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I find myself wavering due to senator Publius Laevinius (shifty157) argument. I would not have a problem with starting the auxilia process immediately in one or even two cities that have a decent population. Still, we will need to concentrate on increasing our revenue in our other cities in my opinion. An Auxilia II building goes for ca. 8000 denarii. It will take us two or more seasons to raise this kind of money at the moment. I wonder if we do not at the moment posess two cities that already have a market and roads ? Those would be ideal and could be given priority above all other cities.
Edit : It seems senator Tiberius agrees with me. This is very pleasing.
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[QUINTUS]: Noble Senators, I have been studying the votes already cast and your will is becoming clearer to me. But I have one question on which I would seek your counsel. It considers Motion 7 - the creation of a fourth legion. My question is this - where should that legion be deployed in the event that I strike into Sicily?
Currently, we have three legions - two attached to our Consular army and one to our Praetorian army. (Here I do count only our mobile forces - not the troops spread across our settlements in garrisons.) Both armies are accompanied by corresponding alae, made up by our Italian brothers. All are somewhat understrength but within the year will be replenished.
Suppose we raise a fourth legion, where should it be assigned? I see three possibilities:
- in the north, with our Praetorian army, to guard against Gaulish incursions. This addition would make our Praetorian army effectively a second Consular army.
- in the centre, to guard against seaborne incursions in our heartlands or to reinforce either the north or the south if under threat.
- in Sicily, to assist the Consular army in its conquest of Carthaginian settlements (again, I do not mean light garrison duties - these will be performed by other formations).
I would welcome any thoughts on this question. My personal inclination would be to assign the legion to the centre, acting as a strategic reserve. However, some of your talk of the danger of facing Carthage counsels against this.
Pray remember, I wish only your advice made on the assumption that we strike Carthage in Sicily and not Gaul in the north.
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A 4 unit garrison in our northern towns is sufficient to hold of any Gaul army. I therefore propose send the third legion to guard the rear of the Consul army should it invade Sicily, to make sure no army slips past him into our undefend heartland. The fourth legion I'd advise to station next to Rome to serve as a 'Guard' division to counter any invasion in our mainland or to supress a rebel uprising, should it occur.
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If the consular army alone is sufficient to conquer Sicily then I would advise that IV Legion be stationed in central Italy to deter any Carthaginian invasion attempt, or to react to it should it occur.
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Legio IV should be placed in the centre of our core cities: Roma, Capua and Ancona. This is almost the centre of our lands, and so any naval invasion can be answered to swiftly and decisively. I agree that the Gauls are no major threat. They are barbarians, after all. One Praetorian army is enough to hold them off. I therefore urge that Legio IV be raised immediately for the defense of Italia against any Carthaginian assault.
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Why may i ask would any army land in the center of Italy? If we charge into Sicily then Carthage would support its troops in Sicily with reinforcements and not mount a time consuming expedition by sea to Rome. Would you do this in Carthage's position? No. It would be a foolish alocation of forces when all of sicily stands on the brink of collapsing.
The greeks then. They hate us right? Not enough to divert forces away from their wars with Macedon who threatens them on their own soil. Would you send forces off on overseas expeditions when war rages around your own capital? If the Greeks find any reason to send troops in our direction it will be to Syracuse where they at least have some stake in keeping the city alive and in their hands.
The Gauls then. No i wont even waste my tongue disproving any Gaulish seaborne invasion when they are only a two season march from Rome as it is.
So I say that this army should be assigned to one of the two fronts. Personally i dont believe that so few troops as you state could hold off a Gaulish invasion and therefore I think some reinforcements to the north would be very well placed. I also believe that a Consular army with reinforcements is more than adequate to conquer Sicily.
Now I return to Senator Tiberius' argument that we are not currently at war with Carthage or Gaul and therefore we do not need to begin auxiliary assimilation. How many times do i need to repeat myself that i know this. WE DO NOT NEED THE EXTRA TROOPS NOW. But in 15 seasons (4 years) we will. Alot can happen in 15 seasons. Indeed in 15 seasons we may be landing on the shores of Carthage herself. In 15 seasons we may be in the heart of the Gaulish empire. In 15 seasons we may have landed another army onto the shores of Greece. This is all possible because 15 seasons is a huge amount of time. What will you do then when we are forced to divide our meager three reinforcements between Gaul and Carthage? What will you do then when those same reinforcements are forced to undertake a journey of several years just to reach the front line? You speak of wasting money. I think it is a huge waste of money to pay our troops every season to march 2 years and never once lift their swords just to reach the front line.
