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Originally Posted by Warluster
Mabye we should sign a new Treaty? And you once supported me, and now you Betray us? And you are saying we should Honor our Treaty!?
Leopold I of Austria
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Originally Posted by Warluster
Mabye we should sign a new Treaty? And you once supported me, and now you Betray us? And you are saying we should Honor our Treaty!?
Leopold I of Austria
I betrayed Austria? How is that possible when I have not been allied to them. If I was still a Duchy, yes. But Bavaria is now a Kingdom, it choses and ways. If we have no alliance, and if we have no treaty with Austria, we can not betray them?
Yes, I fought The Turk those years before, but remember, I fought with Austria that day because Europe was in danger from The Turk, now Europe is danger from Austria, a diffrent situation.
I can see honor is wasted on Austria and its allies, and so is peace. Just from the words of Augustus can that be plainly seen.
Maxmillian II,
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Originally Posted by Warluster
Europe is in Danger of countries like France,Sweden,Denmark, and Most Importanly, Ottomans Empires. We are to liberate people from their rules.
Leopold I of Austria
:sweatdrop:
Your sig is in my personal space.
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Originally Posted by Ichigo
I'm Sorry:sweatdrop: I fix it later:yes:
I wonder, Leopold,w hy France is the danger, you are the danger, and you are the one who declared this war . Sweden, Denmark and Ottoman EMpires lawfully follow rightful and true codes of alliance, the only reasont hey wage war is because you rudely sent armies marching over neutral territroy. This is basiclly a act of war, no rights, no permisssion!
Those countries fight to save Europe, you fight to gain Europe.
OOC:France did declare war on Austria, siting that he has an alliance with the German states I believe.
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Originally Posted by Ichigo
He Already did Ichi, Check Page 18 :yes:
Has everyone sent their orders in?
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Originally Posted by Ichigo
Yup, Deadlines were yesterday Ichi :yes: (Friday)
Sorry for the delay boys, deadlines coming from work. Just sent in my orders
I am merely saying that the Peace of Westphalia was a long time ago, 'tis all. Things change: monarchies change; political boundries change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warluster
Too bad France was not concerned with the troubles Austria faced in 1683 against the infidel Turks; the people of Poland have not forgotten the sacrifice their people gave, under the great monarch Jan III Sobieski, to aid Leopold in his struggle against heathen domination! Perhaps if we would have seen more aid in that conflict, France would not now be facing the wrath of the Austrians? :whip:
I am sure France can answer for its self, but I must merely say: I am sure France was prepared to help. As you know the Defense of Vieena was properly assured, hence the reason the victory was secured.
There may be new leaders, new boundarys and the likes, but that does not make the old Treaty obsolete.
Maxmillian II of Bavaria,
This is blasphemy against every God given sourvereign! :no:Quote:
We are to liberate people from their rules.
We are sad to hear that treaties mean nothing to the ruler of Saxony and Poland. We, the King of France, do believe in the validity of guaranteed rights. We are willing to fight for them! And so will do ohter nations.
The agression of Austria against the rest of Germany forced us into this war. Is Austria really telling the free city of Frankfurth that She attacked the town to free it? Rediculous! We will fight Austria until the order in Germany is restored. We care little about all the other conflicts, Austria caused.
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Originally Posted by Franconicus
And you going to come to Vienna also, to get my Head Louis :laugh4: ?
You did not allow anyone to come to the resure of Vienna in my country in 1683. But atleast a few escaped your Tynnay rule, and assited us, Like Prince Eugune of Savoy (OCC: I read about him, wanted to be in French Army, Louis said No, so he left and joined Austrian Army and helped in Vienna. Still Austirna General Today).!
France will pay for interveiting in this war,when it should back off.
Leopold I of Austrian Empire
:coffeenews: Never said that I want your head. I am going to end the threat that you threw over Europe, that`s all. Not a big deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888
Give my regards to Eugene. He is not French, he is Savoyan, and he is not skilled enough for the French army, but he may provide services good enough for the Austrians.
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Originally Posted by Franconicus
OCC: Skilled enough indeed for us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blenheim
:beam: :beam:
Louis of Baden Baden was born in Paris, and He kicked Some French Wine Glasses :beam:
Joke, Laugh :yes:
OCC:DOH, when will you post the decsions? Not Impatient, just wishh to know the timetable you have set out, no rush :yes:
Battle of Blenheim? Never heard of it. Can you tell me where Blenheim is?Quote:
Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...anube_1704.png
On teh very south-East of the map - near the Bavarian border.
To the King of Denmark:
My dear brother,
obviously your information is not reliable. My scouts tell me that there is no place called Blenheim. There is a small village called Blindheim, though, close to Höchstädt.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=de&oe=UTF-8&q=&tab=gl
I understand that you in the north do not have access to correct maps. I will send you some French. However, I have no clue how the Emperor of the former HRE can speak of the Battle of Blenheim.
The next curiosity is, that the Battle is described as a fight between French and Bavarian troops against Austrians, English and Prussian troops. This sounds very absurd, even for a Sience Fiction. If we should meet Austrian armies there, I assume that there will be no English soldiers. Maybe Prussians and other German units, but those will be with us!
