Its actually Graham Turner. ~;)Quote:
I've seen a couple of Reynold's excellent Armies of the Caliphates plates, and I must say, I must have it!
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Its actually Graham Turner. ~;)Quote:
I've seen a couple of Reynold's excellent Armies of the Caliphates plates, and I must say, I must have it!
Hah, I was guessing ~D
So, how about that Byzantine most attractive plate? ~;)
~Wiz
Thanks for that Wiz...
But what do you mean by Late Byzantine because I haven't found it....
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Thanks BKB, i plan on getting the first three on my list. ~:)Quote:
Vikings and Normans are awesome, must-haves. Saxon, Viking and Norman is pretty lame plate-wise, and of course you aren't going to get as much info as in the stand-alone titles (Where's my Angus McBride illustrated Elite Saxons book Osprey?!?). The Wars of Alexander the Great - is that the title that includes the campaign book and the MAA title? The MAA features good McBride plates while the Campaign book features no true stand-alone illustrations. Together however I'm sure they'd provide a detailed yet concise overview of Alexander's campaigns and armies over that 11 year period. If you can get it for less that £20 you're also looking at a bargain as Campaign + MAA = £22 normally.
edit-yep, just ordered them free of shipping charge. ~:)
I received "The Moors - The Islamic West 7th-15th Centuries AD" this morning. Only half of it is about Dark Age, but I wanted to get something else than Norman and Viking stuffs ~D
I'd like Osprey to release a book which would be both about Dark Age and Steppe people, like Armies of the Khazar, but it's unlikely to happens. People prefer books about WWII.
I have read Hungary and the Fall of Eastern Europe...
Well... it was rather dissappointment, mainly because I was lookingfor more information about Balcan armies after 1480 and I didn't get really anything - one plate ~:confused: - It should be called differently, because there is nothing about Haiduks and such like in the book, so earlier ending date in the title would be better, I believe.
Most unfortunate it was that about 10 pages are used for the Byzantines, who later got their own book ( later armies).
Generally I am looking forward to a new one describing ONLY Balcan armies, but how long can I wait ? ~;)
BKB this is for you,
Have you got the "Warriors and Warlords:The Art of Angus McBride" book?!
Hell yeah! And what the hell is with all those damn WW2 books? It's boring, there are guns, no horses, and they've had a million.Quote:
I'd like Osprey to release a book which would be both about Dark Age and Steppe people, like Armies of the Khazar, but it's unlikely to happens. People prefer books about WWII.
We need a book about Khazars, a book about Avars, and mabye a book about the Qipchaqs, or the Seljuqs.
Yeah. And everybody learn WWII at school anyway. The good won, the bad lost, and that's all.
There's a lot of book about the Khazar in France, but sadly, they don't have Angus McBride plates ~;)
There is far too much modern stuff yes, but I fear they sell better - just look at the range in Osprey's polls every month. Its clear what there main audience is.
Attila and the Nomad Hordes and Mounted Archer of the Steppe seemed quite adequate to me. I suppose I could go for either a Armies of the Seljuk Turks and Armies of the Khazar Khaganate or two Steppe Armies volumes, but I feel there are more important medieval ones that have yet to be covered - North-Eastern Europe and Africa (non-Muslim) for example. Then there are areas I'd like to see delved deeper into - Iberia, the Balkans and even Britain. The Scottish and Welsh Wars is awful. Ireland, Scotland and Wales, even England I feel, have been ignored.
Thanks Ed but I've known about this for a while. Its merely a compilation featuring some of his best pieces, most of which I have, and none are exclusive. I'll pass but for anyone wanting to know why he is rated so highly they need only look at the brilliance and range on offer.Quote:
Warriors and Warlords:The Art of Angus McBride
The two steppe ones are good, yes, but it's too much of an over view. I'd like to know more about the tactics and different types of soldiers each place fielded.
But I agree, there needs to be more other stuff as well. I would like them to cover more about Hungary's earlier years, which would work out, since it would cover the Avars and the Magyars as well. I really liked the Hungry and eastern Europe, though it is too far into the present for my tastes, by a bit.
Indeed Steppe Merc,
Many other subjects have to be covered. For example, I haven't found any books on my ancestors, the Dacians and the Thracians. Or, other books, like the Armies of the Khazar Khaganates, Romania in the Medieval Period, Medieval English Armies, French Elite Cavalry.....