But again I am thinking of the future and you are thinking of only the present.
Where will the money come from? Do you really expect our armies to sit around for four years languishing in dissuse? No. They will be conquering more provinces in Sicily and northern Italy. We will agin our funds from all of these new holdings which will literally double the size and income of our empire. Suddenly a few thousand denari isnt as big an expense when our treasury makes an income of in excess of 10,000 denari every season!
Or we could wait until our treasury reaches this amount and begin the auxiliary assimilation then. And then we can have the money and then we can wait the 4 years. But by the time they are done only one of two things could have happened. The first being that the war is completely over. The second and far more probable being that our stingy reinforcements were not sufficient to withstand the entire military weight of the Carthaginian empire and were decisively defeated resulting in a fearful stale mate or worse a complete loss of the war.
We must begin now so that we can reap the benefits before it is too late for them.
Im sure that there are buildings in many of the previously Greek cities which are of no use to us and can be disassembled or sold for more money.
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QUINTUS: Senator Publius Laevinius, on a point of information I regret to remind you that Greece and Macedon are currently allied. I agree that a naval landing in the centre of Italy by Carthage is unlikely. If they come, it will surely be near Lilybauem as it is closest to their homeland.
However, I believe a landing by Greece in the centre or south - near Tarentum - is a contingency we must prepare for. It is only a stone's throw away from their territory in Illyria, whereas Syracuse is several season's passage. Armies in the north or in Sicily would not be able to respond in time, particularly given the lack of a road network.
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So, senator, you propose that we only assimilate. This costs an incredibly high amount of money, which I doubt we could manage while we 'conquer more provinces in Sicily and Northern Italy'.
Are you so naive to believe that wars will benefit our treasuries immediately? Wars are expensive, as they cost trade with our neighbours, and cost the lives of many good Romans. Many new recruits will have to be drafted to support a war against Carthage, and I doubt that we will gain very much from Sicily when our economy is weak. Why? Because we would still be poor, and Carthage has the finest navy in the sea. Sicily's riches are due to its trade routes, not due to many abundant resources.
When Carthage blocks all the trade routes, I then ask you. How would we attack the Carthaginian homeland? How would we gain enough funds to build a fleet to defend our Italian holdings and transport troops to Africa? The answer is, we cannot. If all of the senators were as warmongering as you are, then Rome is a lost cause and will be doomed.
I will not allow Rome to fall, and the lack of funds is the surest road to destruction. Do not believe that we are invincible, having conquered much of Italia. Pyrrhus was but one general and a first test for Rome. The Carthaginians will be able to muster many more troops than Pyrrhus, and our army will be but one third larger than when we faced Pyrrhus.
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Conscript Fathers, what is this blood-lust that has come over you all?
We have not even finished the war with Greece and yet some of you are full of talk of wars with Carthage and Gaul! Thankfully there are some true Romans out there with some common sense such as Publius Laevenius and my father Lucius Amelius. War with Carthage at this point would be madness! Our armies have not the strength to fight a long war with such a superpower, and our navy nowhere near strong enough to conduct a war with anyone, let alone Carthage!
As for those of you who propose war with Gaul, you contradict yourself noble Senators! On the one hand you tell us that they are a threat who must be destroyed, then in the same breath you tell us they are weak and will be easily conquered! Which is it Conscript Fathers? I support those who say that war with Gaul will just add a further drain to our resources as we must rebuild their Barbarian settlements to civilized Roman standards.
And I must add, what have Carthage and Gaul done for us to declare war on them with such surprise and haste? Oh, I know all about our history with those two, I haven't forgotten. But,
*bangs fist*
THIS IS NOT THE ROMAN WAY!!!!!!!
I repeat Conscript Fathers, this is not the Roman way!!!
I urge our Consul Quintus to pursue a policy of consolidation, of Romanising our Italian acquisitions, of building our strength for the trials which lie ahead. And of finishing the war with Greece! How can some of you talk of war across the mediterranean, when at any moment the Greeks may stab us from behind? We must first finish the war with Greece, either through a diplomatic agreement, or by taking this war to their shores, before we do anything else. Sadly, I was unable to attend the Senate yesterday, for if I was I would have proposed a motion in this regard.
