm discussion would be nice too if possible. If not I guess we will kill whichever villager we care about least in about 12 hours and call it a day.

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my 'snap vote' of keith btw.

I kind of put a lot of thought into this lol

anyway benneh what do you think about this crossvote

snap referred to its actual meaningfulnes not how many words were appended

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

point isn't the prodding it's the shit sk posts are kinda wolfy lemme ask questions and let him post words and people will probably see him as more v

it's a textbook wolf play

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Hmm, maybe. I kind of like what you did - ignore the slot for the majority of the day.

Avant Garde sort of wolfing, if I do say so.

the dichotomy of me explaining stupid memes and achro/cuth duking it out is really funny but i also feel bad for the potential villager in the cross

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Originally Posted by Achro

Hmm, maybe. I kind of like what you did - ignore the slot for the majority of the day.

Avant Garde sort of wolfing, if I do say so.

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yeah it let him be wolfy without giving him stuff to reply to and write generically villagery stuff in response to so i could bus the shit out of him with my partner benneh for the entirety of d2 onwards and then win in lylo off the credit apparently

huge

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Originally Posted by katze

the dichotomy of me explaining stupid memes and achro/cuth duking it out is really funny but i also feel bad for the potential villager in the cross

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Don't, I am in good spirits. My brain broke but when my brain doesn't break I am actually really chill lol. If we lose this its nbd

I think I planned this well though. In v!Benneh worlds he simply always votes Cuth here since I am his top villager and he both agreed with my case on cuth yesterday and also suspected cuth before.

In w!benneh worlds, I think I also forced his hand because if he suddenly turns around and votes me then I hope that winston would find that very strange indeed.

So my cross today should be rather pain free, I think. It's f3 that's more scary in my estimation.

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Originally Posted by katze

anyway benneh what do you think about this crossvote

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honestly not sure

im withholding judgement til im slightly sober

i liked the part where i literally explained how literally what i literally posted in the past addressed every single reason you had to call me a wolf d3 and then you voted me and said i was making shit up

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

yeah it let him be wolfy without giving him stuff to reply to and write generically villagery stuff in response to so i could bus the shit out of him with my partner benneh for the entirety of d2 onwards and then win in lylo off the credit apparently

huge

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tbh I'd have probably just bussed SK for being so absent and then won this game off the cred of that + ladd town reading me.

I don't usually bus day one in general as its not nice, but SK's a pro.

Katze also at least knows that what you are describing is really not in my wolf playbook - below skill floor as it were.

Although winston I am guessing will be the game's decider unless benneh does a super heel turn here lol

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Originally Posted by Achro

Don't, I am in good spirits. My brain broke but when my brain doesn't break I am actually really chill lol. If we lose this its nbd

I think I planned this well though. In v!Benneh worlds he simply always votes Cuth here since I am his top villager and he both agreed with my case on cuth yesterday and also suspected cuth before.

In w!benneh worlds, I think I also forced his hand because if he suddenly turns around and votes me then I hope that winston would find that very strange indeed.

So my cross today should be rather pain free, I think. It's f3 that's more scary in my estimation.

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this stuff makes me want to snap vote lol

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

i liked the part where i literally explained how literally what i literally posted in the past addressed every single reason you had to call me a wolf d3 and then you voted me and said i was making shit up

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Well, obviously I disagreed and was correct so I can't say I am sorry.

Your reasons lacked genuineness to me. Can't exactly be too sorry for being right lol

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Originally Posted by Achro

tbh I'd have probably just bussed SK for being so absent and then won this game off the cred of that + ladd town reading me.

I don't usually bus day one in general as its not nice, but SK's a pro.

Katze also at least knows that what you are describing is really not in my wolf playbook - below skill floor as it were.

Although winston I am guessing will be the game's decider unless benneh does a super heel turn here lol

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below skill floor lmao

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

this stuff makes me want to snap vote lol

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go ahead, I think you're a wolf atm anyway my dude.

If we lose, we lose, that's alright.

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Originally Posted by Achro

Well, obviously I disagreed and was correct so I can't say I am sorry.

Your reasons lacked genuineness to me. Can't exactly be too sorry for being right lol

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yeah well at least maybe you'll be able to feel proud for winning a game by blatantly not even trying to read posts

skill issue of me to try in the first place tbh

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Originally Posted by Achro

Although winston I am guessing will be the game's decider unless benneh does a super heel turn here lol

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

this stuff makes me want to snap vote lol

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i lol'd