Hey OK, are you gonna name part 16 of the history thread "The Empire Strikes Back"?
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Hey OK, are you gonna name part 16 of the history thread "The Empire Strikes Back"?
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I've updated the playlist in the first post of the Chancellor and Governors Reports thread. PM me if you spot any errors - particularly regarding influence.
People can start posting their build queues in that thread. Dukes/Kings/Prinzes/Kaisers should also give orders for "their" armies.
The current title of the latest History post is a placeholder until a Chancellor is selected. Seems appropriate considering what we just came through. I just put it in as an "easter egg".Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateerkev
I noticed that gibson posted his army orders in the Diet thread.
IF...and that's a big IF, I'm elected then I'm only going to look at the Chancellor thread for build queue's and army orders.
*sigh* Alright, I'll post in the Chancellor thread.
Well, now that both candidates are back, should I present the questions soo?
I'll trim away some of the unneeded ones, but the list may still be a bit long. I'm thinking pm them the questions today, and then post them in the Diet tomorrow after they've had time to think about them.
Yes, go for it. :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
Pm first, then post tomorrow, or just post them in the Diet now?
I'd post them in the Diet so everyone can see our responses, as we may even bounce things back off each other while answering.
That's fine. I was thinking give the candidates some time to look them over first, but why be nice like that? :beam: I have a bit of editting left, but I'll be done within the hour.
Off topic screenshots. I have been using that Howie's quick screen but it has been acting a little wonky. Not capturing the active screen or the campaign map it won't capture the cities or armies and black blocks in the saved image.
I have been taking the avatar shots and not all the shots are getting captured. I might take 5 screen shots to capture the traits of an avatar and when I go to the save shot 3 is missing and I have to go back into the game.
A little bit of a pain.
Just wondering if anyone is using something a little more consistent?
Just use the print screen key in game. It makes reliable screenshots and places them in the tgas folder.
Alright, I've whittled the list down to 12 questions. If two similiar questions were asked, I tended to choose the non-Econ21 wording (and still the largest chunk of questions are his :clown: ).
I cheated a bit by merging a few that were similiar but covered what I felt were two important aspects of the same issue.
All complaints will be ignored by Andreas, who is not fond of paperwork anway, and not keen to discuss it with anyone else. :clown:
That method has not been the best for me but I may play with it some more. Hey were onthe 20th page it will be time for a new OOC thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
And I'm going to bed...so see you all tomorrow.
Ok, with both candidates online, I think I'll post the questions now. Sorry if any of them seem "fluffy". :clown:
I'm just checking in, still watching football. It'll be awhile before I can concentrate enough to type up some good answers. :laugh4:
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The latest save has fog of war turned off. FYI if you're avoiding spoilers, you might not want to DL it, or at least be ready to turn fow on immediately. :)
:egypt: (Raiders made a game of it!)
They haven't recovered from being whipped by the Packers, have they? :clown:
Fixed a certain character's ancillary (will PM) in the save and turned fog of war back on.
New save:
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1340-1c.zip
Hey guys,
if the Diet ends on Wednesday when does the voting take place? After it closes?
Hi Zim,
That's correct. At the time indicated by Econ, the Diet will be closed and he will post up a Poll with the legislation that was seconded. This will also include a poll on the two candidates for Chancellor.
There is then about a one day voting period and after the votes are counted the results are codified into the current active legislation and away we go with the game and our new Post Cataclysm Chancellor.
Thanks,
I've been wondering when voting started. I wonder how close a race this will be? All sorts of people are declaring for Arnold, but since they're mostly in his House, that's to be expected. :clown:
I got to use FRAPS (freeware) and found its use real cool as it allows high-res pics (mine are 1280x1024 but it could be higher) whereas the ingame hotkey only allows pics to be 1024x768.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northnovas
Plus, with FRAPS, you can assign a particular folder to save the screens, quite cool when you're taking shots from multiple campaigns...
