Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

First of all, I'm leaning Montmorency to be... not quite towny, but TWTBAW; feels like he's just been doing his own thing/sliding comfortably into the thread/that sort of casualness where he's not overly self-aware of his posts!!! Which also involves his later posts where he doesn't really talk about reads on people in and of themselves, that I sort of think is a little overly suspicious-looking that mafia would be aware of and refrain from doing, to at least sneak some sort of read in it... it's not even hedging, for one!!!!

Second of all, I missed the live-action Powerpuff girls link in his post earlier, and that looks like it'll be an utter disaster; they're going to try and capitalize on recent superhero hype to force it dark and "edgy" and bluh!!!!!! Why DC!!!!!!!

Also, Cuth can be towny!!!!

I got my box of Kaldheim in finally. Alt Border Valki, Extended border Kaya, Regular Vorinclex, foil Tyvar, and Foil Alt border Toralf being the big hits. The list cards all sucked sadly.

Not a bad box though!

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

I'd be curious to hear your thoughts from this angle on GH specifically.

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I mentioned it earlier but I think the way he has basically not engaged with me at all is different than the way he handled me as a wolf last game. He spent quite a few posts and walls trying to explain himself to me whereas this game he's basically just done his own thing and ignored me. I've found it villagery but it's low on the "holds up for a long while" or "more important than how he solves others" scales.

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Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

Hi Csargo!!!!!

Where are you at in the game, in that case? I've seen a whole bunch of posts in your ISO but it feels like you're either holding back a lot or don't have stuff to hold back, would be interested in talking about where you're at!!!

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I don't really have strong thoughts on very many people. I think Visor/Dolby are performing below my expectations of them, judging by past experience. They're usually more obviously town, pretty quickly, so I think they're underwhelming at present.

I'm thinking that pzelda is probably town, because the thoughts and how he's processing people are eerily similar to last game.

I think Esooa, GH, Hally, you, and Cuth are okay.

The rest I don't have particularly strong thoughts either way on.

My town core is Zelda, Ara, and Colonel i think

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Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

What on earth am I missing on Capage!!!!!!!!!!! Someone here is the problem, and I feel like it's me!!!!

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I think you haven't seen me scum in a while. But let's talk about you. You are usually quite difficult to read early on, but I'm getting a good vibe from this one post (earlier posts were either forgettable or slightly scary as that comic strip reminded me of w!GH in champs, but I guess you just couldn't resist a good joke). Here you react to previous activity and ask questions, if you further develop your reads based on answers I think it's a good look!!! That said, some parts feel over the roof hype, almost cryptic. I don't love it, but I don't think it's wolfy.

I don't think you are in danger of getting my vote today, but It's also too early to let you in my town. And i think that's a fair read.

the xposts today are :jawdrop:

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Originally Posted by Csargo

I don't really have strong thoughts on very many people. I think Visor/Dolby are performing below my expectations of them, judging by past experience. They're usually more obviously town, pretty quickly, so I think they're underwhelming at present.

I'm thinking that pzelda is probably town, because the thoughts and how he's processing people are eerily similar to last game.

I think Esooa, GH, Hally, you, and Cuth are okay.

The rest I don't have particularly strong thoughts either way on.

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i didnt know my parents were playing this game

Ara, your definition of "TWTBAW" seems... gauged on a much more sensitive scale than usual, so I'm not sure what to do with those reads? Like, usually I'm used to people applying that read to people who are doing things that just splash into the thread in a very wolfy way, but you seem to be saying "these things are slightly >rand w and I don't think this person would do that many slightly >rand w things so they're probably town". Does that make sense?

Also, why am I a villager?

Visor, where's your head at on our good colonel?

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

my ampharos thoughts:

Warning people to not villa read sunbae easily is probably not something !Wampharos does if concerned that !Vsunbae is getting townread. I believe that !Vsunbae, even on a new site is not going to be a miselimination du jour so warnign people to be careful is probably not wolf indicative.

