As long as everyone else gets to eat turkeys, I will as well.
Turkeys are fat and delicious.
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As long as everyone else gets to eat turkeys, I will as well.
Turkeys are fat and delicious.
Your gambit schema is not of successful. I is not of falling for it. Where is turkey?
I am returned. The writeups will be up within the hour, ideally. Thank you for your patience with the delay.
GeneralHankerchief was spending the evening achieving his weekly exercise, hoping to energize himself following the last few days of relative inertness on his part. So here he found himself at the spiral stairwell, ascending up to the third floor at breakneck pace. He would descend at his leisure to recuperate before repeating the task several more times. His first run went quite well, leaving him in good condition still. However, upon reaching the top of the staircase the second time, he discovered his routine would be interrupted. Five individuals stood there, waiting for him.
"Aha! We have discovered you at last!" The lead individual declared. "Look at you, performing this... dastardly activity, in all your brazen dastardliness! In the name of Firnaz, we sentence you to rightful retribution!"
"Wait, what do you mean, in the name of Firnaz?" The individual to his left queried as they swung to face their compatriot. "This is in the name of justice and goodness, not some festering death god!"
The first individual gasped. "You take that back, sinner! Why, why, THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! How did I end up working with some pond scum like you?!"
"Why, that is a good question, how did I end up having to even be near such a fool as one who would worship Firnaz?"
"Hmph!"
"Hmph!"
Before GeneralHankerchief knew it, the group before hid dissipated in a cloud of discontent and annoyance, leaving him to finish his exercise in peace.
Meanwhile, Montmorency was content to spend another evening in quiet meditation. There were four individuals outside his room at the moment, having shown up half an hour ago, claiming they would secure his liveliness for the night. He was thankful they allowed him the privacy of his room, while still attending to his safety. It was good to know there were still some who would fight for safety in this chaotic world they were in now. Unfortunately, his concentration was broken when he heard a scuffle and voices outside his door.
"Halt, sir Montmorency is not to be disturbed tonight," one of the guards proclaimed.
"That's no concern of yours, I think," a second voice came out. "It would be wise of you to leave us be. I have a score to settle here."
"I am afraid I cannot all-" the voice was cut off as Montmorency heard a loud thumping noise followed by yelling. The shouting reached a pitch before a gust rattled the door, followed by a few more thumps. Montmorency panicked for a moment, knowing he must find a place to shelter himself for the moment. He clambered up from his pose and scanned the room, settling for a small clothes cabinet. He scrambled inside as fast as he could, and drew the doors shut, sheltering himself in darkness. He heard the door creak open, and a man's voice called out to him.
"Come on out, Montmorency... I know you're in here..." the voice seemed to snake through the air. "I know who you are, what you are, sniveling coward... After generations of failing to find you, of thinking you were dead and gone, now the universe delivers you to me as an act of providence." There was no sound of shuffling feet, yet Montmorency was sure the intruder was not yet gone.
"Ah ha, here we are at last," the voice sauntered, now very close by. A thunderous crack exploded from just above Montmorency's head as the cabinet was shredded by a shining, curved blade. A man with flowing white hair brought the blade down upon Montmorency, who scrambled out of the way just in time to avoid it, the cabinet being completely destroyed in his stead as a blast of air flung shards of wood in every direction. He attempted to scramble towards the door, but a powerful wind knocked him into the nearby wall of marble, sucking the air from his lungs. The white-haired man levitated forward, his eyes ablaze with silver.
"Look at you, being protected by mortals. And you would cower beneath them. Even with all this knowledge and power, you are weak, just like you always have been. You don't deserve to exist in this world, in MY WORLD! The mortals will perish soon.... Now join them! PREPARE TO DIE!" The white-haired main brought his blade down in a slashing arc, slicing into Montmorency with a powerful, crushing strike that severed him from shoulder to hip. "And soon, the rest of this despicable palace will join you, coward."
