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Its a good thing I wasn't alive during the 1500's.
Though to go even earlier St Augustine does a nice little bit of spiel on the problems some people seem to find with scripture and science .
It is his words that I base my all too often repeated ......this brand of cretinism is the realm of those who lack faith , and have little knowledge of either scripture or science .
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If you want another contradiction in the bible, which happens to be directly relevant to the discussion and you don't have to read very far through the bible to find it, look at the two creation stories. Genesis 1 says God created things in this order:
plants -> fish and other water creatures and birds -> animals -> men and women
Genesis one says the order of creation was:
man -> plants -> animals and birds -> woman
Which one is correct? (My view neither is literally true. Both contain important truths.)
Nor do I. I just wanted to say something different. Most of this thread (including what I have written above) is a re-hash of old arguments.Quote:
Originally Posted by AntiochusIII
Of course even on this threat there might be some examples (like the post directly above this one). True. Science does beat religion in the same way the my washing machine is much better at cleaning clothes than my car.
You are probably right about BG. I have certainly never seen a proper scientific challenge to the theory of evolution. The problem is that if we start to believe there can't ever be one, evolution itself moves from being a scientific theory to being an article of scientific faith. That would not be consistent with the way science is meant to be done.Quote:
Moreover, I personally interpret Banquo's "real scientist" quip to mean not conformist thinking, but an ability to properly questions and challenges the existing dominant theory. Considering most of these creationists who keep complaining of holes in the evolutionary theory cannot even provide a good summary of what it entails, or explains about the actual holes, I'd consider their criticism to be not particularly engaging to the scientific community.
I ahve not logged in since yesterday afternoon since I went to the cinema to see "Babel" with Mrs. Clegane.
Now what do I see here? A discussion that over the last 2 pages or so could also run under this title (at laest for a major part).
We had a lot of discussions about evolution vs. creation already and at this point I do not see that this thread adds a fresh and new perspective to the debate.
Adding to that, presenting personal views/opinions as undisputable fact and attacking other religions (which has nothing to do with the topic, BTW) is not really a sign of good debating/discussion culture.
This thread has passed its date of expiry.
My thanks (and my apologies for closing the thread) go to those who tried to have a good and civilised discussion here :bow:
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