I believed the above until Sunbae said that this is different to how she treated him in a previous game as village so now I am concerned that Ampharos could be warning people to becareful because she thinks that she would do that as a villager. Still huge margin for her being just a villa sayign this as a villa and just having a different reaction for any amount of reasons.

Concern level: mild

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That's a good point about Sunbae and possibly about Amy. I might be stretching it here, but even keeping Sunbae in discussion might be enough sometimes. Like it's easy to just call strong town players towns and don't care about them, but it also narrows discussion. If you can bring them up from time to time, it makes it easier to fake solve. Also, Sunbae at that point was far from universally townread, so it wasn't like a super, against the thread take, imho.

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

Visor, where's your head at on our good colonel?

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seems okay so far

dude is a pretty good wolf so nothing clearing but seems ok

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Originally Posted by ColonelLubriderm

I have pzelda low solely because of them attributing sometheing to visor(IIRC about laying low early on) which is something i just don't think ever actually crosses visor's mind in practice so i was concerned it was a fabricated read. But I don't hate where they are currently pushing or the results of other reads so i'm not gonna harp on it too much other than this.

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Tbh, my Visor read isn't exactly locked. I don't think I would vote him today unless he returns and posts wolfy. It's just that I have more reasons to sr him now than to tr him now.
To dive into meta a little, I'm rarely paranoid about Visor and I usually balls to the wall townread him, when I feel like he might be town. Here, I don't get it. I might be forcing it a little into a scumread, because I find that more interesting than keeping him in nulls.

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Originally Posted by Visor

ok i read a couple posts this morning and i just want to say

i 98% think amy is a wolf and my vote there is entirely serious, i just wanted to finish the refernece

i will dumpster amy later (and it annoys me that ppl who are not me are gonna get credit because i went to bed lol :P)

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this changes things, i guess. I need to take some time to consider how.

1)Is Colonel Bop? I wonder why his reads are so different from mine. I really just wonder, because I find myself agreeing with most of my other townreads. Is it a different approach to processing people? I would like to see into that to learn something new, but I don't think it's really important alignment-wise.
2)Cuth was difficult to read at first, but I think his approach is too careless to be wolf. Ok, wolves can be careless, but he's also decent and questioning other people and evaluating the gamestate.
3)If I compare Visor's and Amy's returns, the former is flashier and it immediately made me wanna sheep Visor. BUT after thinking about it for a while I'm not that sure if he's that townier than Amy and I need to reread his posts. Tbh, I'm willing to blindly follow town Visor and his strong reads. The one good thing is that he managed to purge my pre-flip w/w association.

I haven't reread Visor yet, but I have a thought. Why would scum Visor lock himself in a fight with Amy here? I think it would make him a likely d2 kill or at least put him under serious pressure later on (if Amy gets yeeted and flips town). Visor probably is capable of risking that, but there are subtler ways to do it than to return in thread guns blazing. I'm just getting a vibe that scum Visor would be a sneakier creature.

More thoughts before diving into Visor. I think that Colonel's read are actually off. Dolby dropped few meta bombs and disappeared (might be irl circumstances), but I think that relying on previous games too heavily is more indicative of scum and he shouldn't be anyone's top town. Csargo is difficult to read, but he's a lovely fella and I think that putting him in wolves is a cheap move. Balls to the wall, Csargo's more likely town here and that read is too strong for too little. I also think that town Visor is capable of making a laser precise read on Csargo by d2.

Monty is scum but he always gets killed earlier or later. He's not the best possible elimination today. Dya probably scum, but there's a big question mark of her being tired for real. In that case yeeting someone else might be more informative as there are more than three other solid candidates for wolves. I believe Amy/Visor contains one (very likely Amy), Eph/Dolbster probably includes a wolf and there are several other players, who are far from locked.

I'm getting tired and my english is getting more broken. I'm sorry for that.

tbh, there are still posts from Visor, which make me wee uncertain (mostly his sod friendly chatting with Csargo and GH), but I like his take on Dolby, his vote on Dya and the way he approached Amy. All that combined I'm willing to call him town and follow his lead.