History already changed ~:cheers:
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Originally Posted by Franconicus
Louis,
Because I hear this is a Intertactive History:egypt: , but you will still fear the Wrath of prince Eugune and Louis of Baden Baden!
What about this, I think Poland and especially Bavaria already know. Shame on you Maximilian II :no:Quote:
Originally Posted by Franconicus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:J...endants_V1.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teresa_Kunegunda_Sobieska
Indeed, William. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tran
# Lynn, The Wars of Louis XIV: 1667–1714, p.271. The Allied figure is the strength in 1702: The Empire (90,000), the Dutch Republic (60,000 + 42,000 garrison troops), and England (40,000). It does not include minor German states or navies.
# ^ Lynn, The Wars of Louis XIV: 1667–1714, p.271.The French strength is a paper figure; actual combat strength was approximately 255,000. To this must be added forces from Spain and, initially, Bavarian and Savoyard contingents
From the Notes in the Spanish Sucession Wiki Page. Kinda late in the IH to add this in ofc, but just for the curious minds :beam:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_War_of_Sucession
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{BHC}KingWarman888 161
Franconicus 60
Don Corleone 52
Destroyer of Hope 51
Stig 47
King Jan III Sobieski 39
intersting post numbers for this Laugh.....:yes:
Look at me! :laugh4:
Anyhow.......
I think DOH died on us!! :wall: :sweatdrop:
Think DOH died on us :-(
Yeah,I'd agree.
Though we all know Bavaria would've won....
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Originally Posted by Warluster
Bavaria? :laugh4:
Yeah right; Poland's on the verge on conquering the world... :whip:Quote:
Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888
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:embarassed:
If DOH doesn't log in by the Middle/End of This upcomnig Week.... Then post your decsions up here for everyone to see (if you still have them!). Becaue if DOH doesn't come on then, then it's game over sadly. Plus it be fun to see what everyone said :yes:
You're too impatient. I'll wait you can quit if you like.
Yeah, stop being impatient...
And quit so Bavaria can take over Austria!:grin3:
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Originally Posted by Ichigo
You asked DOH when the CHapter 3 was going to be up.... 2 days after the decsions were due then, so who's the impatient one? :laugh4:
At least it seems Poland has the most modern military equipment... :grin:Quote:
Originally Posted by King Jan III Sobieski
(where are the "tank" and "nuke" smileys when I need them?)
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Originally Posted by Rodion Romanovich
:2thumbsup: That why they will Save Austria! :2thumbsup:
Hey Rodion, Start your 17th Centruy back up again, and let me play as HRE! :2thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Rodion Romanovich
Hey,
I will take over the Storyteller role untill DOH gets back. If he doesn't come back by next Weekend, it would be over 3 weeks.
You send me your decsions, and I tell the story. I got some time I can take over for DOH.
And No, I won't cheat. I still have my decsions save, and have no idea what you guys said. Just because if I read "oh, Kami is sending 100,000 men to Austria" for example, I won't change the Austrian Numbers or anything. I would just leave it go at that, and let my Storytelling mind paly out.
But yea, I will take over. I give DOH another week to come back, but if doesn't come back by next weekend, I can storytell for a few chapters.
What you guys Say??
I'd say absolutely not. Don't take this personally, but its almost impossible not to have some bias, especially since the 'game' system DOH uses appears to be so subjective. For example, with all the losses you're taking, I'm sure you're drafting new regiments to replace them. But how many before you hit your limit? How many before I (Sweden) with a much smaller population would?
If DOH can't support the thread anymore, I vote we call it quits. Then, if you want to start a 2nd Spanish Succession/Great Northern War Interactive History, get it scheduled with the moderator.
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
I get CBR to set up a offical vote then.
It's Hard to prove that I won't have any Bias. But Personally Don, I don't care if I win or lose, I'm just having fun in this IH. I have no need to cheat lol. if I look and see Austria is getting slam with 200,000 troops for example, would it make any difference if I took over DOH spot and only retruict 2,000 guys for myself? I mean come on. I would just StoryTell as best as I could, and as usual, if my Armies get hit with 200,000 for Example, They would proably fall back to Vienna (or close to it). Just look at Motep in WWI, he playing as Portgunal as time I checked, and he said he wasn't going to be bias (hard to prove of course, but still), and we still playing there.
If you guys just want to close it, no big deal, I can always so a 2nd Spanish IH (think I have the time), but just saying.
Bias doesn't mean that you'll throw the game to win, or that you'll side on your own behalf. If you purposely short change yourself every time, just to prove that you're objective, that's bias too. That's my point. It's very, very hard to remain truly neutral unless you don't have a horse in the race at all. I didn't mean to imply that you'd be cheating in your own behalf. I just don't think you realize what you'd be in for. I don't think it's fair for a moderator to try to run a faction, and vice versa.Quote:
Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Won't Shortchange myself, nor would I cheat. I mean, I understand you guys concerns, but, Can Someone not have Bias against Players if he is not playing? I think yes, mabye not in the extent of if he was playing, but yes. I mean come on. The Poll is left open for 8 days, that would take us into next Friday, as I wanted it to.