*sits down*
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I do not like war with Carthage, but unless we act, they shall attack us. Knowing that consuls want to gain a favour and popularity by victorious wars, it is no surprise that some of the future candidates are supporting this.
And young Manius, should you not be in bed asleep? I am deeply shocked and suprised that your father let you come to the Senate at this late hour, and even more surprised that he let you, a minor, express his own opinion in such a forceful way, against a noble Senator, and your elder.
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Originally Posted by Ignoramus
I do not like war with Carthage, but unless we act, they shall attack us.
But we are in no position to support a war with Carthage! We may quick and easy gains on Sicily, but once they have regrouped from that, their ability to recruit large armies, and their strong navy give them the ability to strike us at will! If war must come, at least let us make sure we are strong enough for it!.
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And young Manius, should you not be in bed asleep? I am deeply shocked and suprised that your father let you come to the Senate at this late hour, and even more surprised that he let you, a minor, express his own opinion in such a forceful way, against a noble Senator, and your elder.
These are exceptional times Sextus. Though the Mos Maorium forbids it, you entered the Senate before the age of 30, and were furthermore sent on an important diplomatic mission. Rome does not currently have enough patricians of noble birth to go around, so underage men like you and I must step into the breach.
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Conscript Fathers! I believe I have a solution to the problem of trying to take Syracuse, and ending the war with Greece!
Perhaps we could send Sextus Antio, on a diplomatic mission to Greece to offer them a ceasefire, in return for which we would receive Syracuse. Roman honour would be satisfied with such a peace deal, and we would receive the strategically vital deep water port that we crave. Let me know your thoughts Conscript Fathers.
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That is a wise suggestion, my friend, but I do not think the Greeks will give in so easily. They would most likely demand their former Italian possessions should we sue for peace, and perhaps even demand monetary compensation for their loss.
I agree with you though, Manius, in that war is unnecessary. It will happen, of that I am sure. But why should we Romans be the aggressors? Unless they violate a treaty or attack a friend of Rome, I see no reason to attack Carthage yet. We should consolidate our holdings on the Italian peninsula for now, assimilating some of the peoples and strengthening the economy of the rest of Italia. Gold is vital to our survival, and so must be put before the complete assimilation of Italia and the granting of Roman citizenship to them.
For now, I suggest that we follow my father's suggestion, and take a defensive stance on the mainland. Only when we are powerful enough can we attempt to fight the mighty Carthaginians. We must be patient, and build up our strength while the Phoenicans wrestle with the Numidians and Iberians for control of both their homelands respectively. We should not actively seek war with Carthage, but I suggest an alliance with her enemies, to enable us to fight one enemy at a time.
Amvlivs Tiberivs Coruncanivs
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I disagree Senator Manius, though I am currently in the wilds of Scythia, and long to see civilization again, Rome has need of my services. It takes my couriers weeks to reach Rome, and I fear it would take at least 18 months to retrace my steps to Greece. I instead suggest that I may continue on my way until Egypt, and there march along the coast to Carthage where I may be of some use.
Senator Manius, you are but 15 years of age. I applaud your zeal and desire to serve the Republic, but I have learnt one or two things from the nations I have passed through, and one of them is that Greeks are stubborn fools, and will never make peace that favours Rome.
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Then we must make them accept peace. If we cannot come to peace terms with them, then surely the war must be taken to the Greek homelands? Perhaps they will be more, er, malleable, once it is their homes that are threatened...
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I do believe that Senator Antio is overworked. I suggest that at least one, maybe two other of our senators be ambassadors to Rome. The first new diplomat could be in contact in the factions we are keeping an eye on (such as Carthage, for example) and the second could be stationed in Italia, ready for the worst.
I am but a lowly Upper House senator, but I volunteer myself for this task.
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While I applaud my son's zeal for our nation, and admire the hot blood which is clearly flowing trough his veins, I feel the plan of an invasion is also beyond our present means. This calls for a fleet, which we cannot afford unfortunately. Then again, he has gotten me thinking that if we capture Syracuse and the Greeks feel that all hope of regaining their colonies is lost, then they might be more receptive to an offer of ceasefire.
So perhaps a quick surgical strike at Syracuse and the eradication of all Greek forces in Italy and Sicily might be the best solution. With the Greeks out of our hair we face only one potential enemy in the south of Italy, namely Carthage.
If we try this, we must march in such force that Carthage won't dare to waylay our armies. I recommend sending in the consular army, while the third legion guards the route into Italy south of Rhegium. We will need a fourth legion to watch our northern borders while we do this. I further recommend we enslave the population of Syracuse and sell all the military and greek auxilia buildings. If we have to make a hasty retreat later due to unforseen circumstances, we will still have profitted from this raid.
This is just an idea, there are certainly risks associated with this plan. What do you think, my fellow senators ?
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[SENATE SPEAKER]: It is now the Summer of 276. By Jove, doesn't time fly? First Consul Quintus has posted a commentary on the past two years in his reports to Senate. He has only two more seasons in office, but currently awaits news from Legate Tiberius Coruncanius of an engagement with rebels outside Ancona.
Senators, in view of the passage of time, we may soon expect to have to elect a new First Consul and to decide on the future direction of our great republic if First Consul Quintus is successful in his aim of securing Sicily. Provided we hear soon from Legate Coruncanius, I expect to open a full end-term of Senate in the next day or two. After that announcement, there will be two days for debate, the proposing of motions and the nomination of candidates for first Consul, followed by one day for voting.
But I encourage you now to nominate yourselves as candidates for the position of First Consul and to begin debate on what should be the aims of our republic over the next five years.
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[SENATE SPEAKER]: The reign of Quintus as First Consul has ended.
Senators wishing to stand for election as First Consul should do so by presenting manifestoes here.
Senators wishing to propose motions should do so now. All motions must be seconded to be voted on, although this will doubtless not be a problem for influential Senators.
The deadline for nominations and motions is Thursday 6pm UK time, when voting will open.
Voting will close on Friday 6pm UK time.
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Estemmed Senators, I am sorry I was not present for recent votes, though the Republic seems even in better shape now then when I left. I have 2 motions I would like to put up for the Senate's discussion:
Motion 1: That this house focuses on naval buildings in Tarentum and Syracuse
Motion 2: That this house raises a new legion to go north and begin attacking Gaul at Jenuensis OR Bononia.
These will provide funding and facilities for a navy and will give us a greater buffer zone to the north of Roma.
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[QUINTUS]: Welcome, Senator Publius Panga - it is good to see you on the Senate floor after your sterling service as governor of Roma.
I wonder if I could request that you amend motion #1 slightly so as to exclude Roma? Documents posted in the Senate library by our surveyors indicate that Roma is unsuitable as a first class military harbour. Personally, I would much rather see the great city work towards a forge, so that our troops may have the best armour and equipment. Few other cities will ever grow large enough to support such industry. After that, I believe the size of Roma will make it an excellent centre for commerce. By contrast, Tarentum and Syracuse have the potential to produce the finest warships. And indeed, the Greeks have left us much of the necessary infrastructure at Syracuse.
I am in complete agreement with the rest of your motions.
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Of course ex-Consul Quintus, I have ammended it accordingly. Roma is needed for other buildings for now.
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Ha. You Senators talking on and on about this and that. Arguing about this and that. Who to be afraid of next.
If I am ever in doubt as to the state of the empire I merely have to take walk to my food pantry to find that the Empire is doing very well for itself. And so am I. Indeed I have food brought to my table from every corner of the world. While Im sampling the finest wine from my personal vineyards you senators sit about bickering and arguing and passing your silly motions. I chuckle at you all.
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These are my motions, noble senators.
MOTION #3: This house proposes that the new consul makes peace with Carthage, with the option of taking Melite before they do so.
MOTION #4: This house proposes that no offensives or conquests be made in the next 5 years, the only exception being if we are attacked.
MOTION #5: This house proposes that the new consul focus on the economy and prosperity, rather than army.
MOTION #6: This house proposes that Senator Quintus be appointed governor of the province of Sicily, with his provincal capital at Messana.
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Manifesto of Augustus Verginus, Candidate for Consulship
Conscript Fathers, Rome is triumphant!
Under the military brilliance of Senator Quintus and the watchful eyes of this august body, the Republic has entered a new age of power and prosperity. Five years ago, Rome could count on only the support of two of her Italian neighbors. Now, such a short time later, five more Italian provinces have sworn alliances with our citizens. Moreover, the Greeks have been expelled from the peninsula and their cities taken. Incredible successes have even taken the entire island of Sicily under our guidance. In all, Rome now controls nearly five times the territory that it did five years ago. Glory and triumph!
Yet, despite these successes, our future remains uncertain. We have but three Legions in arms, two combined into a Consular army in Agrigento and the third guarding our northern border with Gaul. While these brave men have helped secure our new territories, they will need the strength of further comrades if they are to keep all Romans safe from enemies, north or south. In addition, our infrastructure is primitive at best. We lack roads in nearly every province, our naval buildings are minimal, and few of our new territories have even begun the work required to make them suitable for recruiting auxilia. No plans for the conversion of any of the Sicilian provinces or any of the Greek cities has yet been layed.
Despite all of this, some Senators yet push for war with Gaul. I ask you, brothers, war for what end? War with what armies? We have achieved much, yet we have much still to achieve. We must secure our new acquisitions, ensure that their men are organized so as to provide auxiliaries for our Legions, improve provincial infrastructure and economics, and raise further Legions to secure our borders and to prepare for future conquests.
Now, I know some Senators will undoubtedly say we can do both at once. Perhaps we can, but perhaps we will make ourselves vulnerable. Is five years such a long time to wait? Much can be accomplished in such a time frame. The Republic is eternal, is there really such urgency that our vengence upon the Gauls cannot wait but a few years? Certainly, I do not advocate passivism. If we are attacked, we should certainly defend ourselves vigorously, both offensively and defensively. I say too that military opporunities should not be passed up, if they become available. Peace should be sought with Greece and Carthage, but diplomacy is a fickle beast and such a ceasefire may prove elusive. In such an event, options may become available to make expeditions to the Carthaginian island cities of Melite, Caralis, and Aleria. These are mere extensions of our existing conflict with the Punic nation. Let us concentrate any further advances in their direction if peace cannot be secured. Let us strengthen the Republic, secure our hold on the seas, and build our armies. Let us prepare for the Gauls; we shall deal with them soon enough.
I swear before Jupiter that I shall endeavor to achieve all of this and more if elected Consul. A vote for Verginus is a vote for prosperity!
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Hear, hear, Senator Verginus speaks sensibly, we must consolidate our gains. Rome can wait five years for further conquest, but it cannot wait for loyalty in the provinces.
However, I disagree about taking Caralis and Aleria. Carthage has lost Sicily. That is enough. Besides, how would we supply these islands? Rome must stick to land warfare whereever possible, and leave the waters to Carthage.
Those rash enough to advocate war with Gaul seek neither honour or gain for the Republic. They only seek to gain glory and honour for themselves, and would sacrifice the good of the Roman Republic for their own greedy needs, rather than seek the good of Rome.
And in summing up, I present further motions.
MOTION #7: This house moves that Legio I and Legio II move to forts on the border between Gaul and Rome in Northern Italy.
MOTION #8: This house moves that Legio III moves to a fort in southern Italia.
MOTION #9: This house moves that Legio IV moves to a fort in central Sicilia.
MOTION #10: This house moves that the Senate votes on the names the legions. (I.e. Legio I Victrix or Legio III Italia.)
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I must express my disagreement, Senator Antio. Melite, at the very least, should be secured for the Republic. It is but a few miles offshore from Syracuse, and therefore in the perfect position for the Phoenicans to build up an army and launch a counter-attack on Sicily. We should deny them any chance to go on the offense against us, and we should at the very least blockade the island, so that even if they do build an army against us, it will prove impossible to actually attack us.
However, I do agree with my colleagues in that Rome simply must consolidate her position. Why, even Senator Laevinius the warmonger has taken to sitting idly in his villa sampling wine! Surely this shows that Rome is in no danger, otherwise he would be present here proposing motions of aggression and expansion. The Gauls are a threat, but I believe that an army of the Praetorian size will be able to guard us from danger, especially under Senator Lucius Aemilius, who has proved his military expertise in a tactical game in Roma's finest academy.
And so, senators, I urge you all to vote aye for Motions I, III, IV, V and VI.
Long live the republic!
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Senators, I have amended Motion #3. It now reads:
MOTION #3: This house proposes that the new consul makes peace with Carthage, with the option of taking Melite before they do so.
And one so carefree and lazy as Publius Laevinus should never be consul. He loads himself with fine clothes and his tables with precious plates; a lowly senator can seldom gain admittance.
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Gentlemen of the Senate, I must first apologise for my absence from our recent proceedings *cough*, my continued illness has now been diagnosed as “Irregular Connectivitus”. Unfortunately there is no permanent cure for this aliment and it is possible that I shall suffer from bouts of this illness throughout my life.