Unvote: Montomercy
Vote: Ampharos

Visor, what are your specific thoughts on Amy? I'm aware that you think she's mafia but would like a bit of a foundation as to why you got to 98% confidence.

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Originally Posted by Ampharos

I came into this saying I wasn't going to get pocketed by the pogchamps and then immediately started townreading Hally and Ephemeral. Eph just feels super comfortable and I really liked Hally's "X Y and Z towncore with me?" post as well as their "Ara has rocks in her brain" post.

incidentally i have rocks in my brain

Ara might be a villager but I suck at reading Ara so I'm gonna ruminate on it for a bit.

The fact that GH is getting called tryhard is really funny to me because I think y'all's perspective of what tryharding is is super warped. I'm lightly townreading his current level of engagement with the thread with the caveat that I would feel really bad if he randed wolf again and might just be #wanting.

i have no wolfreads and i'm probably not posting much more tonight, get at me

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Originally Posted by Ampharos

i don't think anything sunbae's posted has been alignment indicative and i think it's kinda wack that he's copping townreads already

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Originally Posted by Ampharos

possible, but i think there's also a natural inclination to townread sunbae because he's a nice dude who writes nice posts that make you nod along

i just think it's too early to be making that call when he's also perfectly capable of faking it

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Originally Posted by Ampharos

mm

visor's prolly town

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Dunkin' Donuts: Part 1

the first post is performative, making a show of things (and worth contrasting to the later post re sunbae). it also is just tonally off for the position of the thread, its making a grand statement where at that point a lot of people already villa read those slots. plus i think it is in amys wolf tone wheelhouse

sunbae post: two problemos, one is the meta narrative behind pulling away village reads on sunbae, and the other is the word choice, wack. first part: obv sunbae is a good player, but most of us are good players and make good tonal posts, while sunbae could probably make the posts he made as either alignment, in the end that doesnt matter and you have to start somewhere. i don't think the paranoia around sunbae slot makes sense for how you treat the hally/eph slots. the bigger issue imo is the word choice wack, firstly it shades the ppl who make those reads implicitly through dark forces. second thing is that its the wrong word choice, the words you expect to see here are: weird, strange, wild, etc. wack is a stylistic choice that wolves make to appear with it.

townreading me: amy struggled to townread me most of the inviational game until the gh/newc section (which is fine), but she also expressed she has had trouble reading me in the past. it seems strange to me, to place such an early townread on me, when historically you say you have had trouble reading me, when i haven't done a huge amoutn of solving thus far in the game, and i am well known for making offtopic/joke posts as either alignment (as a person in general). ppl who know me might lean one way or another, but it feels weird for me to be a village read when i haven't kicked on to anything yet

there's no paranoia over my posts here, but we should be paranoid over sunbae for posting things that sound fine? sunbae could be a wolf and i am wrong here, but it should be fine to villaread sunbae for stuff, we are gonna examine him later if he survives anyway.

thx for attending my ted talk, see you bronanas tomorrow.

the crux of the post for me is the tonal structure of sentences/word choices really pings me

ymmv

and nice cross post gh

yeppers

i read that string of posts when i was catching up this morning and was debating in my head about whether or not to talk about them

and then i saw visor had the same impression and was like sick i don't have to use my words

but i agree wholeheartedly

i don't think that teasing away strong early reads is Wolfy, i don't think that hally and eph are bad reads to have, i don't think criticizing people calling out gh for tryharding is Wrong

i do think they are weird things to do, and the last one is particularly soapbox-y

but it all feels like she's going through the motions and i really don't like the reaction to visor

Seems good enough to me. :stupido:

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

yeppers

i read that string of posts when i was catching up this morning and was debating in my head about whether or not to talk about them

and then i saw visor had the same impression and was like sick i don't have to use my words

but i agree wholeheartedly

i don't think that teasing away strong early reads is Wolfy, i don't think that hally and eph are bad reads to have, i don't think criticizing people calling out gh for tryharding is Wrong

i do think they are weird things to do, and the last one is particularly soapbox-y

but it all feels like she's going through the motions and i really don't like the reaction to visor