I think you should start your own interactive if you are dead set on this.
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Originally Posted by CountArach
I was just thinking that.
Plus, are you guys more intersted in contuinung this IH, or a 17th centruy IH (I would start it in 1616/1617,before 30 Years War)?
:embarassed: :embarassed: :embarassed:
:embarassed: I miss y'all! :embarassed:
:embarassed: :embarassed: :embarassed:
Don't be sad.....
I am starting the 1660 Mutilplayer IH soon! I will post the Prolouge and such up in afew days. it will be from 1660-1700. More info to come.
Sorry guys, I have to quit! Real life syndrome, you know?
Yeah, I know what you mean. With the driving pace we've been running this, I hardly have time for sleep anymore, let alone other activities. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Franconicus
All kidding aside, does anybody know if Destroyer of Hope is even plugged in on this anymore?
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
No Fran, Don't go!! You Could play as France in my IH!! :sweatdrop:
DOH isn't going to log in. Kage and Ichi told me to be patient... LOL. DOH doesn't even log in and they expect us to be patient? I mean, when DOH was doing Chapter 2, at least he logged in and posted .
Like I said, I will have my 1660 IH up in the next couple days, and if you guys are up for it, come sign up! I can tell you some of the Countries Now:
Austria/HRE
France
Sweden
Poland
Russia
Ottomans
Swiss (why the hell not)
Transviaylina
Spain
You just have to wait till the IH is posted for you to take your country ofc :beam: and yes, I will only do non-playable factions
KingWarman, please open your own thread. This is not your game.
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Originally Posted by CountArach
Of Course Count. Was just giving some info.
Will Do :yes:
DoH could be having a spout with RL. I don't expect him to log in and inform us it's his business.
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Originally Posted by Ichigo
He can log in and say...
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I am busy right now. I will be back in X number of weeks.
but I don't expect him to go into extreme detail.
Sorry all I haven't really had a chance to log on in the last month, infact this is my first time since october. F'or now I'm going have to put this game on hold until I get more time proably around mid december.
Once again sorry for my dissaperance and the delay :bow:
Good to hear that you are fine. I hope RL starts to treat you better.
Heh, Welcome back DOH! Got to hate RealLife eh? Take your time.:egypt:
sorry for my impatience,anything past 2 weeks kills me!:yes:
DoH!!!!!!!!!! You're alive! You're ALIVE!!! :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Destroyer of Hope
I hope all is well! Hurry back, but take your time!!! :yes: :egypt: :yes:
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Originally Posted by King Jan III Sobieski
2 1/2 weeks is Mid -Decemember!!!
'Tis is So exiciting!!!!! :yes: :beam:
If DOH does do this again one day me hopes, We should make a list of who will still be playing here and who is not, since some people left (Stig) or made have stop doing IH's due to lack of time.
I miss you guys! :embarassed:
:egypt: :clown: :egypt:
Sorry for the delay but now as finals are winding down and if I can get enough players again I'm ready to start this back up.
So anybody still interest or any if not everyone comes back any new people? If we don't have enough of the old people would everone perfer to start over or countinue from where we left off?
I'm still in
:jawdrop: Whoo! Back in.
EDIT: Still Ottomans. Also, I vote to continue where we left off. It was very interesting!
I'm still here, and this time Bavaria is ready to kill! (Or I'll take a larger more important country if avabile.)
I am back in Action as Austria!! :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:
Now, where were we...:skull:Quote:
Originally Posted by {BHC}AntiWarmanCake88
King Augustus II, King of Poland, Archduke of Lithuania and Lord of the Eastern Realms is prepared to defend the glorious Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth once more.
:smg: :wizard: :hmg:
:egypt:
P.S. I believe the Ottomans were prepared to get defeated.
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Originally Posted by kamikhaan
Hmmm.....
Austria was about to beat the Ottomans again? :egypt: :clown:
I'm still here - not quite sure where I left off though. I had a massive PM clearout a few months ago when everything became a little full.
I'm not a Chapter House frequenter though, so could you drop me a PM when the game begins again - I won't know otherwise.
Thanks
:bow:
Still England, still ready, still eager to defeat some enemy
Yay!!!! :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tran
What happened?
Don't Know. Hurry DOH Hurry!! :-)
Sorry all my router died and it took me a while to get a new one then the new one had a ton of problems :wall: Anyway my internet is back and I'll be doing a pm out to all players confirming if they want there country or not. If not then I'll open it up to anyone else who wants to step in.
Well let me just say in advanced; I can still play.
Me too.
Still in and ready to vanquish all who dare oppose me.:skull:
All prepare to bow down before their Polish overlords!
I'm still in. Just out of curiosity, do you still have the "order" PMs from the last played turn DoH? If so are we sticking with them, or do we have to write new ones? It's just that I've deleted the PM itself and don't really want to have to write it again.
Thanks ~:)
I Am Still in as Austria. I'll be away Untill Tuesday or so though, so don't mind me being quiet for the next 3 days, but yes, I am backa s Austria!
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Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
Ya I have still have all the orders from every turn.
Also Francicous won't be rejoining us so France is open for new players