"It seems we do, indeed, still have work to do," Kavehir mournfully informed the gathering in the morning. "We still have murders abound in the palace, protesting our noble endeavor. I am... sorry. I know we have lost many innocent to this. But we must march forward. Justice must be delivered. Even were I to cancel our efforts now, it would not end the suffering and injustice that would continue to be inflicted upon us. So, friends... let us end this all. Let us finally deliver justice."
Alive:
Autolycus
El Barto
GeneralHankerchief
Golden1Knight
Ituralde
Johnhughtom
Landlubber
Nightbringer
Sooh
Zack
Lynched:
Abstain (D1)
Andres (D2)
ACIN (D3)
Dcmort(D4)
Edse(D5)
Myrddraal(D6)
Killed:
Csargo (D1)
Bsmith (N2)
Ironside (N3)
Kagemusha(N4)
Visorslash (N5)
Askthepizzaguy(N6)
Montmorency(N7)
Attacked:
Ironside (N1)
Golden1Knight (N2)
Montmorency(N3)
Ituralde(N4)
GeneralHankerchief(N7)
Everything you need is in my posts.
Right. There were five of us, just like Monty said there should have been.
vote:El Barto.
Will analyze after I sober up. See you all tomorrow.
In the meantime, could people involved in the hit on me come forward?
Also also, all protectors of monty are (theoretically) accounted for. The reason it failed as per feedback PM was the same reason why it failed on Visor - the protection was somehow nullified once again.
So a hit of five people on GH failed because (presumably) they couldn't agree on which god they believed in?
And a protect group of four failed because ???
Assuming that everyone alive last night was involved in some kind of action that leaves us with two unaccounted for, right? Does that mean there's still two mafia out there, or were there just people who didn't manage to get in a NA?
failed because not enough of the people involved believed in the same godQuote:
Originally Posted by Zack
Everyone sent in orders and cc'd everyone else. So one person is missing.
Received a week ago:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
There was someone missing, but Monty seems to have accounted for that person. The writeup mentions 5 people, just like Monty wanted it to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
1. Only one attacker from what I can tell, ergo not Nightbringer (and by extension El Barto, though he only notes Nightbringer here for whatever reason). So why is lubber voting Barto?Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
2. I don't understand why Monty expected there to only be five attackers on GH. Six people sent in orders, and out of his provided list of possible scum, only Nightbringer was involved in the attack.
3. Scan implicates sooh, message I quoted in #573 implicates GH.
Vote: sooh
I realize that, but I don't know why and he didn't publicly reveal that there were actually six people sending in orders, so I'm letting people know.Quote:
Originally Posted by landlubber
The Monty kill is weird to me. There were people feuding with him and calling for his head, and killing him only lends credence to his scans. It makes no sense for sooh to kill Monty, except in a wifom-y move.
A Monty kill suggests:
a) sooh is not mafia - in which case monty's scan is misleading and why kill him
b) sooh is mafia and has a partner she is afraid of being scanned
c) sooh is the lone remaining mafia and did not really think the kill through :laugh4:
And before anyone counters that it gives the scan credibility and results in a mislynch, leaving a false scanner alive results in mislynches, plural. So if sooh is not mafia, a Monty kill is shortsighted. I find a kill motivated by either fear (of monty scanning the other partner) or revenge more likely. In any case I think sooh is the right lynch here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
Yes, it does seem the intent is to implicate me. Either that or the kill yesterDay nullified the usefulness of Monty for the mafia. Perhaps they can't trick his scans anymore?
Vote: GH
He was another who knew who Monty was going to scan at night from what I've been able to find out. It doesn't fully make sense to me, but it's a lead perhaps?
Oh wait are there third parties. shit
Clearly someone was afraid of future scans
If there is a third party, would they have hidden within the various religious groups? It might be a good way to hide themselves, however if they can't perform actions with them because they don't really belong to the religion it could account for so many actions failing or being nullified.
This is the second time a supposed power role could not be protected. I think there's two possibilites for this:
1.: This is just a feature of power roles in this game of Mafia.
2.: The Mafia have an ability to negate protections, which they can use every second night.
This would explain why the Mafia waited with their attack on Montmorency one additional night.
I don't really know what to make of Montmorencys stipulations prior to his death. Was this meant to show us, whom he scanned after Sooh?