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i agree they are not wrong and perfectly valid thoughts, just the way things are expressed

but ye basically

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Seems good enough to me. :stupido:

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"wolf watching a villager kill another villager"

:stare:

@Hally getting back to your question from earlier in the day, I no longer believe that Visor and Amy could be paired.

i have no defense other than "i was in a shit headspace last night for oog reasons and am not surprised that i was off tonally"

am confident that my body of work will vindicate me eventually

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Originally Posted by Ampharos

i have no defense other than "i was in a shit headspace last night for oog reasons and am not surprised that i was off tonally"

am confident that my body of work will vindicate me eventually

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incorrect i am the odd night tracker

vote: GeneralHankerchief

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Originally Posted by Visor

"wolf watching a villager kill another villager"

:stare:

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for the record, though, this is exactly the sort of read i townread visor off of last night

i was fully aware that my mood was probably gonna be reflected in my play and was unsurprised to immediately receive suspicion upon posting, but the snapvote itself didn't really move the needle for me; it was the post in reply to my sunbae thing, something along the lines of "this is a wolf telling villagers to stop correctly reading a villager" that felt super authentic and like he was actually making a read off my posts

just feels like the sort of read that comes from villagers much more often

+ i don't think i'm an easy misdunk target and continue to suspect that wolves would generally prefer to pocket me d1 rather than bury me, absent outside influence

i also didn't think my opener was so far affected that someone with tmi would pick up on it and feel confident wolfreading it, i suppose, but i'm unsure if i stand by that given the current wagon on me lol

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Originally Posted by dyachei

I feel like I'm having issues getting into the flow of this game

hally pointing out weird posts with few conclusions feels more like their villa game but im not ready to commit

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why're you having issues with that @dyachei

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Originally Posted by Hally

i guess i’m worried he’s #overcompensating for that by forcing himself to come out swinging again, but that didn’t go so well for him in team maf (dab dab) so i dunno if he would do it again lol

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disagree. So far it feels to me much more like actual things he's picking up rather than opening the game with a case, based on how his focus is more fluid and such

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral

well he's definitely not doing a repeat of team mafia so far

nor do i expect him to

but his pushes so far are kinda:stare:

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I disagree they're very :stare:

Dolby has had straight up weird takes multiple times"

I lightly dislike him for that reason so eh

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Originally Posted by Maple

I'm ordering fancy crepes

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want

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Originally Posted by Hally

sunbae
eph
dolby
ara
capage
gh
esooa
bop

might just mess around and call all these villagers. bop is probably my least confident but it feels alright for now

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feels kinda early for this, and usually when I have this many early town reads I get kinda paranoid

Idr if Hally is the same but hopefully I see at least some of that later

@Sunbae

you around?

wanna talk dya?

Who is thread spewed

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

The "amusingly self-deprecating" tier:

Cuthillius

The "seems very villagery and if so will be painfully obvious by EoD2 at the latest" tier:

Esooa
Hally
Sunbae

The "feel familiarly villagery in a way that makes me happy but isn't actually very coherent in my mind" tier:

Arapocalypse
Ephemeral

The "makes me question if I have a microchip implanted in my mind to sponge thoughts from my future self so he can pocket me" tier:

Visor

The "my friends are v-reading him so I feel like I should too" tier:

Dolby

The "if they're wolves they're doing a great job of hiding it, but the same applies to them if v" tier:

Csargo
Montmorency
pzelda
Manasi
ColonelLubriderm
dyachei
Maple

The "prepare to be spitroasted" tier:

GeneralHankerchief
Ampharos

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interested in more about pzelda, myself, gh here

Sunbae is sunbae posting but it isn't overtly villagery

I trust cthalion very little

I want to call manasi v for literally no reason other than thread feelz

This is a bad read

I'm not a fan of dya but it could be oog

Ara is giving me specifically lms vibes and I don't understand it

If anyone will be thread spewed my money is in hally or esooa

I don't trust hally though, their gh posting felt odd; I never trust them tho

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Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

I'm actually not doing that because I don't feel like multiquoting; maybe he's just threadspewed town and this is easy!!