I think I can help a bit there:
Rome' Enemies 1
Features the Germanics and Dacians, though the artwork (Embleton) is truly awful!
Thracians
Ah now this is much better! Great plates by Angus and purely just about the Thracians.
I agree about England, though there are some alternatives:
The Armies of Crecy and Poitiers (MAA)
The Armies of Agincourt (MAA)
The Wars of the Roses (MAA)
Henry V and the Conquest of France 1416-1453 (MAA)
English Longbowman (Warrior)
English Medieval Knight 1200-1300 (Warrior)
English Medieval Knight 1300-1400 (Warrior)
English Medieval Knight 1400-1500 (Warrior)
Many Campaign Books (Falkirk/Stirling Bridge, Tewkesbury, Towton, Bosworth,
100 Years War related, etc.)
Also the various Norman titles should be noted too. So its not that bad. A 2 volume English Armies set though, along with one for each of the Celtic nations of the UK (inc. Ireland) would be brilliant though.
Your new titles:
"Grand Master of the Osprey books"
"Sales Director of Osprey Publishing"
Thanks for that. I'm still thinking on what to buy, now my dad gave me my whole piggy bank to spend ~D ~:cheers:
Not sure about the latter (more like Sales Director of Angus McBride!) but the first seems appropriate. You think these are good you should try the Concord ones. Their low on info and more expensive, but 20 HUGE McBride plates, mostly always of actual fighting is worth it any day of the week!
I'm really not interested in the plates.
I bought the Osprey books for info, and the plates and maps help me understand more the situation, for example, Tannenburg 1410.
Yeh my preference is info first, plates second, but i am still looking foward to the viking plates/norman plates.
Well, on the table for future releases is a title about Serbian medieval armies. A while ago it was up for voting, but it lost to Sassanian Armies, IIRC.
It would be an immensely interesting book as far as I am concerned. The medieval Balkans are a very interesting theater.
~Wiz
Just got "Russian medieval armies" (1&2) and "Spanish armies of the Napoleonic wars" (all 3).... Should provide for an entertaining month...
:bow:
I believe it was Armies of Croatia and Serbia 600-1300. However, just because it was in a poll unfortunately means nothing. DO NOT bank on this being released otherwise you may be severely disappointed.Quote:
Well, on the table for future releases is a title about Serbian medieval armies. A while ago it was up for voting, but it lost to Sassanian Armies, IIRC.
It would be an immensely interesting book as far as I am concerned. The medieval Balkans are a very interesting theater.
Well, I'm not. I was just musing that, if the idea was there, and that if the winning book would actually be published, the idea or desire to make such a book was certainly there.
~Wiz
I don't believe the winning book was - Sassanians was not in that poll. For some reasons some stupid people voted for a Port Arthur fortress book ahead of it. Check out here for all the past polls and which ideas were actually used:
Osprey Poll Archive
Almost every book in the new poll is about ww2.
BKB, is there any book just about knights. I dont want like knights 1400-1500, i just want one that gives an overview of knights.
Good books on knights:
Tannenburg 1410
God's Warriors
English Medieval Knight
and other. BKB can reccomend you more because he has tons of Osprey books.
Oh english medieval knight is what i was looking for is it in elite or men at arms?
It's in the Warrior series...
I plan on buying the French Medieval Armies, so I can learn about the French knights and Paladins ~D
unfortuantly its split into differnt time periods. My funds are low and i already bought three.
Edyzmedieval, I doubt you'll find anything about the French Paladins in any Osprey book. These guys were mostly mythical figures just like the Knight of the Round Table. They might have existed, but I don't think there are proven fact to support this claim. The Chanson of Roland has been written 200 years after Charlemagne's reign.
There's not even a word about them in "Armies of Charlemagne". Your best try would be "Warriors - Carolingian Cavalrymen", but then again, I doubt you'll find anything about Paladins.
If the Paladins never existed,
Then how do you call the elite French knights?!
Chevaliers. Which is simply the French version of Dutch ridder and German ritter; all terms mean "rider".
~Wiz
Yeah, although the Paladins (if they existed) were most likely called Equites, Milites or *ancient german word for rider* in my opinion. Chevalier is a much later word.
Oh, if we're talking the real paladins, as in those in the time of Charlemagne itself and not the "knights in shining armor", then indeed, they would be called milites (sing. miles).
~Wiz
Back to topic.
Anyone here won the Osprey competition?!
I never enter them.
I was talking about REAL Paladins, those in very shining armour, and the best of the knights.....Quote:
Originally Posted by The Wizard
Why not?! It's a good way to get books for free ~DQuote:
Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia
I entered 2 times, last month and this month. Never won :(
How do i enter these contest?
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Originally Posted by edyzmedieval
Well, the 'real' Paladins (those who supposedly fought with Charlemagne) are as controversial as the Knights of the Round Table. They *might* have existed, but who knows ?
Tales such as "La Chanson de Roland" were written much later (La Chanson de Roland was written in the 11th, and is - I think - the earlier written source about the Paladins).
Later in middle age, landless, wandering knights were sometimes also called Paladins in some tales and poems.
BKB,
How good are the following books:
Sassanian Elite Cavalry
French Medieval Armies 1000-1300
Thanks
The Sassanians is very good, haven't had a chance to read it all yet but the plates are nice, with one in particular being outstanding.
Now FMA I really like. Good info and top-notch plates. Highly recommended.
Struck gold again ~D
Thanks very much BKB.
ANd the Italian Men at Arms?! ~D
I finally got my fist books! Vikings and normans are great. ~:cheers:
1000-1300 is great but 1300-1500 is very poor plate wise but info is great in both, if Angus would have done plates in the latter the book would have been superb
Found out a few new books for early next year aside from the ones aforementioned.
Bronze Age War Chariots (New Vanguard)
Ancient Greek Fortifications 500-336BC (Fortress)
Otturburn 1388 (Campaign)
Weird one Otturburn....the other two were dead certs really. Hope Angus does Otturburn, but it will most likely be Graham Turner. Polish Winged Hussar has also been delayed until next year. Sorry Cegorach.
Ahhh Damn!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia
I really liked that book....
Oh well, planning now to buy Ninja, Sassanians and FMA. But now I really have to convince my dad....
Sample page is up for The Mycenaeans. I must say it certainly looks like an intriguing title, although I'm hoping for a good battle pic, preferably a Siege of Troy double page spread. ~:)
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/osp_...S8979SPR2S.JPG
Polish Winged Hussar has also been delayed until next year. Sorry Cegorach.[/QUOTE]
Well I will wait... ~:handball:
I have just bought the Boyne 1690 - very good choice considering the place I am living and the season of the marches. ~;)
I am negotiating 20 % (hopefully) discount in a local bookshop. When I get it I will order 25 more books before I come back to Poland ! ~:cheers:
I planned to spend a certain amount of money for this so the reduction of the prices means... more Osprey books of course ~D
Just got this today and was disappointed to see only 2 plates, and not very exciting ones either BTW. Still, I bought this one more for the read and it looks pretty good in that respect.Quote:
I have just bought the Boyne 1690 - very good choice considering the place I am living and the season of the marches.
Yes the plates are rather bad, but there is enough data to make a historical battle from this, I am not sure if for PMTW 2.0 or PMTW2 though :book:
Hey does anybody here with osprey books from the roman times want to offer some info on units, etc for Imperium Total War. If so please pm me or atheist peace here at the org.
KoA means Imperium Total War, but yes if you want to help us with some unit pics, that would be greatly appreciated.
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/books_likeread.php
This time the choice is very simple ~;)
Not for me. It's all boring gun stuff.
And I'm quite angry, I still haven't gotten my Sassanians!
Ditto Steppe - those polls are getting worse! Good job they don't really mean much. Glad Easter Rising won last month's though.
My dear, those Myceneans really do look rather primitive.
I thought they would look less like stone age people than this. And yet it sort of fits perfectly with my own view of them... I guess they just look a little too much like the warriors of ancient middle east (a good Osprey MAA btw).
Having read the Pirates Ships and the Greek Hoplite I can say thatthe first is not really that interesting as I had hoped, the pirates were simply not equiped with ships that are fun enough. The Black Pearl for instance (just a comparison) is a ship that is about the largest a pirate ever commanded. So many sloops and even canoos. I should have known better!
The Greek Hoplite is good of course, it might be a bit dated now, but I found nothing wrong with it. And it even has a limited proof of the push between formations (a stela of a hoplite leaning into the shield as he advances).
those polls are getting worse! Good job they don't really mean much. Glad Easter Rising won last month's though.[/QUOTE]
Not to me as long as Warsaw 1920 wins. BTW if the book will be written it is gonna be probably the first one with so good pictures about the battle ~;)
Today is the release day of new books. Can't wait to see what's new, although I have the catalogue.
My books still haven't arrived! ~:mecry: :furious3: :furious: :furious2: :furious4:
I have selected books I will order today - although only marked with @ are urgently necessary. ~;)
Original 25 rised to almost 50, but I won't get it easier and cheaper in Poland anyway ~:cheers:
What do you think -
Campaign
Pavia 1525 @
Nagashino 1575
The Armada Campaign 1588 @
Lepanto 1571 @
Kawanakajima 1553–64
Sekigahara 1600
Auldearn 1645 @
Dunbar 1650 @
Poltava 1709
Fornovo 1495 @
Granada 1492 @
Tannenberg 1410
Iwo Jima 1945
Okinawa 1945
Poland 1939
Peleliu 1944
Cassino 1944
Essential Histories
The French Religious Wars 1562–1598
The Thirty Years' War 1618–1648
The French Wars 1667–1714
The Seven Years' War
Men-at-Arms
Samurai Armies 1550–1615
Henry VIII's Army @
The Irish Wars 1485–1603
The English Civil War Armies
The Wild Geese @
New Model Army 1645–60
Louis XIV's Army @
Late Imperial Chinese Armies 1520–1840
Scots Armies of the English Civil Wars @
Armies of the Ottoman Empire 1775–1820
Tribes of the Iroquois Confederacy
The Cossacks
The Swiss at War 1300–1500 @
Armies of the Ottoman Turks 1300–1774 @
The Venetian Empire 1200–1670 @
Armies of the German Peasants' War 1524–26 @
Napoleon’s Polish Troops
Ukrainian Armies 1914–55
The Polish Army 1939–45
Warrior
Ironsides @
Ninja AD 1460–1650
Knight Hospitaller (2) @
Landsknecht Soldier 1486–1560 @
Elite
Samurai Commanders (2)
The Janissaries @
Others
Japanese Army Air Force Aces 1937–45
Polish Aces of World War 2
Regards Cegorach ~:cheers:
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No fair.... Why am I not allowed to order 50 books ?! I only have 3 ~:mecry:
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BTW, the Tannenburg is really good. I have it. ~:cheers:
You see - I will order them today, but get them in the time of couple of months - even I am not so mad to spent almost 400 £ all at once ( I have 20 % discount). Only the marked ones are really important and I need them quickly ~;)
Regards Cegorach ~D
Good selection although a fair few are out of my periods.
Today Acre, Japanese Fortified Monateries, Roman Military Clothing 3 and Samurai Commanders 2 are out. I'll order them from Amazon when they get them in stock soon.
Nice broad selection there. Of course many are outside my interest so I would never buy even half. But we can't all be similar. ~:cheers:
Oh yeah, I mentioned the books I bought recently. These are the ones I had already:
MAA:
#291 Republican Roman Army 200-104 BC (somewhat interesting, but it lacks Angus' superb drawings)
#150 The Age of Charlemagne (quite good in my mind, with Angus)
#105 The Mongols (very good and Angus shows off again)
Elite:
#3 The Vikings (YES!)
#23 The Samurai (YES! again)
#121 Ancient Siege Warfare (fueled my interest but falls short, good drawings by Adam Hook, take notice of him)
#122 World War II Infantry Tactics, Company and Battalion (really good, a must for anyone interested in WWII)
#124 World War II Infantry Anti-Tank Tactics (also really good, but somewhat more bland, again a must)
From Aviation Elites I have:
Jagdgeschwader 52 The Experten (WOW! That is all I can say, but you have to be interested in this as the drawings are of the planes)
Warrior:
Japanese Warrior Monks AD 949-1603 (fairly good, but the drawings are painfully cartoony with extreme facial expressions by Wayne Reynolds, keep away from him)
Then I have a mottled collection of more unusual Osprey books:
Essential Histories: Rome at War AD 293-696 (good if you know a little but want to know it all a little more)
Fighting Armour of WWII: Panther Variants 1942-1945 (good but nothing spectacular, except you get a big foldout of a Jagdpanther drawing)
Guardians of the Roman Empire (about the Praetorians, quite good in itself with good drawings by Richard Hook)
In all a lucky selection I would say. And I have two more illustrators that can match Angus (Hook seems a good name).
What's wrong with the Osprey delivery?!
I ordered my books last month, they got the money 15 days ago, and my books haven't arrived!!!!!!!!!
