cool, btw if you have some new units done Legio, i'll convert the stats, just post them in the thread that was designed for it, oke.
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cool, btw if you have some new units done Legio, i'll convert the stats, just post them in the thread that was designed for it, oke.
Umeu, when you write the stats, do you edit their abilitys, and personality, voicetype, and fightnoice too?
you should probably see all the unit's to determen what ability that suits them.
I allso think that the techtree for the vikings must be changed a bit. I can't see the berserker-unit at all ~:confused:
Oh, berserkers were in one of the religious buildings :) I thought it was more interesting to have most of the fanatic units trained in the religious buildings rather than in the normal troop buildings...
Ah, ok, i had some good plans for them..
-Skel-
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Originally Posted by skeletor
i can change voicetype, but i'm limited to what RTW has now. i can edit abilities ofcourse, but i'm not sure what you meant with personality.
i have a layout wich works fine and is pretty balanced. (with a good killrate that is.) i've recently worked out my recruit and maintenance layout. it has been prefected for civiliesd factions but not for barbarians.
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are you talking about my techtree.
Strategy Map Characters look
If I'm not wrong, this is quite similar to battlemap skinning and modelling.
Some suggestions...
Diplomats
Should have typical clothes for that nation, nothing fancy. Not white hair, but rather brown/dark hair. Not necessarily long robes, but maybe a long brown robe for vikings.
Spies
Also more normal look, maybe get rid of the hood.
Captains
The average solider look. Vikings: typical viking armour but no fancy helmet.
Generals
Much like the vanilla family members, but not so fancy and of course more appropriate to our factions.
Assassins
Less exotic than the vanilla one, but maybe some dark clothes.
Ships
Should be fleets on icons. Could also maybe look as a fleet on strategy map, where we can duplicate ships so it looks like we have 3-4 instead of one.
It's all in all for giving our mod an unique look, also I've seen somebody is in the process of making multiplayer for campaignmap, making this aspect even more important.
If some of the factions characters turns out to alike, we can distiguish them by some small differences, for instance darker hair on scots than irish, blond hair for swedish and brown for danes and so on...
Spies should get rid of hood and also get rid of the knife.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScionTheWorm
Captains would be good to have looking like either a standard infantry warrior or a light cavalryman IMO.
Generals should IMO look like a heavy cavalryman of a type used by the faction.
Assassins should have the dagger the spies have, and dark clothes sounds good, as long as they're normal clothes in all other aspects than that they're darker.
Ships, Diplomats and the solution if two look alike - I agree.
I think the hood for the assassin is fine, as long as it's a hood that was on historical clothing. Maybe some assassins will have them, and others not? It'd be cool to have more variation in all the "pieces".
Going back to the assassins-with-hoods idea, maybe some of the Diplomats should have white hair. There's no way to change the piece as they age (and even if there is, what a pile of work!), so a few factions should have more elderly gentlemen.
Assassins, for the most part, should have facial hair as a way to reinforce that "tough guy" feeling in RTW that I thought was great. Any weapon is good - a short sword, a club, a knife, a crossbow...go nuts.
I think the family members on the strategy map should look like nobles from the factions, not just heavy cavalrymen. Will all the generals' units be cavalry, by the way?
I agree about fleets, but can the actual ships be changed? I'd rather see an actual drakkar on the seas that the dinky biremes (or whatever they really were) from RTW. If possible, each culture group should get their own ships.
Strat map models are not much different from battle-map. If you want cavalry you'll have to do a new animation, and the skeleton could be a problem because there is no model with both man and horse in vanilla. I've only made infantry strat-models (for citadel TW), to make it easier for me.
I've had difficulties with modelling ships because the barbarian ships I've tried so far won't export even though I make no changes.
Tell me if you wan't me to do any voice-recording in swedish.
it's very easy to manipulate the current skins of the strategy characters. Here are just some very hasty skins for a norse diplomat, just to test it.
https://img358.imageshack.us/img358/...plomats4tm.jpg
I know it's ugly.
I think all cultures can and must have only one model of:
diplomats
spies
assassins
That means they will all look alike on model-base. This could be solved with putting everything we need on one model, and use the alpha channel to get rid of it, allthough there are limits when thinking about the size of the skin.
I've learned some animation now... tried to visualize an idea for the mod, so I made this... it's quite crappy, both video quality and quality generally, so it's no trailer or something... well a very unofficial animation
http://rapidshare.de/files/5034506/riders.wmv.html
edit: oh it's quite bad! giving me a good old vhs feeling..
damn spelled wrong too...
What unit is that featured in the larger pic above? It appears in the video and is making me even more curious.
More Nile, eh? I won't tell anyone. Not a bad animation, though. A video of a battle would be nice... ~D
Edit: Have you heard the new album, by the way?
no nile here, was it? where? ~D
The unit above is the servant of god, heaven and the bringer of grim death.