Vote: Visor

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I read ~all of day 1 of the rocks invitational (and none after) but since that game I've been very wary of considering people threadspewed, cause of the newcomb stuff lol

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Originally Posted by Csargo

I don't really have strong thoughts on very many people. I think Visor/Dolby are performing below my expectations of them, judging by past experience. They're usually more obviously town, pretty quickly, so I think they're underwhelming at present.

I'm thinking that pzelda is probably town, because the thoughts and how he's processing people are eerily similar to last game.

I think Esooa, GH, Hally, you, and Cuth are okay.

The rest I don't have particularly strong thoughts either way on.

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can you explain your read on me? I find it odd I'm getting basically nothing but town reads in my catchup while I've not really done much lol

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

My town core is Zelda, Ara, and Colonel i think

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can you explain ara/colonel?

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Originally Posted by Visor

i didnt know my parents were playing this game

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lmfao

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Originally Posted by pzelda

tbh, there are still posts from Visor, which make me wee uncertain (mostly his sod friendly chatting with Csargo and GH), but I like his take on Dolby, his vote on Dya and the way he approached Amy. All that combined I'm willing to call him town and follow his lead.

Unvote: Montomercy
Vote: Ampharos

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6 consecutive good posts from pzelda here is making me wanna just lock town him lol

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Originally Posted by Visor

Dunkin' Donuts: Part 1

the first post is performative, making a show of things (and worth contrasting to the later post re sunbae). it also is just tonally off for the position of the thread, its making a grand statement where at that point a lot of people already villa read those slots. plus i think it is in amys wolf tone wheelhouse

sunbae post: two problemos, one is the meta narrative behind pulling away village reads on sunbae, and the other is the word choice, wack. first part: obv sunbae is a good player, but most of us are good players and make good tonal posts, while sunbae could probably make the posts he made as either alignment, in the end that doesnt matter and you have to start somewhere. i don't think the paranoia around sunbae slot makes sense for how you treat the hally/eph slots. the bigger issue imo is the word choice wack, firstly it shades the ppl who make those reads implicitly through dark forces. second thing is that its the wrong word choice, the words you expect to see here are: weird, strange, wild, etc. wack is a stylistic choice that wolves make to appear with it.

townreading me: amy struggled to townread me most of the inviational game until the gh/newc section (which is fine), but she also expressed she has had trouble reading me in the past. it seems strange to me, to place such an early townread on me, when historically you say you have had trouble reading me, when i haven't done a huge amoutn of solving thus far in the game, and i am well known for making offtopic/joke posts as either alignment (as a person in general). ppl who know me might lean one way or another, but it feels weird for me to be a village read when i haven't kicked on to anything yet

there's no paranoia over my posts here, but we should be paranoid over sunbae for posting things that sound fine? sunbae could be a wolf and i am wrong here, but it should be fine to villaread sunbae for stuff, we are gonna examine him later if he survives anyway.

thx for attending my ted talk, see you bronanas tomorrow.

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this is the longest Visor post I've ever seen I think, and it's constantly making me feel weird about him lol

Am I right you don't usually make posts like this Visor? Why now?

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Originally Posted by Maple

Who is thread spewed

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pzelda but I town read him p strongly now so idc anymore

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Originally Posted by Esooa

this is the longest Visor post I've ever seen I think, and it's constantly making me feel weird about him lol

Am I right you don't usually make posts like this Visor? Why now?

