http://www.zwaardvechten.nl/content....iewitem&id=761
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You can do anything with his beard for a Germanic unit? :2thumbsup:
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http://www.zwaardvechten.nl/content....iewitem&id=761
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You can do anything with his beard for a Germanic unit? :2thumbsup:
Only if the picture was bigger...:no: Anyway I'm thinking of creating a thread were everyone can post the faces they would wish to see in EB2's units.
This would help us, artists, since we wouldn't lose time searching for useful pics however I would need a volunteer to coordonate the thread. But if no one volunteers then no problem I'll just drop this idea.~:)
I would be entirely glad to volunteer my own face. Are you in need of someone with a full crop of peachfuzz? :clown:
Actually, that wouldn't be too out of place for some Barbarian skirmishers. Or hell, psiloi
Before too much confusion is settled, let me point out a few things:Quote:
Originally Posted by The General
- the shield doesn't look from the getai... :juggle2:
- the unit is rendered in a spearmen animation, but it may not be its final animation family
- elite units don't require large amounts of armour and/or oversized shields; the elite status is given mostly by their martial skill or fanaticism during battle.
...or extensive experience in tribal warfare and skirmishes. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by JMRC
Yay for another barbarian unit that can be quickly slaughtered by javelins.
...or being filthy rich, buying the best armor.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Praetor-
(wasn't this the main reason? Allmost all elite units i've know of has been composed by nobles etc etc.)
~:) But what about to volunteer to manage the thread apart from that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Frontline1944
Yes it does look like a shield you guys would give an Germanic soldier and the rest of the equipment as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMRC
Seeing Germanics were Iron-Poor this may very well be a Germanic elite, then again the Germanic elite Bodyguard were known as Long Haired Companions. :sweatdrop:
I agree with you, good idea !Quote:
Originally Posted by Tux
There is some truth in this, but wealth alone does not a good warrior make. Often, nobles would have such wealth and status because they were leading warriors, not the other way round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smeel
You needed to be very rich to afford the best cataphract armour, but you needed to be very fit to use it.
Seems like it was a Getai unit afterall, and it seems it wasn't an elite unit either:
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Early and Late versions of a getai spearman are in the build and a light cavalryman is also finished by Gustave. Tux made the models. - JMRC
No, they are 2 different units.
Hmm, sounds like the Dacian light/heavy phalanx. :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Phalanx300
you can go ahead and use my face as a unit... I dont quite have a full beard, but theres something..
I posted a picture of me wearing Chain mail that ive made in the Main EB subforum, If your interested. Id be honored..
Working on the Hoplite overhand animations now.10 done, 52 still to do.Trying to do this fast, to begin with the gladius anims ASAP. Praetor - about 1 hour ago from web
Nice to hear! Take as much time as you need, though (this is for EBII in general). I don't see any need to rush.
Thats great! Does that mean we will have 52 animations in EB2?
And for the Hoplite formation, basicly it should look like here on 3:54 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkEO...e=channel_page
They shouldn't move their shield away when stabbing.
It would also be nice if you made hoplites so they didn't do that slow weird power stab and instead do a quick little straight line strikes like the guy at 3:54.
Not really. Erm, let me explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phalanx300
A hoplite animation is not a single animation, it's a family of animations. This family of animations is composed of several (normaly several dozens) of animations that are each used by the soldier every time he stabs, walks, runs, covers, retreats, advances, taunts, celebrates, dies, scratches his arse, etc.
And there's also the transitional animations, which are when the hoplite passes from running to walking (and viceversa), running to charge (and vv.), standing idle to standing guard (and vv.), standing guard to advance (and vv.), standing guard to retreat (and vv.), etc.
So, when you start customizing an animation to be used by a single type of warrior, i.e. the hoplite, considering his long spear and his very wide shield, you have to change quite a broad range of animations inside that animation family to avoid jumps and glitches.
Hence, 52 animations means 52 animations *inside* the hoplite animation family.
For instance, some animations needed for the hoplite are:
Retreat (stand-alone):
https://h.imagehost.org/0856/retreat.gif
Retreat to ready (transition):
https://h.imagehost.org/0717/retreattoready.gif
Charge to ready (transition):
https://h.imagehost.org/0616/chargetoready.gif
I could watch the retreat animation for hours and hours. ~:) Great stuff!!
Wow, those are wonderful especially the retreat one. The low camera angle on the bottom one makes him look like he's skipping. All wonderful.
Indeed. However, I notice in the animations that the hoplite is carrying both a dory spear and a sword in the same [right] hand. Is this intentional?Quote:
Originally Posted by machinor
That was the idea. Nice.:yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by antisocialmunky
Ah, I forgot to delete the sword when doing the preview. The fact is that the model holds both primary and secondary weapons, every time. When the skin is applied to the model, the alpha channel virtually "deletes" the secondary weapon, or the primary depending which one the soldier wants to use, by making it transparent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frontline1944
So don't worry, he will only hold the spear during battle.
As others have said, that animation is just beautiful. :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by -Praetor-
How do you get guys to retreat by the way?
It's part of the game. Literally.
Whoh thats great!
And yeah as the other said you can now slowly retreat your units without showing your back? That would be a mayor breakthrough if so. :sweatdrop:
Perhaps you guys can use these videos made by the Spartiatikes Mores Reenactment group, they know their stuff and their Phalanx impression looks the most realistic so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHZt...layer_embedded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2XL...eature=related
Amazing animations! :2thumbsup:
Dang. I hoped that there was a retreat order that I just had somehow managed to miss. Oh well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios