Sigurd i understand that you dont trust me on this situation,but its your own choice, i could have hard time believing you also in same kind of situation, but thats the paranoia these games do to people.:juggle2:
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Sigurd i understand that you dont trust me on this situation,but its your own choice, i could have hard time believing you also in same kind of situation, but thats the paranoia these games do to people.:juggle2:
Aaah, i've had so many detective reveals to keep straight in this game and the other one (and still have GF2 on the brain) it's hard to keep straight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Moody
My apologies RTWGuru, but Sir Moody is right, you are unnaturally silent. My vote stands.
Of course we can not completely rule out the possibility that Kage is guilty (until the Mafia get an attempt (successful or thwarted) on his life. But as this game has progressed further, I have put almost complete trust in him.
At first, I was too skeptical, and only my suspicion of Prole led me to vote her over him. (it's just too odd to make up that Prole is the mafia...)
However, as the game has progressed, I see a couple convincing pieces of evidence to support Kage, foremost being that his demeanor is like a real detective (yes, I symphatize with his plight due to my situation in the other game; sue me). Also, the kills have gotten more similiar, and if Csar could confirm that the mafia(s) wrote them, that is another plus for Kage.
The only thing odd about Kage is that both his innocent investigations were killed this round. Still, I can't bring myself to imagine any of us Organians would kill those who were their most outspoken supporters the very next round (GH).
My top 3 suspect list is:
1) theRTWguru (since he's not screaming that he's a special role, I think he has a special role)
2) Seamus (wants to kill Kage)
3) Don C (same as Seamus)
Now, 2 and 3 may be just because of their chivalry, but 1 is definitely weird.
Vote: theRTWguru
I can explain Seamus's and my voting in one quick, easy to understand phase: we right-wingers stick together. ~:thumb:
Just kidding. I don't have it in for Kage. I found his reveal didn't convince me to a satisfactory level. Only two types of people reveal (the detective himself, duh) and the mafia. Okay, well, apparently Spartan has revealed to try to protect the detective :confused: (did that work, btw?) but you know what I mean....
I'm not saying I'm 100% convinced Kage is mafia or that he is definitely not the detective. I welcome additional evidence that would allow me to restore my faith in my fine Finnish friend.
Well, he revealed to flush out the mafia - which would, of course, if successful save the detective too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
However, sadly, it failed.
I think it either got him killed by an aggravated crowd, or murdered by an annoyed mafia...
Anyway, as for now, I'm willing to trust Kage. Let's hope he manages to flush one of them out (and provide adequate quotes in the process) and doesn't get killed in the process.
That sad, RTWGuru has been quite...silent this game. And that, coming from him, isn't a good sign. The same can be said of Silver, now I haven't been able to see when he was last on (invisibility mode and all) but he's usually one of the most active players - and I quite expected him to be that this time around too.
Not the case, however. We should keep that in mind.
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My mind is not made up about Kage. That does not mean I particularly want him dead, I've just been playing it safe. Still noodling this. Investigate if you wish, shan't bother me.
How many games has RTWGuru been in? Hmmmm...
I suppose that his attempt to pose as detective was rather amature, despite the fact that he has been in more then one game. Has he ever been mafia?
Even if he hasn't, he seems pretty new to this, plus he can be very annoying
Vote: RTWGuru
Already answered that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Guru was last on about five hours before Prole's execution was posted. JimBob was last on last night (EST night).
Get what you want out of this, but I think JimBob is more likely to be mafioso.
You're referring to the other thread, correct? I need to keep this all straight and it's already tough for old farts like myself to keep track.Quote:
Originally Posted by discovery1
Well, since I started with mafia games, RTWGuru claimed to be detective twice, first time was in GF2, where he really was, but the post got deleted because he was dead already and he wrote it like a post meant for another forum wrongfully posted here.
Second time was Mafia V where nothing is proven yet I think, except that he got killed and thus was innocent.
Here in this game, he claimed nothing.
So my vote stays.
Well, I don't think Guru is Mafia. But right now we have no leads and the votes seems to be between me and Guru. I like being a living innocent. Sorry, self preservation and all that.
Vote: RTWGuru
Voting closed.
Csar was finishing up tallying the votes. There were a lot of people who hadn’t voted and this was starting to agrivated him. “Do they not care about their beloved, peaceful town?” Csar asked himself. Well that would have to be dealt with later.
From the tally the townspeople had decided to execute RTWGuru. He was brought up to the platform screaming something about being a detective and handing Csar a piece of paper. “That is my letter from you that I am the detective.” Huh I don’t remember that. Csar looked at the paper, it was completely blank besides some doodles.
RTWGuru you are clearly delusional and have been sentenced to death by your peers. Csar pulled off a tarp covering a pretty large hole. There were a lot of noises coming from the hole. Clanking, blood curdling screams, etc. Csar pushed RTWGuru into the hole. The people in the hole really didn’t like this guy invading their hole. All that was heard after that were RTWGuru’s screams and then silence.
Csar looked in the hole, “Ugh that’s gruesome. Did you guys really have to mess him up that bad?” All that could be heard from the hole were cheers.
All right, everyone you may return to your homes. Hopefully the killings will stop.
Suddenly there was a voice from the sky. Hello is this thing on. Check 1 2 3.... Oh alright I've noticed that some of you haven't been voting lately. That angers me you don't wanna see me angry:mean: If you don't start voting you will be killed by me G O D.
Alright Mr. God thanks a lot for that I was just thinking about that earlier.
PM’s please
Seamus Fermanagh-
Husar-JB
Sir Moody-RTWGuru
TheRTWGuru-RTWGURU
Dutch_Guy-
Silver Rusher-
Reenk Roink-RTWGURU
Hepcat-
Warluster-
Peasant Phill-
Jimbob-RTWGURU
Kagemusha-
Discovery1-RTWGURU
Don Corleone-RTWGURU
Xiahou-JB
JB-2
RTWGuru-6
Oh right, I forgot about this game. Sorry. I promise to vote next round.
Csar, if people are late with their pm's then just post no kills and let us move to the next round.
Wise words master Sasaki.:2thumbsup:
JimBob and Seamus have been killed.
Note: Mafia members if you don't give me anything to work with then this is what you get. I may accidentally leak some secrets that will lead to your death. Let that be a warning to you.
Kagemusha gets eaten by children in the other thread.
Members of this town are blown up by explosive vests.
I've even seen people executed by laser-toting sharks.
I get a death notice that's less revealing than the one's in my local podunk paper.:shame:
Nothing says "lovin'" like a gore-bespattered mafia-game death...
Nobody loves me, everybody hates me, might as well go eat worms.
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For those considering the "lurker = mafia" theory:
Inactive (no vote/abstain) voters (4 possible votes):
Discovery1 no vote, no vote, no vote, Guru = 1
Dutch Guy no vote, no vote, Prole, no vote = 1
Hepcat abstain, no vote, no vote, no vote = 0
Kagemusha Prole, no vote, no vote, no vote = 1 (claims detective)
Silver Rusher no vote, no vote, no vote, no vote = 0
Warluster no vote, no vote, no vote, no vote = 0
Limited voters:
Peasant Phil no vote, Hanky, Prole, no vote = 2
Other Survivors include (#active votes of 4):
Don Corleone (3), Husar (3), Reenk (3), Moody (4), Xiahou (3).
Our honored dead (#active votes/votes possible), lynched:
Hankerchief (3/3), Ignoramus (0/0), JimBob (4/4), Kommodus (0/0), Masy (2/2), Proletariat (2/3), Sasaki (1/2), Seamus (3/4), Sigurd (2/3), Guru (1/4), Ultrawar (2/2).
Percentage of active votes among survivors: 43.75%
Percentage of active votes among murdered: 83.33%
-- Clearly the mafia are methodically wiping out the active voters, leaving the no-shows and lurkers for "dessert."
So what does this mean?
If you believe Kagemusha IS the detective:
Prole was guilty, one mafioso remains. Likely suspects:
Phil = semi-active but both votes very "safe" from controversy.
Xiahou = safe votes, voting for Jimbob just prior to his murder as a decoy
If you believe Kagemusha is NOT the detective:
Prole was innocent, and the mafia is intact. Aside from Kagemusha, suspects include:
Don C = active voter but moderate discussion in posts. Very active overall compared to the other thread despite being alive in both games.
Moody = active voter but very much with the herd. Voted for Reenk in round #1, but that was an obvious retal vote.
My vote = I'm boringly dead.
There's virtually no doubt in my mind that Kage is detective.
So according to Seamus, who is now clearly innocent as well, we should be looking at Phil. I'd like to hear the result of the latest investigations though. Also, Don was very reluctant to lynch Prole and seemed happy to push the RTWGuru bandwagon. The odds of both of them being randomly selected mafia seem near impossible, but he may bear watching nonetheless.
I think the total lack of kill descriptions may also point to a novice mafioso.
Well I don't know who to vote for, and I don't know who would be considered a novice mafia (apart from me of course). So I have no choice but to:
Vote: Abstain
I guess I am just not very good at this game, I simply can't come to any conclusions of my own.
Great theory Seamus, very interesting.
True I have to justify myself, which is always very hard. The reason why I didn't always vote is simple: If I'm unsure (meaning I don't have a clue) I'll wait until the discussions brings up a suspect. But if real life gets in the way (which it does regularly) I don't get to voting anymore.
I know it's a explenation as good or bad as any but I have a proposition for those who suspect me: Let the detective investigate me (and thus let me live one more round) he'll porve without a doubt that I'm innocent.
vote Xiahou
Well i dont have an suspect for you this round either. I investigated Seamus and he was innocent. Vote Csar.First i will get a Mafioso and then only dead people?
As I said before, phil is posting more than ever before. This means he has a role-mafioso.
Hmm, Silver is back I'd say. Since he posted just after he was murdered in the other mafia. Now, even though he's still alive here he hasn't been posting. At all. Not quite his usual style, and something that actually raises my suspicion of him. That's why I'm voting for him this round, if he however reacts in an appropriate way (in my opinion that is) then I'd gladly unvote. A reaction is appreciated, SilverQuote:
Silver Rusher no vote, no vote, no vote, no vote = 0
Vote:Silver
EDIT:but then again, Sasaki, did Phil ever make it this far in a game ?
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Yes he has. It's only day 3 isn't it?
Also, Silver hasn't been online in 2 days.
Yeah, I hate these people (Sasaki and those he corrupts) that simply pick a name and go at him that round. JimBob was the poor soul last time, and he's been wasted (and innocent), and I see no real case for Phil yet.
Gonna hold off voting until more clues come up. No vote as of yet.
I thought you didn't hold grudges over games ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
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Funny, I actually thought I was doing a better job keeping up in this game than the other one. Guess I'm over compensating in Hanky's game. Sorry if I haven't been contributing that much.
To answer a couple of questions about me:
-I defended Prole so vehemently because I didn't believe Kage. He's been acting a LOT like Sigurd from GF2... making wild claims with no hint at backing them up, then disappearing for a day or two. Sigurd was actually innocent, and I suppose Kage is too, but I still think that was a sucky lynch. Prole got that smoke, because Kage wanted her to, and because we're all sheep. There's no other reason.
-I went after RTWGuru because he's exhbiited such a dramatic behavior shift in this game. Call it bandwagoning if you will, but sometimes the evidence others present really does stand up to examination.
Now, I really don't believe Kage was the detective. I suspect he 'thinks' he knows what's going on, maybe even has a Kommodus-like system that he wants to keep secret. But where have been his next investegations?
So, why are there so many inactive posters in this game? I suspect the mafia is lurking among them, because they don't know what to make of Kagemusha's claim, and they don't want to draw any attention to themselves. The REAL detective would have to be a moron not to have investegated Silver yet. Some have subtly pointed to him, but no strong arguments, so I'm guessing he came back innocent.
Among the other inactives, Disco being so out of it is frankly, shocking, especially considering he's not alive in the other game.
Vote: Disco
Nothing personal Disco... explain yourself and prove me wrong. Maybe you've gotten an attack of real life. I'm all ears.