Either way Sooh and GH both appear on his list. I'm still acting according to my previous post on the matter. Following my cases 1 and 2.
That means Sooh and GH both have to die. Starting from the top:
Vote: Sooh
Random thoughts/observations, not really listed in any particular order:
1. Monty PM'd me last night, requesting protection. After some serious internal doubts (mostly based off my displeasure of how the last day phase went down), I decided to abide by his request, though I didn't tell him.
2. Both Ituralde and Sooh PM'd me separately last night, wondering about a night action.
3. I was initially planning on grouping up with just Ituralde and autolycus and protecting somebody random.
4. The ultimate group ended up being myself, Ituralde, autolycus, and Sooh, protecting Monty (we basically just drafted autolycus in, but he did CC orders). All four of us are theoretically accounted for in the writeup.
5. 11 people alive as of last night (10 now). Five people were attacking me. Four were protecting Monty. There was Monty's attacker. Presumably, Monty was off scanning rather than attacking me (though could someone who attacked me please confirm that?). That's eleven.
6. Operating under the ASSUMPTION that the general principles of townie actions in these games holds and no individual can attack and/or protect more than one target at night, we need to find our missing attacker.
7. Please note that the assumption listed under 6 is just that, an assumption, and it's convenient for us at best but is by no means guaranteed to actually hold.
8. If the assumption under 6 does hold, then we simply need to find our missing link. In this case, the Shahnak Four of myself, Ituralde, autolycus, and Sooh are accounted for. I don't know the exact makeup of the group that attacked me, and if Monty's scenarios under his "gambit schema contingency broadcast" are correct, the evidence points most clearly to El Barto.
9. In case I haven't made this clear yet, I would really like to know the names of everybody in the group that attacked me.
10. I really don't think it's that simple.
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Now we're starting to venture more into the realm of conjecture.
11. Let's assume that El Barto was the person Monty left out in his group of five. Who was the sixth person that Zack referred to?
12. Putting that line of discussion out of mind for the time being (though by no means should we forget about it entirely), my pet theory is that Barto simply didn't do anything at night, much as he claims he has done all game.
13. Please keep in mind that point 12 will be most likely rendered invalid by clarification from Zack/someone else. MOVING ON THOUGH.
14. I don't think it's that cut-and-dried. khaan didn't quite reach his stated goal of 25 players, which meant he would probably have to do some rebalancing, but this is the same person who singlehandedly wrecked the .Org's metagame in 2008 in Netherworld 1 by including a third party role that completely fooled the town and ensured that third party roles would never be trusted on this forum again. He's included these types of roles in pretty much every single non-vanilla game he's ever hosted. There's going to be a third party role here.
15. It might have been Kage. He could have withheld some of his more sinister abilities when revealing to Myrd and Pizza(?) among others. Let's assume otherwise though.
16. I believe that the chances are high that the third party role - if it's still alive - and our last mafioso are working together in some capacity, though whether it's a formal alliance or a temporary partnership remains to be seen.
17. The town still has a weapon of sorts: There are still four active Shahnaks. If we all stay alive, we could vig someone at night. Potentially clear out the Nightbringer/El Barto kerfluffle by lynching one today and killing the other at night.
18. Screw that.
19. We have a guilty result on Sooh. We don't know if it's spoofed or not.
20. Everything Zack has posted since the phase ended, especially in regards to motives for killing Monty, makes sense.
21. Once again, there were enough people protecting the victim to theoretically make him safe at night.
22. Once again, as per the Visor kill, the reason the protection failed is because the protection got nullified in some fashion.
23. Evidence is mounting that this is not a passive trait. This is far more likely to be a weapon in the hands of one scum or another.
24. Sooh, once again, appears to be unaware of why the target she was supposed to be protecting is still dead:
25. It was made abundantly clear in the feedback PM I received why Monty is dead. It was the exact same reason why Visor died.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sooh
26. The logical conclusion is that Sooh was off doing something nefarious that superseded her supposed protection of Monty. Maybe she can possess somebody to show up but not have them be effective (khaan's had those roles before). Maybe she was there but it wasn't her primary action and thus it doesn't count.
27. Combine the above with Sooh's guilty scan, plus everything that Zack and Monty mentioned, and I think we have our scum, or at least, somebody who definitely needs to be dead.
Vote: Sooh
Further food for thought that I'm not going to overanalyze just yet:
Csargo voted for El Barto long after he died:
This was the round edse was eventually lynched. It also counted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
Official pre-tiebreak tally from that round:Quote:
Originally Posted by seireikhaan
Csargo's reaction:Quote:
El Barto 3(GoldenKnight, landlubber, Csargo)
Could spin this either way. Mafia looking to save edse (lending credence to a dcmort/edse/Sooh scumteam). Mafia looking to save Barto (lending credence to a dcmort/Barto/Nightbringer? team), possibly by use of reverse psychology. Someone protown. Third party looking to set up a cult or something. A troll, maybe. Not dealing with it right now, but good to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
Alright. It seems like I will be the lynch today. Basically I've ended up in a position that needs to be resolved. Even if you can see no other conceivable lynch today I would still like for you to consider who is next in line for tomorrow.
I am not privy to most of the information Monty may have left behind unless it has all been posted in this thread. I hope some of you can clarify: Why are Nightbringer and El Barto linked together when the other suspects Monty had are not? Why are these people specifically his suspects? Do you know why the rest of the list are clear? Obviously you all know your own role, but Myrdraal, whose scans were less than perfect, still doesn't mention any of them in his post. Was it because they weren't part of some network that could have manipulated or blocked him or what was it?
From thread actions alone I have found it extremely hard to find likely suspects, and similarly to clear other people. My vote is on GH, because he has been eager about my lynch for a while, possibly because he set it up for it to happen. I originally suspected Myrdraal of being the source of Monty's misinformation, but GH also had information from the inner circles as far as I know.
For the sake of openness, I do not know the answer to any of these questions, though I would certainly appreciate clarification as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sooh
This is confusing. To my knowledge, Myrddraal was a regular, Shahnak-worshipping townie. Unless you mean Monty?Quote:
Obviously you all know your own role, but Myrdraal, whose scans were less than perfect, still doesn't mention any of them in his post.
GIGANTIC scumtell here.Quote:
From thread actions alone I have found it extremely hard to find likely suspects, and similarly to clear other people.
Let's put this out in the open. My "loop" consisted of various one-on-one conversations with Myrddraal, Pizza, and Monty. I had a brief conversation with Myrddraal early on when I gained his trust via my volunteering to be attacked in the Shahnak group. This reignited a couple of phases before his death when the game was heating up. Pizza and I started chatting the day that dcmort was eventually lynched. I was going hard after someone else (possibly Sooh) and he let me know about the guilty result on dcmort. Monty claimed scanner to me in private the round edse was lynched when, at the time, I was gunning hard for him.Quote:
I originally suspected Myrdraal of being the source of Monty's misinformation, but GH also had information from the inner circles as far as I know.
If you'll notice, all three of them are dead. Monty and Myrd turned on each other, and Pizza got nightkilled. I don't have any "loop" anymore. I was also left out of Monty's GAMBIT OPERATION ALPHA SIGMA THETA or whatever aside from him rather flippantly PMing me to ensure that he'd have protection at night. Everything I know about his latest plan comes from information gleaned in the thread and I would still love to know who all was part of it and to what extent.
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Finally, Sooh, you're avoiding the issue here. I'm not going after you because of a scan, although that certainly helps. I'm going after you because twice now, your initial reaction to the nightkills does not match up with the feedback PMs, from the host, that you should have received. At all.
Ituralde knew why the protections on Visor and Monty failed. Myrddraal knew. You didn't.
Vote: Sooh.
GH, I already provided the list of names: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053672700 it was my first post this phase
I guess we can assume Monty was the one who didn't participate in the attack, but then I don't get why he went to the trouble of including himself in the first place.
Ah, must've glossed over that one when looking at your PM exchange with Monty.
Best option I can think is that Monty "included" himself so as to deter people from bailing out - i.e. the attempt was going through regardless.
There's also the possibility that Monty actually *was* present for the attack and one of the other five skipped out to kill him in the other part of the writeup. Seems too rudimentary though, and I think Monty would've rather had another scan in.
Still uncertain as to why he singled out Nightbringer and Barto.
I think Nightbringer, me, and Barto were the only ones unaccounted for on the night everyone protected Visor. For whatever reason Monty did not suspect me out of those three.
Nothing to add but Vote:Sooh
Quote:
Originally Posted by landlubber
COMBAT OPERANDI: REFERENCESee post #558. Anyone who knows his Hussie will understand me.
Yes, but given that I did not participate in any actions whatsoever (the people in those groups can confirm it), then your numbers do not add up. 11 people: you and Monty plus five attacking you and four guarding him… plus me, 12.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
COMBAT OPERANDI: ELECTIONSVote: Sooh
Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden1Knight
Incidentally, what have these two voting lurkers been up to?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnhughthom
OOC: I had to fix some broken tags in the post above so vote:Sooh.
Writeup in progress.
For the first time in a while, the inquisition's efforts were singularly driven, focused, and solemn. As soon as it was reconvened, attention was shone upon Sooh, with several people claiming documents from the deceased Montmorency proved that Sooh wass, in fact, the guilty party attempting to destroy the royal family. Sooh, naturally, protested, but a stream of accusations continued forth. When the sun was finally ready to set, Sooh was presented to Emperor Kavehir.
"This is ludicrous," Sooh protested as the gathering circled around.
"Yes, yes, we get it," Kavehir spoke down to Sooh. "You think this pronouncement of your guilt absurd. Yet, all gathered seem to believe the evidence. So," he continued, drawing his longsword. "It is time-"
"No, not that," Sooh sneered. "After all, that would not be inaccurate," Sooh casually said. "What is absurd is that this pathetic mortal thinks to strike me down!" Sooh's eyes blazed a shimmering silver, and a blast of wind emanated, knocking down those gathered around. With ease, Sooh leaped to the stage where Kavehir hosted executions, a long, curved blade drawn.
"You blaspheming mortal, you and your family have called down upon yourselves the wrath of the heavens!" Sooh proclaimed in a booming voice. "The end of days is upon you. The age of Shahnak is dawned! The other gods were too weak-willed, but I will restore order. Now die!" Sooh lunged forward with a strike against the Emperor, sinking the edge into his shoulder. The Emperor glared back at Sooh, grasped the blade in his shoulder with his right hand, and yanked it out. A golden glow began to swirl around Kavehir.
"You think me and my family just mere mortals?" He asked, eyes glaring dangerously at Sooh. "I am Kavehir, son of Ensehir, descendant of Baharash, He Who Creates. I am no mortal, but a demi-god! This is my rightful place, as ruler of this world, and none will take it from me!" He flung Sooh's blade to the side and advanced slowly, sending a panicking Sooh walking backwards. In a flash, he was in front of Sooh, and in an instant, impaled Sooh with his blade, straight into the chest. The golden glow from Kavehir wrapped around them both, glowing brighter until none could see the two up upon the stage.
When it dissipated, Emperor Kavehir was alone, Sooh unable to be seen anywhere. He looked down upon the Inquisition with a bashful smile and scratched the back of his head. "Well, I suppose that little secret is out. We'd been rather hoping to not anger the gods with that announcement, but it seems we're well beyond that, I suppose, aren't we?" The nobles chuckled a bit at the Emperor's attitude about the whole deal. "Still, I know many of you here worshipped Shahnak.... Can I count on your support, even still?"
"Yes, my lord!" A chorus rang back to him uniformly.
"Excellent, excellent! Well, I am very confident now that we are nearly in the clear! Let us rest tonight, and be ready for victory tomorrow! Well done, inquisition!"
