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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by Ichigo
Really? So I'm supposed to have a clear suspect the first round? Rather illogical reason for voting me.
No logic in the first two rounds - pure dumb a** guess work. It seems to have struck a sour note with you however. I wonder why? Care to explain futher?
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
hmm Unvote, Vote:Reenk Roink
Constantly voting one player is too good a cover.
Good man.
I too shall Vote: Reenk although not for the same reasons.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by Redleg
No logic in the first two rounds - pure dumb a** guess work. It seems to have struck a sour note with you however. I wonder why? Care to explain futher?
That's not true at all. No, not at all I just find your reason for voting me rather bad.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
Vote:Redleg
For his vote on Sasaki in the first round, and his rather weak attack on me he just doesn't seem to be acting normal.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
Vote: Abstain
I just haven't got time to keep up with this one.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by Ichigo
Vote:Redleg
For his vote on Sasaki in the first round, and his rather weak attack on me he just doesn't seem to be acting normal.
What attack? It seems your reaching for a conclusion not in evidence.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Unless you count Pever who was acting strangely when I voted him.
I allways act weirdly.
Still keeping my vote on abstain after a read through.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by Ichigo
Ichigo's Day 1 vote history:
- Sasaki - no reason given
- ChuggtheSquirrel - no reason given
- pevergreen - reason given was "On second thought Pever is a better candidate."
- Hughtower - no reason given at time of vote
Ichigo's Day 1 (self admitted) bandwagon history:
- pevergreen
- Hughtower
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Originally Posted by Ichigo
Now it seems like your just trying to attack me for your mistake.:no: Your last point proves mine I wouldn't be so foolish as to make such a obvious error
So, I can make a mistake, yet you ask us to assume that you are not foolish enough to make one yourself.:no:
It is common practice to give an explanation at time of voting for reasons as you know well enough. I asked you why. You still haven't answered that. In what way(s) are you helping the town?
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
Yet to vote, at the moment I am trying to get all of this straight in my mind. I will post back later when I have more time. Hope I make it back before the deadline (pun intended).
Vote: Abstain
EDIT: Also can dead people speak?
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by pevergreen
I allways act weirdly.
Still keeping my vote on abstain after a read through.
Tis very true :laugh4:
As i have no idea whats going on
Vote:Abstain
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by Rythmic
EDIT: Also can dead people speak?
Yes they can. I think being dead doesn't change anything concerning participation on the game. You can still try to achieve your victory conditions when dead, but you cannot vote (townie), kill (mafia) or investigate (detective) anymore. The detective has one restriction: when dead he cannot reveal his investigations results and/or his identity.
It might be a good idea for the detective to pm his role and his investigation results to some of the participants that got murdered by the mafia. They are 100 % sure innocent and can be trusted when they post the information in the thread.
The dead can still play an important role in the game imo.
:bow:
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
Why was Ichigo's vote hopping scummy?
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Why was Ichigo's vote hopping scummy?
Because it's designed to lynch without adding or generating any debate. There were no accusations attached to them.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by HughTower
Because it's designed to lynch without adding or generating any debate. There were no accusations attached to them.
It's too attention getting to be scum
It doesn't make sense as a day one plan--will be townie lynch almost certainly
Doesn't fit with Ichigo's behavior as scum
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
It's too attention getting to be scum
WIFOM. Ichigo always seems to act in a way that attracts attention. As do you.
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
It doesn't make sense as a day one plan--will be townie lynch almost certainly
Why is he doing it? It's not helpful. If he's not scum, then he's a bad townie.
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Doesn't fit with Ichigo's behavior as scum
Maybe not. But MO's change for a number of reasons - through a course of conscious & deliberate actions, or unrelated external reasons.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
Unvote: I believe it was Sasaki
Vote: Hughtower
1. Csar/Ichigo always goes after Sasaki in the opening post of the game.
2. Why can't you change votes?
3. The first lynch always is a townie lynch ... unless the mafia is some complete idiot, giving him away on the first day.
4. I said what Sasaki said, I just realise.
5. Bandwagoning isn't as bad as most people say, imo it's only bad when it's a draw and I come in, without being active, without posting my reasons to vote one out. Besides you can't bandwagon on day 1 imo.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by Stig
Unvote: I believe it was Sasaki
Vote: Hughtower
But, we lynched HughTower on day 1... :inquisitive:
You hate him so that you want to see him lynched twice? Do you want GH to dig up his corps to see it hang again? How rude!