I also use a screenshot program for screen caps and I have the same problem on occasion, thought not as often as 3 shots out of 5. It seems to me that when it occurs the program is capturing only the underlying map, with the interface and all map overlays (cities, roads, armies, water, etc.) missing. I have found that clicking on something in the interface (i.e. open diplomacy, then close it) before taking the screenshots helps keep the number of screwed up shots low. This only started happening for me after the 1.3 patch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northnovas
econ21: Can I get an OOC rule confirmation on the King/Viceroy of Outremer? Does the "renounce loyalties to his House" bit force him to give up his House province? The answer impacts whether Milan has no current Count. Bavaria is in an interesting position because of the 'donation' of Nuremburg. I have not technically named a new capital for the Duchy yet. Since the capitals have to be run by the Duke, I do not want to name a new capital unless I have a 'free' County, since depriving one of my Electors of his County would not make him like me much. If, however, Matthias cannot be Count of Milan due to Outremer, that would give me a 'free' province that I could name the capital without upsetting the current balance.
For that part of the Charter, I kept the phrasing the same. So I would assume econ's previous ruling would still be in effect. Still confirmation would be nice.
After a PM to Econ about Chancellor thread errors, he fixed Matthias's influence and allowed him to "stack" the King and Count influence. Thus, it seems that the King gets to keep Milan.
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Thanks to Northnovas, the Library is now fully updated. As usual, let me know if you see any errors.
Things I know are missing. I will add them at some point today:
Coats of Arms for all avatars
Name of Ehrhart Ruppel’s wife
Mugshot for Dieter von Essen
Did I miss von Essen? I didn't recall him coming on the list but did see him Zagreb. I will sent it to you.
:O
People missed von Essen!?!?!
How could you?!?!
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VuifkenQuote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Weird name, I know.
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Btw,canwill you please spell my alias on my character sheet title correctly? :grin2:
Same here... Name is de Cervole...Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
No, he can keep it (and get the extra +1 influence). The "renounce loyalties" clause was to indicate that he was supposed to be non-partisan, not dispossessed.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Errors fixed. "de Cervole" needs to be fixed in the Chancellor's thread too. I cut and pasted from there, which is what caused the error.
yep, I knew I had seen it elsewhere but couldn't remember where...
Elite Ferret, Privateerkev, and Cecil XIX may want to alter their recent Tavern posts, as they now make no sense. Serves you right for making witty responses to a post that was obviously erroneous.
It's just so much funnier when you picture Lothar giving a long-winded polticial speech in the Tavern.
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Indeed. Heck, I'll take a mass hallucination too.
I just solved it. Jump on for an amusing solution chaps.
Drat, I was going to have Andreas joke about whether that was Absinthe Dieter spiked his coffee with. :clown:
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Originally Posted by Zim
Beaten to the punch Zim...you've gotta be quick around here sometimes :balloon2:
ugh, this is tough fighting with TinCow. he's so smart! haha
Hey, you don't reach a decent rank in secret Kaiser killing organizations without being pretty sharp. :yes:
Parallel arguments in the Diet and Tavern threads, truly what an age we live in. :laugh4:
Though I must say the one in the tavern is juicier.
Oh man Zim, if you're in that organization you had better never let Fritz find out. I cannot imagine him not going rebel to get at that information.
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This... is awesome.
*Ahem* Alleged rank in secret Kaiser killing organizations. I will remind you all that the only solid evidence of Lothar's involvement is in two stories that no one else can possibly have IC knowledge about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
Man, when was the last time we had a good Duke Fight?
Ah, if only Sigismund were alive. He'd be itching for a fight with Lothar, and doing so while coming to Peter's defense would just make things sweeter.
EDIT: Yes, another Duke to the fight! Quick, get in there AG! This has the makings of a Civil War! ...If having such a thing made any sense.
:beam: Well, this is the OOC thread so I believe evidence not available to my character is admissable.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Bah, if I was in such an organization Matthias would know, and my not being dead would mean he's in it as well. Since I'm sure Matthias could take Fritz, I have nothing to worry about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramses II CP
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
P.S. Tincow, Lothars magic box of secret letters isn't helping the whole "not in a secret organization" argument. :clown:
:laugh4: Lets see how many people Duke Lothar can verbally best at one time.
We need to band together and chase him out of the tavern. OOC, I don't mind what thread you guys use to argue, but IC, I just want to drink my beer in peace!
You might bet on Matthias in the field, but would you bet against Fritz's sheer devious malevolence? Truly, what act would you say is beyond him?
I think Fritz might exterminate Rome himself to get to his brother's killer. :help:
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OOC: (as the thread suggests :P)
What happened to him in-game? Has it been resolved what happened to him IC?
@econ21, Have you considered maybe making a new OOC thread when we reach 30 pages? 20 seems to disappear very fast.
Congratulations, the Tavern thread has made it into the history for the first time with the latest dust up. :2thumbsup:
I was tempted to link to it when everyone was chanting Matthias's name (:clown:) as if it was Rocky IV, but this seemed more worthy.
Oh man, if only Jan were still alive. I had some juicy IC information that he had been sitting on until the time was right. :yes:
A Jan/Lothar debate in the Tavern would be titanic. Jan still might not win since Lothar was pretty careful at avoiding anything that could link him to Siegfried's murder. But at the very least, Jan probably could make more of a dent than Peter or Athawolf could. :2thumbsup:
I knew I should have had Jan leave those letters in a will or something to be sent to another character. :shame:
(oh wait, I did... Oh well, it's up to those "in the know" to do something about it now...)
It is definitely a challenge to be playing a new avatar who doesn't "know" anything when the player knows quite a bit. :yes:
:laugh4: Woohoo!Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
I personally give extra credit to Godwinson for telling a Duke that he is disturbing the peace in a tavern in his own Duchy's capital.
Ramses II CP, I think we should have a dread-off between Fritz, Arnold, and Matthias. :clown:
Peter has very high dread as well. He has undergone a "face-turn" lately and tried to come off as a "nice" guy. But he has around 8 or so dread.
So all the Chivalrous avatars are either still kids or dead?
As far as I know Siegfried's death was a necessary function of the mechanics of the Cataclysm, which is to say it's an open question who killed him, he just had to die to make the story move the way the GMs wanted it to.
I wasn't there, but that's what I've read between the lines, so to speak. It's possible that a decision was made about who was actually responsible, but not let out to the general public, which is what makes Fritz so much fun to talk too. He's too loyal, to the Reich and to Lutheranism, to contemplate what must be obvious to us outside actors, which is that nothing significant happens in the game without a German behind it, OOC or IC.
Fritz not only has high loyalty, he has nervous of Outsiders and long held Lutheran antipathy to Byzantium, so IMHO it would be hard for him to reach the conclusion that someone within the Reich successfully pulled a 5th of November stunt. That doesn't mean you want to come confessing to me. I do not want spoilers to mess up Fritz's maybe confrontation (If the Danes don't get him with their descending Uber Stack he's too stupid to retreat from). :whip:
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Elberhard and Karl Zirn are both high chivalry, but Zirn just went over 60 I think so he's on his last legs.
Fritz loses 3 dread from his noble in rule line of traits, otherwise he'd have 8 as well I think. He's the only one of the bunch to sack a German city though. Twice.
Don't cross him.
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It was necessary to move the game forward, but there is someone responsible for it "in-game". And certain characters made assumptions right away as to who it was. Having played one of those characters, I will say there are coincidences that convinced a group of people to a certain someone's complicity but no actual proof that could be presented to the Diet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramses II CP
Elberhard and Karl Zirn are still around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
Lorenz sacked BudapestQuote:
Originally Posted by Ramses II CP
but only once... :D
I think if you asked Matthias, he wouldn't say he was Dreadful, he's just being Pragmatic in a extremely nasty situation.
If he ransoms or let's prisoners go, he'll just have to fight them again. Even ransom money would just be spent on replacing troops he lost fighting the same men again. So, logic dictates that the prisoners be killed.
Basically the Levant has devolved into an Eastern Front scenario where no quarter is asked or given. Ironically, according to that metaphor, Outremer is Russia, retreating into the Interior to seek the aid of General Mountain and General Bridge rather than General Winter.
Yet somehow Jan went his entire career with only releasing prisoners. :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
Of course that caused a bunch of little "Jan stacks" to be wandering around...
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So, a man on his deathbed and another one whose chivalry trait was replaced by 1 Authority. The Reich is indeed becoming a dreadful place. :clown:
OK, are we Russia in the Napoleonic wars or the Soviets in WW2? If the former we can at least claim to be the good guys. :clown:
I was thinking WWII, Uncle Joe. Keep in mind, it's a very loose metaphor.
Edit: Correct, PK, but things have changed just a tad in Outremer. Even Matthias, during the salad days, consistently ransomed. The only time he didn't, was at the battle outside Caesarea when letting the prisoners live would have strengthened the surviving remnants of the garrison. Since the Greeks had to be spoon fed into actually taking the damn place, I couldn't risk that.
Of course, If I knew then what I know now, I would have let the Greeks and Turks kill each other, killed whoever survived and then taken the Citadel for my own. Now that would have been Dreadful.
Elberhard has his chivalry traits. It's his loyalty that switches over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
And the Reich seems to be crawling out of it's dread-hole. (boy that sounds dirty)
Chivalry and dread ebb and flow in this game. When one is in ascendence, players start switching over to the other.
Without really meaning to, we end up striking a kind of balance.
In general though, it is far easier to get dread in this game than chivalry. Plus, executing prisoners offers real concrete benefits on the battle front. Dread helps when attacking because you can rout easier. And chivalry has less use in this game since we usually don't sit our chivalrous avatar in settlements in order to grow them faster, like we do in SP games.
Basically, you only become chivalrous if you truly want to portray a chivalrous character. If you don't care, or want to be a moderate, you have 1-3 dread. This is because some executing and battledread is almost inevitable unless you take real steps to prevent it. And then if you want to join the "dread club", it is relatively easy to get 8 dread.
Whatever you say, Uncle Matt. :clown:
:wall: Doh! I got them mixed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
I should warn OK that with Noble in Battle and a loyalty trait adding 2 more chivalry, Andreas is likely to take a chivalrous approach to warfare. Hence, soeday there will be little Andreas stacks.
As long as Andreas is not the head general of the army he's in, he won't get dread points for Matthias' actions, will he?
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Originally Posted by Privateerkev
If Matthias gives Andreas any, and I mean any trouble in that regard, OK would be good to remember a certain "army commander rights" speech he had his character give another character... :clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zim
FactionHeir would be able to give you a more complete answer, but Generals not commanding do not pick up dread or chiv over the actions of their superiors AFAIK.
As for Andreas releasing prisoners, well, I'm sure it will make for some good roleplaying.
Do you know if you can get any scar or courage traits if your not commanding?Quote:
Originally Posted by OverKnight
The only traits I know for sure that transfer to non-commander avatars in a stack is Crusader traits. Anyone in a Crusader stack will get the "points". When those points add up, they get the traits.
I've noticed that secondary Generals have picked up traits in battles they fought in but did not command. Usually the more epic battles. I've noticed stuff like dauntless come up, but I've never seen chiv or dread related traits added.
Again, I'm sure FactionHeir will be able to provide a detailed reply on the question.
I'm sure you can pick up both courage and scars. Fredericus von Hamburg got both in Leopold's battle with the Mongols, in which he was the only survivor of his bodyguard.
Now that was a battle. Leopold, the originial Dread Duke, versus two and half Mongol stacks. Bad Ass.
Speaking of past battles, would anyone be interested in a "My favorite battles" thread. The essential idea would be to post a link to your favorite battle, not necessarily your own, and provide sort of a director's commentary on it.
I feel it serve to illustrate some of the games earlier battles, ones that have been relegated to the back pages, and provide further insights into them.
Good god the Tavern has kicked off!!
I've just wandered in and can't help but try and escalate it a little. :laugh4:
Only commanding generals can get traits from battle. If you are commanding general of a reinforcement troop however, you will get nothing, which is why you normally want a general to engage the battle rather than a captain (SP term speaking)
That said, it would be nice if it were possible for a noncommanding general to still pick up the scar, brave and coward line of traits, or even the bloodthirsty or hemophobe ones. Sadly, this is not really possible.
Now, as for chivalrous generals, I know Ruppel has been keeping a low profile, but that's not a reason to ignore him completely! :yes:
I think we were discussing mostly the older generation of generals. Guys like Ruppel and Andreas are the future. On to a more chivalrous empire! :beam:
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Originally Posted by FactionHeir
What about Bresch! He has 4 chivalry points :yes:
Bresch doesn't count. :clown:
:chucks: that's what you think :chucks:
didn't your mumma ever teach you not to mess with ninjas?