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you are wrong!

i post how i feel like when i feel like which i think is why ppl can have trouble reading me because i don't play the same game everytime

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Originally Posted by Maple

Sunbae is sunbae posting but it isn't overtly villagery

I trust cthalion very little

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+1 to cuth but I wanna hear more from him about the reads on like, myself and GH

do I just vote by bolding? like this lol?

vote: Cuthalion

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Originally Posted by Visor

you are wrong!

i post how i feel like when i feel like which i think is why ppl can have trouble reading me because i don't play the same game everytime

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oki, well if you normally change playstyle stuff like that I'll probably try not to factor that into my read. I think I've only ever seen you make more snippy posts though (idk what else to use other than snippy but it's not bad)

anyways yay I'm caught up now time to vibe

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Originally Posted by Esooa

oki, well if you normally change playstyle stuff like that I'll probably try not to factor that into my read. I think I've only ever seen you make more snippy posts though (idk what else to use other than snippy but it's not bad)

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i did make some longer posts in the metal gear game

idk

you will mostly see short snippy posts but i do occasionally branch out into the forbidden art of text walling

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Originally Posted by Visor

i did make some longer posts in the metal gear game

idk

you will mostly see short snippy posts but i do occasionally branch out into the forbidden art of text walling

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I didn't read that game after dying

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Originally Posted by Csargo

I don't really have strong thoughts on very many people. I think Visor/Dolby are performing below my expectations of them, judging by past experience. They're usually more obviously town, pretty quickly, so I think they're underwhelming at present.

I'm thinking that pzelda is probably town, because the thoughts and how he's processing people are eerily similar to last game.

I think Esooa, GH, Hally, you, and Cuth are okay.

The rest I don't have particularly strong thoughts either way on.

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Can you elaborate on one of the ones that you have as okay? Or rather, what's your strongest townread?

How have you found Dolby to be more obviously town than here?

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

My town core is Zelda, Ara, and Colonel i think

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Why me/Colonel?

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Originally Posted by Visor

@Sunbae

you around?

wanna talk dya?

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Outside of this quick check in I won't really be around much until later tonight at the earliest or tomorrow. I'm going to do my best to land in the 75 post range at the end of the day (one for my own sanity, two because I am a visitor to the forum and think it's pretty clear that high volume isn't really what the regulars here are hoping for).

I don't really have many Dya thoughts. I had a brief interaction with her, did a couple of quick lower post count isos before I headed out later, saw hers and thought it was the posting of someone that didn't really want to be there. I thought it was possibly due to randing wolf yet again after getting a small break in the rand last game and voted her. Nothing that has happened since has made me feel differently but there's other things I've been focusing on so it's kinda on the back burner.

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Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

Why me/Colonel?

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I think Colonel's reads and engagement about reads point towards being a villager. Notably how different to everyone else he's been and the way he started changing GH's reads around to show where he'd be instead + following it up with saying "i didnt' say we were close. I was showing you what needed to change for us to be close". Just kinda feels like they are doing their own thing and don't really care what the perception is on it.

With you I think the way you engaged about pZelda asking others why they townread them in the way you did was towny. Essentially that it wasn't just a throwaway question but one you kinda harped on for a bit to get an answer for made me think you actually cared. When you got one from me you engaged with it and didn't seem to have an agenda behind agreeing with part of my take but not being entirely satisfied (saying you might pull up whats been bothering you later).

any toughts on amy?

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Originally Posted by pzelda

I think you haven't seen me scum in a while. But let's talk about you. You are usually quite difficult to read early on, but I'm getting a good vibe from this one post (earlier posts were either forgettable or slightly scary as that comic strip reminded me of w!GH in champs, but I guess you just couldn't resist a good joke). Here you react to previous activity and ask questions, if you further develop your reads based on answers I think it's a good look!!! That said, some parts feel over the roof hype, almost cryptic. I don't love it, but I don't think it's wolfy.

I don't think you are in danger of getting my vote today, but It's also too early to let you in my town. And i think that's a fair read.

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It's quite fair that I probably haven't; I actually can't remember the last time I've seen you as mafia? Besides maybe that one pink champs game!!!