BTW, the Tannenburg is really good. I have it. ~:cheers:[/QUOTE]
It was almost a patriotic duty since the battle ( known as Grunwald) is probably the best known by all Poles - simply if don't know the battle you are not a 'true' Pole :book: ~;)
I must say that I order my book over Amazon.
It has three advantages. Fast delivery mostly, often cheaper than at Osprey and finally I can get it shipped from Britain which is closer and I won't have to fear taxes (ahhh how I love the EU).
See, I pre ordered Sassanian Elite Cav, weeks before it was out, and it still hasn't even shipped to me yet. At least it was cheaper...
With my monthly order done I now only need 1 more book to complete my entire Ancient/Medieval/Renaissance Osprey collection - Yarmouk, which I order if Amazon had it in stock. Every Campaign, MAA, Elite, Warrior, Fortress, New Vanguard, Essential Histories, everything. Of course I'll get every book they release from this epoch every month, but this is a milestone.
Now I'm moving on to the 17th century! ~:cheers: ~D
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Originally Posted by The Blind King of Bohemia
You have a very impressive/huge collection, my friend.
:jawdrop:
Found out about a new Fortress book illustrated by Graham Turner coming out March next year according to Amazon that sounds very interesting:
Castles and Tower House of the Scottish Clans 1450-1650
Should be good.
Just ordered Yarmuk. That's that done then.
I'm thinking about ordering either Viking Longship or Saxon fortifications. Are these 2 worth it ?
I just received my first Osprey book (upon reading it realised it was my second, I also have Anglo-Saxon Thegn 449-1066). IT'S BLOODY TINY! 48 BLOODY PAGES! :furious3: 4 of which have no information value at all and another 7 have only timelines for which I could have easily gone on the net to find out. AND TO THINK THAT I PAID ALMOST EIGHT BLOODY POUNDS FOR IT!! :furious3: It's bloody obscene! There are magazines which have more information, and are half the price of this book. Although useful for the BTW mod and for writing my story in the Mead Hall, I don't think I'll be rushing to buy those again in a hurry.
They are small, but usually very useful.
Generally campaign books are better to read, but honestly it is good to choose something you don't know well enough.
Besides some are really bad - now I know that buying something like British army 1660 - 17?? (don't remember well enough) isn't good at all.
Of course from my point of view, but fortunatelly I had opportunity to see the book for long enough not to waste my money to get it.
Regards Cegorach :book:
If you don't like the 48 pagers, keep clear of Men At Arms. THey are usually that short.
I finally got Sassanian Men at Arms. It was good, but not enough plates, and they focused on what I thought was the wrong thing. All save I think two had females in it (sure show one, or two but that was overkill), and only a few battle plates. The one thing I didn't like was that for the plate on the cover, they made a Savarn with a weapon they had no arcealogical evidence for, when they could have just shown him with a lance, or bow!
And I'm not sure if I like Angus' current style when compared with the Late Byzantines and the Russians.
Yes I have noticed a distinct change of style too....he's gone from the more refined to charcoal-style pencils, which makes them a look a little bit blurry. I have no real problems with it, but it would be true to say they don't look as clean and crisp, though if this is a move he's had to make in his old age (he's 75 now guys) to help him prolong his drawing them I'm all for it. Hell, he still pisses all over the other artists from an extremely big height.
I too am annoyed greatly by the decision to reduce Warrior and Elite plates from 10 and 12 respectively to 8, the same as MAA. I mean why are we still paying £2 more for Pete's sake?!? I know they still have the larger number of pages but that extra price was really all about the extra plates. Shame on Osprey.
Yes, I think we have to settle our mind to the fact that Angus might soon lay down his pen and enjoy his otium.
But BKB, I mentioned those two other artists that are good, and they are honestly very good. Richard and Adam Hook are good enough to take up the mantle as top artists if Angus retires.
Yes they are good though I personally think Wayne Reynolds is Osprey's best artist after Angus. He has the action, though lacks realism. Graham Turner is also very good. I also think Peter Dennis' artwork in his Fortress books are superb, he always throws in a couple of great little sieges amongst the static building plates.
I'm personally hoping he doesn't hang up his pen for a while yet though, he's still an amazing artist.
I was disapointed by the less plates. I mean, at least count the two spread plate as one!
And I still think he's good, but I might prefer a more relesitc style of new artist that is like Angus older stuff (Vikins and Russian). And I would like to know whether it was Angus or the author that had the genius idea to make up what an weapon would look like...