However, today I stand before you and obviously must add my consul to our most recent matters.
Consul Quintus has handed us the conquest of Sicily, it is true that it was not a course of action I held too but the die is cast and we must now look forward once again. Soon we will be voting for a new Consul. Quintus has previously given his intent not to stand for re-election and whilst we have not always seen “eye-to-eye” I am saddened by his choice for whilst the direction he took the Republic militarily was not completely to my agreement, we and I could not fault his skills in management or on the field of battle.
The Consul has advised us in his full report that the Praetorian army in Sicily is currently very under strength and I strongly believe that IF we wish to keep that which our Roman lives have paid for, we must strengthen that army as fast as is possible. The threat of invasion from Carthage is too strong to ignore and I urge use to consider that, instead of funding the raising of a forth Legion we should use a lower sum to supplement our army in Sicily. *cough*
We must address the issue of income as a priority also. Whilst my heart tells me that we should be making war on the Gauls and taking the rich regions to our North, my head tells me that we cannot hope to finance such an expedition at this time.
Currently Legate Tiberius Coruncanius and his Legio II are stationed on our Northern border and whilst I believe that the Legate’s Legion would be more than capable of taking the three settlements to the North, we cannot provide him with the raw manpower that would enable him to retain those settlements, nor do we have sufficient governors of experience to govern these unruly townships.
So, whilst I am a warrior at heart I must conclude that now we have settled the Greek issue in our lands, and provided ourselves with a buffer between us and Carthage in Sicily, our efforts in this next term must be concentrated in Trade and infostructure. The next Consul must ensure the three armies we have are strengthened and that our treasury swells.
Both these measures are to be done before we look North or even across the sea’s for further expansion. That does not preclude expansion within the next tenure for I am sure that such measures can be put in place in the early part of the next Consuls tenure of office.
I draw the Senates attention to the Island of Sardinia to the West. I understand that it has great potential for income being centrally placed. Unfortunately, I do not know if any of our neighbours lay claim to that island state.
I fear that further conflict with Carthage is unavoidable, but that we are not in a position fiscally or militarily to take pre-emptive action in this direction at this immediate point.
I believe that any of these further ventures will require us to raise a more substantial navy than we currently have and it is with these views that I will vote or offer further motions to table.
First we must raise the income of the Republic.
Then we must raise a navy capable of sustaining a campaign further from our homeland and able to protect that which we have already captured.
Only after these have been achieved can we consider further offensive action.
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[SENATE SPEAKER]: Honorable Senators, the scribes have pointed out the difficulty of allowing votes on more than 15 motions. Consequently, I ask you noble Senators to try to limit the number of motions accordingly.
To this end, I have consolidated several of Senator Sextius's motions, as some did seem to have a common theme.
COMPOSITE MOTION #3:
This house proposes that:
(a) the new consul makes peace with Carthage, with the option of taking Melite before they do so.
(b) no offensives or conquests be made in the next 5 years, the only exception being if we are attacked.
(c)This house proposes that the new consul focus on the economy and prosperity, rather than army.
COMPOSITE MOTION #5:
This house proposes that:
(a) Legio I move to a fort on the border between Gaul and Rome in Northern Italy, as Legio II currently is stationed.
(b) the Consular army at Agrigento be divided, half moving to a fort in southern Italia and half to a fort in central Sicilia.
(c) the Senate votes on the names the legions. (I.e. Legio I Victrix or Legio III Italia.)
I am also taking the liberty of ammending motion #4, as Syracuse - as a large city - is the capital of Sicily. Messana, unfortunately, is merely a large town and underdeveloped by contrast.
REVISED MOTION #4: This house proposes that Senator Quintus be appointed governor of the province of Sicily, with his provincal capital at Syracuse.
Further, on a point of information, Senators are reminded that we have three enumerated military formations (OOC: stacks with formation ancillaries):
(1) the First Consular Army at Agrigento - this has the strength of two legions and two alae
(2) Legio I - this has the strength of one legion and one alae, although it is currently divided between Paestum and Rhegium.
(3) Legion II - this has the strength of one legion and one alae, and is stationed in a fort north of Arretium on the border with Gaul
Full details of how the enumeration of these military formations occurs is set out in the notes by Marcus Camillus in the Senate library. So essentially, we have four field legions although two are consolidated into a Consular army.