:laugh4:
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning
But, we lynched HughTower on day 1... :inquisitive:
You hate him so that you want to see him lynched twice? Do you want GH to dig up his corps to see it hang again? How rude!
:laugh4:
Damned, in that case let him stop disturbing the discussion.
Vote: Abstain
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning
It might be a good idea for the detective to pm his role and his investigation results to some of the participants that got murdered by the mafia. They are 100 % sure innocent and can be trusted when they post the information in the thread.
That would be illegal according to the rules listed in the original post.
unvote: Destroyer of Hope
Vote: Ichigo
He seems like he's protecting a role.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning
Yes they can. I think being dead doesn't change anything concerning participation on the game. You can still try to achieve your victory conditions when dead, but you cannot vote (townie), kill (mafia) or investigate (detective) anymore. The detective has one restriction: when dead he cannot reveal his investigations results and/or his identity.
It might be a good idea for the detective to pm his role and his investigation results to some of the participants that got murdered by the mafia. They are 100 % sure innocent and can be trusted when they post the information in the thread.
The detective cannot reveal himself privately. He must reveal his identify and his results in the thread itself. It's one of the themes of GH's games, whether the detective should reveal the list of innocents now and guarantee his death the following round, or later and risk being killed before he can let the town know who's innocent.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by Pannonian
The detective cannot reveal himself privately. He must reveal his identify and his results in the thread itself. It's one of the themes of GH's games, whether the detective should reveal the list of innocents now and guarantee his death the following round, or later and risk being killed before he can let the town know who's innocent.
:oops: I thought he could reveal privately. My bad.
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Originally Posted by Stig
5. imo it's only bad when it's a draw and I come in, without being active, without posting my reasons to vote one out. Besides you can't bandwagon on day 1 imo.
Hmmm you have a good point there. On the other hand, it can be a good disguise: by jumping on it, you show that you participate and you hide yourself in the crowd. Since alot of people vote for that same people, you can easily defend yourself: "why do you pick me for jumping on it and not all the others?" At the time Ichigo popped up and voted without any reason, HughTower was most likely to get hanged, since he already got 4 votes at that time. But it still seems odd that he voted without giving any reason whatsoever. Why? To make sure HughTower got hanged, because he was too lazy to give his reasons, because he thought it was crystal clear and needed no furhter explanation...?
But pevergreens third vote against Sasaki at the very beginning of the game however still looks more suspicious to me. It was a vote that almost made a bandwagon rolling. The start of a bandwagon at the very beginning of the game without any clues whatsoever against a useful player who starts discussion... :inquisitive:
I would like to hear a good and meaningful explanation from pevergreen.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
Unvote,Vote:Xiahou
bandwagon+poor reason.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by HughTower
WIFOM. Ichigo always seems to act in a way that attracts attention. As do you.
Exactly why it isn't an indicator of guilt.
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Why is he doing it? It's not helpful. If he's not scum, then he's a bad townie.
We don't want to lynch bad townies.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
We don't want to lynch bad townies.
Agreed. Though in-thread abuse of them should be voluminous.:smartass:
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by Stig
Unvote: I believe it was Sasaki
Vote: Hughtower
and
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Originally Posted by Stig
Damned, in that case let him stop disturbing the discussion.
Vote: Abstain
I like your signature, Stig. At whom was it initially directed? :beam:
But seriously now, :book:, two queries:
Why should I stop this discussion?
That's not a challenge, just a simple question.
Do you not think townies (like Ichigo) should help the town?
I argued earlier (and answered all of Sasaki/your points) he was not being helpful.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
Vote: Warluster.
Note, this is a pressure vote. We have not got an active vote from him and few posts -- despite his having been active in Siggy's game during this same time frame. Let's hear from you, pal.
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Why should I stop this discussion?
You dont have to stop.At least you know something.
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Do you not think townies (like Ichigo) should help the town?
Why the attack against Ichigo?
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
Again, please indicate who you are unvoting.
*looks in Sasaki's direction*
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Re: Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Unvote,Vote:Xiahou
bandwagon+poor reason.
Barely a wagon, just 1 other vote & my shouting. Besides, Ichigo wagonned twice & offered no reason 4 times. What's the difference?
Re: lynching 'bad townies'
Seamus/Sasaki - why shouldn't we, if they hinder the town? Rather a bad townie than a good one, surely?
And finally,
Caius - see the links in my signature for my reasoning (if you can bothered :laugh4:).