I unfortunately am not able to take credit for the funny comic; it was made by 4maskwolf in a recent teamgame, but is very !!!!!!!!!!!!!! for many mafia situations and I am thus adopting it as my own!!!!!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

:on_void:

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Originally Posted by Visor

any toughts on amy?

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None. I'm a sucker for "my headspace was bad last night but I'll get right". I tend to just give that space. I could talk about how acknowledging that issues were issues instead of arguing against specific parts of the case is mildly villagery but I don't really think that matters in the grand scheme of things and think the next 24 hours will say a lot more.

My biggest note of the whole thing was how your take on Ampharos giving you a town read pretty quickly being weird pretty much mirrored my earlier post about my mild concerns with you lol. Yours sounded a lot fancier but I think the gist was the same.

Do you think my concerns about csargo are things that actually matter with them? I kinda found their response of "yeah i get awkward sometimes just how it is" villagery but I have zero experience with them so I'm hoping for some guidance.

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

Ara, your definition of "TWTBAW" seems... gauged on a much more sensitive scale than usual, so I'm not sure what to do with those reads? Like, usually I'm used to people applying that read to people who are doing things that just splash into the thread in a very wolfy way, but you seem to be saying "these things are slightly >rand w and I don't think this person would do that many slightly >rand w things so they're probably town". Does that make sense?

Also, why am I a villager?

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I gather that you think I'm applying the TWTBAW label too liberally, if I'm understanding you correctly? Which... I mean, I guess I could be? But I think I have it set at approximately the correct scale to have for someone who's only had 4 posts in the game so far which unless Montmorency has a severe post-volume meta different (which I don't think he does) then... I'm fine with this for a light initial read, not ride or die!!!

I feel like you are interested in and engaged in the game in a towny way; really basic read but stuff like you outlining your reads already and others make me feel like you're thinking about the game, I guess!! Not a strong read; that being said, I'm okay with it at the moment!!!!

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Originally Posted by Sunbae

None. I'm a sucker for "my headspace was bad last night but I'll get right". I tend to just give that space. I could talk about how acknowledging that issues were issues instead of arguing against specific parts of the case is mildly villagery but I don't really think that matters in the grand scheme of things and think the next 24 hours will say a lot more.

My biggest note of the whole thing was how your take on Ampharos giving you a town read pretty quickly being weird pretty much mirrored my earlier post about my mild concerns with you lol. Yours sounded a lot fancier but I think the gist was the same.

Do you think my concerns about csargo are things that actually matter with them? I kinda found their response of "yeah i get awkward sometimes just how it is" villagery but I have zero experience with them so I'm hoping for some guidance.

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ya me too, gonna give some time there before deciding what to do.

i did find csargos posts a little awkard at times? but i havent read what ive missed overnight so i may be missing some stuff

it felt a little 200 tildes.

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Originally Posted by pzelda

1)Is Colonel Bop? I wonder why his reads are so different from mine. I really just wonder, because I find myself agreeing with most of my other townreads. Is it a different approach to processing people? I would like to see into that to learn something new, but I don't think it's really important alignment-wise.
2)Cuth was difficult to read at first, but I think his approach is too careless to be wolf. Ok, wolves can be careless, but he's also decent and questioning other people and evaluating the gamestate.
3)If I compare Visor's and Amy's returns, the former is flashier and it immediately made me wanna sheep Visor. BUT after thinking about it for a while I'm not that sure if he's that townier than Amy and I need to reread his posts. Tbh, I'm willing to blindly follow town Visor and his strong reads. The one good thing is that he managed to purge my pre-flip w/w association.

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Okay okay, you can be town; these are really towny thoughts!!!

Very !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(This chain of posts in general is !!!!!!!!!!!! but pulling this one out in particular as it's the most notable of them!!!!)