I think we might bring a rendered battle scene... no tapen video from rtw. of course only if it turns out a little better than this...
yes it was very hard with some nice riffs, I liked it. Though my favourite is still in their darkened shrines..Quote:
Originally Posted by NeonGod
I'll have to look into it, then.
ITDS was good, but I sometimes crave the old-school flavour of Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-Ka.
I tend to keep listening to death, atheist, bolt thrower, nile and kreator and slayer... not that much old-school badass deathmetal, but hey I enjoy that too. just in case, since we're talking music here suddenly
Nothing wrong with any of that. I don't listen to much Bolt Thrower, though...did you know they write the lyrics about Warhammer?
I just finished watching a music video for Reign in Blood made from scenes from the Passion of the Christ and a huge collection of hardcore porn. I'd post a link on how to find it, but I got in trouble for linking to a zombie porn last week.
Ever heard of Nunslaughter?
no nunslaughter on me I'm afraid... old school?
bolt thrower sings about war, but on their last pieces they sing about modern war. their last album is one of my absolute favourites, quite monothonic, but groovy as hell.
ouch with that zombie porn...
Seriously. Who doesn't like zombie porn?
Yeah, Nunslaughter's old school, but are still making music. Formed in '87, I think... if you can find it (Soulseek'll probably do it), Goat is a wicked album. I recommend it with enthusiasm.
Me :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by NeonGod
Oh, Meneldil. You're such a kidder.
It's just a spoof of Re-Animator, actually. It really is funny...I'm beginning to want to post the link again. Argh.
wow nunslaughter:goat had some really hard riffs... will look more into it
edit: the last 4-5 tracks are awesome..
sort of like a crossing of kreator and pestilence... heard pestilence with their first album "malleus malificarum"? it's pretty rare, but got my hands around a first release on some music market... really surprised me
I've heard of that album, but I've never heard the music. Looking into it as I type this.
Personally, I think the whole album is killer. My favourite tracks are Immune to Poison and Raid the Convent (#5 & 6), but that line in on track 12 is too sweet ("sacrifice a fucking...GOOOOOAT").
I got a ton of new music last night, and it all rules. Ever heard of Wind of the Black Mountains?
Well, I think it's possible to use if some adjustments are made.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScionTheWorm
What I had in mind when I said a rider in a landscape full of corpses was a gallopping knight riding into the picture (away from the watcher), being quite small. He'd ride through a complex landscape (probably hard to fix), then there'd be more and more corpses, and the camera would get more and more shaky, some slow motion and blur effects added, and the rider would zoom in closer and closer. If possible, some sounds of screaming should be added to the last, psychadelic slow motion/blur/etc. parts of the movie. Would be a great menu movie to loop over and over again, with no text at all.
For the logo in the end, could you make it rotate fast and the slower and slower and then stop, with a sound much like the one in the menu of R:TW and M:TW?
As for the intro movie, I reckon that's the place to have the text. I'm not sure how complex it is to create a movie, might take a very long time, but in the intro movie it's possible to have more of a "storyline" as it's not looped over and over again. Perhaps I should write an introduction text (with the same type of content as the text in the Introduction thread?) for that purpose? After a calm intro with this text, some loud battle scenes and the loud sounds of metal against metal and battle shouts would make a nice contrast... Gah, I'm out of exact ideas at the moment.
I got that Pestilence album (and another one called Consuming Impulse) and I'm listening to it now. It reminds me of Slayer. It's a pretty good release so far.
I was really surprised to see a song titled "Extreme Unction" on the album, too. There's a Necrophagist song from the Onset of Putrefaction album with the same title and it's nothing like the Pestilence song of the same name.
"Extreme Unction", that's weird. not one of the most usual common titles
Malleus malificarum is not regarded as a very good record, though I keep it dear to my heart
Consuming Impulse is of course the masterpiece but as I understood you're pretty into deathmetal, and have probably heard it. all good tracks, but after this record they more or less went melodic and fusion death metal (wtf)
I saw suffocation live this summer, that track no 2 on Pierced From Within (Thrones Of Blood) hit me pretty hard
that actually sounds very good legio, I like your intro movie idea very much. but I'm not sure we should use sound effects though, just have some tune beiing played.
the video was just a practice, so just posted it for the fun of it
Yeah, Suffocation's playing in my city in October. Should be a good show.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScionTheWorm
I haven't listened to Consuming Impulse yet...still more music to get through first.
Theres nothing wrong with melodic fusion death/black metal...
Dimmu Borgir, Amorphis, Cradle Of Filth, Children Of Bodom etc.
I actually prefer them to stuff like Morbid Angel, Napalm Death etc. its all about the musicianship.