Sooh 5 (Zack, Ituralde, GH, GoldenKnight, El Barto)
GH 1 (Sooh)
El Barto 1 (Landlubber)
Alive:
Autolycus
El Barto
GeneralHankerchief
Golden1Knight
Ituralde
Johnhughtom
Landlubber
Nightbringer
Zack
Lynched:
Abstain (D1)
Andres (D2)
ACIN (D3)
Dcmort(D4)
Edse(D5)
Myrddraal(D6)
Sooh (D7)
Killed:
Csargo (D1)
Bsmith (N2)
Ironside (N3)
Kagemusha(N4)
Visorslash (N5)
Askthepizzaguy(N6)
Montmorency(N7)
Attacked:
Ironside (N1)
Golden1Knight (N2)
Montmorency(N3)
Ituralde(N4)
GeneralHankerchief(N7)
Did Monty say who he planned to scan?
I have a really bad feeling about this.
-edit- Not to me.
Okay, senseless panic is over, rationality is kicking in. I don't think khaan would have tipped his hand regarding Sooh's identity and Kavehir's powers like this if the game was still to be ongoing, or at the very least not entering a new phase (and I don't mean night/day). Think we're done after tonight, for better or for worse.
New pet theory: Kage was the neutral-to-evil third party role and had us all fooled. Mafia killing him was a stroke of luck for the town. From what we know of the roles (the only other revealed power role being a likely town-aligned Monty) it makes sense from a balance perspective.
Or, alternatively, Kage was good, the evil third party role is still out there, and we're all about to die.
Head says first scenario, gut says second. For once I'm leaning to my head.
Monty also directly implicated you, so I'm trying not to roll my eyes at your performance here.
posting this PM exchange again, emphasis mine
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
In other words, Monty seemed to think his death proved GH was scum.
Give me a couple of hours and I'll address this.
All hail to Shahnank the Sky God!
Um, I mean all hail to Emperor Kavehir, of course! I repent, I repent....
This has definetly taken an interesting turn. I don't read the statement from Montmorency to implicate GH as being scum, in fact I can't really make sense of it, but GH was always my backup lynch option, so I see no reason not to go throuth with it during the next day phase. If there is one at that!
So we vote for GeneralHankerchief next phase, amirite?
Can't be a scum victory.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
3 possible scum alive means that 3:6 is the ratio, 3:5 after the next day so even in the worst case scenario we still dont lose after tonight.
Why are you talking about a scenario in which all 3 Mafia are still alive? That's not even on the table.
At any rate, 3 scum:5 vanilla town is so lopsided that its mirror image is like 3 scum:50 vanilla town.
I'm talking worst case scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Okay, so the Monty thing. First of all, this is what he posted when making his plan public:
I recognize that this can be read a couple of different ways and that a PM instruction probably takes precedence over something posted in the public thread, but because it's exasperating to defend myself against something that's not my behavior or my actions, we're rolling with it. Nothing surrounding the attempt on my life appears to be interesting or out of the ordinary. I'm doing my thing, five people show up, they start arguing about their gods, I stay alive. Pretty much what everyone thought was going to happen. Monty's death was a separate action that was completely unrelated to the attempt on my life. My guess is that Sooh was making use of her secondary ability as mafia, as outlined in khaan's OP:Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Secondly, and I think I made this point in one of Barto's games over the summer, just because Monty's dead doesn't necessarily make him right. He thought Sooh's scan was spoofed. Evidence is pretty strongly pointing towards her being guilty. He went hard after Myrddraal a round ago. This is less apparent, but I still believe Myrddraal was innocent. Scum or not, dead or alive, Monty is human and just as fallible as the rest of us. He chose not to reveal further information and the exact specifications of his role. That's his prerogative and I'm certainly not going to criticize him for it - I probably would have done the same thing in his shoes. But it also means we can't take anything for granted.Quote:
Originally Posted by seireikhaan
But you haven't told me whether I should vote for you tomorrow or not, GeneralHankerchief.
Also, can someone work out Monty's wonky numbers?
You should not vote for me tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
I'll look into it if the game is still continuing.Quote:
Also, can someone work out Monty's wonky numbers?
Master Hankerchief, the handwave you forgot.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Well, the game is still continuing.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
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I think.
This was the most focused GeneralHankerchief could remember being in quite a while. He was sorting through what remained of Montmorency's quarters, determined to find answers to the questions he sought. He was sure that they were here, he was confident that Montmorency knew more than he let on. At last! This record was what he was looking for! He leafed through the parchment, eyes wide in shock as he discovered the truth of what had been happening. It was not just Shahnak! There were more! He had to warn-
BAM!
The door to the quarters shot off the hinges as the other remaining eight members of the inquisition poured in, weapons raised in hostility.
"Wait, no, I can explain!" GeneralHankerchief protested, the documents in his left hand. "It's all right here, the explanation to everything!"
"Nonsense! You are guilty, General!" A man at the head of the group proclaimed. "We, the inquisition, pass judgment upon you! Prepare to d-"
"Ah, now, now, let us here this evidence," a new voice came in from behind the doorway. All turned in astonishment as Emperor Kavehir strolled through the ruined doorway, a curt frown upon his face. "I am quite eager to see what we have here, actually." He accepted the parchment from GeneralHankerchief, who immediately launched into an explanation of what he discovered.
"My lord, it seems that Shahnak, Armouz, and Firnaz were all here, hidden in the guises of Sooh, Edse, and Dcmort."
"Interesting that this confirms the reports I received earlier today regarding certain... suspicious activities from all three of them, I wonder how he acquired this knowledge..." Kavehir interrupted. He looked upon the gathered inquisition, and a golden flame briefly lit his eyes. "Perhaps it does not matter, for he is gone." Kavehir sighed. "Then we free, at last, finally free. Thank you, thank you all. This realm may be mine, but each of you gathered here has shaped it forever. You and your families will have my eternal gratitude. It is time to disband our Inquisition..." Kavehir paused, and he allowed himself a small smile. "And it is time to celebrate."
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Alive:
Autolycus
El Barto
GeneralHankerchief
Golden1Knight
Ituralde
Johnhughtom
Landlubber
Nightbringer
Zack
Lynched:
Abstain (D1)
Andres (D2)
ACIN (D3)
Dcmort(D4) (Firnaz, God of the Underworld - Mafia)
Edse(D5) (Armouz, God of the Sea - Mafia)
Myrddraal(D6)
Sooh (D7) (Shahnak, God of the Sky - Mafia)
Killed:
Csargo (D1)
Bsmith (N2)
Ironside (N3)
Kagemusha(N4) (Jahandour, Royal Inquisitor - Power Town Role)
Visorslash (N5)
Askthepizzaguy(N6)
Montmorency(N7) (Ardashad, God of Secrets - Third party/Sole Survivor)
Attacked:
Ironside (N1)
Golden1Knight (N2)
Montmorency(N3)
Ituralde(N4)
GeneralHankerchief(N7)
More to come soon from my end.
Huh, I was pretty sure that Kage was the neutral/evil and Monty was the town-aligned role (though you were sketchy as hell near the end, dude).
GG all, I had fun when I wasn't completely fretting that I had it all wrong/utterly exasperated that I was lynchbait. :laugh4: Good effort to the mafia, looks like you guys just had a run of bad luck. And of course, thanks to khaan for hosting this one.
yooooo
I knew Monty was third party since Day 2. I claimed to keep him alive.
GG all.
Just out of boredom?Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
Well, I figure Monty could help win the game, plus I could use the break. Monty getting an extra scan would help town.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
The game was basically solved at that point. Me and Pizza before that were already discussing that Sooh seemed off.
Haha, I asked him point blank what he thought of Sooh (around the time edse was lynched IIRC) and he was noncommittal. Dear god did the foursome of me-Pizza-Monty-Myrd not trust each other. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
Myrd getting lynched was a shocker.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Its the character clash. Big name players never trust other big name players. ;)
Ironically this is probably the most fun I've had as mafia in a game. Thanks guys. :)
This was definitely a town victory. Edse was the only person I didn't scan on recommendation.
Sure, Pizza only mentioned DC alongside Golden because they were both working with him - DC probably wasn't on anyone's radar at that point - but I certainly didn't see Sooh coming.
As usual, I got too invested in divining convoluted schemes and setups against me behind the scenes; I actually did believe that Myrd and GH might be spoofing me. In the end, the simplest scenario prevailed. I did what I did my last round knowing it would get me killed, but that regardless I had set things up so that town would almost-certainly lynch correctly based on the details of the outcome. Also, I didn't like the idea of facing up to 10 lynches to get to last-man-standing!
Nevertheless, 3-scan combo - it would have been beautiful had I been town.
Also, keeping with 3rd-party tradition, I walked a fine line between deceit and exposure. I told most of what I was, and most of what I said was just so, except for the played-up "scan the Emperor" victory condition I invented to soften the revelation that I was town-hostile in the end. Finally, there is one thing I never revealed, though I don't exactly know the details myself: I could never count towards any group action, and participating in a group would preclude my scanning anyone that night. What I don't know is whether I would appear in the writeup with the other group members if I actually did follow through on a group action.
Here's my role PM:
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Originally Posted by seireikhaan
I did pass along to ATPG that you were not aligned with us, I don't know if he passed it on.
Yeah, that's what his transient vote on me was about during the Edse round. I'm pretty sure Myrd also indicated it in-thread somewhere,
I was also completely convinced that your edse scan was incorrect, and of course that sent me off down the garden path... Unable to accept the spoofing theory, I was utterly convinced that you (Monty) had fabricated the edse result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
I was starting to think that there were two factions of killers. I thought that each religion might have a serial killer role (one of them, dcmort, having attacked Monty), with two mafioso being the white-haired and dark haired duo (which I assumed to be Monty and an accomplice).
It's interesting how one incorrect but tightly-held assumption can lead you off into a complete fabrication. Hat's off for GH for catching Sooh out on the protection failure reason, I was so side tracked by that point that I wouldn't have noticed.
I haven't played a full mafia game in years. That was fun. The highlight of the game has got to be the night of 'Visor's last dance'. Great writing @seireikhaan
I agree with Myrd, I really loved my writeup too, reminded me of the one I had in With Great Sacrifice, another really good writeup.
Damn you Lewwyn! :(
I was so close to survive my lynch ~:mecry: (and would have if I'd come online half an hour earlier). At least I was right about Monty being the third party, but now I want to know the numbers for the cults.
Thanks for the game! :)
Good game all!
I'm glad the simple scenario won out! Quite a stroke of luck, good advice by town, for Montmorency to get three guilty results in a row. Turns out the town was actually too good for it's own sake and hindered itself a bit. We could have won sooner, but the way it stood in between, I'm glad it turned out so well for the town!
Great game!
I didn't trust Monty because his data kept not making a whole lot of sense from an honesty and completeness perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
This was before I knew he was third party. Frankly I'd have lynched Monty if he hadn't kept coming up with guilty results and I didn't know he had a third party claim, because he was remarkably bad at conveying the whole truth this game.
Once he gave all the necessary information I asked for and I knew he was third party, I made a commitment to keeping him alive and risking his winning the game in a surprise upset, because he would prove a threat to the mafia if he was being honest (enough) about his role, and if he was alive in endgame someone would have lynched him in my place.
I trusted Myrd for most of the game.
I think it was during the Visor chat that I decided Sooh was scum. Visor and I, when we're both townies, tend to wreck games with our combined thinking. He has missing pieces of the puzzle inside his brain and vice-versa.
I think the universe forces us to be on opposing sides more often than not to keep it sporting for the rest of you little peoples. :P
Also, if the game was still ongoing, I was fully prepared to go scorched-earth on the people who would vote me. I put way too much thought and effort into this to be lynched endgame because a dead, fishy, claimed scanner thought that I might be guilty. :laugh4:
I'd like to know: did the Mafia suspect Kage was a power role, or was it luck? If you did suspect, what tipped you off?
And of course: QT?
Had a lot of fun, thank you guys.
I really didn't know he was the PR when we killed him. I did not lie about that in the thread. It's possible that the others knew, but they didn't tell me. (Perhaps I should have known...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrddraal
Ah-ha! The towniest of townies has scored yet another crushing victory over the forces of Mafia!
For what it's worth, you and Ituralde were the two people I was most confident were town at the end.