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Originally Posted by Esooa

interested in more about pzelda, myself, gh here

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nothing to say about pzelda

you're there because you made a few posts that read well emotionally (i know people hate this sort of read because emotions aren't something you're supposed to read people off of but i don't care) early on and i feel pretty good about how your approach has lined up with those specific feelings

gh and amy are both the sort of players who sound reasonable and present plausible logical arguments no matter what they're doing, but i dislike the angles they've taken with their reads and where they've engaged to a degree, and neither has presented a lot of Caring about their reads or state in the game at this point

which is just me trying to find slightly different words than the ones i used talking to visor just now-- essentially, both feel like they are Making Points but lacking in the depth and subtleties that i expect to see from them as villagers

i'm not smitten with gh's swap onto amy and i wanted to give amy some space after her posts just now (i don't think they sway the needle entirely, but i resonate with the humanity in them), thus the vote switch just now

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Originally Posted by Esooa

I read ~all of day 1 of the rocks invitational (and none after) but since that game I've been very wary of considering people threadspewed, cause of the newcomb stuff lol

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i kid you not

i have spent half a day wondering why people were talking about rocks so much and what game they were referencing

it just clicked when i read this post on my walk just now

i feel very silly

visor i'm gonna be salty if you're v and you misread me later in the game despite my prolific use of capitalization and punctuation this morning

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Originally Posted by Esooa

can you explain your read on me? I find it odd I'm getting basically nothing but town reads in my catchup while I've not really done much lol

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To keep it simple, I thought your woof game was stiff and it seemed at times you were just pandering to people. Your town game was more loose/relaxed for lack of a better word, I think I see that more here, that's enough for me to think you're okay for now.

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Originally Posted by Visor

ya me too, gonna give some time there before deciding what to do.

i did find csargos posts a little awkard at times? but i havent read what ive missed overnight so i may be missing some stuff

it felt a little 200 tildes.

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I figured you'd be well aware of this.

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Originally Posted by Maple

I want to call manasi v for literally no reason other than thread feelz

This is a bad read

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I mindmeld with this read.

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Originally Posted by Esooa

this is the longest Visor post I've ever seen I think, and it's constantly making me feel weird about him lol

Am I right you don't usually make posts like this Visor? Why now?

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lol, I had the same feeling. I remember longer posts from Visor, but I haven't seen one in a long long time.

i've committed to too much and this game is on the backburner for me

i wanted to chill more and said I'd be lower posting when I joined

Official Tally as of #636

5 Ampharos (Visor, Hally, Cuthillius, GeneralHankerchief, pzelda)

2 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse)
2 Cuthillius (Maple, Esooa)

1 GeneralHankerchief (Csargo)
1 Hally (Montmorency)
1 Maple (Ephemeral)
1 Montmorency (ColonelLubriderm)

Not Voting: Ampharos, Dolby, dyachei, Manasi




Votes without bold don't count. :book2:

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Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

It's quite fair that I probably haven't; I actually can't remember the last time I've seen you as mafia? Besides maybe that one pink champs game!!!

I unfortunately am not able to take credit for the funny comic; it was made by 4maskwolf in a recent teamgame, but is very !!!!!!!!!!!!!! for many mafia situations and I am thus adopting it as my own!!!!!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

:on_void:

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Usually, as scum I get sooner or later bussed or outed by bussing.

yes yes i know

vote: GeneralHankerchief

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Originally Posted by Arapocalypse

Can you elaborate on one of the ones that you have as okay? Or rather, what's your strongest townread?

How have you found Dolby to be more obviously town than here?

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pzelda>Esooa>GH>Cuth,you, Hally.

I can't really explain the zelda read any better. Other than from last game to this game looks the same to me, so I don't think it's hard to infer that zelda's probably town here. I don't have much to say about the other's that I haven't already said somewhere else.

Cuth, Ara, Hally are just people I felt okay with from skimming the thread, I don't really have anything to point to, to say why exactly. Just that they were people who seemed good to me. I don't want to think about it too much tbh.

I don't understand your second question if I'm honest. Dolby's usually pretty clear-cut and has well thought-out insights regarding the game. This just looks really messy to me. I dunno, it's not really that good of an argument, but ~:shrug: